NHL Waging war vs Rangers? Also, How is The Moose? And Rucinsky Remains Unemploy

Just an update on the NHL vs. the Rangers, Holik, and Kasparaitis. Also, what is Messier and Rucinsky up to? Larry Brooks of the NYPost reports:http://www.nypost.com/sports/rangers/21057.htm

“GM Glen Sather, hardly known for exploiting loopholes to end-run the NHL, was circumspect yesterday when asked for his opinion of the league’s stance that the signing-bonus provisions in the deals are contrary to the spirit or language of the collective bargaining agreement.

“I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the contracts, but I’m not going to say anything more than that,” he said. “I’ll just wait for the results of whatever hearing is held and then act accordingly.”

The NHL apparently will argue the payment schedule is impermissible because it guarantees the players income during the 2004-05 lockout the league is already planning. The NHL has, however, according to one well-placed source, “previously registered dozens of contracts with the exact same bonus structure as in the [Holik and Kasparaitis] contracts.”

“We structured the contract with the signing bonuses for tax purposes, not because of the lockout,” Mike Gillis, Holik’s representative, told The Post. “I don’t have any idea what the league’s objection could be.”

Messier’s situation:

Sather yesterday expressed optimism over his contract negotiations with Mark Messier. “We’re having a good dialogue; I think we’re going to get something worked out eventually,” he said while refusing to address what may be a $2.5M gulf in the talks.

Rucinsky’s situation:?

The GM was not so sanguine regarding the possible return of Martin Rucinsky, who apparently is looking for at least $3M, with the team offering approximately half that much.

“Unless there’s a change in his thinking, he’s out of the picture,” Sather said.


Now, this is not a big deal and I guess the NHL just wanted to take action now, but why now? Why not before? Why not with other players? They only noticed it now?

I just think that nothing will happen to the Rangers, Holik, and Kasparaitis. The contracts will be restructed. But if so, then so should the other contracts that have the same structure. So, it’s no big deal. The media made a big deal out of it, but nothing bad will happen.

I doubt Messier wants a two year contract worth $5 million dollars. I wouldn’t mind a one year contract worth $3.5 million dollars, but not for two years. Rangers have youth coming in and Sather won’t let Messier steal a spot for two more years. The Moose has always been tough during contract talks, and I still say the Rangers do need Mark Messier in that locker room, especially with a Bure, Lindros, Holik, and Kasparaitis on the team. If Messier doesn’t come back then Leetch will wear the C, and he is much better with an A. No matter what you say about him, the fact is that he is one of the greatest players that ever played the game of hockey.

I agree 100% here with Sather. I didn’t understand the media when it mentioned that the Rangers were serious in bringing Rucinsky in. Sure he played really well on that Lindros line and showed some great stuff when skating with Nedved and Dvorak. But, the season is not 20 games, it’s 82 games. Can he do well in 82 games, if played? Also, Rucinsky isn’t really going anywhere, and I doubt any team would be willing to pay him $3 million a season….well, let’s not forget the Bruins. But, I think Rucinsky would be worth it for a price around $1.5 million dollars.

As of now, GM Sather is in no rush. No need to rush Messier, and definitely no need to rush Nedved. I believe in the Nedved to Capitals rumor. I think that the Capitals would love to have Nedved on a line with Lang and Jagr, but because of that…Nedved’s trade value is worth more than trading him to another team (except the Canucks).

17 Responses to NHL Waging war vs Rangers? Also, How is The Moose? And Rucinsky Remains Unemploy

  1. big_booty says:

    Great. More crap spewed forth from the worst hockey “journalist” in world history. I can’t tell you how pleased I am to see this.

    Nedved to the Caps? Please. Does anyone honestly believe that Washington wants another Czech headcase?

  2. mikster says:

    Gee, yet you followed Larry Brooks when he talked about Richter and Herb Brooks or Sather coaching the Rangers himself.

