Report: Leafs shopping D Luke Schenn

The Toronto Maple Leafs are rumoured to be shopping defenceman Luke Schenn to the Edmonton Oilers as part of a deal where both teams would swap 1st-round draft picks in this month’s NHL Draft, according to Elliotte Friedman of CBC Sports.

The trade would allow the Maple Leafs to move up and select consensus first overall selection Nail Yakupov, a 5′ 11” right wing from the Sarnia Sting.   In 79 games this season, Schenn matched a career high with 22 points and posted a plus-minus rating of -6. He will entering the second season of a five-year contract worth $18 million. Meanwhile, Yakupov tallied 270 points in 107 games over the past 2 seasons in the OHL.

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67 Responses to Report: Leafs shopping D Luke Schenn

  1. nordiques100 says:

    Yakubov makes sense…..if they then turn Kessel into the coveted centre they need.

    Yakubov is potentially a younger Kessel.

    Having both guns would be pretty cool, but like how they had Tucker and Blake up front, with O-men like Kaberle, McCabe and Kubina on D, there’s too much of the same thing, and not enough of a well rounded, balanced team, with multiple different weapons able to play any kind of game.

    Thats how the most successful teams are able to do it.

    The Leafs already have too many similar defenceman and are already on the smallish side up front as is.

    I would love to get Yaks, but some other move, or moves would be needed as follow up.

    There would have to be some method to this madness. Not just get Yaks and that’s that. And doesn’t Yak seem more a Wilson kind of player than Carlyle?

  2. 93killer93 says:

    As good as Yakupov is, I really want the Leafs to get Galchenyuk. I wonder if the Leafs got a pick in the 6-10 range if they could move up and draft both. Something along the lines of…

    Tor
    Kulimen, 34th, Ryan
    Wsh
    11th, 76th

    Tor
    11th, Grabovski, Lombardi
    Ana
    6th, 35th, Schultz (Rights)

    Tor
    6th, MacArthur, 35th, Leivo
    Clb
    2nd

    Tor
    5th, Franson, Gunnarsson, Holzer, 76th
    Edm
    1st

    Tor 1st-Yakupov
    Tor 2nd-Galchenyuk
    Mon 3rd-Grigorenko
    NyI 4th-Murray
    Edm 5th-Reinhart/Dumba
    Clb 6th-Forsberg

    Edmonton has the assets to flip picks with Montreal if they’re dead set on Murray.

    Obviously it’s a pipe dream. As for the rumored trade with Edmonton I would much rather give up 2 or 3 extra pieces and keep Schenn.

    • TimTheBone says:

      Haha… I love the long meticulous trade scenario!!

      The only real problem I see is I don’t understand how that’s a deal anahiem pulls the trigger on… They take on like 9mill in cap/year and where’s the motivation or compensation for them to take on lombardis awful contract… Grabovski is fine whatever but lombardi?… And they move down in the draft… By giving up shultz (who won’t sign in anahiem anyway)… The 6th and the 35th???… Doesn’t seem like a great deal for them…. That’s my opinion

      • 93killer93 says:

        Ya, all the rumors are driving me crazy, I wish the draft would just happen so I wouldn’t have to hear about who’s taking who and who’s moving up.

        My thought was it adds depth to the top 9 for Anaheim. They’re probably the only team in the top 10 that isn’t really rebuilding. They have significant pieces in place and really only lack depth. Lombardi and Grabovski fit into their top 9 and are pretty decent two way players. Lombardi comes off the books at the end of the year so it’s not really affecting their chances of resigning anyone.

        Ryan-Getzlaf-Perry
        Grabovski-Koivu-Selanne
        Hagman-Cogliano-Lombardi

    • blaze says:

      My god prospects get overhyped. Now I’m not picking on you because I like Gally too. Right off the bat he doesn’t make the bigs next year. Than what if he becomes the next Steen, good yet unspectacular.

      Is that worth any team giving up a quarter of their team for? Particularly Toronto who would be scrapping any shot at the playoffs before the season even began.

      • LN91 says:

        I disagree. Completely.

        You trade some assets when your deep (which Toronto is) to acquire a player you think will help your team…Now or in the future.

        Gally has that talent and most likely that upised…Unfortunately, as solid of prospects they are…Schenn, Kadri, and Colborne will NOT change this franchise. Gally can.

