Now Turco gets suspended

From TSN.ca: Dallas Stars goaltender Marty Turco has been suspended four games for his stick infraction in Wednesday night’s game against the Edmonton Oilers.Anyone who watched this game has to agree with this decision. For that matter, anyone who watched this game agrees that the Oilers were the better team and still lost! Anyways, Smyth was cut not bad on the lip, didn’t have to miss any action though. This will hurt the Stars chances at getting the Pacific divison crown, and 2nd overall in the West as they already have 7 regular’s out of the lineup….make it 8. Good news for Oiler fans because most of us expected the March 31 game in Dallas to be a loss……..not anymore.


34 Responses to Now Turco gets suspended

  1. dog_farts says:

    Maybe Marty was just trying to straighten out that crooked nose of his. Is it just me or does Smyth look like a horse?

  2. starsgirl25 says:

    i watched the game last night. i will admit that the stars got their little rear ends kicked in the first period, but after that it was all dallas.(granted i did fall asleep late in the 3rd and missed the OT) you had to admit with all the people the stars had out of the lineup, for them to pull off a win like that, especially coming back from a 2-0 deficit, was really good, considering it all.

    the good news, a few of the injured guys are probably going to be back in their next game. and i’m very confident that tugnutt can fill in for turco. i do believe, if my memory doesn’t fail me, that in tugnutt’s last outing he posted a shut out. yeah the loss of turco hurts but it’s something that this team can come back from.

    i don’t think the stars will get 2nd overall in the west, that’s just silly. i think they can hang onto 4th and hopefully move up to 3rd if san jose will ever stop winning.

    i think 4 games was a little much, i expected at least 2 games but oh well, i’m not going to whine and cry about it.

    what does make me mad is how several oilers fans are reacting to this. makes me mad and sad b/c some are jumping to call these conclusions. it’s also funny.

  3. CaptainModano says:

    Makes perfect sense to me, starsgirl, I don’t really know what the NHL is doing with this explosion of suspensions lately….they’re really being inconsistent with the suspension lengths, and you’re right, Turco deserved between 2 and 4.

    Hopefully Tuggers or Bacashihua (in his NHL debut, if he’s started) can keep Dallas on the winning track. Any word on when Zubie’s back, do you know? Sekeras turned in a good performance last night. Don’t count Dallas out of 2nd just yet…it’s a longshot with Forsberg back now, but they can still catch the Sharks for the Pacific title, and maybe the Avs. Hopefully we’ll face the Oilers in the playoffs again!

    I was reading the TSN.CA message board over this suspension, and it was hilarious how outraged some of the Leafs and Oilers fans were. Both whining, saying he should’ve got more because Belak got 8, even one Oilers fan who said Turco should get kicked out of the league! Funny stuff, let me tell ya! I was crackin’ up.

    GO STARS GO!!

  4. starsgirl25 says:

    i don’t think bacashihua has played an nhl game, and i doubt he would start any games. i have lots of confidence in tugnutt and this is a great time for him to step up and keep the team winning.

    i posted a message on the tsn.ca page about turco’s suspension, it wasn’t put up. i really don’t know why.

    i just want the stars to get home ice in the playoffs, it would be such a huge boost to them when the post season starts.

  5. brewstar03 says:

    I don’t know if Turco should have gotten 4 games though. 2 games probably. Smyth wasn’t hurt that bad, only a cut lip and he didn’t miss any action. Its the NHL trying to save itself from all the media attention. But I can’t blame them. They are just doing what they can.

  6. edmontonrules says:

    I don’t want to take this very far but when people were complaining about Belaks suspension they said that he should get less because he didn’t hurt anyone. Does it matter on how badly the person is hurt? If you break your stick over some guys head and the helmet protects him should it mean that the perp gets less of a penalty?

  7. edmontonrules says:

    Dang I was hoping for an even suspension. I suppose the NHL is playing favorites though. Even though it was obvious that Turco did it on purpose. But I can’t ***** because they had enough balls to even suspend him.

