Rocks Report: Flyers Buyout BOTH Leclair and Amonte! Nolan to stay in Toronto?

The Flyers have bought out both John LeClair and Amonte out of their contracts, which makes them the first buyout victims of the new CBA.

LeClair was going to make $6.84 Million this year, and Amonte was going to make $4.26 Million. Both figures include the 24% rollback and adjustments.

According to the FAN 590, Owen Nolan is claiming that he was injured at some point between the 8 months that the NHL was bargaining, and therefore would need to receive his 2004-2005 salary of $6.5 million in FULL, as well as the buyout price of $3.8 million. The Leafs could be on the hook for $12 million if the full salaries are commanded by Nolan if he was to be bought out. However, more investigation is going into the matter to determine if the injury sustained is such that it occured before the start of the labour dispute, or whether it was during.

38 Responses to Rocks Report: Flyers Buyout BOTH Leclair and Amonte! Nolan to stay in Toronto?

  1. ranger_fan says:

    Why would Nolan be paid for both? I heard he can not be bought out while being injured, and would receive the full contract.

  2. wingerxxx says:

    It might sound absolutely nuts, but IF he can come at a decent price (and short contract length), I wouldn’t mind having LeClair on the Rangers. Go ahead and laugh at our track record with over-the-hill free agent veterans, but LeClair could be the big body and big shot on the left side that this team has been lacking for quite a loooong time…especially on the power play. A top line of LeClair-Nylander-Jagr might not be too horrible. Although it would be very defensively challenged…hmm…Then again, if the Rangers didn’t want to pick him up, I’d totally understand too. LeClair would sure be an upgrade over Jan Hlavac…blech. As for Nolan…if Toronto does have to cover for him, that would really stick for them. They gave up way too much for him as it was…now this.

  3. ranger_fan says:

    What happenned to rebuilding?

  4. Minky says:

    I don’t have a problem with Nolan staying here, as long as they re-negotiate his contract and he plays well. like maybe .75 PPG.

    This could get real ugly, and make Nolan hated for hindering plans the Leafs might have had.

  5. Minky says:

    When i think about it, paying him 12 mil might be worth it, if they have the extra cash. That way we have like 6 mil free to get 2 or 3 decent players.

  6. Flyer_Dman says:

    Nolan has absolutely no incentive to take less money. He will make a killing over this ordeal and find a city that he will enjoy playing for over the remainder of his career (probably a warm city where his nuts won’t freeze off during home games).

  7. NemiNA says:

    That sucks for Toronto. Its awesome for Nolan. No matter what happens to him he wins in this situation.

    It was imperative that the Flyers bought out Amonte and LeClair. Both were great core leaders in the regular season, but they underachieved in the playoffs horribly.

    It looks good for the Atlantic Division.

  8. beefer says:

    Wouldn’t it depend on how Nolan got hurt while they weren’t playing?

  9. TieDomiIsApuss says:

    “It looks good for the Atlantic Division”

    i like how you think the flyers aren’t gonna be as good as last season, because they let leclair and amonte go…..the flyers are gonna be one of the top 3 teams in the east this season!

  10. PayUpSucka says:

    According to a NHL player who knows Nolan well “he’s eating himself out of the

    NHL” gaining close to 30 lbs this past year.. Wonder how many Hagan Daas 12 mill will buy?

    Nolan is done! But him out and move on. The Boo hoo was worth the 12 mill for me, haha.

  11. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    That Nolan shit pisses me off….

    What a selfish little prick….

    Good thing he’s off to somewhere else, Bettman assured us the money we pay to get rid of him won’t count against the cap.

    I wonder if the Leafs can re-sign Renberg and try to re-unite the Legion of Doom?….

  12. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    I wish Linty would stop posting Rocks articles….

    Now I need 13 to catch him!!! (my total is 41)

  13. Flyers_01 says:

    Nolan’s initial buyout cost was expected to be two-thirds of his $5.627-million salary for this season, or approximately $3.8-million. If it is determined that Nolan’s injury occurred before the lockout, he would want to receive his full salary from the 2004-2005 season ($6.5-million). When combined with his full salary for this season, the Leafs could be on the hook for approximately $12-million if they wish to buy out Nolan.