    There’s nothing to be pleased about in his article. It’s basically an update that could simply be posted on tsn.ca or ESPN, but just because it’s Larry Brooks, hey…it sucks? I hate the guy, i can’t stand him…but when he writes the things that we don’t know about, it’s information…so, nothing much to complain or whine about.

    Nedved to Caps rumor was not from the NYPost, it’s from another source. Though i am upset that it is an unnamed source, and i am not relying on it, i do agree with it.

    It’s actually one of the best moves McPhee can make right now. It would be pretty dumb to not deal for Nedved and play him with Lang and Jagr. He could score 80 points on that line. So why not? It would be a dumb move by a GM to not try to do that move.

    You sounded like Clarke there “another Czech headcase”

  3. MyCaptain11 says:

    i personally just think bettman and the league weren’t prepared for the rangers to sign these 2 guys, and i do believe bettman advised teams to limit spending this summer. so when the rangers were simply doing what they believe as “improving” themselves through free agency, the lil’ commish was ticked off. this is his way of dishing some payback to sather and cablevision. i hope he and the league fail on this non-issue.

    as i said before, messier just needs to have his ego pushed up again. unlike in the summer of 1997 when he looked good and the rangers previous management took a p.r. nightmare in this situation, the roles are completely reversed. but mark will come back at the reduced price he knows he will get. right now he is having the attention he wants dawned on him even though it shouldn’t be.

    rucinsky is kidding himself if he seriously believes he will make $3m salary anywhere.

    and by the way…larry brooks is senseless and about 95% wrong on the rumors he and his “well-placed sources” cook up, but when it comes to actually reporting articles based on publicly known facts and getting quotes such as this column, he is as good as any. if only he would just stick to facts instead of his lame guessing and rumors.

  4. Habfan1234 says:

    I am surprised that the NHL is actually going through this. I think Turgeon signed a similar sort of deal. If there was a strike in the 2004-2005 Turgeon would still get 2-2.5 mil of his current salary. I know that many other players signed contracts similar the Holik’s and Kasperitis’. The question I ask is why are they only going after one team. I am sure that Guerin and Joseph signed a similar deal.

  5. mikster says:

    It only shows unfairness and that Bettman is a _ _ _ kless s.o.b. If there are many contracts that have this same structure, then there is no reason to reject these contracts. What is Bettman’s payback? I mean, if it wasn’t for the retarded managment in Florida that signed Bure paying him $11 million dollars in his last season of his contract, then the Rangers payroll wouldn’t be as high. I mean, you take Bure and Leetch off the Rangers, their payroll is down to $50 million.

    Messier has always been tough during contract talks. He will get a fair deal and it’s not like two seasons ago where the Rangers needed a center. This time the Rangers really don’t need Messier as much and Sather can play a tough game with Messier’s contract talks. But, i think it would be best to have Messier in the locker room.

    Rucinsky is nuts to ask $3 million a season, but i’d take him for $1.5. He has no where else to go. So, if he wants to play, he knows who to call.

    I hate Larry Brooks because i said it many times before as well, he is usually 95% wrong. But, this was an informative article with no real rumors or ideas. Only an idiot would think the opposite and disagree with it.

  6. mikster says:

    Because of the Rangers. They have a high payroll, they are not breaking any rules, but hey…not their fault if Bure gets paid that much. If you can afford Bure though, why not get him? The Rangers payroll should and probably will be decreased by 2004 anyway.

  7. YingYan says:


    The league has very good reasons to show fans they won’t take that kind of overrated salaries THAT easy. Even if nothing changes in their contracts the word was already passed between everyone INCLUDING $ather but like a minority of pawns under a rich owner he DOESN’T GIVE A F*** ABOUT FANS, NHL MARKETING AND THE OTHER TEAMS.






  8. mikster says:

    I don’t get it. Sather comes in, and everyone attacks him saying he doesn’t address the team’s needs. Now that he does, by signing Holik and Kaspar, he gets attacked for trying to buy a team.

