Overrated vs. Underrated

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Most Overrated Hockey players:

Mario Lemieux – Hockey analysts are speaking as if Lemieux may be the savior for the Pittsburgh Penguins young and underrated hockey team. At 39, Mario is still labeled as one of the best in the game although it seems more and more evident that he’s slowing down even though most Lemieux fans will not admit the obvious. Sometimes I believe that younger players have so much respect for this once ironically underrated hockey player, that they feel when he’s on the ice they’re obligated to not check the big center with full intensity. At this stage of his career, he’s not capable of carrying a team on his back; although some believe so.

Mike Modano – Mike Modano has always been vulnerable to highly physical contests. The Dallas Stars relied on him to notch points while being the leading man up front. It is evident that Modano is no longer capable of racking up points as he once did. As captain for team USA in the 2005 World Championship tournament he struggled immensely. It appears he is to be headed downward in terms of production.

Jay Bouwmeester – Bouwmeester was just recently invited to attend a tryout camp for the upcoming winter Olympics in Turin. This overrated and unproven young hockey player will be expected to compete with the very best Canada has to offer. In 2004-2005 he played a full season in the AHL for San Antonio and Chicago only scoring 27 points in 82 games while sporting a +/- of minus 18. These statistics are not in the very least impressive. Not saying that the young defender will not one day become a top flight player in the NHL, he just seems to be slightly overrated at the time being.

Martin St. Louis – Well deserved Heart Trophy winner Martin St. Louis had an outstanding 2003-2004 campaign but hockey analysts seem to think the world of the small hockey player after just one great season. His lack of size may prevent him from taking his game to an even higher level. Until he proves he can consistently play at the same level as he did his previous NHL season, he should never be compared to the likes of Forsberg and Iginla as one of the game’s best.

Alexei Yashin – His contract speaks louder than words. The $90-million man needs to live up to the game’s most immovable contract. He’s the Islanders franchise player in dollars only. Yashin’s attitude and demeanor have constantly come into question throughout his career and has below average defense ability.

Most Underrated Hockey Players:

Alyn McCauley – Alyn McCauley is blessed with stellar hands and superb vision. He is one of the most defensively minded forwards in the NHL. At the age of 28, I’m sure he’ll have some even better seasons to come. Why he was not invited to attend the tryout camp for the upcoming winter Olympics is beyond me.

Glen Murray – Does it surprise you to know Murray ranks third in goals and 11th in scoring over the past three seasons? Glen Murray owns the soft hands of a natural goal-scorer.

Mike Richards – Mike Richards has incredible imagination with the puck and excellent playmaking ability. Usually playing in the shadow of first overall draft pick and teammate Vincent Lecavalier, he is finally getting the recognition he deserves. I believe he is the most valuable player to the Tampa Bay Lightening and will be for many years. It is not out of reach for this young player to one day lead the league in point and capture the Heart Trophy as the most valuable player in the entire league.

Alex Tanguay – Alex Tanguay is an extremely gifted winger who possess blinding speed, versatility, the ability to hold onto the puck for long stretches and tremendous one-on-one moves. Tanguay had an outstanding season in 2003-2004 scoring 79 points in only 69 games. If the young forward would have played the entire season he would have given Martin St. Louis a run for the Art Ross Trophy; this still did not help him in the selection of participating in the World Cup tournament in 2004.

An ongoing trend within the NHL: Ironically underrated players who gain recognition eventually become overrated within time.

im out, Limer signing off


39 Responses to Overrated vs. Underrated

  1. Nothingman says:

    I think you’ve tried to sound wise on Lemieux (and you do) but whilst he’s slowed down with injuries, that still doesn’t mean he isn’t dominant when he does appear. He’ll prove you wrong one last time.

    Notice the correlation between Modano and leadership. He’s one of the league’s best A Captains, and one of the worst C Captains, can’t explain why. He’ll be back as a fantastic and productive 2 way center again next season.

    I agree with your other 3 overrateds, though give St Louis a chance to back up his stellar season.

    Murray isn’t underrated, he’s overrated. He’s rode the back of players like Thornton and Allison throughout his career. Put him on a team with no absolute superstar first line center, such as say, Edmonton, and let’s see what he does.

    Tanguay is good, but only as good as Forsberg can make him. Having Hejduk on your line as well helps immensely, nonetheless he is a greatly talented young man.

  2. NemiNA says:

    Mike Richards is the Flyers. You’re thinking of Brad Richards, and yes I agree that he is underrated.

  3. lukeleim says:

    Oh man, I mean’t Brad Richards not Mike. I don’t know how I could have gotten the two mixed up.

  4. lukeleim says:

    my misake. I don’t know how I could have gotten the two mixed up considering brad richards is one of my favourite players.