  8. TC_4 says:

    “but after that it was all dallas.” You send me a tape and explain how the play was all Dallas. The scoreboard said that, but I watched every second of that game. Edmonton got 3 GOALS. Dallas got LUCKY 3 times. The Oilers were clearly the better team. I’m giving the Stars there props, they came back, but it was the same story as last year’s playoffs, and eventually your team is going to run out of horse shoes. Game 4 we had you guys on the ropes when we tied it in the 3rd. What happend??? 2 fluke goals. One off Jason Smith, the other Salo stopped and the puck still bounced in the net. You could tell by the look on Morrow’s face when he scored that goal to tie it last night that the Stars shouldn’t even have been close yet they were going to OT despite it. That’s why they controlled the OT is because the Oilers had played so good, and knew in the back of there heads it wasn’t there night. As for the Turco thing…….I doubt you’ve played much hockey in your day, being from Dallas and being a differnet gender, but I defintly could be wrong. Anyways, let someone take a stick and slash you across your face and tell me how you like it!

  9. TC_4 says:

    “gezz you Oiler fans are stupid, he thought the puck was there and he was trying to hit the puck, yyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!” The rednecks are going to be all over you because you stood up for the Oilers. There guys never do a thing wrong, and they are always the better team apparently.

  10. Lint07 says:

    Very fair suspension.

    The most surprising thing is that the NHL actually did suspend him. Let’s face it, the Stars are at the end of a very tough playoff race where all the games are incredibly important and Turco got suspended for 4 of their last 5. Way to go, Mr. Campbell.

    On the other hand, Ryan Smyth is the most annoying pest around the net for a goalie. Being a goalie myself I kinda notice these kind of things… Did anyone noticed what actually happened before Turco stopped the shot? Smyth was pushing his stick blade right on Turco’s mask trying to blind him (this actually works well because it looks like the player is going for the deflection, while he really isn’t) He got away with it and that’s why Turco was mad at him.

    Another incident I noticed (I don’t get to see much Oilers game here unfortunately) was in a game against San Jose where Smyth was on the side of the net, right behind Evgeni Nabokov and slashed him on the higher part of his stick… which made him lose the stick… which lead to an Oilers goal.

    Now don’t get me wrong guys, I think that this is an amazing feature (when he doesen’t get caught) but I can understand why a goalie would lose his temper over him.

  11. JeffBurnz09 says:

    It might just be because I am a Dallas fan, but it didnt look that bad to me. I know that the NHL is cracking down on use of the stick lately, so I understand 4 games, it just didn’t seem that bad. He looked more like he was just swating at his chest and the stick got him in the face by accident. It didn’t seem like something you don’t see every other goalie do at least once a game.

    Deffinately not a good time to happen, as they were really rolling lately, and they have some big games comming up against Vancouver, Edmonton, Minnesota and San Jose. Vancouver shouldnt be too bad, because they suck anyway, and Minnesota may have been a Tugnutt game anyway, but San Jose is a big division game and Edmonton have been flying lately. Would’ve been good to have Marty in the line up. But I think Tugnutt is capable of stepping it up when he has to, so we’ll see what happens. In the long run, I don’t care if they finished 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6, they’re in the playoffs and playing well, thats all the matters.

    Anyone else catch the game last night?? Its the same old story with Dallas/Edmonton. Edmonton gets the lead, carries the play, and seems to be in controll, and Dallas ruins it on them. Poor Oilers, they’ve been the Stars personal ***** for years now, hopefully they don’t meet in the playoffs because A) I’m sick of watching Dallas beat them, and B) They’re a good team that might actually go somewhere if they could get past the first round.

  12. brewstar03 says:

    If Bertuzzi punched Moore in the back of the head and Moore just fell and not gotten knocked out, would Bertuzzi have been suspended at all?

  13. brewstar03 says:

    If I am not mistaken, Smyth’s stick was all over Turco’s face and mask.

  14. brewstar03 says:

    I’m not sick of watching Dallas beat the Oilers in the playoffs! All kidding aside, they do have some great series together.

  15. edmontonrules says:

    “He got away with it and that’s why Turco was mad at him.” – I wasn’t aware that it was something to get away with. Is that a rule that is NEVER called?

    “I can understand why a goalie would lose his temper over him.” – Because someone gets under someone’s skin does it give them the right to hit someone in the face, blatantly and on purpose? If this is the case then Bertuzzi, Havlat, Belak (apparently), and now Turco shoudn’t have been suspended. Ridiculous.

    Ryan Smyth is extremely annoying around the net. It’s because he does his job in front of the net so well. Dino Cicerelli (don’t know if I’m spelling that right) used to do way worse and “get away with it”. Don’t cry because Smyth is doing his job.

