NHL News and Rumor Roundup – June 27, 2009

Dany keeps up hopes for trade

Burke all talk and no action

NO COUNTER OFFER FROM CANUCKS GM GILLIS IN TALKS WITH SEDINS

Dany keeps up hopes for trade

By DON BRENNAN

Agent J.P. Barry is not ready to discuss the what-ifs surrounding the possibility the Senators won’t be able to trade Dany

Heatley.

In an interview with Sportsnet’s Ian Mendes yesterday, Barry said Heatley remains hopeful the Senators will get a deal done

before July 1.

GM Bryan Murray has stated that if he can’t move Heatley before then, “this (trade) probably isn’t going to happen.”

That is not something the Heatley camp wants to consider at the moment.

Read the full article from

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL/Ottawa/2009/06/27/9954901-sun.html

Burke all talk and no action

MIKE ZEISBERGER, SUN MEDIA

The first salvo has been fired in the new chapter of the Battle of Ontario.

Thanks to Brian Burke.

As the Maple Leafs were preparing to make the seventh overall pick in Friday’s 2009 entry draft at the Bell Centre, the

Toronto general manager was seen chatting with Bryan Murray, the personable GM of the hated Ottawa Senators.

Burke asked Murray if the player the Sens were looking to pluck two picks later was London Knights forward Nazem Kadri.

When Murray acknowledged that, yes, the Sens liked Kadri, Burke replied, without sarcasm: “Well, we’re taking him.”

Give Burke this much: He accomplished one thing last night- he added some spice to a Senators-Leafs rivalry that, let’s face

it, has lacked some teeth the past few seasons.

Thirst for skill

Make no mistake, Kadri is a good player. He scored 25 goals in each of his past two Ontario Hockey League seasons and 93

total assists.

And for a Leafs franchise desperately thirsting for an influx of skill, he will be welcomed on to the roster with open arms.

Yet, there will be many in Leafs Nation who will be disappointed this morning because Burke was not able to land a bigger

fish- namely, John Tavares, who just happened to be Kadri’s roommate on the road with the Knights during the final couple of

months of the 2008-09 OHL season.

Heck, he could not even move up to the fifth spot to fulfil his Plan B, which was Brandon forward Brayden Schenn, brother of

Leafs defenceman Luke Schenn.

Read the full article from

http://www.ottawasun.com/sports/hockey/2009/06/27/9951296-sun.html


NO COUNTER OFFER FROM CANUCKS GM GILLIS IN TALKS WITH SEDINS

DARREN DREGER

Vancouver Canucks general manager Mike Gillis met with Henrik and Daniel Sedin’s agent, JP Barry, late Friday night following round one of the NHL Entry Draft.

The Canucks did not table a counter proposal to the Sedin’s recent 12-year, $63 million dollar pitch, and sources say Gillis gave no indication a counter offer is coming.

The Sedins are scheduled to become unrestricted free agents on July 1.

Read the full article from

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283055


47 Responses to NHL News and Rumor Roundup – June 27, 2009

  1. reinjosh says:

    im happy with Kadri
    and so what if Kaberle isnt traded
    they were planning to trade him after July 1st anyways and now that Bouwmeesters rights are gone their is a small chance he could be traded between today and this Wednesday
    but he will likely be traded by July 10th so its all good (i hope)

  2. the_word says:

    Kadri fed off of Tavares? Rob Pearson come to mind for anyone else?

  3. muckies says:

    Ottawa really wanted Kadri and the chief scout hinted he may be ready to play on opening night if he has a good summer. He could be on the Leafs top line next year, he's going to be a really good player. Like Marc Savard. 

  4. muckies says:

    Maybe Murray wants to keep Heatley, i'd be happy if they keep milkbag, one of the top 5 pure scorers in the league and really fun to watch.  Sens fans would forgive him, we even cheered Yashin when he came back and he wasnt half the player milkbag is.

  5. bbruins37 says:

    burke is an absolute idiot. haha his face after the kings took schenn was priceless

  6. reinjosh says:

    i actually laughed so hard when it happened
    he has to much of an ego
    it annoys me as a leafs fan and that was fun seeing that

  7. bbruins37 says:

    woahhhh savard? savard was one of the greatest OHL players ever. his stats:

    career – 413 points in 238 games
    last 3 major junior seasons – 356 points in 177 games.
    averaged over 2 points per game twice; in his last season he averaged over 2 for both the regular season and the playoffs where he led the generals to a memorial cup appearance.

    kadri – 165 points in 186 games; his best season: 78 points in 56 games.

