Rangers Make Final Offer to The Moose

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With the signing period for unrestricted free agents beginning Monday, there is little question that Mark Messier, the Rangers’ 41-year-old captain, will be back for a 24th NHL season, several people close to Messier confirmed to The New York Times during the last week.

All that needs to be done is for Glen Sather, the Rangers’ president and general manager, and the Messier family to agree on what could be the final one-year contract of Messier’s career before the Rangers begin training camp Sept. 13. Messier is represented by his father, Doug.

Messier, who will be 42 on Jan. 18, appeared in 41 of the Rangers’ 82 games last season — the fewest of his career. He missed most of the second half of the season, including the final 23 games, with an injury to his left shoulder that needed surgery. He finished with seven goals and 16 assists.

With 1,804 career points, Messier needs 47 points to overtake Gordie Howe (1,850) for second place behind Wayne Gretzky’s 2,857.

29 Responses to Rangers Make Final Offer to The Moose

  1. Hockeyman93 says:

    Not a big headliner. He’s not going to hit 47 points, especially if he’s playing on the 3rd or 4th line. He would be better to retire. They could play Nedved on the 2nd line, or 3rd if they signed a center this summer.

  2. habs_88_4life says:

    He will never be an effictive player in the NHL again. Rangers would have better money spent on Jamie Lundmark.

  3. mikster says:

    If the Rangers can be successfull on the PP, he might make it. Rangers need a real captain with an attitude….Leetch is not a good captain.

    If he can hussle as he did this past season, he’ll be ok on the team.

  4. big_booty says:

    Why is that both Glen Sather and Mark Messier insist on clinging to the past?

    Messier’s endurance and impact on the ice has been waning in recent years. He would be better serving his team if he would call it quits. He is obviously going to take away precious ice time from a young player like Jamie Lundmark, who needs to continue his development by getting on the ice at the NHL level.

    Say what you want about age, but it has affected Messier adversely. Chris Chelios and Ron Francis are also on the other side of 40, but at least they were still effective for the duration of an entire season and the playoffs.

    It’s time for Mess to go, for the Rangers’ sake and his own.

  5. mikster says:

    Messier can still do two things for sure. One, he hussles back pretty quickly which surprised people and two he is the only captain on the squad. Leetch is not a good captain, he might be that nice and caring captain but not the type to really lead a team.

    Lundmark might play in the AHL against next season and might be called up a few times. I’d rather see him ready for NHL action rather than rushed (i.e. Malhotra). Also, Lundmark can play on the wing (i think RW) and could play well with Messier.

    Though i do agree that he totally lost his scoring touch and that his passing abilities are not as good as they used to be, but he could be useful on the PP.

  6. Freezer says:

    I have to believe that Messier knows that he’s no longer effective as a player. What makes him want to continue playing? Is it the money? He should be all set financially. It can’t be due to lack of accomplishments. He’s already won 5 Stanley Cups (4 with Edmonton and 1 with NYR). I think he won the Conn Smythe, etc.. He’s had a tremendous career and has nothing more to prove. Does he really believe that the Rangers are going to win the Cup next year and he wants ring #6? They missed the playoffs last year!!! Why is he still playing? Why are the Rangers allowing him to play? Do the Rangers figure they owe Messier something from that Cup that they won in 1993 (I think it was 1993)? Anyway, I don’t get it.

  7. Stanajax says:

    94, 93 was Habs’ 24th Cup……The last till next year 😉

  8. Flyers_01 says:

    I think both Sather and Messier are in denial. Messier should be an assistant coach instead of a player this year.

  9. NYR88Express says:

    mikster…i agree with you that messier is a great captain and 1 million times better than Leetch, but we DO have another captain on the team…

    Lindros would be a great captain…he is the guy they will have to turn to in the locker room and he has the credentials for it…hes big, strong, a good-player, and the other players can respect that and model themselves after him

  10. mcpuff says:

    I agree. I love Mess but enough is enough.

    Lindros would be a great captain.