        • blaze says:

          That doesn’t mean I don’t think you move depth for quality. It’s exactly what I hope for. But to move a ton and essentially kill a shot at the playoffs for a guy who maybe might become elite someday?

          Drafting is not an exact science, these guys are nobody until they are somebody.

          • reinjosh says:

            Quality over quantity is good but I agree completely. It’s better not to tie yourself to one blue chip player. I’d rather just keep Colborne and Kadri and draft a Forsberg/Grigorenko/Galchenyuk. Than you have three high potential guys over having just one or two. I love Gally but he’s not worth giving all that up.

    • Steven_Leafs0 says:

      Here is what you proposed in a nutshell:

      5th overall, Kulemin, Grabovski, Macarthur, Franson, Gunnarsson, Holzer, Lombardi, Ryan, 34th, Levio

      for:

      1st overall, 2nd overall

      ouch, that is likely another 3 years of rebuilding. 😛

      • TimTheBone says:

        Whoa whoa whoa whoa!!!!… Hold your horses!……..

        You forgot the 74th overall pick and shultzs rights……

        Makes things waaaaay better …

        I like it!… Get er dine burke !!

      • 93killer93 says:

        I did say it was a pipe dream, it was just a response to the article. But as for those players for the most part they can easily be replaced through free agency.

        • kessel_leafs81 says:

          i actually love the trade scenario. Next season we will have a pretty awful team. and If he traded away our second line for draft picks. I would send them into the minors for one season even if yakupov is ready. Sign shultz. And DO NOTHING for the goalie situation this year, if it works it works if not then who cares. I like what you did because itd be like one step back, 5 steps forward. Granted i know prospects arent a for sure thing but when has top 2 picks one year and another the year after been a bust ? we’d probably end up in last overal and draft mckinnon. Then in two years..

          Lupul – Mckinnon – Kessel
          Yakupov – galchenyuk – kadri
          frattin – colborne – Ashton
          Rosehill – Steckel – brown

          Phaneuf – schenn

          Gardiner – Schultz
          Liles- blacker

          looks good to me ?

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      Ok, ridiculous trade scenario, how about Schenn, Kadri, Grabovski & Frason to the Oil for 1st overall and Horcroff?

      Reset the rebuild with Yakupov and one of Galchenyuk/Grigorenko/Forsberg down the middle with Horc is the three spot?

  3. TimTheBone says:

    Does anyone notice an article missing ?… I had a post about a tambellini not being desperate and such… Talking about making a trade with Toronto for schenn with omark…. Which article was that??… Anyone???

    • blaze says:

      Trade Schenn for Omark +? I really hope you didn’t suggest that.

      • TimTheBone says:

        Clearly not… Why would I do that…. Ive been around here long enough for you to give me more credit than that…..

        I suggested hemsky with omark for schenn and lombardi…… But It wasnt a hard deal I was suggesting… Just a start to one… I said they could be the start of negotiations… Fine details to worked out….

        Has this article just disappeared or what?!

  4. Gambo says:

    Don’t trade Schenn, give him one more year under Carlyle. He’s only 22 years old ffs.

    • blaze says:

      Finally someone who’s not anti-Schenn

    • TimTheBone says:

      Why not trade him….

      Phaneuf > schenn
      Gardiner > schenn
      Gunner > schenn
      Liles > schenn

      I’m not saying schenn sucks but you got a good top 4 right there… Then you got franson blacker holzer on their ways up…. And let’s not forget big Mike who isn’t going no where…

      You may as well trade the guy while he’s worth a good return and start getting that much needed depth up front

      • TimTheBone says:

        Also what happens if shultz does sign in Toronto….. Seems like schenn is being pushed out anyway

        • blaze says:

          Only one of those guys is a defensive defenseman who actually plays physical. Schenn lead the league in hits and blocked shots for defensemen last year at the age of 22. To write him off this early is crazy.

          The only defenseman that can fill Schenns role is Komisarek. Expect a strong bounce back year. After Phaneuf and Gardiner, Schenn is the most untouchable.

          • TimTheBone says:

            Like I said I’m not saying he sucks…. Not writing him off….

            Ok you’re the leaf fan… You like schenn….

            Assuming phaneuf gadiner are 1 and 2….
            Schenn is 3 according to you… Liles and big Mike aren’t going anywhere….. And let’s assume shultz signs…. There’s six right there….

