Penguins may be looking at Ilya Kovalchuk

Mark Madden of the Beaver County Times is speculating that a major blockbuster would make sense for the Pittsburgh Penguins.

The main jist of the speculation is that the Penguins could become a true force by trying to pry Ilya Kovalchuk from the Thrashers. In order to try to get the highly talented Russian from the Thrashers it is speculated that it would take Jordan Staal, draft picks and a top notch player. It is mentioned that the Thrashers may listen to offers for Kovalchuk due to the fact that he is set to become unrestricted at the end of next season and will likely leave to sign elsewhere because of the teams poor play.

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http://www.timesonline.com/articles/2008/11/02/sports/penguins/doc490e810d0de1d689465020.txt


31 Responses to Penguins may be looking at Ilya Kovalchuk

  1. mojo19 says:

    Might be just me but this article didn't show up properly. There is a lot of jibberish and computer lingo. Looks like a technical error, hope im not the only one.

  2. Fromage_Blanc says:

    Pitts needs a Defenceman right now, not another stellar player. And I don't really understand why they would still keep up at trading young prospects. Anyway, Fleury/Gonchar/Withney/Malkin/Kovalchuk would drain a lot of salary.

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  5. FlamingHomer says:

    I was a bit skeptical about the validity of this rumor until I saw it was from the Beaver County Times, long considered the leader in cutting edge hockey journalism.

  6. hockey_lover says:

    I'm kind of torn on this one.

    Their D is in shambles right now but thats only because of injuries. When Gonchar and Whitney come back and are healthy, its a solid (if not spectacular) defense core. They get the job done effectively but aren't imposing fear into the opponents. Which is fine. They get the job done. I have also heard rumblings that Sydor wants out if he isnt going to play. I wonder if Atlanta would take him.

    They do need some help scoring, which I didnt think was going to happen. Things seem to be coming together a bit more recently. One thing that Therrien has to do is stop juggling the lines every two games. Give guys a change to get comfy for christ sake.

    Kovalchuck would be a godsend on that first line with Crosby, just as Hossa was. Even with Malkin, it would be pretty awesome. I dont have much of an issue letting Staal go because he isnt all that happy being the number #3/defensive line anchor anyway. Unless the Pens offer him at least $5.5 a year, he will want to walk anyway. Why NOT get something for him and how much better than Ilya does it get?

    The problem is Ilya + draft pickS + prospect is a little steep. When they got Hossa, Atlanta wasnt getting a top notch player in return (Armstrong and Christensen certainly arent THAT amazing). Atlanta WILL get a top notch player in Staal. He does have the scoring potential as he showed in his first year. But since then has been relegated to checking/defensive duties .. and he does them extremely well.

    I would say:

    To Pittsburgh
    Ilya Kovalchuck

    To Atlanta
    Jordan Staal
    Darryl Sydor
    2nd round pic

    Although, now that I look at it, Im not so sure Atlanta needs another dman. Their top 4 are decent. Schneider isnt doing so well mind you.

    Anywho, Im not really sure who the pens could/should give up but if Staal is already on the package, another roster player / high draft pick / top prospect is too much.

  7. prospectiv says:

    Sydor wouldnt be traded without that 2nd round pick and there's no way Staal and Kovalchuk have the same trade value right now (maybe in 3 years, but not right now).

  8. pezzz says:

    sigh….yeah of course it would make sense to make a blockbuster if there wasn't a salary cap….right now the Pens are right against the ceiling, so if they wanna get Ilya, they must send Ryan Whitney and Jordan Staal at least the other way for salary concernes. And they don't wanna lose Whitney…yet. With Whitney (healthy), their defense is very good (not yet excellent). Without him, it's barely average.

  9. KingCanada says:

    Ill be the first to tell you that it will take much more then that to land Kovalchuk, here is my resoning…

    First of all the Hossa trade might not have had any huge players but it involved 4 assets for a top notch player who was only a rental.  Kovalchuk has this year plus next year at an affordable hit of 6.4.  That is huge value for arguably a better goal scorer then Hossa is (not so far this season anyway).

    So for a better contract and potentially better player you offer less the the Hossa deal?  No sir not possible!  Christensen (great shootout specialist), Armstrong (good grinder), their top pick from the previous draft in Esposito AND a first round pick only for a rental in Hossa.  Granted Staal is a great player but hes never scored more then 42 points per season despite getting PP time so i think most people tend to over value him just because of his rookie season.