    Rangers needed Holik. If it is not against the rules to use the money you have, then why not? Especially when the Leafs and Devils battle to sign him. Kasparaitis was needed, and they got him.

    So far Sather gave the Rangers a number one center via trade: Lindros. A pure scorer who can be the only NHL player who can still net 60 goals, and acquired him via trade: Bure. He got Malakhov, a good acquisition. Ulanov, huge disappointment. Karpa, can still show something. He brought in McCarthy. He got Rem Murray and Tom Poti. He kept Richter, who is one of the best goalies at $4 million dollars. He got Lyashenko, has a brighter future than Malhotra so far. He changed the whole Hartford Wolfpack team around with quality prospects.

    Give Sather a God damn break. He is trying to make this damn team win and giving it a bright future.

    Sather is forced to win now, and Cablevision WANTS the team to get into the playoffs so they can jack up the playoff ticket prices. If the Rangers make the playoffs, pfff….MSG will be selling wild.

    Sather has to spend the money now, he has to win now, he has to address his team’s needs now. This is the only way he can do it, by signing UFA’s and making trades. When his prospects are up and ready, then you’ll see them play.

    The payroll is high right now, of course…it has to be. With Bure making $11 million from the Panthers, then Leetch $8.5 from Neil Smith. Bam, get those two players off the roster and the payroll is down to about $50 million dollars. Would you complain about that payroll. I hardly think so….

  9. saiklo says:

    It is quite funny that right when the Rangers finally make the correct personel moves, everyone comes down on them, including the league itself.

    Obviously the Rangers overpaid players to join the team, but that is the system, the NHL made its own bed during the last CBA when they agreed to UFA status at age 31, and now they are trying to fix their gaffe.

    Until the system changes, no one should bash a team for playing within the rules, even the Rangers.

  10. YingYan says:

    And hes stuck with some big ego individual stars.

    RUSINSKY SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. MyCaptain11 says:

    bettman’s payback would be that the rangers obviously wanted these contracts to fit a certain way into their future budgets, and while it would be nothing more than a inconvenience for the rangers to restructure the deals to fit in the near future, bettman will be viewed by some as going after the “rich, greedy” big-market teams (note, this is not my viewpoint of big market teams). this is small revenge needless to say, but the rangers no doubt get the hidden message behind all of this.

    i agree with you on every other point. and what you said about brooks is what i’m also saying: when brooks sticks to informative articles the beauty of his writing is shown in it’s best form.

  12. MyCaptain11 says:

    sather is rebuilding the only way you can in new york and not get publicly ripped for doing so. clean up all the garbage(players) that neil smith left behind through trades, even if it means eating contracts. keep the team competitive, if not good, on the ice while shaping it in his image of how it should play and win. and finally set up for a big offseason to really make the team go forward, such as this year by getting a more qualified coaching mind and addressing the team needs.

    there is a reason besides money that sather signed a 7-year contract. he knew what a mess smith left behind, now he in his mind he has finally got the type of team he would like to have. and in the process he has dumped all of smith’s crap elsewhere except for the core of the team (leetch, richter and to a degree, messier).

  13. mikster says:

    Rucinsky is a decent player when he wants to be. As long as he does the job on that Lindros line for 80 games or so, i am fine.

  14. Crazy-Eddie says:

    I think Messier should say screw the rangers, A team that doesnt need him and will hardly play him. What he should do is go back to where he started his career and play for the Oilers. He would still only be third line center but with all the young Oilers the expirence that Messier would bring would be more appriciated. the fans of Edmonton would love to him back, but if he wants 2 years and 5 million than SCREW THAT !

  15. mikster says:

    Doubt that will happen, and i doubt he is asking for 2 years, but he really does want to beat that Howe record….and i’d be doing the same.

  16. Krockasian says:

    With the CBA comming up the league has to start somewhere and the first team to get picked on will always complain “why me”. And the fixing always starts with the biggest abuse of the systems i.e. the Rangers. Its better late than never as long as they stick with there hard ass tactics

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