Quick rumors: Sundin to waive NTC, Detroit to make huge splash

Plus trade talk involving Ottawa, Colorado, Anaheim, NJ, Chicago, NYI

Mats Sundin may be thinking twice about his refusal to waive his no trade clause with the Maple Leafs, and the Detroit Red Wings might be the team that gives him incentive to do so.Josh Kyrzakos of the Bleacher reports that Sundin may have agreed to consider waiving his no trade clause. Once discussions are completed and the dust has settled, Sundin will have picked his destination to be on a playoff bound team.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/9373-NHL-Fantasy_Hockey-NHL_Fantasy_Files_Week_20-130208

Marty York of Metro News Toronto reports that the Detroit Red Wings are very hot for Sundin. And Based on his discussion with NHL insiders, York believes that Sundin will waive his no-trade clause with the Leafs and agree to join the Wings.

It is believed that Detroit will likely make the largest splash of all the NHL teams, with $5 million US remaining in their salary-cap room.

York also believes that Detroit may inquire about Jaromir Jagr, Marian Hossa, Vaclav Prospal or Olli Jokinen.

http://www.metronews.ca/column.aspx?id=106954

Other quick rumors

Speaking of Detroit, they probably covet free agent Peter Forsberg, but York says that he’ll likely sign with the Philadelphia Flyers.

The ottawa Senators still hope to land veteran D Rob Blake, in the aftermath of Monday’s key acquisitions of Cory Stillman and Mike Commodore from the Carolina Hurricanes.

However, Colorado and Anaheim have equally strong interest in Blake.

New Jersey hopes to bolster their lineup by obtaining D Brian Campbell from Buffalo, F Ladislav Nagy from the Kings and F Robert Lang from the Chicago Blackhawks.

The New York Islanders are dangling Mike Comrie and Miroslav Satan as trade bait.

http://www.metronews.ca/column.aspx?id=106954


37 Responses to Quick rumors: Sundin to waive NTC, Detroit to make huge splash

  1. Wings19 says:

    I dont think the Red Wings will make a big splash at the deadline, like they did last year to get Todd Bertuzzi. They traded away a very very good prospect in Shawn Matthias to land Bert, who helped the Wings in their cup run but was not worth the trade. I think this year the Red Wings will acquire depth players instead of going big at the trade deadline. If they pursue a big name player i suspect it will be Rob Blake of the Kings.

  2. orangenblack says:

    Sundin won't waive his ntc and forsberg already told detroit no… along with many other teams.. also I dont think he is coming back

  3. BruMagnus says:

    I can already see it.

    Sundin Captains Team Sweden to a Gold Medal, with Lidstrom getting the Gold Medal winning goal.

    Lidstrom Captains the Detroit Wings to the Cup, with Sundin getting the Cup clinching winning goal.

  4. DJTOKid says:

    How dare you compare Bertuzzi to Sundin!!! You were kidding right? Detriot would do what ever they have they have to, to aquire a player like Sundin. Do they NEED him, no. Would they aquire him if they had the chance, YES.

  5. Kramer says:

    Detroit is gonna target Belak I think.  I just might put that in my hockey movie.

  6. KingCanada says:

    Sweet, i had a feeling hed want to go to Detroit. Detroit is in the western conference and isnt a rival of Toronto yet it is only about 3-4 hours down the 401.

    Mats Sundin would only waive to go to a team were he is comfterbal to go to and has a good shot at winning the cup, hell why not the top team of the opposite conference. Not to mention im sure he knows already a bunch of players who played on team Sweden like Lidstrom, Holmstrom, Zetterberg. Other swedish players on that roster include Samuelson, Lilja, Franzen and Kronwall.

    My assumption is that Mats fetches 2 top picks like a 1st and a 2nd and one of their top prospects, too bad they dont still have Matthias, woulda loved to have him go to the Leafs.

  7. ChyldProdigy says:

    I have long heard that Detroit was interested in Antropov, even when he wasn't playing well the last few years.  Do you think there is any chance of them taking a shot at him?  That would be more of a depth move than a rental, seems like it would be more their style after losing Matthias last year.
    They are a little weak at center, with Filpulla as their 2nd line C, Antro or Sundin would do a good job of shoring that up and tack on some goals.