    IMO it would take much more for Kovalchuk

    To Pittsburg:
    Kovalchuk

    To Atlanta:
    Staal
    Letang
    1st round pick
    and finally any young grinder or mid draft pick of your choice

    That is what it will take to land him!  Dont forget other teams want him too so you have to sweeten the pot my friend.

  10. KingCanada says:

    To Pittsburg:
    Kovalchuk

    To Atlanta:
    Staal
    Letang
    1st round pick
    any filler (mid round pick or mid level young player)

    Many teams will compete to get him so they will all try and sweeten the pot.  This might not even be enough, might be a better trade offer out there from another team.

  11. jayhabsjay2 says:

    This is alot closer. I think it wouldn't be enough though.
    It'll never happen anyway.

  12. Plekanec says:

     Thats much better than the guy who would trade Kovalchuck for Staal, Sydor and a 2nd round pick, what was that? But I don't think he would go to the Pens, Imagine if Kovachuck played with Ovachkin! Wow!

  13. Plekanec says:

     The Trashers need Defensemen and badly! How about.

    to Montreal=Kovalchuck  to Atlanta=Higgins, Mcdonagh, Maxwell,O'Byrne and a
    1st rounders

  14. pezzz says:

    I think that could work for the players, but the cap numbers aren't working. maybe in late February, but even then….

  15. Plekanec says:

     U Can't say I was bias on that one but the truth is Kovalchuck will never play for the Habs and I doubt he will join the Pens but are the Red-Wings interested,lol!

  16. pezzz says:

    no you're right you weren't biased on this one, I'm happy lol. Maybe I got you converted! 😛 who knows lol. Now we must work on Lafleur10! He's really far from it lol. Maybe the Red Wings could ship back Hossa to Atlanta for Kovalchuk :P.

    How about Kovalchuk and Enstrom (unlikely, I know), for Bouwmeester, Weiss, Welch and a 1rst round pick?

  17. pezzz says:

    that's considering Bouwmeester signs an extension with Atlanta of course. Otherwise, another 1rst round pick (in 2010) and a 2nd round pick in 09goes to Atlanta.

  18. pllt666 says:

    Something to propose!

    To Mtl= Kovalchuck,Enstrom

    To Atlanta=S.Kostitsyn,A.Kostitsyn,R.Obyrne and a 1st or 2nd round pick!

    that will also make some room for Max Pacioretty

    Tanguay-Koivu-Higgins
    Kovalchuck-Plecanek-Kovalev
    Pacioretty-Lang-latendresse
    Kostopulos-Lapierre-Laraque

    Komisarek-Markov
    Enstrom-Hamerlik
    Bouillon-Georges

  19. lafleur10 says:

    pezz just the other day whne you and i were jousting back and forth( on the return for kaberle! which if you it he's still better i suggest you go to hockey buzz.com under eric engels blog and you'll see what they say about him! i think you'll change your opinion on him after you read that stuff there) you were saying higgins isn't worth anything now plekanec mentions him in a package and you are singing a different tune aren't you contradicting yourself just alittle? becuase either he's good and you add him to apackage and he's terrible and you don't which is it? you can't have both it's one or the other! and just for the record here's what i think we could offer for kovalchuk! however like plekanec said and i agree with 100% kovalchuk will never play in montreal!

    higgins,macdonagh,halak,latendresse,dandeneault a 1st this year and a1st in 2010! i'd give this much up for this guy1 he's one of the top 10 forwards and the purest and most deadliest scorer in the league! and if the deal breaker was to take out a201 1st r.d pick and latendrese and insert pacioretty i'd do it1 i wouldn't trade paioretty,macdonagh for gaborik though as you stated on one of our ruomors under our site pezzz! he's got potential and lots of it but he's had alot of injuries and he's not worth giving up that much for! but indeed kovalchuk is!

  20. pezzz says:

    The big difference here is McDonough. On other posts, the rumours were saying Higgins, O'Byrne, Dandenault and a 1rst round pick. these weren't making any sense. Financially, and also just the players in the trade. The trade proposed by Plekanec still doesn't work with the $, but the addition of McDonough and Maxwell to the package makes it a lot more fair than the previous. That's why I think Plekanec proposed something good.

