Pronger is the key if used in the right door…

With rumours heating up regarding Chris Pronger, I thought I would take some time to share my view on the situation. I read that Tomas Kaberle is furious that the Leafs would incorporate his name in trade rumours. Frankly, so am I. We have taken years to develop a player (Kaberle) that was drafted in the 8th round, 204th overall. How many players can the Leafs say they chose that late in the draft and are all-star caliber today. Not too many.

You can easily see why the Oilers are so interested in a guy like Kaberle. But at the same time, I feel that if we bring in Pronger and ship Kaberle off to the Oilers, then we are in the exact same boat. If we were to switch the deal and make it McCabe instead of Kaberle, then we have two all round defenceman on the top line. Granted it may cost a bit more, but in the long run it would be worth that extra cash. Maybe if we gave McCabe, Stajan and a high pick for Pronger. Or even McCabe, Stajan and cash. I think JF Jr needs to exhaust the ways of keeping Kaberle in silver, blue and white. Pronger is made out to be a savior and yes, I did see what he did in the playoffs, and yes, he is a fantastic player, but we have to remember that coming to a different team is hard and maybe Pronger won’t fit in at all? I firmly believe the Raycroft deal was perfect because we had extra youth and could afford to deal Rask. Although with Kaberle, we don’t have another young defenceman that can step up to the plate like Kaberle has year after year.

In closing I would just like to open the discussion. Do you think Kaberle is the right guy to give for Pronger or should we try a sign and trade with McCabe. He can be a defensive liability a lot of times and the team needs defensive strength more than anything. I look forward to hearing from everyone on this matter and we’ll see what happens in the not too distant future.


23 Responses to Pronger is the key if used in the right door…

  1. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    ou’re ideas are fantastic, but you’re missing some of the ploitics. McCabe’s wife doesn’t want him to play in toronto, because its too far away from they’re home in new york, edmonton is 10 times worse than toronto. also McCabe will be a free agent in 4 days, and he would not sign a contract extension, just to get shipped away. pronger requested a trade to a US team.

    There are just too many roadblocks for Pronger to come to toronto, and have the leafs be successful

  2. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    Watching Pronger and Kabby together would be phenomenal, but first McCabe needs to be under contract.

  3. Rufusy says:

    hahaha the prokab line would be nice, unlikly but nice

  4. FlyersfanKyle says:

    sorry loaf luvers but it just wont happen pronger will be with detroit or t.b.

  5. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    i agree that he wont be a leaf, but i think he’ll be a ranger. New York needs a no 1 d-man, and has lots of talent to offer. detroit has their man in lindstrom, and tampa is going to make sure they get a goalie before they spend 6.25 mil on a defencean (especia;lly when they want dan oyle to step up as their no 1 guy)

  6. phat_cat says:

    the only way Mccabe is gonna even sign a contract is if he gets a no trade clause… thats definatly not gonna work!

  7. woodsco85 says:

    How do u see a guy whos making 6 million next year end up on 2 teams who are gonna be running close to the cap

  8. FlyersfanKyle says:

    cuz they both have good players they wanna get rid of and they’ll dump salary in a pontential trade…der…

  9. The-President says:

    Why can’t McCabe just do the Leafs a favor, and sign with the Leafs, then the Leafs could trade him to the Islanders before his no trade clause kicks in, and Toronto gets value for him, and him and his wife get what they want. WHY NOT?

  10. scout says:

    or he could wait 3 days and sign withNYI anyway.

    Milbury is gone and even he is not that stupis

  11. Aetherial says:


    The idea of a sign and trade is ridiculous.

  12. Aetherial says:

    Two things would have to be true.

    1) The Leafs would have to offer McCabe more than he feels he can get elsewhere and I doubt that is the case right now.

    2) The Islanders would have to be “extremely” interested in McCabe. Which I also doubt is true. They may be very interested as a UFA… not so much in a trade situation.

    There are too many cheaper alternative FA defensemen out there.

  13. the_word says:

    Because the cap is going up by 5 million a year, and if the Rangers were interested in Chara, then Pronger would be a much better fit as he is playoff proven (unlike Chara) and at 6.25 per year, over four years, that getting a franchise player at cost.

  14. the_word says:

    Fair point, but McCabe will be the cheapest (at 5.5) of all impact defensemen on the market. McCabe is the cheaper alternative of number one defense on the market.

  15. Aetherial says:

    I suspect you my be right, but we don’t know that. We don’t know what McCabe could get out there. He may, in fact, be in the same price range as Jovanovski? I suspect that Redden is a little more expensive and Chara a little more also (and overpriced frankly).

    Jovo is worse than McCabe statistically, and Chara really had a downturn in the “new” NHL.

    My pick for a D-man would be Redden, even over Pronger. That is why I think Ottawa will re-sign him.

  16. sufferingleaf says:

    Typical Leaf fan overating our players.

    Kabrle is far from an overall defenceman. He’s terrible behind his blueline and way too soft.I would trade Pronger for Kabrle in a heartbeat he’s what we haven’t has since Salming. He’s tough great defensivley and has offensive talent. If they can make deal go for it!!!!!!

  17. Toonces99 says:

    I agree…The only difference with JOVO is that he has ability to be better than McCabe..the problem with him over the years is that he has been hurt…l really think that if he stays healthy he can be a real impact d-man.

  18. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    If Kaberle wasn’t a two way defenceman, then the McCabe Kabby pairing would have let in tonnes of goals, but kaberles smart skillful plays in his own end (most of which go unnoticed) made that pairing very successful.


    Kabby is paid less

    Kabby has much better stats

    Kabby is just entering his prime

    Kabby wants to play in Toronto (thus the reason he signed a 5 year deal with a no trade claus)

    Everyone thinks Prongeris this knight in shining armor who will solve their cup woes, its not happening. kaberl was built and drafted by the leafs, it would be a shame to trade away such a fine product

  19. the_word says:

    Its not about overating talent, its about whats best for the Leafs. Pronger is unquestionably a better defensemen than Kaberele, he is proven where as Kaberele has had one all star year. But Kaberele’s contract, age and chemistry with McCabe make he more valuable to the Leafs than Pronger.

    Trading Kaberele for Pronger would be typical of the Leafs, trading away young talent in an attempt of a quick fix. The Leafs aren’t a contender and won’t be for a couple of years, they should avoid Pronger.

  20. Aetherial says:

    and that is a huge issue! McCabe has been injured a lot less often.

    Not that I want McCabe either … I don’t want ANY 5+ million Dman. Give me a couple guys a 3 million and bring in some youngsters.

  21. sufferingleaf says:

    Kabby and Mcabe did let in lots of goals.How many times did they look terrible behind there own line.Did you not see the playoffs two years ago Kaberle giving up the puck us losing.

    Also which stats are better Kabb had 58 Pronger 56 Kabb a -1 Pronger + 2 and the Leafs were a much better offensive team. If Kabb and MCcabe were so great defensively why were both negative. Also whio cares how late we drafted him if we can get better we have to!!!!

  22. sufferingleaf says:

    Your right they shoudn’t even sign McCabe he’s not worth the money they are offering who cares about chemistry if they can’t play good defence. McCabe wil not even have such a great season next year as the other teams know how to play him. They should trade for Pronger and than sign two decent defencmen like Mcee and some others that are avilable

  23. Aetherial says:

    With or without Kaberle in the deal… they will have to pay too much for Pronger.

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