Rumors, Rumors, Rumors 2

There are more and more rumors popping out each day.The Boston Globe is reporting the Bruins, Maple Leafs, and Flyers could all be interested in acquiring Vincent Lecavalier this summer. It would cost the Bruins Patrice Bergeron and then some.

Leafy’s take: Well he won’t go to the Leafs, down the middle they’ll probably already have Sundin, Wellwood, Stajan, Lindros, and possibley Antropov, Wilm, and Allison, I don’t see them adding another centreman, that’s a position they’ve always been deep at.

Larry Brooks reports that Patrick Elias and Martin Havlat are the latest NHL lovers to become a package deal… the Rangers or Devils could be interested.

Leafy’s take: This won’t happen as long as Havlat is restricted. I can see Elias fleeing the Devils to become aprt of the National Czech team, I mean the New York Rangers.

Hockey Night in Canada reported that Luongo will likely be traded in the next 12 days, listing Detroit and Los Angeles as possible destinations.

Leafy’s take: If Luongo is traded, it won’t be for much, because he’s going to test the open market next year, so he’s a one season deal, and that will drive his price down by ALOT.

Guerin could be moved or bought out according to hockey night in Canada, and Ed Jovanovski WILL be a UFA. Langenbrunner will also attrack interest.

What happened to this window of oppurtunity the Stars had to trade Guerin? Does anyone else remember this? Is this a yearly thing, or a one time thing, because if it’s a one time thing, they can’t trade him, and he’d be a buy out. Keenan loves Guerin, and I could see him going to Florida. One bad year, Guerin’s always been a super star. I could see Jovanovski and Langenbrunner also landing in Florida. They’re building a team there, imagine a top six of Roberts, Nieuwendyk, Guerin, Jokinen, Langenbrunner, and Horton, then a top four of Jovanovski, Bouwmeester, Hill, and Semenov. With Jokinen, Nieuwendyk, Weiss, and Stumpel down the middle, I can see this team making the playoffs, although that’s counting on three big additions.

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41 Responses to Rumors, Rumors, Rumors 2

  1. Jrugges says:

    I hope what you say about Loungo is true. All true hockey fans would go nuts if this guy came to town, he’s a solid rock in net and detroits needed i guy like him for the last three years.

  2. 92-93 says:

    “Leafy’s take: Well he won’t go to the Leafs, down the middle they’ll probably already have Sundin, Wellwood, Stajan, Lindros, and possibley Antropov, Wilm, and Allison, I don’t see them adding another centreman, that’s a position they’ve always been deep at.”

    there are a lot of reasons why Lecavlier won’t be coming to toronto. but the reason you gave – i.e. the leafs have too many centres already – is not one of them.

    do you honestly think something like that would scuttle a deal that would get vincent lecavlier in a leafs uniform??? Lindros or wellwood or Steen????

    in terms of depth, the leafs would jump at the chance of getting Lecavlier and i am sure they would have not trouble trading any one, two, or three of their current centres to make room for him.

  3. neilios says:

    Anyone else hearing the rumor with the Canucks trading Bertuzzi and there 1st round pick to the Pens for there 1st round pick and the rights to Morozov since the guy is coming back this year.I think this would be a pretty decent trade for the Canucks they can take Stall or Backman and Iam pretty sure any of those 2 can step up to the NHL right away and Morozov can help out Nassy on the 2nd line since the Sedins and Carter our the 1st line now.This way Canucks can save some sallary and sign Jovo,Carter and the twins and maybe have a little bit a room to sign a vetern.

    This trade would make sense for the Pens to since they are a young team and they would need some size with speed to play with Sid and Malkin.

    Does anyone know whats going on with Morrison is he gonna be dealt or what?????