  21. lafleur10 says:

    but you still haven't answered my question in the first post i made pezz! about higgins please go back and read it and respond!you are skirting the issue here!

  22. lafleur10 says:

    and i didn't in that last package? what do you think of that? read it all and see what you think!

  23. KingCanada says:

    Ya I agree, especially after making that trade for Hossa, that affected Pittsburg depth and farm system as well. I dont believe they could survive another trade like that if it was to not work out.

  24. KingCanada says:

    That definatly WOULD be insane but blockbuster trades between divisonal rivals are few and far between lol.  Id love to see him traded to LA.  They have soooo much youth and depth and could afford to give away a good 4 young assets and not be phased.

    To LA:
    Ilya Kovalchuk

    To ATL:
    Patrick O'Sullivan
    Oscar Moller
    Thomas Hickey
    1st round pick

  25. KingCanada says:

    Send him out west to LA!

    To LA:
    Ilya Kovalchuk

    To ATL:
    Patrick O'Sullivan
    Oscar Moller
    Thomas Hickey
    1st round pick

  26. DaHabs21 says:

    OK Why would the Habs trade for Ilya? I know he is a tremendous player but he is going to command alot and i mean A LOT! of money this offseason do the Canadiens really wanna tie up i say possibly 8-10 mil on him? Plus why mess with this team right now? 8-1-1 I know it is early and such but i see great things from this team why trade Higgins, the Kostitsyn's or anything else for him right now? If you were to trade for him i know they will have cap from for him wit a bunch of expiring contracts this offseason with Koivu Komisarek Kovalev Tanguay and others but i would rather invest in what i already have. They have to resign Komisarek no doubt about it they Can Not let him go. I would also rather sign Tanguay and more than throw all my money to Ilya. Just my 2 cents

  27. DaHabs21 says:

    OK Why would the Habs trade for Ilya? I know he is a tremendous player but he is going to command alot and i mean A LOT! of money this offseason do the Canadiens really wanna tie up i say possibly 8-10 mil on him? Plus why mess with this team right now? 8-1-1 I know it is early and such but i see great things from this team why trade Higgins, the Kostitsyn’s or anything else for him right now? If you were to trade for him i know they will have cap from for him wit a bunch of expiring contracts this offseason with Koivu Komisarek Kovalev Tanguay and others but i would rather invest in what i already have. They have to resign Komisarek no doubt about it they Can Not let him go. I would also rather sign Tanguay and more than throw all my money to Ilya. Just my 2 cents

  28. mojo19 says:

    Actucally, Kovalchuck's not a UFA this summer. I don't know why you thought that.

    The big UFA's this summer are Gaborik, Zetterberg, Cammalleri, Havlatt, Sullivan*, Hossa, Gionta, Antropov, Comrie, The Sedin's, Franzen, the Niedermyer's, Bouwmeester, and in goal Nik Backstrom.

  29. physicalsap says:

    For those of you who do not know, Mark Madden is a controversial Pittsburgh radio analyst who has been canned for racist and offhand comments on the air. This is quite possibly the least valid “rumor” ever posted. The article about bringing in Kovalchuk is merely a matter of personal opinion, more of a “I think the Penguins should do this”

    Don’t get me wrong, Madden knows his stuff, but even if bringing in a top forward to play with Sid is in the future, why would it happen now when Staal’s value is down and they would pick up more of Kovalchuk’s contract (when we’re already going to be playoff bound at this pace without him)? If another Hossa-esque trade were to occur, it will be at the deadline. If Staal is part of that package, they will at least give him this year and time to pad his stats, most likely with maximum PP ice time (stats very poor thus far) so his stock would go up, much like with superstar 5.1 Million a year Ryan Malone (who appears useless without Malkin/Sykora). I doubt they will give up any more draft picks after the Hossa deal but most likely one of our offensive defenseman will go with Staal since the Pens have an abundance of these when Gonchar and Whitney return.

    Like somone said above, its the Beaver County Times people!

  30. redlight2424 says:

    hey lafleur are you out of your fu….. mind about who to give for kovalchuk stick to whatever your doing i'm glad your not gainey you know ***** all about hockey.that would be the most stupid trade in history of hockey.

  31. pottruff14 says:

    i dont know if i would give up a young talented player like stall and you would prolly have to give up a big name too. who says kovalchuck will even resign with the penguins i think they would do better without kolvachuck..

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