NHLPA Rejects Yet Another Offer From NHL


Breaking news (or not so breaking news for fed-up and tired hockey fans) the NHLPA has quickly rejected yet another offer from the NHL today as the two sides met in secret.

This rejection by the NHLPA comes as the LA Times is reporting Gary Bettman will set a drop dead date for the season and a CBA deal of this coming Monday or Tuesday. People who study labor conflicts suggest a drop dead date is long overdue for the NHLPA – giving them reason to either do a deal or start talking about next year.

For me the curious part of today’s action is the idea that the NHLPA is making the NHL’s case as to why there should be an impasse. Historical odds according to another TSN.ca story are at 50% with the NHL getting a favorable labor decision. Major League Baseball wasn’t as lucky. The NHLPA’s actions help Gary Bettman make his case for why the union isn’t negotiating in good faith and the league is – even if it is all window dressing, that might be all that matters.

I say it again – the players are truly fighting a losing battle. Their deal will not get much better than it does right now. If they feel they can do better in Europe and have no alliance to the NHL then NHL owners will kiss them good bye. Players like Brett Hull and Daniel Alfredson have recently said the NHL should just cancel the season. Do they know what they are suggesting? Are they that ignorant (anyone who has heard Bill Guerin speak on the topic would say YES)? Possibly so. The league will suffer a MAJOR hit by canceling the season. If they have lost 20% of their fans now, they will lose 40% in the event they can drop the puck next year. What the players don’t seem to get through their Jofas is – the deal doesn’t get any better than this. Their fearless union leader it guaranteeing that the ONLY market they can earn the big bucks in is about to be smaller by upwards of 40 to 50% thus guaranteeing them smaller contracts in the future. He is also going to end up voiding all of the current contracts.

The league doesn’t need all of the NHLPA players. There are plenty of kids that are willing to play RIGHT NOW and they are good. For every aging Brett Hull I can give you a Ladislav Nagy who wants his job and money. For every Daniel Alfredson there is a Jason Spezza who wants to make his $800,000 per year and then some in the NHL. The GLARING mistake the NHLPA is making is to think their players are the product. Leafs fans root for the leafs with or without Belfor, Sundin and Gary Roberts. Flyers fans bleed orange and black. Detroit fans don’t organize rallies to bring Federov back to the Motor City. They root for their teams. The jersiesy on their backs NOT the greed players.

Please note all you nay sayers – this is NOT NOT NOT OVER. A drop dead date is a very helpful thing to get down to the last part of this foolish negotiation. Do not be surprised to see the sides stay in TO to work on a deal until the very end. I will predict that the NHL leaks the exact dates of the proposed schedule that they have been working on to show the fans and the players JUST what they are missing out on. The players have EVERYTHING to lose if they can’t ink a deal. The NHL has the support of the fans and if the union doesn’t get some level of a deal done by next week, they will be done as a labor group. Bettman will break them although I am not one who believes that was his goal all along. I believe he needed his cap and was willing to compromise on everything else – and has. It is Bob Goodenow who wont compromise on a cap despite the fact that the last time Bettman gave into the NHLPA his teams lost a reported $250,000,000 over 10 years. Why should he cave now when the NFL is the model to copy?

Hold out hope!


PS: no word from the blogger yet on this. Will be interesting to see what he has to say about this stage of the deal.

125 Responses to NHLPA Rejects Yet Another Offer From NHL

  1. defenestrate says:

    Moog? He did great things for Emerson, Lake, and Palmer.

  2. 19Yzerman says:

    X-1 Yes off a farewell to the kings

    Big rush fan here

  3. cgolding says:

    the depressing part is that if they don’t get it done by sunday or whatever — i don’t believe for a second they are actually not going to talk sometime before the season gets killed — we won’t be seeing hockey again until next january… since obviously we can’t negotiate w/out a deadline that means something. i’m still annoyed bettman didn’t set the deadline for december/january… what a moron.

    sidenote: good article on how many players may be losing their jobs due to this lockout on tsn.ca, very interesting.

  4. hockeyhead says:

    martina (25) is the swiss miss…big smile and high 4head (haha).

    seles has the grunts but now so does everyone…maria sharapova has a huge moaning grunt.

    i should go to womenstennistraderumors.com….love it all.

