Oilers Fans Speak Out!!!

They will clinch the playoffs, most likely.

Where are all the ones that bashed the trade?

And Lowe’s lookin` good uh?STPMCPHEE writes “The Edmonton Oilers did it again. They won another close game with a goal late in the 3rd frame. It was Dallas on Saturday and Nashville on Monday. As it stands now, Edmonton is currently a whopping 10 points up on their closest competitor, or should I say ‘Predator.’ With 9 games remaining, and only 2 against teams in the playoffs, Edmonton is all but guaranteed a playoff berth.

People in Edmonton should be celebrating, because the Oilers rarely find themselves gauranteed a playoff spot this early in a season. You see, it seems every year it goes right down to the wire, but that’s not gonna happen this year. It’s not like Toronto, where we’re planning the Stanley Cup parade before the playoffs even start, but for a dedicated hockey city, Edmonton should be thrilled. Heck, we can start selling Playoff tickets now! For those who doubted Kevin Lowe, shame on you! For those who still think Edmonton isn’t a lock to make the playoffs, wake up! Edmonton is in, Edmonton is in!!! We haven’t been able to say that for 2 years. The snow is starting to melt here in Alberta, which means that hockey’s post season is about to begin.

Where are the Isbister, Dvorak and Cross bashers now? C’mon, I know you’re hiding somewhere, I dare you to come out and call down the Oilers. Better yet, where are those few Nashville fans that think their team has a shot? I’m calling for you guys, for all the pessimists to come out of hiding and face being proved wrong. After all, only real men have the balls to do such a thing. That’s right, show yourselves, post a comment, try to talk down to Oilers 3-1 record since the trade deadline. I know you’re out there, their certainly were plenty of you last week. That’s right, this is a calling. WHERE ARE YOU!”

OilerFan_3728 writes “Though the Oilers probably should have gotten more for Carter, all those critics of Lowe should be put to peace now. With the aggressive play of both Dvorak and Isbister, it seems like Lowe got an unexpected surprise with immediate contribution from players that weren’t expected to be a big impact so early.”

38 Responses to Oilers Fans Speak Out!!!

  1. mikster says:

    I still have lots of faith in Dvorak. Give him a healthy season on a speedy team that plays in the West and he’ll score 20-25 g’s a season.

  2. Shiva says:

    I didn’t mind the deals when they were made. Carter is an overrated floater. Niinimaa was the tough guy to give up but the return for him was good (Torres has a huge upside).

    That being said, its only been a few games. Hopefully Isbister can keep it up. Cross and Dvorak have had good starts.

    Its great to have a playoff spot sewn up this early. I want to play Vancouver or Detoroit in the first round. I am sick of freaking Dallas.

  3. edmontonrules says:

    The players have only played a few games. Sure they look good now, but who doesn’t right after they are traded. Nolan is doing awesome. So is Amonte. It’s not like the Oilers could do any worse. I believe that they are still living on the adrenaline from the trades. Expect them to be ousted easily in the first round. Anything other than that will be a miracle. ………….. I should change my name.

  4. silva21 says:

    Edmonton… playoffs… tickets…

    I can’t really put these works into a sentence without having to throw in the word NOT!

    Don’t get me wrong, I love all Canadian Hockey teams, inlcuding the Ottawa Sens. But don’t you think your taking this on a cocky confidence ride?

    They win a string of games after the deadline and you acting like Edmonton’s the smartest and best team in the league. As much as I would want to see Edmonton succeed, nothing is really certain in the Province of Alberta.

    I’m not gonna badmouth the Oilers because that city gave a lot to hockey in the 80’s decade and if it weren’t for the salary cap, I would confidently say that they would’ve been a regime or dynasty for another five to ten years after their 84 cup win.

    HOWEVER, a couple of games aren’t gonna prove who is the smarter GM between the deals pulled at the deadline. I believe that Edmonton did what they had to do, and in return, they got good deals but the inconsistency of Dvorak worries me as well as the once overrated Isbister and a up and comign star Raffi Torres.

