Oilers Protest Nylander Signing

The Oilers have filed a complaint with the NHL over Nylander’s signing with the Capitals. Apparently they had come to terms with him a day earlier. This is almost with precedent and it has greatly impacted Edmonton’s subsequent moves and strategy. It’ll be interesting how this pans out.http://www.tsn.ca/headlines/news_story/?ID=212659

13 Responses to Oilers Protest Nylander Signing

  1. Oil-Life says:

    k what are we going to do? make him come play for us? enough seriously! get over it k-lowe and find somebody else!  we still are waiting for that big name player you promised us, so how about pulling that off?

  2. wingsfan13 says:

    I busted out laughing after reading this.  I didn't even know this was possible until now.  I wouldn't wanna play in edmonton either michael, ur awesome.  The ultimate snub.  Nylander:  "Crap. I forgot about them (Oilers), what the hell was I thinking they suck ass.  Ooooh the Capitals offered me the same amount and Ovechkin.  F**K this I'm going to Washington."

  3. Komic-J says:

    Nah…if Kevin Lowe wins this case, you'll probably get somekind of compensation like picks or prospects. I wouldn't be surprised to see Bettman use the RFA chart…

  4. brott says:

    I think that little thud was edmonton hitting rock bottom. When a player signs with the capitals over your team with the same money offer? ouch.

  5. FlamesBlow says:

    I think him protesting is kinda a joke but hey if he wins i think the RFA chart would be an interesting way to settle. Just to see what he would be worth also

  6. Iceman23 says:

    Yeah, but the Caps just Signed Poti, Kozlov and already had Ovechkin.  Nylander added to the mix and this team may give those Penguins a run for their money.  And I would almost guarantee AO getting more points than Crosby next season.

  7. kamullia says:

    Michael Nylander is not a superstar, but this is a big deal nonetheless if it happened as the Oilers claim it did.

    Let us say Sidney Crosby was a free-agent and signed with Toronto one day, and the next day turns out he changes his mind and signs with Phoenix. Would that be a bid deal? You bet. Or this same year, how about if Drury, Briere, Smyth, or Gomez would have pulled something of the sort? You cannot have players/agents agree to terms of a contract, do faxing with signed proposals, and then when it comes time to sign the real contract, have the player refute it and sign a contract with another team. That is unacceptable, regardless of which player/agent does it. The problem here is, who do you punish and how?

    Do you punish the Capitals? Probably not, as more than likely they would not have known Nylander and his agent had agreed with Edmonton. But if there is evidence they did know the circumstances and made offers to pry Nylander away after the fact, then they do merit punishment. Say twice the amount that the contract for the player was for, against a cap, for the entire duration of the contract would be a good punishment for most teams. In this case it would be $9.75M for four years. They get to keep the player, but his cap hit doubles. This will discourage for certain any team to make an offer someone already signed, at least if the player is a mid-to-higher echelon impact in economic terms. A more mild approach would be to give picks from the offender to the affected, as in Edmonton acquires several picks from Washington due to the signing. This could be a mild or strong punishment depending on which picks and how many of them, and even when. I would say the make the punishment fair, whatever picks, should be in a window of say 5 years. So that Edmonton for example would be able to choose in the next 5 years when to use those picks and in what draft. Again, only if proven tampering by the team is found, which I believe might be real hard to do.

    The real punishment should be given to agents for sure, and certainly to players also. How do you punish an agent? Suspend his license for the first offense. A 5-10 year suspension will probably cool off most, if not all agents from even thinking it. If that is not enough, on top of a suspension, limit his NHL list of clients to 5 players for the first 5 years after being reinstated. That will most certainly shy everyone from doing it. Do it again (or any other type of worthy offense), and you are banned for life.

    Now, the players must be punished also. Why? Because all agents confer with their clients first, before making a final decision on where to sign. Therefore undoubtedly, if there were signatures from the player’s camp as Edmonton claims, Nylander must be punished because he was most certainly contacted by his agent before his agent signed any fax from Edmonton. I say a fit punishment is give him a choice: Banned from NHL play, or play out his contract but forego 3/4 of all earnings, including bonuses, to say…the Players retirement fund, or a worthy charity for that matter. That would be a fit punishment for any player, and will certainly discourage all players from doing anything of the sort. In this case, Michael Nylander would be donating $3.66M of his yearly earnings (plus 3/4 of his bonuses), for a donation total of $14.625M (plus bonuses). Or he could just go play somewhere else, of course.

    In essence, you cannot conduct business as a team in the NHL (or any league for that matter) if you sign the preliminary paperwork and still have to wonder if you have signed the player yet, or not. And so long as the player was not in duress to sign (i.e. pressured to sign for a team, ala Malkin with Magnitogorsk), this kind of action cannot be tolerated. This affects all teams, and if you let it slide, it could happen to any team and with any player, and therefore the punishment against the culprits must be severe.

    In the words of a Disney character in one of their past and popular movies: “Off with his head!”

  8. PointMeAtTheSky says:

     I totally agree with Kamullia. Well thought out and illustrated. This is unacceptable, and unfair to the teams that get snubbed. There definitely should be some reprimand.

     I was wondering what had happened. One minute TSN is saying that Nylander was an Oiler, then it disapeared and next thing I know he's a Capital.

     I understand the media spotlight, the intrusion is causes, the hard time the fans give the players, but if I were a hockey player, I would be honoured to play with such legendary teams such as Edmonton and Montreal. It would be a dream come true.

  9. wingedim says:

    Is there not precedent set with a similar situation a number of years back with Petr Nedved? Vancouver and Toronto if I recall. The situation is fuzzy, but I do seem to recall compenstaion/restitution paid out because of the Snafu.
    I do agree that if this is the way it played out, then Nylander's agent should be reprimanded. Question I have is, was this all done unbeknownst to Nylander (the Oil negotiations I mean) then when he found out, or was this a classic case of playing both sides against each other to raise the 'bar' for the actual team Nylander wanted to 'go' to?

  10. tucksfan says:

    even if it is true…..nylander wants to play for the caps and not the oilers so if he did go play for the oil he wouldnt put his best effort in ne way

  11. brott says:

    haha that will not happen. more goals yeah not more points.. not even close

  12. kamullia says:

    Next to no chance that Nylander did not know. One of the first things an agent does is get in touch the minute he gets a viable offer to consult with his client (i.e. Nylander).

    In theory it is possible that Nylander said to his agent: “Look, I trust you, I do not care one bit where I play, just get me the best deal you can and when it is done, give me a call and tell me where I am playing.” But how many players really do not care at all? Not many, unless they are scrap players. More than likely Nylander knew of every offer, just a few minutes after his agent received it, and without a doubt had to give his OK to the agent, before the agent faxed anything to Edmonton. Otherwise, his agent would be revoked his license the minute it comes to light he signed and faxed paperwork without consulting his client. An agent is very much like a lawyer in that sense, has to do what the client wants, and has to legally inform him before committing the client to anything.

    I am willing to bet that Edmonton was the best offer he got, and Nylander decided to go with it, when after making several signed faxes, the Caps called. And that is when Nylander probably said, I’d rather play in Washington, and his camp started the back-pedaling and stalling with Edmonton for the last of the paperwork, while they worked the contract out with Washington.

  13. baltic_thunder says:

    Excellent reponse from Kamullia – very well thought out. You're hired to mediate this mess.

    This issue can't be easily brushed under the mat. The Oilers are owed. Whether they are owed by Nylander alone or split between him and the Caps but there definitely seems merit for some sort of compensation. Just imagine if this became more of the norm than the exception? 

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