    The Leafs are on the hook for either 3.8 mill (injury during lockout) or 12 mill (injury before lockout). The Leafs are no responsible for whatever Nolan did during the lockout in any way shape or form. Since Nolan had an exit physical at the end of the last season and since he’s only reporting the injury now, most likely he injured himself during the lockout and is making a money grab which will probably fail. The players just keep making their images worse and worse.

    LeClair and Amonte needed to be bought out in the new NHL. So does Brashear if he’s not convicted and DesJardins if he picks up the players option. If DesJardins declines the player option on his contract and signs with the Flyers for less I will welcome him back but his current salary is out of line with his production/age.

    What I do like is that the Flyers brass has been looking at this situation for a year and consulting with one of the best capologists in sports, Philadelphia Eagles Joe Banner. I don’t know about other high payroll teams but Flyers have been preparing for a cap and how to deal with it for at least a year and so far are the only team to make decisive moves coming out of the gate. One thing I predict the flyers will not do is push the cap limit, I’m sure Banner has told them that’s suicide as well as signing aging vets to lucrative contracts but we’ll see. At least the Flyers aren’t under any pressure to let aging vets go out on their own terms, ala Stevie Y, a waste of a roster spot this year.

  14. titans says:

    Who cares about Owen Nolan?? Two real hockey players were just bought out from a real hockey team…THe Flyers! Poor Johnny! Gave so much to Flyers fans and to have to leave like this…bummer.

  15. titans says:

    Four Million. At three bucks each…four million Hagen Daas.

  16. koolcory77 says:

    i dont know if your were joking or not, but…

    Renberg / Lindros / LeClair

    would be stupid. worst line in hockey.

  17. PayUpSucka says:

    Thats alot of Hagen Daas!

  18. wingerxxx says:

    If he could be signed to a short term deal, that is the key. It would not get in the way of the Rangers rebuilding. Trust me, I’m all for playing the younger guys now. LeClair could possibly play on the second line with someone and Balej, letting another of our younger guys play with Jagr and Nylander. As it is right now, even with our youth, Jagr won’t have much to work with up front. So we at least need something, especially with Holik likely to be bought out. But I’m perfectly aware that this probably won’t happen.

    Like I say, if the Rangers don’t grab him, I won’t be heartbroken. The only thing I want the Rangers to do this offseason is grab Leetch back, and maybe a strong stay at home defender…because we really, really need both. A short term LeClair stay would be a little bonus, but certainly not totally necessary.

  19. wingerxxx says:

    This is business. And put yourself in Nolan’s shoes. If I were in his position, I’d be doing the exact same thing honestly. In the end, he’s a human being and has to look out for himself and his family.

  20. JeffBurnz09 says:

    I know it’s kind of greedy, but Nolan did miss a year’s salary…if he can find a loop hole to recover some of that money, why shouldn’t he? I know he’s doing this at the expense of the Toronto Maple Leafs, which will make him the most evil man in the world to most people…but really, 6.5 million isn’t exactly loose change, if he can get some of it back, how can you blame him?

    As for Leclair and Amonte…not really surprising. Leclair isn’t the player he used to be, and has a bad back that probably isn’t going to get better with age. It’s been awhile since I thought about hockey, but I don’t remember Amonte being anything special in Philly either. I wouldn’t mind seeing him go back to Chicago.

    Is Roenick safe? Or is there any chance he’ll be bought out? It seems players his age, making the money he makes are the prime buy-out candidates.

  21. wingerxxx says:

    He has lost a lot of his speed in recent years…it’s pretty evident. I wonder if that has anything to do with it. When power forwards lose that jump in their step…it’s all downhill, just look at LeClair.

  22. wingerxxx says:

    Yeah, I’m a Rangers fan, and even I have a lot of respect for LeClair. I really think that with the salary he’s made in the last couple of years, it made up for all the time that he was underpaid compared to other players…at least in the “Old NHL.” He and Lindros brought out the best in each other. Hopefully he can go to a team where his remaining skills can be put to good use. Lindros and LeClair would probably fare better being reunited than Kariya and Selanne….hmm..

