Comments on: Rumors and Speculation from the Toronto Sun

By: nosnow_here

nosnow_here — Fri, 09 Nov 2007 16:37:53 +0000

Hanzal is blowing Gretzky and Morris is a +6. No way either are going anywhere.

By: flamingsenator

flamingsenator — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 13:53:02 +0000

hahaha thats exactly what i do

its like tossing away the business section of the newspaper everyday :p (for me anyways)

By: AntropovGoodIToldUSo

AntropovGoodIToldUSo — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 23:14:10 +0000

Personally I wouldn't move Kulemin, this kid is showing to much promise.
He's tearing up the Russian Super League, well maybe not tearing it up but he is very productive. He is producing more in that league than Ovechkin ever did. Kulemin is one of those untouchable prospects in my eyes as is Pogge and Stralman and possibly Tlusty.

Stajan I can go either way with. You hardly notice him out there on most nights, they say that's good for a defense man, but he is playing second line center right now; not good to be invisible in that position. I still say he's not skilled enough to be a top 6 forward and to soft to be a 3rd liner, although he did throw some hits against Montreal which was nice to see.

Kubina, it wouldn't kill me if they moved him. Personally I am at the point where I would rather see McCabe leaving the team first.

Raycroft, it's just a matter of time. He should have been gone before the season started. I don't like the way he's being treated now, last year he played 72 games and was the starter and now he has to play back seat Sally to Toskala. I know he played crappy last year but he doesn't deserve to be humiliated in the process. I think they should have moved Raycroft the same day they acquired Toskala to be fair to Raycroft.

By: turdfergusson

turdfergusson — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 21:26:57 +0000

Always hearing about Raffi Torres getting traded. I think he's great and and hope Lowe decides to see this through. He's only 25 and already one of the most feared in open ice. His offense is coming around a little too. At 1.6 mill he's a steal.

How about a 3 pt / -8 Jarret stoll?

By: senators101

senators101 — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 20:40:11 +0000

I didn't want him here over the summer and I would have much rather shipped off Corvo to Edmonton and re-signed Preissing. Although I'd still do that swap, Corvo is playing a lot better than last year. We need puck mobility on that pairing because Richardson can't do anything. Also, we're 12-1, something is going right for us. No point tampering with a good thing. Get an explosive start to the season so we don't need to play Forsberg (if he signs) too much and rest him up for the post-season. This team is solid!

By: jimbob

jimbob — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:46:09 +0000

wow, what a terrible deal for the blackhawks.
Potential all-star dman, potential all star power forward, overacheiving forward, AND you want a 1st round pick (that will likely be top 10)? For what? An underachieving dman (this year anyway), and a 3rd line center?

By: 92-93

92-93 — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:30:45 +0000

i would also be asking for a 1st rounder in 2008 from Chicago as well.

By: 92-93

92-93 — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 18:16:44 +0000

i dont really subscribe to the blow-it-up thesis just yet. but that could change fast.

in any case, JFJ is not the guy to blow up his own team ... a new GM would be the one to do that.

I agree about Gill - i think Atlanta would be a good fit for him. And i dont think Kubina would be a hard deal for anyone considering that decent numbers and minutes he is putting up so far this year.

I agree also about Poni - no one really should be 'off limits' with a few exceptions (Tlusty, Steen, Wellwood, Kaberle, etc.).

But even Kaberle is an interesting option. Look at Chicago, they want a puck moving blueliner. the only way i would ever move Kaberle is if Chicago is willing to part with one of their top young forwards AND one of their top young defencemen.

Kaberle, Stajan for Barker, Skille or Brouwer, Jason Williams.

I would make that deal ... but I would then also be blowing everything else up as well... re:

trading Tucker, Sundin, Gill, Kubina, Raycroft, etc.

By: leafy

leafy — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:55:13 +0000

Personally I wouldn't trade Stajan, but that's just me. Agreed that Kaberle is still a keeper.

Morris is still a pretty good defender, but I don't think this trade would improve the Leafs by much.

Unless it's a trade like the one for Gilmour in 1992, there's not one single trade that will turn the leafs around.

My preference would be to rebuild the team the proper way...from scratch. I don't mean today, but definitely after the New Year if things aren't improved.

Foremost, they have to start dumping bodies like the mafia. Sundin should fetch some pretty good prospects or draft picks. Same with Kubina...I agree he's still a pretty good player, just overpaid.

As for Tucker, he played poorly before getting hurt. His trade value is still pending - depends how he plays once he returns.

One guy that could draw a fair amount of interest is Gill. Even though he doesn't skate like Paul Coffey, he's quite rangy on the penalty kill and Toronto's toughest defender. Overall, he's a pretty reliable D.

Poni is another guy that could attract interest. He's a pretty good player, but this year, for whatever reason, he's Toronto's Ryder...very inconsistent. Just can't seem to handle passes very well and is not getting shots.

The next few weeks will be critical in determining whether the Leafs are buyers or seller. If they're sellers, I hope JFJ does the right thing.

By: 92-93

92-93 — Sun, 04 Nov 2007 17:51:25 +0000

McCabe wont waive his NTC for Columbus.

and if the leafs do deal Kubina to Columbus, some salary that Columbus wants to get rid of (i.e. Fedorov's $6 million contract) would have to be coming back the other way.

hey, i would do that trade (Fedorov-Kubina) in an instant considering this is the last year of the Fedorov contract, but only if there is also a prospect coming the other way from Columbus (i.e.: goalie Steve Mason).