NHL News – August 6, 2009

Offside Thursday — Leafs villain takes heat 16 years later


‘Balsillie’s bid will emerge the winner’
Offside Thursday — Leafs villain takes heat 16 years later


Referee Kerry Fraser admits to human error regarding a blown call on Wayne Gretzky — a missed penalty that, 16 years later, still rankles some Maple Leafs fans.

But, evidently, Doug Gilmour shares the blame for Gretzky not getting a five-minute major for high-sticking the Leafs star.

“Any official absolutely has nightmares when they have an effect on the game — and a negative effect,” Fraser said yesterday on Leafs Lunch on AM640, reflecting on the incident in Game 6 of the 1993 conference final between Toronto and the Los Angeles Kings.

“When it crosses over into what occurred that night, the human error, the element that we miss … I think about it often.”

Gretzky drew blood when he clipped Gilmour on the chin, but Fraser had an obstructed view and the linesmen missed it as well.

Fraser said he asked Gilmour for his side of the story, and the Leaf said he was hit on the follow-through of Gretzky’s shot.

Replays showed otherwise. The Kings centre should have been penalized for a high stick.

Gretzky went on to score the winning goal when he should have been serving a major, and the Kings wrapped up the series in Game 7.

Fraser faced the wrath of a handful of callers with long memories — one suffered from sleepless nights, and an e-mailer said it was “the game that broke my heart.” But the referee handled them with aplomb.

While agreeing with one gent that he blew the call, Fraser said: “I hope you got it all out — you should not carry this anger and resentment.”

After 16 years, yeah, time to give it a rest.




With the new title of president added to his portfolio, Canucks general manager Mike Gillis says he’s closer to locking up his franchise player to a multi-year contract.

Gillis spoke to Vancouver’s Team 1040 radio station about his new role after Chris Zimmerman resigned from the position and revealed that the Canucks are close to an extension agreement with Roberto Luongo – an deal that that should be completed by training camp.

“I think philosophically we’re very close and I think to get top players signed it usually does take a longer period of time,” Gillis told the station on Tuesday. “We’ve had a lot of stuff happen in the meantime. We were moving really well and then we had the draft and free-agency and some other distractions occurred. But we feel really confident that we’re all on the same page and it’s only a matter of everyone getting focussed on the final part of it to get it done. We intend to (get it done before the season). We hope to. I know Laurence (Gilman) has had some discussions with Roberto’s agent as early as yesterday. We’re getting there and we’re confident that we’ll get something done.”

Luongo, 30 is entering the final year of a four-year, $27 million contract. He is coming off a 2008-09 campaign where he posted a 33-13-7 record with nine shutouts and a 2.34 goals-against average.


‘Balsillie’s bid will emerge the winner’


Jim Balsillie is alive and well in his rampant quest to purchase the Phoenix Coyotes.

Sort of.

As usual, almost everything to do with the bankrupt Coyotes, the story that won’t go away, is about as clear as mud. But at least Balsillie is still in the game with his attempt to purchase the National Hockey League franchise for $214.5 million, which would include moving the team to Hamilton.

Yesterday, in a stunning determination, U.S. Bankruptcy Court Judge Redfield T. Baum, who has deftly avoided any kind of controversy in this case, ordered that Balsillie’s offer for the Coyotes be considered when the club is put up for auction on Sept. 10.

That becomes particularly interesting considering the NHL itself voted unanimously just last week to turn down Balsillie as an NHL owner.

When asked last night what would happen should Balsillie be granted the franchise by the court on Sept. 10 after the NHL has already vetoed him as an owner, NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly told Sun Media: “I don’t anticipate that happening.”

The truth is, the NHL didn’t anticipate Balsillie getting this far, or for that matter, the dealings on the Coyotes getting this messy.

In fact, the NHL may find itself in a less than enviable position no matter what occurs in the auction next month. The NHL’s preferred bid for the Coyotes is the one headed by Chicago sportsman Jerry Reinsdorf who is heading up a group, although we are told none of his own money is involved with the bid, which would see the team remain in Phoenix.

The Reinsdorf offer, like Balsillie’s offer, like a still unofficial third offer from the Ice Edge Holdings group, is conditional.


37 Responses to NHL News – August 6, 2009

  1. Kramer says:

    Organized crime chooses NHL teams, not the courts.  Bettman is mixed up in the rackets and is controlled by the mafia "Dons" at the top.  So are the judges and politicians.

    The common denominator is gambling. Having a team in the mafia heartland of Las Vegas is more appealing. Why do you think Bettman wants a team there?  He's told what to say by the mobsters who have controlling interests in the casinos.