  16. TC_4 says:

    “all over Turco’s face and mask”?????????????????????????????????????????????? His stick bumped him in his PROTECTED face!!!

  17. TC_4 says:

    No, no dude, it’s ok, Lint isn’t saying anything bad about Ryan, he just makes the point that he IS doing his job because he’s getting under a goaltenders skin. I don’t think he’s saying anything bad about Smyth or condoning what Turco did at all.

  18. TC_4 says:

    Yes. He would have got 10 games just like Matt Johnson did in 98.

  19. TC_4 says:

    You hit it right on the head Jeff! It seems more then anything espically this year, that it’s in the Oilers heads that they’re not going to win, way more then Dallas being that much better. You look at the way Dallas has won the last 2 years vs the Oil and it’s stupid really. They get every single bounce you can get. Not saying that you guys don’t have a good team, you obviously do, but the Oilers in the games show they are pretty even, the thing seperating the two is Dallas knows how to win, Edmonton hopes they will win. If this rivalry is to stay good/get better, they have to start facing each other past the first round. Last year was a bit of a let down from years past, and if it happend again this year, it would go down further.

  20. Lint07 says:

    Listen buddy. I know you’re gonna get angry if I say anything that may sound against your precious Oilers, but like TC_4 said, I didn’t. In fact I am rooting for them to make the playoffs since the start of the year. One of my friend plays in your team: does Marc-AndrĂ© Bergeron rings a bell to you? that’s right, so why wouldn’t I be cheering for a friend of mine??

    Now about what you said: Putting your stick blade on the mask of a goaltender to blind him is something called interference. I guess Smyth could’ve just bring a baseball bat and knock him out cause that ”rule” is not in the rulebook and is never called either, but I guess he’s a bit more subtle than that…

    ”Because someone gets under someone’s skin does it give them the right to hit someone in the face, blatantly and on purpose? If this is the case then Bertuzzi, Havlat, Belak (apparently), and now Turco shoudn’t have been suspended. Ridiculous.”

    Yeah, got it. Exactly! I’m all for the Bertuzzi hit, it’s all Moores fault and he’s lucky to just be in the hospital cause Bertuzzi should’ve used his stick instead of his glove! (end of sarcasm here). WAKE UP, stop exagerating everything and try for a second to realize how it is on an NHL rink. All those sucker punches and sticks to the head didn’t come up all of a sudden last week, dude! No wonder it’s always been like that cause thats the way the game is played. It’s a high-tempo sport and it’s all about action-reaction, and sometimes the athletes are reacting wrongfully, and in some extremes it is VERY wrong.

    Which brings me to my other point. Are you a goalie? no? See, I knew it. I knew it because if you knew anything about what being a goalie is about you’d know exactly what was going on in Marty Turco’s head. The NHL referees are doing a poor job at protecting goalies nowadays, I woud even say that the goalie protection is a joke, it’s non-existant and their getting pushed around by everyone while their doing the most stressful and important job on the ice.

    You say that interfering on the goaltender and making his life harder is part of Ryan Smyth’s job? Fair enough. Sure it is, and he does it wonderfully… and that’s why I called him the most annoying pest around a goalie net. See? that’s a title I give him, a very good at that. When I play forward (for fun, with friends) I am just that: an annoying little pest and it takes alot of guts to stand in front of a goalie and take the beating of the defensemen, risking receiving the puck in the face and taking the beating of the goaltender…

    …Which brings me to my final point: When you see how badly the goalies are protected by the referees, it comes as no surprise when you see goaltenders starting to ”stick-chopping” the rivals in front of their nets and taking care of themselves at the age of 13-14. Marty Turco did just that, he sent a clear message to Smyth. And in case Smyth didn’t have the time to read what was written on the stick, the message was: ”You may get away doing this with the referee, but you won’t get away doing it with me.” However, he hit him in the face which was totally accidental. By accidental I am saying that he meant to hit him, just not in the face. Controlling a goalie stick with all the equipment is not always as precise than for a skater to control his own stick.

    Bottom line: It’s Ryan Smyth’s job to do what he does, but he has to pay the price also (and he knows it too, believe me). It is also Turco’s job to defend himself, however he got to pay the price if he crosses the line.

    Smyth got what he deserved and Turco got what he deserved as well. The playoffs are starting in less than two weeks, if your Oils make it they are all gonna be stitched & bruised, get used to it. It’s a rough sport, if they don’t like it, they might just as well get out of the front of the net or go play tic-tac-toe in the locker room.