  4. goalieman32 says:

    this makes no sence for the pens. they get a lower draft pick and a guy who is the most hated player in the league and doesnt produce often for a higher draft pick and a guy who was one of the leaders in the super league for the past two years and can make a dramatic impact on the wing where they have little talent. if this goes through i would be calling for shero to get the can. big bert has shown nothing and to give up that much for him and a larger salary that he commands is ponderous.

  5. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    Any trade that Vancouver does had better involve McCarthy and Park. According to you, these 2 “superstars” near the trade deadline was gonna bring back somebody good in return.

  6. 369rumors says:

    leafy, i used 2 hate u, all ur leafs shit and all that, but i now respect u and ur views. great job, i love all ur latest articles, even a few leafs ones. BTW- were do u get all these siik rumors?



  7. Aetherial says:

    I am guessing it would take Steen or Wellwood, a number 1 pick, and probably one of their young D … At the very least; maybe even Pogge or Rask.

    Tough call to make. That is giving up a lot for a star player that the team is still a ways away from building around.

    I would rather see them try to get Luongo, unless he is dead set on a one year deal. I somehow think he would sign a longer deal if it was not with the Panthers. The Panthers are on the rise but I think that Luongo and Keenan still don’t have the best relationship, thus he won’t sign there long term… but that is just a guess

  8. Aetherial says:

    No way in hell I would swap picks and get Bertuzzi for Morozov. I am also not sure Pittsburgh wants to take on a bertuzzi-ish salary!

  9. big_booty says:

    1) Lecavalier:

    a. No way he’ll be a Leaf. Toronto does not have anything that the Lightning would want in return (i.e. goaltending, defense). Keep dreaming.

    b. Doubtful he’d be a Flyer. Bob Clarke is under a mandate not to trade young players for veterans. Lecavalier would likely cost Niitymaki, Carter or Richards (not both), and probably Pitkanen. Definitely too high of a price tag.

    c. If I’m the Bruins, I do everything within reason to get Vinny in black and gold. A package of Bergeron, Boynton, and Raycroft would most likely land you Lecavalier and a mid-level pick. Let the Bears build around Vinny (rather than Thornton), and the Bolts build around Richards (rather than Lecavalier).

    2) Larry Brooks is a class-A nimrod. Anything he says, writes, or implies is to be taken with a grain of salt the size of Montana. Moving on…

    3) Luongo:

    a. I don’t doubt that Kenny Holland has a chubby for Luongo, but I highly doubt that Mike Keenan would only take Datsyuk for him in a deal. Datsyuk’s already got himself a little bit of an attitude, not something that that Keenan wants. Plus, Holland’s already painted himself into a corner by letting Legace walk. If, and only if, Florida decides to trade Luongo to Detroit, it would probably cost Zetterberg, Kronwall, and a first-rounder. No less.

    b. LA? Who do they trade? They are in no position to give up any of their young talent. No doubt that Luongo would probably make them a playoff team, but not without the likes of Dustin Brown, Mike Cammelleri, or Alexander Frolov, not to mention Aaron Miller or Mattias Norstrom.

    3) Guerin – I don’t see him going anywhere, be it via trade or buyout.

    4) Jovanovski – witness a bidding war between Bob Clarke and Mike Keenan.

  10. OldGoalie says:

    Well, it’s starting to look to me like the Pens are fairly likely to trade the #2…on, Ray Shero says “Even if we stay at No. 2 and draft, we’re going to get an exciting player who will help our team for a long time.” To me, that sounds like a guy who would be surprised if they hold on to the pick.

    That having been said…I absolutely agree that this rumor is horrifically one sided. Vancouver gets younger (Bertuzzi is almost exactly 2 years older than Morozov), loses salary, and drops a player who is now too controversial to justify his inconsistent performance. I mean…if you deal for this guy…are you getting the player who scored 36 in 2001-02 and 46 the next season, or are you getting the guy who never scored more than 25 in any other year? Sad as it is to say, teams might be willing to put up with the peripheral garbage from a 40 goal player. The Pens, on the other hand, get older, more expensive, draft lower, and pick up a head case.