    Betttman is only an errand boy sent by grocery clerks to collect a bill.

  2. nordiques100 says:

    you know what? how do you feel dominic moore? you should fire your agent.

    you had a career year in toronto, wore an A and became a leader, key player and crowd favorite. then you decided to get greedy and look at you now?

    an extension was there to be signed but you kept asking for more. too bad.

    you'd be lucky to earn a job now as a walk on.

  3. mojo19 says:

    He deserves what he gets. Snooty Harvard attitude might have something to do with it? I dont know.

  4. nordiques100 says:


    or its taht sense of entitlement that burke and wilson keep talking about and trying to eliminate out of the leaf culture. leaf nation adores the players sometimes like gods and then they start acting like it.

    with bozak and wallin, i think we have better talents at centre to replace him anyways.

  5. leafy says:

    I'll never forgive Kerry Fraser for Game 6 as long as I live.  Not only was he blind as a bat for missing the Gretzky high stick, but he also called a borderline penalty on Glenn Anderson in the last minute right after Clark made it 4-4. Should have been a Leafs-Habs final.  Cruel bastard.

  6. leafmeister says:

    I still like Moore, and I would offer him a contract if we werent already employing half of the bottom 6 forwards in the league.

  7. I-BE-LEAF says:

    If only he had paid as close attention to the ice as he did on his hair… bastard Fraser.

  8. muckies says:

    Nords, youz a dick. would you sign with Brian Burke the asshole GM who said all sorts of horrible stuff about your brother when the biggest meathead in the league who showed no remorse ended his hockey career?

    I wouldn't. Moore will get a contract and a good one, I think he's a man and would rather play for less $$ with a GM he respects then play for an asshole like Burke who attacked his brother verbally  IN THE PRESS (get used to this) when he was sitting in a hospital with a broken neck and a concoussion. I wouldn't play for Burke.

  9. HABSSTAR says:

    Was there not a Gilmoure  head butt earlier in that game?  Shouldn't have he gotten 5 and a game for it, hence he shouldn't even have been on the ice when he drew the non-call? 

    Seems to me I remember him delivering a head butt to a kings player while they were jawing at each other and no call was made on that either.  But after this much time I start to doubt cause no one ever talks about it. 

  10. HABSSTAR says:

    GOD I hope BlackBerry Jim wins that bid!!!!! 

    F*CK that little NY Troll Bettman's head will explode if the judge hands the franchise over to him! lol

  11. JoelJoel says:

    Habs fan, Leafs fan, Sens fan… doesn't matter, I think they all agree, Buttman must die!

  12. HABSSTAR says:

    I think it would just be funny for Shorty to be faced with the idea of someone the NHL BOG had turned down as an owner coming to own a team.  LOL!  What now Mr Bettman? 

  13. nordiques100 says:

    it was over 500K and an extra year.

    right now, moore would have taken the 2 yr 1.25 mil deal that was on the table in a heartbeat.

    but instead he wanted more.

    if he was sooooo offended by burke then he would have abandoned the team.

    instead its a mistake on his part and now, he's out there with no job, no tangible offers.  

    go on with your name calling all you want. you're quite childish.

    and dany heatley is the biggest meathead in the NHL.

    the guy for some reason had god on his side and god saved his life instead of dan snyder's and what does he do? he *****es and moans about the coach even though he was given this precious 2nd chance at life.

    so maybe you should go and look at your own team.

    and if you want to attack me go ahead. bring it on. you do not carry any respect on this site. or probably anywhere for that matter.

  14. zackman13 says:

    lol, no.

    its lmfao funney!

  15. mojo19 says:

    Ya muckies, if that were the case he would have been scooped up by now.

    Also, Moore is stupid, forget about Brian Burke, Ron Wilson adored Dominic Moore, gave him PP time, first unit PK, 2nd line centre minutes, put the 'A' on his jersey. Moore turned down a contract to play for that coach and he'll have a hard time finding another coach in the league who loves him like that, and another team where he'll get those same types of oppurtunities.

  16. mojo19 says:

    Flash forward to 2007. Around the 60 game mark of the season, Leafs vs. Islanders. Mats Sundin scores in the middle of the 2nd period, but as the puck is crossing the line Alexei Ponikarovsky is rocked into Dipietro and the goal is disallowed for goaltender interference.

    I had a discussion on here with several people who were furious about that Kerry Fraser call as well, as the Leafs ended up in a tie and losing in OT. The result? The Islanders beat the Leafs out of the playoffs by 1 point.

    Thanks a lot Kerry Fraser.