    yet savard goes 91st and kadri goes 7th…

    not saying kadri wont be a good player but comparing him to savard is a bit out there.

    if he can crack any lineup it's the leafs though

  8. bbruins37 says:

    he probably wouldn't give a "rat's ass" at you saying that lol

  9. reinjosh says:

    he only did this for half a season bud
    and he scored only 13 more goals than the season before
    people are going to underrate him for this
    in fact he was rated at 8 pretty much all through last year
    only falling to number 9 in January – when Tavares was acquired – and rising as high as number 7.
    so your point that he is being fed by Tavares is null – especially considering Tavares is goal scorer and not a playmaker
    In fact Kadri fed Tavares more than Tavares fed Kadri
    Kadri is going to be a great player bud

  10. reinjosh says:

    granted the OHL has only gotten harder and harder to play in since then and the talent level has risen
    the comparison is a little far out their though but its a decent one
    say like a poor mans Marc Savard
    and whats that leaf line supposed to mean
    yes we know you hate the leafs and we know you have an obviously terrible bias against the leafs and for the bruins
    you could have just said that he has a good chance that he could make the lineup because even though the leafs were top 10 in league scoring they still dont really have that top line center

  11. broc says:

    Who cares if Burke did nothing. Many times, doing nothing is the best move.

    People are stupid if they feel Burke "owed it" to "Leafs Nation" to make a trade. Maybe the price was too high? If Toronto fans are disappointed, that's their own fault.

  12. bbruins37 says:

    it means i only think that the top 3 will play in the nhl this year, but maybe also kadri because of the lack of quality players for the leafs. he has a legit shot at playing next year

  13. muckies says:

    they didnt even play of the same line so saying they fed off of each other is wrong.  Kadri will be good, he's good in close and can do a bit of everything. He also played mostly wing and not center, so look for him to start on the wing in Toronto and be a really good at getting the puck into the center of the ice and penetrate the zone.

    He's also got a really good personality and will be a franchise face for a long time, not shy and likes talking to the media and is really good at it.

  14. cam7777 says:

    yea, it seems burke thinks it is important to have that personality, as bozak is also quite the character.  i guess we are finally realizing that to play in hockey mad cities like toronto, you need to have a bit of an ego, and a big personality.  otherwise you just get buried….

  15. cam7777 says:

    they shouldn't play kadri next year just out of necessity.  he should go down and hone his skills for another year.  no sense wasting a year of his cheap entry-level contract on a dud season with the leafs.  wait till next year when we have hopefully an NHL ready top 5 pick and a couple free agents to accompany him.

  16. reinjosh says:

    L.A. trades Brian Boyle to the New York Rangers for a third round pick in 2010
    http://community.foxsports.com/blogs/Spector/

  17. reinjosh says:

    good point

  18. reinjosh says:

    yep
    exactly

  19. reinjosh says:

    you gotta love what the Ducks are doing
    they added Wizniewski, Whitney, Sbisia, Lupul, Petter Holland, Kyle Palmieri in the last little while
    they are remaking their defence into a younger squad that can grow and will be a force very soon
    they added two very nice forward and one nice defensive prospect
    and they added a forward who can add 50 points or so a season (maybe more if he can rekindle his magic in Anaheim)

  20. HABSSTAR says:

    I think the big thing is Burke does it to himself.  I swear the guy hates the idea of not seeing his name in a TSN broadcast.  So he just blurts things out.  Maybe he has a condition or something.   

    I think he just talks to much and in the end makes people expect a lot more than he can or will deliver.  Now maybe he's just screwing with the TO media, but that's not a game he's gonna win.  Eventually if he keeps honking his own horn but going nowhere afterwards then he's gonna get turfed. 

    There's absolutely nothing wrong with what the Leafs did at the draft, they got a decent prospect with their pick, which is all you can ask for. But because he ran his mouth for a couple of months before the draft you have a lot of people who are disapointed with a reasonable pick.  Not a good idea to be doing too many times in a place like TO.

  21. LEAFS_54 says:

    i beleive that burke picked kadri simply because kadri might just hate losing even more then burke hates losing. he will bring some accountability into the locker room. first i think he needs to bulk up. at least 15-20 pounds before he hits NHL ice. but who knows.

  22. the_word says:

    You're being willfully ignorant if you won't concede that playing with Tavares didn't take pressure off Kadri.

    I'm not calling Kadri a bad player nor do I hate him as a pick but given that Cowan was sacrificed for him I'm kinda disguisted with MLSE.

    Bottom line is that Cowan is a cornerstone and Kadri is a project.