  23. titans says:

    I think LeClair might end back up in Montreal. As for Lindros…who knows.

  24. PayUpSucka says:

    True enough, can’t see Nolan ever coming back. Freedom 35 with a 12 mill buyout! Not a bad deal for a guy clearly on a steady decline.

  25. CechmanekForVezina says:

    I think with a year off most of Roenick’s health problems will be behind him. He does have a lot of concussions though, and one more would not be the best idea. He’s willing to play (and has played) wing and Hitch***** wants him there with Primeau, so he’s staying. And not that Philly will need it, but he puts butts in the seats.

  26. wingerxxx says:

    Yeah…they wouldn’t be as effective as they were close to 10 years ago. Of the three, Lindros is the most high impact player, but he is also the most fragile. LeClair has obviously lost a lot of his effectiveness…and Renberg is really only as good as his linemates…which in this case wouldn’t do him much good. Reuniting them wouldn’t be worth the time and trouble.

  27. sidorkiewicz says:

    A couple of nights ago, I heard Roenick on CKNW, and he stated that he had a promise from Clarke that he would definately be back as a Flyer, if that was what he wanted.

  28. Ace_Bailey says:

    Because in a roundabout way, he’s abusing the new system already. I can blame him, to an athlete like himself, what’s the difference between millions of dollars? Either way, he still has a lot of money. He got paid to sit on his arse and do absolutely nothing for an entire year and now he’s trying to make MORE money than he would if he actually played the game.

    That sounds like bullshit to me.

  29. NemiNA says:

    Dude, you mienterperated that I said it looks good for the Atlantic division meaning it will be competitive as hell! The Flyers are going to go deep in the playoffs. Trust me, I’m a huge Flyers fan.

  30. NemiNA says:

    You’re gonna need a hell of a lot of Icey hot patches and some oil for their bones. Their old as hell, and won’t be effective.

  31. NemiNA says:

    My guts telling me LeClair will sign in Chicago. I wish him luck, it was a hell of a lot of fun watching him the last 10 years. Come to think of it, I started following hockey when I was 10 years old, he’s been a Flyers the entire time I’ve been watching the Flyers. Damn…..

  32. masarume says:

    I totally don’t respect what Nolan is doing. He has more than enough money to “Look out for his family”. 6.5 Mil can last a life time let alone just the 1 year that he’s been unemployed.

    If you believe that what he is dong is human, then would you still respect it if 700 players in the league all pulled the same thing?

  33. TieDomiIsApuss says:

    my bad dude! flyers fan rule!

  34. hoser24 says:

    Morganti was on CSN last night and he said he wouldn’t be surprised if LeClair ended up in Boston. And for a while I was hearing that Amonte would end up as a Bruin too since he’s from the area. But with the NHL wide open as far as free agents are concerned I would take that with a grain of salt.

  35. Aetherial says:

    *Some* Flyers fans are cool. Others are probably the biggest asses on this board.

    The Flyers may not win it this season but they will definitely challenge hard.

    If they don’t win, I give them 3 years, including this year, before they win.

    Give Carter, Richards and Pitkanen a couple years. Give a couple years for the team to shed the rest of the vets and pik up a few more key pieces.

    Sadly, as a Leaf fan, I see the framework of a champion in Philadelpia.

  36. Aetherial says:

    Quality > Quantity.

  37. Aetherial says:

    Montreal may be a good fit.

    I think he will nd up for real cheap on a young team and be there to provide leadership and experience; probably for one more season only.

    Either that or he retires.

    I wonder about Amonte going back to Chicago?

  38. Aetherial says:

    He had an exit physical.

    He is claiming a misdiagnosis by the leaf doctors.

    He cannot lose by pulling this stunt. at worst, he still gets bought out. At best, he gets a lot more.

    I don’t think it will work though.

    I think he will be bought out for the normal amont and then later on we will decide if the Leafs have to pay more.

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