    As much as I would want to see the Oils succeed, I believe iz way to early to make assumptions and boasts alike.

  5. Just-Checking-In says:

    I think the question that you should be focusing on is why make those trades now?

    Are the Oilers a better team after those trades going into the playoffs?

    Those same trades could have been made before the draft and Edmonton instead of trying to just land in the playoffs and getting tossed by either Dallas, Vancouver or Detroit could have thought about a first round upset, instead of the future salary of every player.

  6. platinumx15 says:

    it is natural to bash a gm when you get a guy like cory cross…especially if its for your leadign scorer

  7. amok says:

    You’re getting ahead of yourself. It’s been a week since the trade deadline. I could go on about Alex Auld being the second coming of Marty Brodeur because in the last week he’s looked unbelieveable in goal for the Canucks, but I won’t, because it’s been just that – one week.

    How often do you see a player excel in his first week only to tail off later on? Or a rookie called up from the farm score a goal in his first couple of games? It happens all the time. Don’t get too excited until they keep their play up for any sustained amount of time.

    Honestly, look at those players: Dvorak, Cross, and Isbister. For all of Dvorak’s potential he’s only had one 20+ goal season. Isbister’s just about the same. Sure, they’ve both scored a goal in their time with the Oilers, but they should be expected to be pumped up about joining a new team in a city that’s excited about the playoffs. Cross is dependable but could have been had for free earlier. Come back in a year and we’ll see how the trade looks.

    You are right about the Oilers being guaranteed a playoff birth. I was one of the people that said it wasn’t guaranteed last week when they were five points up with one extra game played, but the Oilers’ strong play in the last week should lock it up for them. But keep in mind that the level of competition for the 8th spot this year is nowhere near what it was last year. The Oilers are on pace for 90 points. Dallas got that last year and finished 10th. Nashville’s on pace for 80, which last year would have placed them 12th. One could even make the case that the Oilers are behind last year’s pace, where they finished with 92 points.

  8. amok says:

    I forgot to mention Torres. He’s really what I see as the key to the deal. In time he could be the best player involved the deal.

  9. torontoiskickass says:

    DEATH TO EDMONTON (aka hell)!!!!

    GO FLAMES GO!!!!

  10. TC_4 says:

    I was furious after the deals. I stated that very well in the postings on trade day. But I’m a little more confident in them now. Again, I believe they could have got more for Carter, but Dvorak still has 30 goal potential. Not saying that he’s going to do that, but he has played well since arriving. I did like the Niinimaa trade however. I believe that Isbister will break out with the Oilers, and Torres is going to be a first line LW, 30 goal a year guy. I don’t think that there going far in the playoffs, but out of the three bottom teams in the West, they have the best chance to upset. The defense is actually better now too. They have one of the biggest blue lines in the league now! Cross has played good since arriving, and all season for that matter(+13 when he arrived, -1 in the first game, +3 against Dallas, and had an assist last night). I’m not going to get unrealistic and say there winning it all, but I believe if they stay healthy, and play either Vancouver, or Dallas(without Guerin, and Turco’s ankle bothering him still)they could pull an upset in the first round. One thing I will state is that they will finish higher then 8th, probably 7th. I do believe that however they play in the first round, they’ll at least take them to 6 or 7 games.

  11. TC_4 says:

    Whoever, not however, and no Canuck fans, I didn’t say they would with out a doubt beat them, I said they could, and again I like your team.

  12. RangerSteve says:

    I don’t think it ever was gonna be a matter if they weren’t going to make the playoffs, but they definately could have gotten more for Carter. I hope the Oilers take on Detroit or Vancouver in the 1st Round and make them sweat it out or possibly knock them out. I think even though the Oil did get ripped on that Carter trade, they felt Dvorak would fit better into their system. I love seeing Isbister in an Edmonton Uni..should be great….GO OIL!!!!!!!!!

  13. STPMCPHEE says:

    What assumptions? As if they won’t be in the playoffs this year. Am I really overstating it that much? I don’t think so. And since when can’t you put the words playoffs, tickets and Edmonton in the same sentence? In Edmonton’s 24 seasons, they’ve missed the playoffs only 5 or so seasons.