            Gunner is relagated to the 6th/7th with big Mike….. And franson holzer blacker have no room… For the forseeable future….

            • TimTheBone says:

              Sorry forgot my last line…..

              So who becomes the trade pieces

            • blaze says:

              Gunnarson and Franson are trade bait, Schenn is only included if it means A true star player is coming back. Id like to keep Liles for his veteran savvy but he is tradable as well.

              If Komo can’t make it then do be it. A D core that has Gunnarson, Liles, Gardiner, Shultz(hypo), and even Franson would be very soft. Offensively talented for sure but who would ever clear the net? Keep in mind this is also a Carlyle team now.

          • reinjosh says:

            This is my thoughts exactly. I see reasons why we might trade him but I can’t help but think it would be a gigantic mistake. We don’t have anyone like him on the team except for Komi and he hasn’t done anything. I’m much more willing to bet on Schenn than Komisarek.

      • leafs_wallace93 says:

        Lol, Liles is garbage.

        • blaze says:

          The word is back. And you don’t mean that. Pre concussion Liles was the best Leafs dman. His offensive play was obvious but his smart and surprisingly chippy play in the D zone was very effective.

          • Gambo says:

            Yeah, I expect that we will see the pre concussed Liles next season, not the Liles we saw post concussion. He was on fire at the start, plus he’s one of the better leaders on the team.

            I’d be content to see the leafs back end to be:

            Gunnarsson – Phaneuf
            Liles – Schenn
            Gardiner – Schultz
            Holzer

            • JoelLeafs says:

              I’d love to see Liles come back to form and be traded near the deadline for some offense. D-men are always overvalued at the deadline, and it opens up room for some younger D, gives us potentially soem offense or assets, and gets rid of Liles before he gets too old. Not that I don’t like Liles or his style of play, but going forward this young team needs to learn to play together and I don’t see Liles fitting into the 3-5 year plan.

      • Gambo says:

        Without a good goalie, the leafs can’t have all offensive d men.

        I don’t think Schenn had the greatest season last year but he is still young, hasn’t come close to reaching his potential and is a needed player if the leafs ever want to go far in the playoffs. I just know that it will be a huge mistake if they trade him.

  5. glotz_99 says:

    If the leafs get Schultz, which I hope they do, I see komisarek being the odd man out, defintly before schenn. I’m not sure any team will take on his contract without unloading another bad contract, but they could always bury him to the Marlies, ala Jeff finger and save themselves 9 mil in cap space over the next 2 years

  6. leafs_wallace93 says:

    I think is section of Leaf Nation tends tos over analyze things and my first reaction is that Galchenyuk will be the steal of this draft and Schenn’s short comings are greatly exaggerated but this should be a no brainer, if Nail has the chance to be a franchise forward you have to bite the bullet. No more being cute and savvy Burke has to produce a center this summer.

  7. 93killer93 says:

    On the Crosby front, Elliot Freidman said that 9 years 90mil could be the term necessary to finalize the deal. Pretty big commitment when you consider Malkin will likely ask for something similar. The more news about Crosby comes out the more is seems like Staal will have to be traded. Letang and Malkin will both need raises when their contract is up in 2 years.

  8. Gambo says:

    I know this isn’t surprising to anyone but apperently almost everyone on Montreal hates eachother. I know Josh Gorges’ cousins and Uncle; apperently he told them that the reason they had such a bad season was because no one got along in the dressing room. This has me thinking that we will see lots of trades by Montreal this summer.

    • TimTheBone says:

      As a habs fan I say good…..

      We need to build around the strong young core….

      Pacioretty… Subban… Price…. Gorges… Desharnais… Eller….

      Build around these guys!!

      Bourque I can see being a cancer…. Plekanec is out… Gionta is out… Kaberle diaz markov…… All need to be purged…

      Cole is cool… I like him

    • mojo19 says:

      Maybe them not getting along was perpetuated by all the losing. Any losing team I ever played on had dressing room issues, but which came first, the chicken or the egg?

  9. mojo19 says:

    I would like to see us make a move for Yakupov. Never hurts to have some legit scorers, and this kid could become a steady 30-40 goal man.