  5. cgolding says:

    as far as that proposal… it should have been something the NHLPA could negotiate off of. if they ACTUALLY believe that their proposal could work to get the system under control they should/would have negotiated on the triggers and gotten them to be a bit more realistic. however, their response to the offer pretty much proved what has been hashed out by myself, and the torontonian replier above, extensively. the proposal was a worthless piece of paper for accomplishing any real systematic control… it was intended to purchase the old system from the owners, and we would have been in the same spot within 3 years.

    my understanding is that the canadian labor board would have zero control over the situation, but i could be wrong on this. i thought that the nhl existed in America and as such would go before the US labor board… which under Bush is going to be nothing but supportive of the owners — i’m pro owner, but despise bush… going to create an interesting situation for myself if Bush’s administration is the supplier of the return of hockey. there are certainly some significant issues with the whole replacement player thing… my understanding is that visas aren’t granted to replacement players?

    who knows… if they actually cancel the season, my gut tells me we will find all this out over the summer. Goodenow is an absolute moron if he doesn’t come back with a proposal at this point. he was a moron in the first place for not accepting the salary cap and then taking the owners to the cleaner on every other issue… as the NBAPA did. the owners are idiotic for not at least negotiating a luxury tax, but i give them the benefit of the doubt due to my belief that the long term effect of their system will be much better for the sport and more importantly us fans.

  6. 19Yzerman says:

    My tendency to go for those trampy women has finaly caught up to me. HEELLPP!!!!!!!!

    I have fallen into the trapeziod and its like the BlackHole of Cygnus X-1 in here. I dared To cross her course and was swallowed by the fearsome force.

    The Vicodon Vanilla Popsicle was great until I got pulled in and its like a sleeping bag with walls of OxiCottonCandy in here.

  7. hockeyhead says:

    yaa, l go for the athletic women….and their $.

    hey, if women can golddig……i enjoy the tramps but have a hard time respecting them….catch 22

  8. nocuphere says:

    Boys I don’t know how my comment got turned into this, but f uck man you guys gave me a good laugh coming into work this a.m Too many danergous minds around here. BTW, trampy women need the most love!!!!

  9. nocuphere says:

    BTW Header, i’d like to congratulate myself on yet another superbowl win. Can’t believe you’re a bruins fan and hate the pats. haha.

  10. 19Yzerman says:


    You cannot imagine how many Brady jerseys are here in ann arbor ,Mi.

    During his senior year Brady was used as a QB tandem with Drew Henson. Each QB would play 1/2 of a game. At that time there was a lot of pressure to put the young Henson in to get him the experience needed for him to excele. The chance at a NAT CHAMP was gone with a 4-2 record six games in to the season. The NYY $$$$$$ pulled Henson away after all the hype and Henson negotiating with U of M not to recruit other QB’s left U of M high and dry. Brady found himself shadowed by another DREW!!!. Bledsoe and when the chance came to rise above all expectations Brady did just that. There are some who think that U of M didn’t embrace Brady enough during his tenure here at U of M to warrant jumping on his wagon now. When U of M coach Loyd Carr evaluates a QB he is looking for 2 things. Is he smart?? and Is he tough?? Well Brady has made U of M proud with his NFL career none the less.


    Dangerous Minds?

    We need something to go back and forth with because the NHL has had us sounding off in here like a broken record.

  11. hockeyhead says:

    what up cup….yea, we’ve been having good times the last week….in prep of the big day on monday or tues.

    when i was a kid in the 70’s and picking my favorite teams….the steelers were it and the cowboys who i hate…the pats were not even an option. i am a real fan for life…unlike many fans around new england who have scars on their knees from falling off the band wagon so much.

  12. 19Yzerman says:

    New England fans have had quite the year. with Sox and Pats. Soon we will hear how a sports illistrated poll has voted them the greatest sports city in the USA.

    Lara Flynn Boyle is my new choice of opposing fealine for the Lingrie Cup. I heard she was acting up on an airline flight by stripping and attempted to get into one of those foldout beds with a man she didn’t know.

    How the hell does she attempt and not succeed at that??

    What do you guys think???


  13. hockeyhead says:

    the guy was probably on queer eye…

    yea, three parades in two years and i could care less. WHERE ARE THE BRUINS?