    Go ask Ryan Smyth and he’ll tell you the same thing, he’s a warrior.

  21. Lint07 says:

    pretty much, yeah.

    Thanx for being my translator! đŸ˜‰

  22. The_Conductor says:

    Only 4 games? Are you kidding me. How is what Turco did to Smyth different then Belak? Explain this?

    The is one difference… Ossi didn’t get cut. Turco 4 games for actually causing blood. Give the guy 8 games.

    It was a vicious act. 8 my @$$. This who NHL situation is crap.

  23. JeffBurnz09 says:

    Turco was doing what all goalies do, giving a forward in front of the net a wack in the chest with the stick, but he got it up alittle high. He deserved to be suspended, but it wasn’t an out of the ordinary play.

    Belak was just being careless, and he almost took the guys head off. He didnt get cut because he had the visor on, but it could have had much worse results than the Turco incident did.

    But I’m a Dallas fan, so you knew I’d see it that way.

  24. JeffBurnz09 says:

    Oh yea, its deffinately a mental thing with them lately. You can notice it after the game when they get interviewed, the Oilers players are almost in shock that it happened again. I hate having to play Edmonton, because they usually control the games and just seem to blow it at the end somehow. If you look at win/loss records against eachother, it seems like Dallas domminates them, but they really don’t, Edmonton seems to have them on the ropes the whole game.

    Edmonton can deffinately compete with the top teams in the West, they just have to draw someone other than Dallas, get a win in the first round and build some confidance. The have the talent, and they are pretty exciting to watch.

  25. EmptyNetter says:

    It’s good to hear a goalie’s view on this subject. This year in particular I’ve seen NHL goalies taking shots (Cloutier, Theodore) at players that I thought were uncalled for, though. Shot deflector, screen and agitator have almost become positions in their own right and goalies have their hands full. But when goalies aren’t allowed to be touched yet they can be as physical as they want and play the puck all they want, it’s hard to be sympathetic with their plight.

    As far as MartyTurco is concerned, if a player has to be responsible for his stick at all times, that includes the goalie as well. His stick never should have been anywhere near face level, accident or no.

  26. starsgirl25 says:

    the player could have his face protected too by wearing a visor.

    just get over it and move on, it’s in the past no use whining about it now b/c nothing you say will change anything.

  27. The_Conductor says:

    If there was no visor… then yes Ossi would have been down for the count.

    Turco whether aiming for the chest or not… caught Smyth in the face. You have control over your stick… Belak, Turco… etc. Whether or not it was ment in the chest or not.

  28. Lint07 says:

    Yeah, and that’s why I say that he got what he deserved. 4 games was fair enough, considering the importance of those 4 games.

    Being a goalie doesen’t mean that I want the goaltenders to be protected at all time by the referees or anyone. In fact I think that a goaltender playing the puck outside of his net becomes a 3rd defensemen and players should be allowed to hit him. That way, a goalie would think twice about playing the puck outside of his crease.

  29. TC_4 says:

    Haha, last time I checked, visors don’t cover your mouth!

  30. TC_4 says:

    Couldn’t agree with you more man. If they could draw the Avs, they would at least take them 7 if not knock them out. If they drew San Jose, everyone seems to agree that San Jose wouldn’t even be the favorite!

  31. EmptyNetter says:

    Agreed. This is a well-balanced argument. I thought I detected a goalie-bias when you mentioned “how badly the goalies are protected by the referees”. Truth is, everybody is badly protected by the referees.

  32. starsgirl25 says:

    then he could wear the cage like thing, like what those with a broken jaw wear, that will cover your mouth.

    calm it down brother, calm it down. this isn’t life or death

  33. Lint07 says:

    Dallas fan or not, you are absolutely right.

  34. Lint07 says:

    Don’t forget that Turco is WAY more important to his team than Belak is. The stick in the face was purely accidental (controlling your stick for a goalie can be way less precise with all the equipment than for a forward) while Belak was simply being careless.

    Put it that way, if you were in a tight playoff race and your #1 goalie would be suspended for 4 of your 5 games left in the season, you’d think that this is a pretty severe suspension.

    There’s nothing Turco did that deserved him to be suspended up into the playoffs.

    His fault, but an accident nonetheless.

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