    I also agree with whoever said that Bertuzzi’s salary is probably more than the Pens want to deal with. All indications from ownership and the new GM’s office that they’ll be looking at mid-level free agents, rather than elite guys.

  11. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    I believe I sourced everything, but the following two sites collect most rumors and post them.

  12. markjohnston says:

    Well he won’t go to the Leafs, down the middle they’ll probably already have Sundin, Wellwood, Stajan, Lindros, and possibley Antropov, Wilm, and Allison, I don’t see them adding another centreman, that’s a position they’ve always been deep at.

    the leafs have sundin at centre. that’s about it. the rest are “whatever players”. not terrible, but not untouchable by any stretch.

    sundin is also getting close to retirment.

    if the leafs wanted lecalvier, they could certainly come up with a package to get him – possibly including sundin (money matches up nicely) and another centre (younger and cheaper).

    I am in no way saying the leafs will go after lecalvier, nor that he is even on the market….nor that I would particularly like to see lecalvier in the blue and white. BUT, if the leafs wanted to go after him, wellwood, stajan, alison and lindros and even sundin aren’t even close to good enough reasons not to.

  13. cecilturtle says:

    Maybe it’s because I’m a Rangers fan that I can see what Vancouver fans cant… Ya see, until this last year the Rangers always had a few (ok many) players, like a Bertuzzi, on their roster who were overpaid and untradable. Lets face it… Vancouver should have bought out Betuzzi’s contract before last year when they had the chance. Now because of this cap – it’s too late. You blew it! You are stuck with him. No GM who wants to be still employed at seasons end will give up anything of value for the most hated man in hockey… Most teams (if not all???) would pass on him if he were on the waiver wire, especially with his outragious contract! Do you realize how unrealistic, outside of Vancouver, you sound when you talk about other teams trading for Bertuzzi??? Please, Just Stop Already!!!

    Cecil Turtle

  14. 369rumors says:

    thanks leafy

  15. markjohnston says:

    by the way, before some crazy fool jumps on my post, I’m not saying that the lighting would be stupid enough to trade lecavalier for (let’s say) sundin and wellwood, just that a package COULD be put together in some form taking into consideration things like salaries and contract length.

  16. Aetherial says:

    I am by no means a Canucks fan, but I think he is tradeable.

    I think probably there are a few teams that would like to have him (Anaheim!).

    The thing is, they won’t get back equal value, nevermind the value that this idea here suggested. A team will deal maybe a young prospect and a pick for him … It is all about his salary!

    It would not surprise me to see him stay on the canucks and have a big year next year.

  17. Aetherial says:

    I agree with everything except the usual blanket statement that the Leafs have nothing to offer.

    I bet they could put together a package… I just think it would be too expensive for them to do considering where the organization is at this point.

  18. Aetherial says:

    The whole point to trading LeCavelier is the salary dump so matching salaries is not the direction the Lightning will take.

  19. 369rumors says:

    how bout lecavalier 4 aubin/telqvist and wellwood/ steen and stajan? this is asuming the leafs sign legace or another elite goalie.

  20. bleed_penguins says:

    I am not 100% sure because I wasn’t listening too carefully but on Penguins talk with Bob Grove people were asking about the Morozov situaiton. If I heard correctly Morozov is a UFA and the Pittsburgh Penguins hold no rights to him. He is not a tradeable asset and thus I dont know where you heard this rumor. On the other hand, I would love see Bert in a Pens uniform and if it’s only going to cost us this years draft choice then bring him on.

  21. markjohnston says:

    yes, I know this.

    I didn’t say that was the whole deal though. a couple of things to keep in mind.

    1. length of sundin vs. lecavalier contract

    2. tbay could toss in a $2 million player (or two) that they don’t want and can talk the leafs into taking. the leafs have lots of cap space and might want the player, be able to trade them OR just eat the salary/buyout.

    my point was that it CAN be done, not that it will, or is a good idea for either team.