    Also, the gist of this article was to knock down those who jump on and off the Oilers bandwagon on a weekly basis. Either you’re a fan, or you’re not. Nothing pisses me off more then people who cut down Lowe, then a week later, think he’s a genious. I kept saying “study these players before you judge the trades.” But no, people just go by what all the other uneducated fans (and there’s a lot of them) say, then it snowballs, and the next thing you know, theres this dark, end-of-the-world type atmosphere in Edmonton. I mean c’mon people.

  14. STPMCPHEE says:

    Yeah, because Dvorak was a throw in you idiot.

  15. STPMCPHEE says:

    Yeah, but Auld haasn’t shown in the past that he can score 31 goals, like Dvorak did 2 years ago. Isbister scored 22 goals a couple years ago too. I know Auld is a goalie, but if say, 2 years ago he had a stellar year, then maybe I’d be able to agree with your comment. The guys the Oilers got are in totally different situations, with new beginnings.

  16. STPMCPHEE says:

    Thanks for that in depth analysis

  17. STPMCPHEE says:

    Thank you, that’s exactlty it. Just like in Minnesota, the Oilers have a system, and Dvorak fits into that system perfectly. After all, isn’t it a team game.

  18. wayne2 says:

    I still think the Carter-Pisa for Cross-Dvorak trade was a mistake.Isbister-Torres for Niniima-pick is a good trade.Isbister will fit in with the oilers and for some reason local boys always make that extra effort for their hometown teams(look at Todd White in Ottawa).Torres will be good shortly and the good thing is Edmonton much like the sens found a way to be competitive with little money and by keeping each of their teams young.GO CANADA GO.

  19. mikster says:

    Meh….Dvorak loved NYC, i don’t think he is too happy now, but he’ll get used to it soon.

  20. mikster says:

    Then burn your Salo jersey

  21. mikster says:

    Yeah but Dvo has to get his confidence back. If he doesn’t drive to the net, he won’t do much.

    Sather is questioning Radek’s ability to finish, so we’ll see.

    I still have confidence in him.

  22. STPMCPHEE says:

    No no no Mikster, you’ve got it all wrong. If you live in Edmonton and read the newspapers and interviews on Dvorak, you’ve reconsider your statement. Dvorak loves Edmonton, he went as far as saying “This is my town.” Dvorak couldn’t be a happier.

  23. amok says:

    I see where you’re coming from with this, but my point is that it’s still too early to tell. For the majority of Dvorak’s career he’s been a guy who scores under 20 goals. And he’s been around a while now. All I’m saying is let’s just wait a season before determining how he’ll do.. still too early to tell.

  24. RangerSteve says:

    It doesn’t matter what Sather thinks now cuz he traded the guy. I don’t have confidence in him, but lpaying with York and Isbister should help. He dropped off too much in too little time in his production. He’ll fit in with the Oilers and their system and that will eventually have him gain the confidence back.

  25. devfanman4 says:

    I think the man point of his article was that Edmonton is basically guaranteed a spot in the playoffs with about 10 games still remaining in the season. That’s a big feat for a team that was falling in the standings 2 months ago and were threatened to be overtaken by Nashville. So what if he’s been a little over the top? He’s a fan(atic). I say congrats on the success of the Oilers this year and hopefully they’ll be able to pull some upsets off in the playoffs and help my Devils out. 😉

  26. Tradedude says:

    where are all the cross bashers?

    you got one right here buddy.

    Oils should now start building a team with some veteran help and some size. i think oils could make it to 6-7 games in the 1st round if they keep it up.

  27. STPMCPHEE says:

    That fanatic is me! Yes, I love the Oil!

  28. jofa says:

    You make it sound like these new acquisitions have been the keys to a 3-1 record since the trade deadline. Yeah, they’re 3-1, but that has been more a result of guys like Smyth, Comrie and Hemsky coming alive, as well as some clutch performances from role players.