  8. ChyldProdigy says:

    Immediately after I read your post I picked up Belak in my hockey pool.  I think if Detroit snags him he just MIGHT hit that 50 goal mark this season.

  9. Wings19 says:

    Exactly so if the Panthers got what they did for Bertuzzi, what do you think the Red Wings would have to give up to get Sundin? If Detroit has to trade away their future to get Sundin then no they wont.

  10. Kramer says:

    Good move!  I mean Belak's never given any good wingers to play with.  All the good Leaf players get to play with Sundin.  Poor Belak only gets to play with lackeys in the 4th line. No fair.

  11. wingerxxx says:

    THe Bertuzzi trade was a colossal blunder by Detroit.  I can't see them repeating the same mistake.  Sundin is twice the player Bertuzzi is.  Blake would help them, but he's definitely not a necessary piece to the puzzle.

  12. dcz28 says:

    Wings need a top 4 defenseman way way more then they need a forward especially a centre.

    Way too early to say the Bertuzzi trade was a colossal blunder. Matthias wasn't even close to a top prospect for the Wings when he was dealt to Florida and he has yet to prove he can be a role player in the NHL let alone an impact player.

  13. ovechkin8 says:

    DWAYNE ROLOSON HAS BEEN TRADED TO THE OTTAWA SENETORS FOR RAY EMERY!!!!

  14. dcz28 says:

    I would rather the Wings go after a winger then Sundin unless he doesn't cost much. Wings are deep at centre (unlike the guy who posted before thinks). I would rather have Jagr then Sundin if they cost the same to aquire or a guy like Satan who would provide scoring and cost less. Both Datsyuk and Zetterberg would rather play centre…then you add Draper, Filppula, Franzen, Hudler who are all natural centres and you see they have plenty of guys that can play up the middle. A top 6 winger would also allow the Wings to split up Zetterberg and Datsyuk to produce 2 good scoring lines.

    The top priority though for the Wings is a top 4 defenseman so until they get that i don't really want any forwards.

    Like someone already said Forsberg declined the Wings offer a while ago and most Wings fans didn't want him anyways.

  15. percussio says:

    Ken Holland can spend till he's blue in the face but without Stevie Y there isnt a cup going to Hockey Town.

    Call it idle superstition but when's the last time a team won the stanley cup without a canadian captain ?

    Dallas' D Hatcher in 1999 who was American. Thats it, in the entire history of the stanley cup, or at least a good 50 years back if I remember correctly. Say what you will but the stats dont lie.

  16. dcz28 says:

    How many Euro captains were there 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 years ago compared to Canadians or even Americans?

    You might have a point if Euro were common place in the league before the 90's but it wasn't the case and now more and more Euros play more of a Canadian game and have a better chance since NOW they HAVE Euro captains in the NHL.

    Typical Don Cherry garbage statement. A Lot more teams didn't win the cup with a Canadian captain then teams with Euro captains. Pull out the stats on that and let's see the difference in stats there too.

  17. Habs_pm says:

    Sundin in Detroit would be great for Wins for the simple reason that they need that hunger to win another cup. Since Stevey Y left the lack that…

  18. leafy says:

    I felt Detroit should have won it last year.  They played better than Anaheim except for the final game, and the Ducks were very fortunate to win pivotal Game 5 in Detroit.  The difference in the series was Giguere vs the 42-year old Hasek.

  19. leafy says:

    I think Sundin's performance in Saturday's game against Detroit really ignited these latest rumors.  You better believe that Ken Holland was fantasizing Sundin in a Red Wings uniform.

  20. leafy says:

    Yeah landing Belak would definitely put the Wings over the top.

  21. dcz28 says:

    Probably turned into a nightmare when Holland remembered just how much the Leafs want for renting Sundin and then the fantasy died.

  22. dcz28 says:

    F***ing cheap Koharski call on Datsyuk at the end of game 5 with the Wings leading. Not the 1st time that a-hole Koharski has screwed the Wings in the playoffs. Him and Magough (sp?) should be kicked out of the league…it would be an improvement for the league right there.