    Would I like to see us draft a Galchenyuk, or a Geigorenko? Of course, lanky centres are great building blocks, but I don’t think we should draft based on needs. If we can get the most talented guy then do what u hafta do, regardless of position. Having said that, I would be a bit disappointed if we draft a dman

    • ZillyHoo says:

      But what if we get Murray? That toughens up our D core a bit. and under Carlyle we’ll have Schenn, Murray, Phaneuf, Gardiner, Franson, Gunners, Liles , Holzer. And if we manage to sign Schultz? Well, I think he wouldn’t want to come here if we draft Murray but still, the thought is…. delicious.

      I think we get Forsberg. Or rather, I hope we do.

      • reinjosh says:

        Murray isn’t a hitter or considered a tough dman. Unless your talking about tightening it up? At this point i’d rather move back if we have a shot at Murray. He’s NHL ready but I think there are better long term options.

  10. nordiques100 says:

    Brian Burke needs to just shut up, stop whining and complaining that people are talking about his players and actually use his energy on you know, building a hockey team?

    I am sick of him completely. He whines like a bitch. I think he needs to go back to the states, maybe regain and understanding of free speech.

    Who gives a bleep if someone said Schenn was rumored. Just let it go. If Luke Schenn is too weak and sensitive to deal with that and is crumbling under being named in a rumor, he definitely needs to go then. I wouldnt want him on my team if he is that weak in character. Please. give these adults some credit and start treating them like adults.

    they are grown men, they can take it. Just forget about that stuff in the news.

    Honestly he lets it effect the players by mentioning it in the first place and making a big deal out of stuff. Just let it go.

    I know there will be loyal defenders to Burke who will slag me, but cmon, why bother talking about it and making a big deal out of it? Just go to Luke and say, this isnt true, and let it die there. Don’t bring it to the media.

    This giant hothead thinks he can control the media and whatever is said about his team. You can’t muzzle everyone and this is the time now of rumors and innuendo. get use to it.

    Its Toronto too. that’s how it goes. Its been 5 years. you should know better Brian. so suck it up buttercup and try building a winner, not build up a bunch of whiners.

    • reinjosh says:

      It’s Toronto not him. how often do things get asked of him and then he responds? More often than him just bringing it up and bitching.

      • mojo19 says:

        I’m with Nords here. Burke should understand that rumours surrounding his players are inevitable in this market. Don’t whine, or else maybe you’re not the man for the job.

  11. reinjosh says:

    Apparently Colborne was playing with an injured list for most of the year? Could explain his struggles. I’ve been down on him. I’m willing to give him more time.

    And this fetishizing of prospects is ridiculous. Yes Gally is great, I love the guy. But he isn’t worth giving up the 5th overall and a top prospect for (Kadri/Colborne). That’s borderline insane.

    • nordiques100 says:

      i still don’t see what is wrong letting the chips fall where they may. There still stands a strong chance either Galenchuk or Grigorenko will be available at 5.

      The only reason to move prospects like Colborne/Kadri, etc would be to acquire a SECOND top 5 pick. That is keeping the 5th and getting another pick from 1-4.

      Improbable that happens, but that is the only thing that makes sense.

      And, any Schenn to Edmonton, I would have to believe the Leafs would ask for something else back along with 1st overall.

      • reinjosh says:

        Agreed completely. I’m content letting it see how it falls and grabbing one of the forwards if they fall to us. If not then we go from there.

        • nordiques100 says:

          There seems to be world ending paradox’s if the Leafs don’t end up with Galenchuk, Grigorenko or Yakubov.

          I dont think so.

          Forsberg is fine. I rather have a centre, but he is a pretty good prospect.

          And what if they got Murray? They may end up too signing Schultz. Schultz and Murray. with Gardiner and Percy. Not bad eh? That could allow for Franson/Gunny/Schenn to possibly be moved…..for coveted forwards.

          Or, like i mentioned b4, they trade down.

          Maybe save your ammo for next season….and Nathan MacKinnon.

      • I may have misunderstood what you were trying to say at the end. But, I don’t think Schenn is worth the first overall pick. I don’t think Schenn is worth swapping him and the 5th for the 1st. This isn’t moving up 1 or 2 spots, we’re talking about the 1st overall pick, a guarantee to select any player you want.