    In 3 games (plus the extra one that isbister played on the trade deadline day), the trio of dvorak, isbister and cross have got 2 goals and 3 assists. Smyth alone has got more points (2g, 4a), and Hemsky (1g, 4a) has been huge in these games. Even Comrie (2g,1a) is breaking out of his slump finally.

    Regardless of their record, I don’t think you can say that Carter and Pisa for Dvorak and Cross is a good trade by Lowe. We could have gotten more for Carter, we shouldn’t have given up on Pisa for nothing in return, and at least should have got a draft pick out of there for this year’s deep draft.

    Edmonton is a better team offensively because of the deal, losing Carter and picking up Isbister, Dvorak and eventually Torres. I like how they are looking up front and they have a great future on offense (Rita, Hemsky, Torres, Stoll, Chimera), but defensively, you have to admit they are much weaker than they were before. Brewer, Semenov, Smith, Staios, Ferguson, and Cross aren’t exactly a dream team on the blue line…

  29. jofa says:

    I’m sorry, but there are very few athletes that would appreciate moving from New York to Edmonton in the middle of winter… Dvorak probably won’t last much longer than 1-2 seasons in northern Alberta.

  30. jofa says:

    Man, criticising a trade isn’t exactly jumping on and off the bandwagon. Was Doug Weight for Hecht and Reasoner a good trade? Was Dopita a good acquisition? Were these guys a good fit in the Edmonton system? Only Reasoner of that group is still around, and he’s had to struggle to hold onto a roster spot this year.

    Don’t get me wrong, I like Lowe as a GM for Edmonton, but he’s definitely made mistakes in the past. What he did was ballsy, trading away the top scorer and top defenseman in the middle of a drive for the playoffs. It could have just as easily gone the other way for him, so people had the right (yes, even educated fans) to criticize his decision to disrupt the locker room at such a critical time.

  31. STPMCPHEE says:

    They’re the reason for the Dallas win, and yes, the other 2 were team efforts. But it was the trades that woke up the team and got them to realize the importance of winning. It was a nice wakeup call. Yes, the Carter trade is good, Carter didn’t play defense, Dvorak does. It’s a system the Dvorak fits into, Carter doesn’t.

  32. RangerSteve says:

    Dvorak plays defense? Since when?

  33. TC_4 says:

    I gotta back my team with one more comment. I think that us Oiler fans are getting excited because our defense looks a lot better. Jason Smith is starting to play like the old Jason Smith, if Semenov was up all year, he would be metioned along with Jackman for the Calder, and Cross(despite what some of you say)has played more aggressive, and just flat out better this season. Remember, this guy wasn’t too bad for the Leafs in 01, I know the guy, and I know he has something to prove this year, and his plus 16(I think)rating this season would indicate that. Then you got the first line of Smyth – Marchant – Hemsky gelling so well together, and the talent that’s on the second and third lines, well, sorry for getting excited. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, out of the three bottom teams in the West, Edmonton has the best chance to upset. I hate to tell you Vancouver fans this, and if they don’t play the Oil it will upset me too, I believe it’s their year to get upset. 94 Detroit, 95 Quebec/Colorado, 97 Dallas, 2000 St.Louis, and 03 Vanouver??? I hope not, but it just seems to happen. I swear I knew it was going to happen to St.Louis that year. Just something about that team wasn’t right(how bout Turek, I knew he wasn’t that good).

  34. TC_4 says:

    I don’t know if Dvorak plays defense that well, but he has looked better defensivly then Carter did. I go to a lot of the games, and I notice one thing, that Carter causes as many goals as he scored.

  35. TC_4 says:

    Actually, I think the d is better. I thought they needed a veteran d-man going into the deadline, and that was it. Then they gave up two and only got one back. But Cross and Semenov are huge, Brewer is pretty big himself, Staios, Ferguson, and Smith play so hard and physical, and Bergeron has looked good in his two games, and should stick with the team. And in the first couple games, the defense has looked the most solid it has all year. Plus, these guys they got know there way around there own end better then Carter did(as you stated).

  36. STPMCPHEE says:

    I know, I love the Oilers team, I liked the trades, and I like our depth. Everything you said is how I feel!

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