  23. leafy says:

    Haha!  That's similar to Kerry Fraser against the Leafs.  That guy kills us every time.  The most memorable was in 1993, Game 6, semi-finals against L.A.  Very similar to what happened to Detroit with Koharski last year.

    I still remember Jim Schoenfeld calling Koharski a "fat pig" in the 1988 conference finals (New Jersey vs. Boston).  Classic!

  24. Kramer says:

    Actually that's pretty good.  Better than what I come up with when I'm under the influence.

  25. polastem says:

    I doubt he's going to end up in Detroit. There's something to do with tax issues because he's legally a Canadian citizen, and he wants to remain in Canada – Vancouver, or Calgary – don't bet on him being dealt to Ottawa. His girlfriend also lives in Toronto, so one way or another, he'll be back next season, whether playing or in the organization. So if I had to put money on it, I'd see him get dealt to Vancouver, but most likely Calgary, as Calgary is reported on not asking for more than just Sundin.

  26. BruMagnus says:

    tax issues my ass!

  27. bringbacktocchet08 says:

    NO WAY does lombardi send blake to the ducks to help them win another cup. no f’in way. somebody take nagy though please.

  28. KingCanada says:

    For sure bro, im fantasizing about it too haha but DAMN would Sundin look weird in a RED uniform, would take some getting used to..

  29. Wings19 says:

    Well they do need a top 4 defensemen so Lilja doesnt have to fill in that roll. I think they're pretty good for scoring but i dont think somebody like Sergei Fedorov wouldn't hurt either. Plus, he wouldn't cost as much as a Mats Sundin would.

  30. Armstrong67 says:

    Sundin never said he wouldn't waive the no trade clause, he said he wants to remain a Maple Leaf. 

    If Sundin does go, I agree, he probably won't come back in July.  His loyal ways may be tarnished if the Leafs do in fact move him.  I'd be upset…

  31. Armstrong67 says:

    You don't make much sense.  I agree with percussio, get a Canadian captain.  Play the odds. 

    Why would you want to wait to see if a Euro can Captain a team to a cup?  It will probably come, but not this year, probably not next either!  Haven't Leafs fans been waiting long enough?

    Cherry knows more about hockey than you will ever no about your own penis.  So give it a rest …Sundin's gotta go!

  32. Armstrong67 says:

    One more thing to support.  If 100% of NHL Euro captians have not been able to win a cup and 99% of cup winning captains are Canadian, no other stat matters, does it?

  33. NHLSlayer says:

    I made a posting about two-three weeks ago about this very topic.

    Sundin will not wind up in Detroit, for two very big reasons, some of those reasons have been summarized again in this post.

    First of all, the Maple Leafs asking price for Sundin will be way too high.  When you look at what Detroit would have to give up to get a guy like Sundin, it would be a tough sell to have Kenny Holland pull the trigger on that deal.

    Secondly, Detroit DOESN'T NEED Sundin.  SURE, they would love to be able to add him into their lineup, but they have to be considered one of the favorites to win the cup already this year.  If they look to make an addition at the deadline, it won't be for a top line bonafide player, but more likely a second-line scorer, someone else to take the pressure off of the big Datsyuk/Zetterberg line.  These kind of players are available for much less than what the Leafs can get for Sundin.  Even if you say Sundin's value is ONLY as good as Forsberg's was last year, and I personally think that is a stretch, as Sundin is still healthy as opposed to Forsberg's questionable body, then you would be looking at SIMILAR return for Sundin.  That excludes Detroit right there.

    There are teams in the NHL, specifically in the west, that will pay more for Sundin, as those Western teams still feel that they need to really add an impact player to hope to challenge Detroit for the conference.  It won't take much for a team like Anaheim, San Jose, or even Dallas to look to add Sundin as a rental, and give up a major package to make sure that Detroit doesn't get him.

    Cliff Fletcher is a smart man, the best thing that can happen for him is to consistently hear these rumors that Sundin may be going to Detroit, as it makes every team in the west look to up their bid.

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