  5. Bishop7979 says:

    speaking of iginlia, he should be placed on the overrated list in my opinion. He’s a very good allaround player, who is physical and skill but he is only averaging 61 points per year.

    as points of comparision Elias averages 65 per season, Hejduk averages 67 points per year and neither is never placed on a list with the best in the game. Naslund averages 68 points per season (based on seasons he played at least 40 games) Forsberg has an average of 74 per season, Modano averages 77 (not including the lockout season) Finally I will point to a player who I would have thought to be Overrated till I actually looked hard at his stats, Sundin 80 points per season average.

    But everyone seems to get excited about iginla, but he has only lead the league in scoring once, and has had more seasons scoring 35 goals or under (6) than not (2).

  6. sumthingbruin says:

    Murray has never played with Allison. He was traded for him. Besides Thornton he hasn’t really played with anyone great, although I think he got a few shifts with Lemieux in Pitt, but didn’t put up any numbers.

    The guy has an absolute rocket of a wrist shot. I really think he has one of the quickest, if not the quickest, release in the league.

    You’re right though…he needs to play with a center.

  7. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    Lemieux over rated? What the ***** are you talking about? Any Lemieux haters can kiss my ass..

    He STILL averages nearly or above a point a game when he plays, so what the ***** makes him over rated? He’s not over rated, he just needs to start playing again.

  8. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    To continue my last comment. Hey, you can’t even spell HART trophy let alone pick who deserves it…

    And to your above comment, I don’t think it’s possible to have mean’t Brad Richards, because it is MEANT NOT MEAN’T!!

    Jeese, may be your first *****ing article which *****ing sucked should be your last *****ing article.

  9. skandelousHABSfan says:

    Overrated- Brian McCabe, Olli Jokinen, Brendan Morrison, George Laraque

    Underrated- Michael Ryder (although he does need a few more good season to prove himself), Tomas Vokoun, Marian Gaborik

  10. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    Not really disagreeing, but this is the points per game of those players. (Career)

    Jarome Iginla: 0.803

    Patrik Elias: 0.822

    Milan Hedjuk: 0. 885

    Markus Naslund: 0.796

    Peter Forsberg: 1.277

    Mike Modano: 1.004

    Mats Sundin: 1.002

    Those even this stat doesn’t mean alot, because most would agree, Sundin is much more valuable then Mike Modano. Why Sundin wasn’t nominated for the Hart in 2002 I’ll never know. He lost out to Patrick Roy, Jarome Iginla, and Jose Theodore. But Sundin deserved it. None of those guys did as much for the team as Sundin did, and the award is for most valuable to his team. People seem to forget this alot. I believe Iginla deserved this years Hart, cuz he took a team with nothing else on it, and brought it to the playoffs. (Post-season doesn’t count….) Something the team hadn’t done in seven years. St Louis was on a team with tons of talented guys, like Khabibulen, Modin, Lecavalier, and Brad Richards. I think Brodeur was the third nominee? He did great goaltending for a trap team…

  11. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    Over rated player of the century is Martin Brodeur. Everyone thinks he’s this big thing, but he plays on a trap team. Luongo too. They both sucked in the World Championships, and Luongo was horrible in the World Cup game he played.

  12. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    I agree except with two things…

    Brendan Morrison isn’t over rated. Only Canuck fans over rate him.

    Brian McCabe isn’t over rated, but Bryan McCabe is.

  13. lukeleim says:

    cry me a f***ing river you f***ing faggot. I wrote that article at 1 in the morning pretty damn fast… SO you can lick my bag

  14. lukeleim says:

    you think Lemieux isn’t overrated but Brodeur is. WOW, you know a lot about hockey you f***ing c*ck sucker.

  15. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    Ya ya nice excuse…

  16. skandelousHABSfan says:

    thanks for the spelling lesson….lol…but i think the point still stands…

    The reason i think morrison is overrated is cause he always has great players on the wings…without them he is nothing.

  17. lukeleim says:

    why don’t you get a job loser (I’m at work at the moment)… you think your so gramatically correct… you most likely work at the local high school as a janitor living with your mother getting her to spell check every single article you post. You probably waste valuable time on HTR posting article after article considering you can’t get a girlfriend or have any friends at all for that matter.

  18. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    That’s true. He really doesn’t score nearly enough for someone with Naslund and Bertuzzi.

  19. ranger_fan says:

    Lemieux is probably rated correctly buy fans around the world. He is in my opinion the third best hockey player ever. Broduer has benefited from great team defense, averaging only about 15 shots a game. He is one of the best, but I think he is overrated. He will do worse when Scott Stevens retires.

    Also keep the profanity level lower. Leafy has it bad enough being a Leaf fan, and probably waiting a whole life time to see the Blue and White win a cup. Immature bashings aren’t necessary.

  20. ranger_fan says:

    Speaking of wasting valuable time, wasting your time under all of the names you have been is quite pathetic.