  11. titans says:

    The ONLY purpose Messier serves any more is as a leader. And on a team with such little cohesiveness as the Rangers, an impactfull leader is very necessary. Especially with new rookie coaches. Even a punk @$$ like Bure has to respect the greatest leader in team sports history.

  12. titans says:

    Yea how’d that work out for the Flyers??? Incase you forgot I’ll remind ya…IT SUCKED!! Lindros was never happy as captain, he never wanted the “C” and was releaved when he came to the Strangers and didn’t have to be any more. He was always uncomfortable as Captain and nothing would change in New York.

  13. titans says:

    Two big If’s.

  14. mikster says:

    Well, the if on the hussle is minor because he has good leg strength and he did really well hussling back.

    The best thing he can do is lead the team. He can make young players feel comfortbale and Lundmark would be great on his wing.

    The PP i am guessing could be good. Trottier mastered the Avs PP and he has Lindros, Leetch,Poti, Bure, Malakhov, Dvorak, Nedved, and whoever the Rangers get, to use. I expect the Rangers PP to be ranked 15th with Trottier.

  15. mikster says:

    Well, put yourslef in Messier skates. Look back at your career. How would you like to end it?

    1) Win a Cup

    -a- highly unlikely

    2) Put up more points to be closer to or beat Howe’s record.

    3) Finish your career by skating around MSG, waving your hand and kiss your fans good bye

    -a- a dream come true.

    Also, the Rangers need the leadership of Messier.

  16. mikster says:

    If you see Lindros wear a C on his Rangers jersey, then you will see Leetch in a different jersey. This is where i miss Graves.

  17. mikster says:

    I think Mess can play one more season. Larionov wants to play another season, people should talk about that guy.

    Messier is a legend and he deserves to end his career by skating around the Garden. I say the season after this one Green will be kicked and Messier will be welcomed.

  18. LordPerth says:

    good copy of the TIMES …

  19. Flyers_01 says:

    He ended last year as a Ranger .. no need to see it again . Unless he has a comeback year, he’s going to look like just another athlete who couldn’t tell it was time to quit. As much as I don’t like Hasek .. he did the smart thing, went out a winner. Messier may have been a winner his entire career but he may go out as a loser.

  20. NYR88Express says:

    finally a person who agrees..lindros is the best fit for NYR captain

  21. RichterFan says:

    I agree, he deserves a Gretzky type ending. Would be better with the cup in his hands though. But we will see

  22. Freezer says:

    But how much does Messier’s leadership mean if the Rangers couldn’t make the playoffs? I’m not blaming it all on Messier, but did he make a difference? If so, how?

  23. RichterFan says:

    Too bad Goalies can’t be captains because everyone would agree that Mike Richter would be it. No one carries them better than him.

  24. Freezer says:

    Larionov produced on the ice in the Stanley Cup Finals. Remeber triple OT against Carolina. Guess who scored the winner? Larionov was one of Detroit’s big gun in the Finals.

    It’s OK to want to ride off into the sunset with a Stanley Cup in your hands, put you have to pull your own weight. Messier isn’t doing that and it’s costing the Rangers. It’s like that Kenny Rodgers song – You have to know when to hold em, know when to fold em…. Could we get Kenny to call Mess?

  25. Freezer says:

    It would be easier to respect the Great Leader if the Great Leader could still play hockey.

  26. mikster says:

    Well, you can’t blame Mess, Sather, or Low that much in the first season. I mean, for crying out loud look at that team and it is a laugh.

    Messier was hurt for half the season and he was actually needed. When Lindros and Messier and then Johansson went down with injuries…thatis when the Rangers went downhill.

    We need his leadership for the new coaching staff, the new player(s) the Rangers will sign, and for the youngsters.

  27. mikster says:

    Believe me, if you were Mess and you looked back at your career, you’d want to finish your career by skating around the Garden and have your name above Gordie Howe, or your career numbers just a few away from Howe.

    Messier will go out as a winner. He proved himself as the best captain ever.

  28. Malurous says:

    Everyone, even a guy name RichterFan =P

    And you can’t be sure he’d be there next year to carry a ‘C’ if it was possible…

  29. Malurous says:

    Francis is 39, born 3/1/63.

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