  14. 19Yzerman says:

    Picture this hockeyhead Maria Sharapova walks into the room where you are typing text to your HTR buddies. You look up and notice she is wearing a Steelers cap and a Bruins jersey with nothing else underneeth but, a black and gold thong with little Angles world series champions sox. Her black and gold Gucci hand purse is bulgeing with cash. She is signaling you to go to her with her right index finger while posing with her left hand pulling the left side of that jersey up exposing her left leg all the way up to her hip. Your drooling and its not beause the bruins rule. when suddenly you wake up to the sound of a heavy note book slamming on your desk and the voice of one of your students saying “here Mr HockeyHead here is my home work from yesterday”

  15. nocuphere says:

    I’m accepting the fact now that we better start talking baseball or march madness or something or one of posts is bound to get tagged with plagiarism!!!! It’s like ***** ing Groundhog day everyday this lockout goes on.

    BTW that qb system was f ucked up. Henson and Brady, i’m surprised they didn’t do well.

  16. nocuphere says:

    A kid in the 70’s header!!!!! Dude you’re older than dirt pops!! haha, jk. I don’t know how I came to be a pats fan, I think watching them through their mediocracy in the 80’s had me rooting for the underdog. Well I got my NFL championship. I’m thinking I shouldn’t hold my breath waiting for a leaf cup. hahaha.

  17. nocuphere says:

    Where are the bruins? Bay street with the leafs. haha. Long time to wait for a cup. It’s funny how I get more excited over a leaf playoff series win than a pats bowl. Must be the maple syrup in me.

  18. hockeyhead says:

    don’t know about that fantasy yzee….she is older than a lot of students i know…..we can wait a year to dream about maria…

    anyone listen to howard stern this am….paully shore talkin how he got an 18 year old playmate (of this month if anyone wants to check her out)

    good for the old man….and cup….i am younger than d-strate and 19y….so dont haze me too much.

  19. nocuphere says:

    Geez thankx fella’s apparently i’m a youngin at the tender age of 30, do I qualify as thong inspector on the WTA tour or what? Anyone but Lindsay Davenport’s please. brrrrrrrrrr. scary!!!!!

  20. 19Yzerman says:

    You are now the HTR self proclaimed thong inspector on the WTA tour.

    As such you will be required to report all findings in the WTA thong wearing community. If you wish you may be as creative as you want since no one on here has objected to our postings. Kind of like no one objecting to the Lovely Lara Flynn Boyle stripping, flashing and trying get in bed on a plane with some guy who had to have been flowing like a maple tree in march. Married!! He had to be for that woman not to succeed at get into his first class flight bed with him.

    I am 42 so trust me when I tell you I will take care of Lindsey Davenport for you. Since I have already Done Tonya Harding and Anna Nicole. I will just close my eyes and picture Lara Flynn’s sexy mid drift as that alien in men in black 2.

  21. nocuphere says:

    Crazy bastard 19. I gracefully accept any duties forthcoming as thong inspector. Looking forward to the challenge. Tonya Harding. Brrrrrrr.

  22. hockeyhead says:

    “no i’m 36…larry’s the minor he’s 44”

    don’t really get it but boy is it funny. plus i am 36…anyway, cup how would you like to inspect s. williams…that chick has back upon back….good night.

    oh and i just went to howardstern.com to see what paully shore nailed and i tell you what…..women are not a poor mans game because that is my only way to understand it. (how paully shore could get playmates)

    “he makes me laugh” yaa what ever….read these threads sweetie and you’ll be all over us.

  23. 19Yzerman says:

    What was I thinkin?? (Country tune)

    That Lindsey Davenport was every bit scary as you indicated. I was looking at pic’s and I see what you mean. BRRRRRR

    Tonya boxing pic’s are kind of scary also but, I simply think of her as the young figure skater that my ex hated prior to any sinister activities. That rosy cheek BLONDIE with those pretty blue eyes.

    OK time for me to go home. I might be in the dog house tonight as the Feminine hygiene odor from Lindseys thong won’t go away. WHAAAOOOOO!!!!!

  24. Aetherial says:

    There will be issues with the Canadian Labor board.

    There are some differences though.

    First the legislation is provincial. I am unsure right now what the individual rules are but I know Quebec is generally pretty strong pro-labor when it comes to considering scabs.

    Furthermore, there is some question whether the NHLPA is even a recognized union in Canada or soem provinces in Canada?

    Finally, people are of the misconception that the NHL has to prove it bargained in good faith.

    In Canada, it does not. I simply has to demonstrate that there is a legitimate impasse. This from a labor lawyer last night on the Fan in Toronto.

  25. nocuphere says:

    Yeah 19 i’d nail just about anything, but you have to draw the line at the manlike Davenport.

Leave a Reply