  21. wingerxxx says:

    Modano is definitely not overrated. He pulled a Brian Leetch and just did not respond well to being made a captain. Some players just don’t well the “C” well, and Modano is one of them. At least for now. Guys like Leetch and Modano are better “A”s than captains. It doesn’t mean that they are overrated players. Any team in the league would love to have Mike Modano on their side. Dallas would be well suited to try and get Hatcher back…Plus, Modano had some major issues going on off the ice, as well. Also, a kid like Bouwmeester, who was thrown headfirst into the fire as a rookie, doesn’t deserve the overrated tag just yet. I don’t hear anyone calling him a gamebreaking defenseman, so let’s let time have its course as far as he is concerned.

    I wouldn’t call Yashin overrated either, simply because hardly anyone is singing his praises these days. I think that in order to be overrated, you need to have at least a few major sources trumping you up. Yashin doesn’t even have that in Long Island. But Glen Murray and Alex Tanguay being underrated…definitely agree with you there. That is a very good call. And Tanguay should only get better. The Avs are like the Atlanta Braves of hockey. They just pull Drurys, Hejduks and Tanguays out of nowhere, and make them stars.

  22. wingerxxx says:

    I agree with you totally. Anyone that can manage a point per game playing for the Penguins…why it’s something that only Mario Lemieux could do! Maybe Gretz in his prime…but it says a lot about Lemieux’s abilities, even at his ripe old age. Let’s hope he tries to stick around.

  23. lukeleim says:

    you make some reasonable points…

  24. NYRules says:

    Bouwmeester is already among the best and deserved that. Watch his play not his stats.

    Who talks about Modano anymore?

    St. Louis everyone knows had one good year and that was it, well see what comes. He’ll be good but not close to as good as last year.

    Yashin……

    Murray gets recognized for being good but his true scoring ability is underlooked, however thats because he takes slapshots and gets garbage goals. Its like Graves back in the day.

    Brad Richards….. hes good but Lecavalier is the backbone of that team

    Tanguay is great, hes not underrated just hasnt been around long enough.

  25. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    Well… I don’t have a girlfriend, I don’t have a job, and I do live with my mother…

    That said, I don’t turn thirteen till Tuesday.

  26. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    Considering my life time is 12 years 361 days 8 hours and 17 minutes. Then ya I have been.

  27. ranger_fan says:

    Wow Leafy you do have too much time. I meant you will wait a whole lifetime.

  28. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    It’s summer, I got plenty of time. I had a choice today, go swimming with my friend Kassie, or hang here all day. I can’t swim, so I chose to stay here.

  29. Habfanforever says:

    slightly overrated: Martin Brodeur. Yes he is talented but NEVER would he have put up those numbers if he hadn’t played on a team that was trap-minded with the likes of Scott Stevens and Scott Niedermayer on defense.

    underrated: Steve Sullivan. Super consistant. Plays a minimum of 75 games and puts up numbers ranging from 65 to 75 points per season and this for the last 4 or 5 seasons.

  30. lukeleim says:

    That’s awesome, I totally agree… Steve Sullivan was on my list of underrated players, i just became lazy and didnt want to type anymore

  31. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    Ya I was glad that on NHL 2005 EA sports ranked him 89 out of 100. That’s higher then Lindros, Peca, Nieuwendyk, and alot of other great players. It’s the same as Roberts, Nolan, and Paul Kariya.

  32. ranger_fan says:

    EA Sports is a joke Leafy. you have to go with the 2K series

  33. masarume says:

    LOL! You’re so classic man. Good stuff.

  34. lukeleim says:

    ya man, 2k kicks ass

  35. dudemar says:

    Iginla doesn’t have much support, and alot of people don’t hear much of him playing in Calgary, at least in the eastern U.S. I wouldn’t say he’s been overrated his whole career, maybe just for the most recent playoffs.

  36. dudemar says:

    Brodeur is overrated, I’m not so sure about Luongo though…I think he’s pretty damn good.

  37. NjDEVSFN says:

    Ultra-underrated:

    Sergei Brylin

    3 Stanley Cups with the Devils and has played virtually everywhere the Devils have asked him to play, hes not big, but hes tough…no team would complain if he was around

  38. jrl2282 says:

    Article makes no sense…

    Since when is Gaborik and Ryder underrated?

    McCabe is always overrated and Laraque overrated was he even ever rated?

  39. macfeetie says:

    You are so right! I've been watching Modano play for over 14 years and this guy is a world class floater. His game under Hitch and Gainey improved slightly, but put a body on this guy and he goes gutless. All fake hustle and average production. But living here in Dallas you'd think the guy cured cancer. When he ties his skate the sportscasters here comment on what a lovely bow he put on it, and when he goes pointless for three games they go back a year or 2  to show his "Classic Highlights" (Never any other players) No wonder Tippet busted him to the 4th line. When he can't score everyone blames the second line for not stepping up, or his wingers on the first line for not feeding him. It's NEVER Sweet Mikey's fault – It's Tippet's, or Turco's, or Morrow's. What rubbish! – good job pegging hiim for the overrated player he is.

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