  23. the_word says:

    Its sort of a balance, Burke makes the minitua a little more entertaining however he does have a history of making bold and usually pretty sound moves that gives credibility to his persona.

    Either way its better than JFJ who can't answer a single question (i.e. will you trade Mats Sundin? JFJ – 'Well Mats is a great talent, We respect Mats, We think he's a great captain…').

    He drafted the wrong player, another than that, Burke had himself a fine Friday.

  24. broc says:

    OTT:

    – Dany Heatley
    – 4th round pick 2010

    MIN:

    – 1st round pick 2010 (top 5 protected)
    – Josh Harding
    – James Sheppard
    – Derek Boogaard
    – some salary back to Ottawa (Antii Miettinen maybe?)

  25. muckies says:

    scouts actually say that Kadri's game was hurt when Tavares arrived because he went more freestyle and wasnt doing all the little things he was the year before to make himself so good, he was trying to keep up with JT.   In the playoffs he was the Knights best player and some say he was the best player in the OHL once he recovered fully from his jaw injury, Duchesne and JT included. 

    You got a good player, embrace it. PP specialist, can be a PK threat, really good stick, solid 5 on 5 and can play the game a ton of different ways – fast, gritty, shut down, smart, total freestyle.  He's a legit top 6 forward, great compliemntary top line player like a Hemsky, Simon Gagne or Savard.

  26. reinjosh says:

    bottom line is your an idiot
    he only had half a season with him (not even)
    he didnt play on the same line
    and his game actually dropped when tavares came (only a little) as well as his ranking
    he was ranked October through January (end of January when Tavares came) number 8 consistently
    if you really think he is that bad your an idiot
    his point total and goal total only rose by 13
    so yes the pressure may have been off a little more but the kid is still a beast offensively
    check your facts before you say something so stupid

  27. reinjosh says:

    thank you
    if a sens fan is saying this then its gotta be evident of something
    and this in no part takes away from Cowan
    the leafs just had to many d at the moment and needed forwards

  28. adowdell24 says:

    It's not as if burke was not trying to make moves at the draft. just no one was willing to make moves with him. but that was when schenn was drafted was priceless. and now that pronger and j.bo have both been moved the kaberle front is going to open up huge he is the next d-man to be on everyones list.

  29. the_word says:

    Look we're all really impressed that you looked up Kadri on wikipedia but learn to read, I didn't say Kadri is a bad prospect, I said he's not a cornerstone. I'm not so pathetic that I need to call others retarded or an idiot to make a point.

    Tavares takes the brunt of the oppents talent to give Kadri room to flourish.

    I didn't say he's bad, I said he was a disappointing pick at 7th, there's a difference.

    Do you know the feeling of being condescended to by someone beneath you?

  30. muckies says:

    Leafs nation is coming apart at the seems. Brother turns on Brother, ONLY the STANLEy CUP can bring them back together…..

  31. Kramer says:

    When the Sedins celebrate their birthday, do they buy each other a gift?

  32. INurHome says:

    And that ladies and Gentlemen is the_word

  33. INurHome says:

    It seems less and less likely that a trade will get done.
    Seeing what Pronger went for, I would not mind a Lupul and 3 first round draft picks, provided that the team he is going to will produce two top ten picks.

  34. reinjosh says:

    haha
    you claim that your not pathetic and that you dont need to insult people to prove your point yet you go on and do it to pick your own ego up (its pathetically funny)
    and that tavares made all this room for Kadri
    and that i should learn to read
    its really laughable
    i saw that you said he wasnt a cornerstone and neither is cowan
    in fact the only cornerstone players in the draft were Hedman, Tavares, and Duchene
    and you need to read properly
    Tavares didnt create room for Kadri, they werent on the same line
    yes he may have taken some of the better defense but then Kadri used that to his advantage, what a great player does, and he burned the other teams for him
    and he was also the best player in the OHL playoffs for his team maybe even the best in all the OHL, outshining Tavares
    He isnt disappointing at 7, hes great there and a better pick for number 7 than Cowan was. We now have a cornerstone dman and center to build off of.
    And when i say cornerstone, i doesnt mean franchise, their is a HUGE difference.
    and i didnt just read his stats on wikipedia, i have watched and seen that he is a a great center who doesnt need Tavares to create room for him to be a good center
    and i wouldnt know about that feeling of being condescended by someone beneath me. How does it feel.
    i dont really know why im even debating with you. you really have no idea what you are talking about. you claimed that the toskala, kaberle and the 7th for the 3rd, budaj and tucker trade was a great trade that shouldnt be passed up.
    poor ignorant the_word. so much to learn young grasshopper

  35. reinjosh says:

    thats not it either
    he could have made deals to move up
    but he didnt because they all involved Schenn, someone they didnt want to trade

  36. the_word says:

    Grasshopper? Good one wits.