  17. muckies says:

    "Bring it On' – Do you have Eye of the Tiger playing in the back ground and you are shadow boxing awaiting a pissing match. 
    Don't pretend like you are somehow superior to anybody on this site, you aren't. You're just a hack like the rest of us and your knowledge of hockey matters in no better then most.

    And  you're low class calling out Heatley and Dan Snyder into a mess that a complete Jerk who this own teamamtes don't even like in Bertuzzi who cannot even find a job in the NHL if you want to talk about players looking for work. 

    I called out Burke for what he did in Vanoucer which was low class and kept him out of the league for close to 1 1/2 years so many owners were put of by it.  You're telling Moore to chase money over a family, so I called you out for what you did  -which was stupid. Why do you care that Dom Moore isn;t a Leaf anyways? Why don't you attack other Leafs, certainly Moore service to the jersey would have been good enough for you to at least respect him for what he did and the man he is.

    And you have no idea if Moore has offers or not, you have no knowledge of the sitatuion. He could be looking at many deals, or waiting for the SJS  to sort out there mess and sign a 5 year deal with them, you hva no idea so don;t say he'd take anything right now, because you just don;t know.

  18. nordiques100 says:

    you have ZERO idea of if moore hating burke is the reason he didnt sign in toronto.

    so before you go spouting off back it up. where is your evidence? you have none.

    i will admit, i was wrong on some facts, but here is something that should explain the negotiations.


    moore says here he wanted to stay a leaf. he wanted 2.5 mil per over 2 yrs. the leaf actually offered 3 at 1.5 per. so before you accuse me of not having proof, get some yourself.

    you are basing your argument on hearsay. you're assuming something where there is no evidence out there other than whatever you make up in your head. you yourself may be angry, but moore, probably ticked but not that much to take pennies to prove a point.

    if anything i give credit to moore for showing class saying in interviews he has no problems with him personally.

    evidence: http://www.torontosun.com/sports/hockey/2008/11/29/7575041-sun.html

    but he did ask for extra money and really, like most players, greed got the best of him and the good situation he was in. 

    it has nothign to do now with him getting offers or not. the fact is he still isnt signed and had a great deal on the table for 3 yrs to stay a leaf. he wont get that security now.  

    you do nothing here but attack people. hence the anger on my part. fine, i am man enough to apologize but only for getting some of the facts wrong and not providing evidence as i am now. 

    the fact does remain however, you have no evidence to back up your claims other than you think moore hates burke becuase of his brother. its a story but thats all.

  19. nordiques100 says:

    and i believe you started the donnybrooke throwing the first punch.

    what? so you cant take someone standing up to you so you have to either call them names or make hideously feeble attempts at humour? keep your dayjob.

    and i will continue to berate dany heatley until he mans up and says something. right now, he's making himself out to be this primadonna and after what happened to him, somethign that good people were not afforded the same luxury, that sickens me. he makes 8 mil a year to play a game when the fact was he was a hair from losing his life and he does nothing but complain about his situation? where's the gratefulness and thankfulness of being where he is now? 

    we dont know cause he isnt man enough to say ANYTHING.  

  20. nordiques100 says:

    and one more thing.

    brian burke doesnt have the greatest personality but he isnt all bad or the evil incarnate you make him out to be.

    he gives plenty to charity like the childrens hospice


    operation homefront



    childrens hospital of orange county


    he is no angel by any means, but no devil either. so enough with the personal attacks.

  21. HABSSTAR says:

    Fraser didn't just hate the leafs.  There's a few calls he had against the Habs that convinced me he was either in Bettman's pocket and fixing games to ensure "non-traditional" markets succeeded in the playoffs or he just didn't like the Habs.

    Giving Therrein a bench minor for asking him WTF is up with his call during the Habs-Canes playoff series.  Montreal was up 2games to none in that series.  That call changed everything, Canes scored on the power play and never lost another game in the series.  I HATE Fraser.

  22. muckies says:

    Dany Heatley attack all you want for behaving the way he has in this trade, bringing Dan Snyder and Heatley's accident into something that has nothing to do with it is low class.  I don;t care if you hate Dany Heatley, it does bother me you relate Snyder to Bertuzzi

  23. muckies says:

    For you to say He's in a good situation,  (arrogance of the Leaf fans, "he;s in Toronto better than anywhere else)_ when you are one of the teams more dedicated players, play hard and produce, and you get offered 1.5 million, less than the golaie from Sweden got who has never played a game, less than the 3 million Grabovski got, it probably makes you think – at least it makes me think – that Burke offered him something he knew he would never accept for political press reasons, and they both moved on with their lives apart in a classy way and left it at that.  He got offered less than what he was worth, is playing for a man he depsises and got what he felt was a  lowball offer, that isn;t being in a good sitatuion.

    well, players say lots of things all the time, to say that Dominic Moore and theMoore family respects Brian Burke I think would be you not really getting the large picture, I don;t think Dominic wanted the Torotno media getting into his brothers personal life or him having to answers questions everyday about his relationship playing for Burke, so you say thta, and don;t resign the contract he offered you, plain and simple.