  12. Schneidfeld says:

    Forgive my ignorance, I’ve been out of “the loop” for awhile, but with Luongo’s stock going up after the Vokoun signing, is it now improbable that the Leafs could put Komi in as part of a package for him, kind of trading bad contracts since both teams would love to be rid of them (the contracts)? Obviously I’m not talking about a straight up trade, so don’t blast me lol, but just one peice of a potential trade.

    • nordiques100 says:

      I don’t believe at all this increases Luongo’s value.

      For goalies, the supply has always outweighed the demand.

      Sure, there are teams out there looking for goalies, Chicago maybe, Tampa, and Toronto.

      but lets not forget the likes of Lindback, Bernier, Harding and a few others are looking for number 1 jobs out there.

      I just think that contract Luongo has will be too much for any team to give up anything of true significance.

      • Schneidfeld says:

        I hear you, and agree for the most part, but wouldn’t that mean that a trade involving Komiserek would still be feasible for both teams? Luongo wants out, and holds the cards with his NTC. Komiserek is the odd man out on the Leafs defense. Both have “bad” contracts. Seems like it might be a good fit (to me) for both sides. Komi, much as he gets dumped on, seems like one of those players who might turn himself around in a new environment. His underperformance has been a bit of a mystery, since everything I’ve read about him talks about how hard he works in the off season & his good training habits. Aside from that, he’s a veteran player & good voice in the locker room.

        Thougths? What do you think would have to be put on the table to make this a reality?

        • Steven_Leafs0 says:

          is not going to happen, Vancouver is already paying 4 defensemen over 4M, they are not going to add a 5th. I can see Connolly being a decent piece for them with Kesler out for the first month or so they could use a 2nd line center that can be shifted to the wing or dropped to 3rd line center.

        • nordiques100 says:

          well i dont think the Canucks would want Komisarek. The Leafs have other contracts, Armstrong, Lombardi, Connolly to offer up. One of those could be included.

          None of the leafs contracts are all that “bad” considering these 4 players have just 1 year left on their deals.

          they’re all cap floor contracts.

          something of some value has to go back….but, for a player of the calibre of Luongo, he won’t bring back nearly his worth in talent.

          If anything, i would be ok to swap Reimer for him. They dont lose a Dman, they dont lose any of their young forwards and they still have the Bus and Owuya for the Marlies. Scrivens then would get the backup shot.

          and heck they could bring in a career AHL goalie to add depth.

          This way they give something of value, gives the Canucks some bargaining power with Schnieder knowing they have a capable guy still in Reims, but cap space too, and the Leafs get their no. 1 guy.

          I have said this b4, Luongo alone could vault the Leafs to a true shot at least 8th in the conference. He is that good.

  13. Schneidfeld says:

    Good points guys, food for thought…

    Guess the Canucks defense situation is yet to be determined, with both Salo & Rome UFA’s this year. According to CapGeek, they’ve got 3 Dmen making 4+ mil per year (Bieska, Hamhuis & Ballard). Too soon to tell if they’ll be resigning those two or if they’re in the market for help on the back end.

    Connolly is a good call, or Lombardi. Of the three you mentioned, I’d most like to keep Armstrong. When he’s healthy, he’s a great role player, just had some bad luck with injuries.

    I was strictly referring to Komi when I said “bad contracts”, as he’s making big money & sitting on the bench most nights last year (45 games played). Don’t think he’s a bad guy, just don’t see a future for him on the Leafs.

    Luongo, like him or not, would unarguably be a significant upgrade for the Leafs in net. And with 3 decent prospect goalies in Riemer, Scrivens, and Rynnas, we could afford to part with one if need be.

    • nordiques100 says:

      I only included Army cause both coaches sat him as a healthy scratch.

      He may end up being redundant and thus expendable depending on what they do.

      I have a feeling the Nucks will shop Ballard. he too has been a healthy scratch in his 2 seasons there.

      At that price, its too high. I am sure someone will take a chance on him based on his age and that would further help the Nucks cap wise.

      They will look to add a defenceman. I can’t see them not. You can have all the quantity you want, but like Toronto, Vancouver is lacking quality. Hamhuis, he isnt a no. 1. Neither is Bieska or Edler. Lots of good 3’s with Edler a good 2 even. but no 1’s.

      their commitments up front prevent that. But i am thinking they will perhaps use Ballard, Raymond, etc to get help on D, or maybe clear salary and take a run at Garrison. That shot, its what they missed with Ehrhoff gone.

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