  22. GoalJudge says:

    Here we go…Another Leafy article.

    Nevermind that the guy has opened a blog and try to pass it off as a credible sight for hockey rumours. Even stealing the set up for his dialogue from

    But hey he is contibuting, so C+.

    Toronto would do everything short of trading Sundin to get Lecavalier, and with JFJ there, that by the hugest longshot could happen out of spite although he would get lynched by fans, but I don’t see it. Toronto is trying to build around the youth they have, not trying to deal it away. One or two guys could go but not the laundry lists I have seen. Steen i think is safe from trade bait as he showed the most improvement but stajan or wellwood would definitely be expendable. Along with Telqvist.

    The question is, does TB want them. Maybe if Pogge or Rask was available it would be a good chance. But those are long term players and TB wants to stay competitive now. As much as T.O. could make a good offer, other teams can and will do better when the time comes. This would also involve trading Allison’s rights as a bargain player, which no one would object too, but is it enough for T.O. to seal the deal.

    I have huge doubts. TB will want more and they’ll get it.

    Luongo to Detroit, I already commented on, but to beat a deadhorse, Luongo and Detroit would be a match made in heaven for both parties and it would be a longterm realtionship. Florida will take what thye can get and hope they can retain them. The curse of the fringe market.

    Havlat will most likely sign a oneyear deal with Ottawa, and move on as a UFA next year, unless Ottawa feels it is losing to much if Chara or REdden go, or it they need to get a starting goalie.

    Elias in the Rangers is possible, but then the rangers will have a lot of money tied to him and Jagr, and again there hopes tied to Lundvist in the playoffs. there could be worse situations.

    Guerin will be bought out by Dallas. He is not contributing to what what he makes. Dallas is guilty of being spooked by the looming hockey Armageddon of past and way overpaid like a lot of franchises did. They will dump his salary and he will sign as a bargain player somewhere else to get a fresh start to his career. It would be mutually benficial arrangement. I would miss the leafs going after him, as they did when Dallas overpaid for him, and the leafs give him a deal a la Lindros and Allison, but for more money. Toronto likes dinasours. Nuff said.

  23. Maximus says:

    If Vancouver wants Morozov, then sign him. He is an unrestricted free agent. He is free as a bird to sign with any team.

  24. Maximus says:

    I would like to throw opinion to the mix about

    Loungo. I do not think his trade value will be lowered at all. Any team that is trading for him will be signing him to a long term deal. They will have this worked out with his agent before any trade for his services would be made.

  25. LeafyMcLeaf says: is just the URL, the actual blog title, as it displays, is “Leafys Hockey Report”.

    Why the hell are you being such a prick, I contributed an article, which is 75% just repeats from other rumor sites, and gave a brief commentary. I didn’t say Lecavalier would be a Leaf, I shot that rumor down. The reason there was no commentary on the Bruins and Flyers chances is because I really didn’t have anything to say on that matter. I suggest you stop being a prick, and if you have a problem with the site content, write something yourself.

  26. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    Centre isn’t a need, it would make more sense for them to chase a winger, or a defenseman. St Louis, Mogilny, Bertuzzi, McKee, or another defenseman would make better targets because they adress a need.

  27. Veggetto19 says:

    i dont think Vinny will be in orange and black look at all the centers they have now what are they gonna do with them? Marty Murry, Jeff Carter, Mike Richards, Keith Primeau( If he comes back) Peter Forsberg, Michael Handzus ( he was playing wing so he will proabbly do that) Peter Nedved ( im pretty sure he is making like 2 mill so no reason to buy him out)

    If they do land him i dont see as much as u say going for him i see it more like esche and johnsson and proably a draft pick pitkanen wont be going any where carter and Richards are safe but are all the other centers safe foppa is def safe lol any ideas?