    Again you're struggling with making simple distinctions, I don't call people idiots or retards because its simply obnoxious. Clearly I don't mind embarrassing others, I just do a better job of it than most. Whenever I find myself mired in these exchanges, I'm not willing to play the part of passive aggressive submissive pretending I'm above the expression superiority so that I may excuse myself from performing. We both have egos, I can assert mine in my own voice, I need not resort to cliches.

    Obviously franchise players and cornerstones are different, again its a misreading on your part to suggest I ever said or implied otherwise. I would compare L Schenn to Cowen, both cornerstones, neither superstars (up to speed yet?). Kadri is a project. much like Tlusty is a project. I'll elaborate for clarity, the Schenns, Kane, Cowen = cornerstone. MSP, OLE, Kadri = project. Tavares, Stamkos, Hedman = franchise.

    Yeah the wikipedia comment wasn't meant literally, sigh…

    You seem to be under the impression that you're particurally insightful. That simply isn't the case, I think you've become little over confident by whipping Dando, so when it comes to pwange stick to the kids table where you belong.

  37. mojo19 says:

    WHAT IS GOING ON?

    avid Leafs fan the_word is ripping into a highly drafted Leafs prospect and praises the Senators Cowen, meanwhile Mr.Senator, muckies defends the Leafs. If I didn't know any better i'd say you guys were cheering for eachothers teams.

    That being said, Kadri was VERY low on my list. I think he'll develop maybe into a top 6 forward. He'll be a decent player and make it to the NHL but will not be a star. I didn't want him.

    – I watched the draft with my cousin. He didn't want Kadri
    – I called my buddy (die hard leafs fan) he was so upset about the pick that he didn't watc the rest of the round and told me to call him if Kaberle was moved or if we acquired another pick.
    – I talked to my brother who was working at the time of the draft, and when I told him we took Kadri, he couldn't believe it. He kept waiting for me to say I was joking and that we got MPS or Cowan, but that never happened.
    – I hate the Kadri pick.

  38. reinjosh says:

    sigh
    this is obviously a discussion that wont be solved
    were just getting into formalities now
    you dont like the Kadri pick and are trying to prove Cowan's better
    i like the Kadri pick and am trying to justify it
    either way we wont know who the better pick was for a couple years
    Im not misreading you i understood everything you said and even agreed with you on some of it. I just think its a little early to start saying that this player is a player that can jump in right away and be a cornerstone player and this guy is going to be a project. that remains to be foreseen
    and im not under that impression at all
    Dando is just plain dumb and i honestly dont think anymore of myself for powning him
    even a three year old could
    and then you go and contradict yourself again
    for the second time in a row
    i wish i could say your as bad as dando and lafleur on here but you at least have a good grasp of hockey intellect.

  39. the_word says:

    Figured I earned a quote…

    ''I be tossin', enforcin', my style is awesome
    I'm causin more family feuds than Richard Dawson
    and the survey said, you're dead
    Fatal flying guillotine chops off your *****in head''

  40. Bure96 says:

    I was surprised they took Nazem Kadri that high. I didn't view him as a top 10 prospect either. If I were in charge my list would look like this.

    – Victor Hedman
    – John Tavares
    – Matt Duchene
    – Evander Kane
    – Oliver Ekman-Larsson
    – Brayden Schenn
    – Jared Cowen
    – Dmitry Kulikov
    – MPS
    – John Moore
    – Jordan Schroeder
    – Zach Kassian
    – Nazem Kadri

    I don't think many teams other then Ottawa and Toronto had him in their top 10. He's not strong enough. He doesn't play with an edge, and seems like more of a complimentary player … and you don't pick up your future 2nd line winger with a top 10 pick.

  41. adowdell24 says:

    yeah thats what i mean even though it didnt come across like that. he wasnt willing to move Schenn which i don't blame him on i wouldn't wanna move Schenn either to move up but thats what other GM's wanted. But the Kaberle front should be heating up now also you know what i mean. I like Kaberle but will should be able to get some good prospects in return for him. And im totally happy with drafting Kadri.

  42. Leafmonkey says:

    No Kadri was doing better before Tavares came over and he was better than Tavares in the playoffs to many people (myself included)

  43. Leafmonkey says:

    It probably wouldn't be a top five pick if Heatly was with the team+Backstrom is a great goalie.

  44. Leafmonkey says:

    Hope the birthday is not in T.O

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