  24. muckies says:

    yeah, well I do a ton for the environment and overseas causes, but you still think I'm an asshole, so I think that explains that.

  25. muckies says:



    And what's with you attacking Moore for going to Harvard, didn't Burke graduate from Harvard Law School?  I know some people on this site are morons, but you Nords saying somebody is somehow inferior because of where they went to school, I always thought you were more resonable than that. Guess not.

  26. mojo19 says:

    I was the one who brought up Harvard. But I think there is something to it. Not to play up stereotypes, of course not everyone who went to Harvard has that snobby, snooty attitude, but I definitely think some do. Stereotypes are made for a reason and some people play them up.

  27. mojo19 says:

    Gerber being replaced by Ward was also a factor, but ya Kerry Fraser is just plain bad.

    Interesting conspiracy theory about 'non-traditional' markets, because the two examples being used here are LA over Toronto and Carolina over Montreal. I think there might be something to that. What does Kramer think?

  28. blaze says:

    a 29 year old career waiver wire guy who put up 45 points on team where he could scoop up tons of ice time is not worth 2.5 hence why Burke let him walk.

  29. blaze says:

    To ignore the media is one thing, but to ignore supposed friends Spezza and Alfie? Heatley is classless.

  30. nordiques100 says:

    the situation i am talking about is playing top 6 forward minutes and getting lots of PP time.

    it has NOTHING to do with the city. (ignorance of non leaf fans)

    if he were worth what he wanted, someone would have scooped him up by now with ease. simply put, a former waiver wire pickup who had a good half season isnt going to be worth 2.5 mil.

    and again HOW DO YOU KNOW HE DESPISES BURKE?!?!?!?!

    you again are throwing hearsay in supporting your arguments making you look foolish.

  31. nordiques100 says:

    as you can see, i had NOTHING to do with whatever school he went to.

  32. nordiques100 says:

    again, you are making up assumptions to support your arguments and again you lack any substance.

    you are implying i think you are an asshole. i called you childish. i did not once call you an asshole. but likely you will not be man enough to apologize for your accusations.

    and you started the childish name calling by referring me to dick.

    you believe burke is this evil person. fine, but here i wanted to simply point out he isnt completely bad.

  33. nordiques100 says:

    well i simply believe that if you are lucky enough to get a 2nd chance at life, you embrace it, not whine about it.

    heatley committed a crime, got away with it and lived to see another day unlike his friend.

    but he has the gall to go and whine about his situation? thats classless.

  34. the_word says:

    Way to call out perhaps the only person on this site who is consistently respectful of others, even when they take jabs at him.


  35. muckies says:

    Well, yes I called him out on something I think he probably thinks he was wrong on now he has all the info. Why he was angry at Dominic More in the first place shows he didn't know anything about the Moore situation or how messy it was with Burke and Moore, so he deserved his call out.

    Anyways, I've noticed there are groups of people that stick together on this site and try to marginalize other people by  grouping up together to say peoples opinions are stupid. You and Nords I think stick together, and claim a high ground which you guys believe makes your comments smarter than others.
    Anyways, Nords and I had a god little spat, he enjoyed it and you come in for the late insult. All in all I'd call it a classic internet hockey spat – if you guys think I;m a jerky moron, thta's cool with me.
  36. muckies says:

    Burke isn;t evil, I'm just think in the Bertuzzi thing he really hurt the Canucks, The NHL and all the players in general the way he supported Bertuzzi post incident, by attacking Moore and his injuries,  the NHL for it's judgment and the fans and media for their overwhelming condemnaton of Bertuzzi.

    Say all you want for Burke sticking by his player, but at some point he should of shown some grace, said Bertuzzi screwed up huge, not try to excuse Bertuzzi, not try to excuse Bertuzzi by attacking  a player with a broken neck and a finished career, and not go after the media and fans. he should of said Bertuzzi hurt the NHL, and said he deserves whatever punishment he gets.
    I lived in Vancouver when Burke took over the Canucks, so I know what he can do for a brand and their bottom line. I don;t question his player evaluation, but I do think he is what he is, a media whore who has had some very classless moments during his GM career

  37. the_word says:

    Groupthink? A quick HTR history lesson, this site used to be me vs everyone, some I eventually won over, some I'm still at odds with and others left.

    If I treat some else with respect, it was earned and not given.

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