  28. intelligentscorpio says:

    That would be the stupidest trade of the entry draft. Why would you give up the chance to pick #2 for a huge salary and the liability of Bertuzzi.
    Wow, you really must be a Canuck’s fan and want to get rid of Bert this way. You know what, I don’t think Shero is that gullible.

  29. Rico420 says:

    Guerin would never play for the Leafs..he hates Canada.

  30. woodsco85 says:

    The Bruins Colours Are Black And Yellow! Don’t Kid Yourself Buddy. Theres Nothing Gold About That Team.

  31. big_booty says:

    Please. I expect more out of you.

    I repeat: There is nothing that Toronto has that Tampa Bay would want in return for Vincent Lecavalier.

    Tampa wants NHL-caliber starting goaltending of a more-than-above-average nature.

    Tuukka Rask? No. Justin Pogge? No. Mikael Tellqvist? No.

    Tampa wants NHL-caliber defensemen well-suited to the new NHL.

    Only possible candidate is Kaberle. Colaiacovo? Unproven and injury prone, so no. Berg? No. Belak? No. Khavanov? Yawn. Richardson? Please.

    Tampa wants a scoring forward to replace Lecavalier.

    Unless the Leaves are dealing Sundin, options are nil. Tucker? No, not dynamic enough. Antropov? No. Waste of space. Stajan/Steen/Wellwood? No, three wrongs don’t make a right. O’Neill/Allison? You’re kidding, right?

    If nothing else, Tampa wants blue-chip prospects who will develop in Lecavalier-fashion.

    Low draft picks/poor drafting over the past decade have left the Leaf cupboard bare. After Rask, Pogge, and Colaiacovo, there are no can’t-miss youngsters in the Toronto system. You might be able to bring up Sugolobov’s name, but nothing else.

  32. mtl_prince says:

    um so ya, lecavalier is going to the habs…wake up!

  33. Aetherial says:

    Hmmm, I Actually would not be so quick to put Suglabov that high.

    I think the difference between our opinions seems to be what Tampa “wants”.

    There are no sure fire candidates that will develop into a Lecavelier that teams would trade… and then take on Lecavelier’s salary in return? I doubt Tampa wants expensive guys.

    I do agree that a starting NHL Goaltender would be a start, but who is out there that is equal value to Vinnie? I would say only Luongo, but now you are on the salary problem again.

    Like I said, I think the Leafs *could* entice the Bolts, simply because of the economics. The Problem is that their cupboard is pretty thin and it will have to be thinned out even more to get him.

    Considering salary and the way the new NHL seems to be playing out, I bet another team is not offering better than a Steen + 1st round pick + One of White/Bell/Colaiacovo/Harrison…

    Seriously, it may not be equal value, and I am not arguing that point. I think it is a numbers game. Let’s face it, Vinnie is not going to land you Crosby Kovalchuk, Ovechkin, Staal, or Phaneuf and anyone else of equal value is just as expensive.

  34. Aetherial says:

    I think that is along the lines of what they will be looking for.

    And I think that is too much to give up if you are the Leafs. You can’t give up two top young players when you are at the stage they are rebuilding.

  35. 369rumors says:

    or st. louis

  36. EmptyNetter says:

    Do you mean Backstrom? Backman plays for St. Louis.

  37. oiler1fan says:

    if semenov is in their top 4, ……….wow

  38. EmptyNetter says:

    Keenan also loves Thornton but the Panthers’ owners rejected a trade proposal because they didn’t want to take on his salary. Guerin and Thornton earn the same money so I don’t see a trade happening.

  39. hockeytom77 says:

    Remember, Vancouver isnt dealing with the same guy that dealt naslund for basically a couple bags of used pucks and broken sticks

  40. Prynce says:

    Well, you see, MORON, the Lightning wont get an equal trade ANYWHERE, because they are the ones trying to clear cap room.

  41. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    lmao because if a player is French, they’re going to the Habs!

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