Rumors from’s Darren Dreger

Darren Dreger: We are hearing some interesting names that are starting to surface. Two of them that come to mind are Brayden Schenn of the Phildadelphia Flyers and Michael Del Zotto of the New York Rangers. Now the Flyers aren’t trying to push out Schenn – they may want to push out his brother Luke – but what they’ve told teams quietly is that if there is the right deal available, if they can find the right fit, then absolutely they would include Brayden Schenn in a trade scenario. And we know Paul Holmgren likes to make that big blockbuster deal.

As for Del Zotto and the Rangers, he’s not having a good year, playing well behind Ryan McDonagh and Marc Staal on the left side, so he’s a third-pairing defenceman. He could probably embrace a change and we’re told that at least five or six teams have inquired about scenarios.

Pierre LeBrun: I think one of those teams is the Ottawa Senators. They’ve had this mystifying start, they’ve been so inconsistent and I’m told one of their top priorities on the trade market between now and the trade deadline is to find another puck-moving defenceman and Del Zotto is on that list of players on their radar. But it’s money in, money out with the Senators with the situation with ownership.

78 Responses to Rumors from’s Darren Dreger

  1. leafy says:

    If Burke had drafted Braydon Schenn as he hoped, he probably would not have traded Luke for JVR. Funny how things can seem bleak but work out for the better.

    • doorman says:

      No kidding, Kadri/JVR hands down greater value then the Schenn brothers.

      • realistic_leafs_fan says:

        I know this sounds out there…but would Philly be interested in Liles if we took back L.Schenn, Grossman, Mezaros and then we added a prospect? They want a puck mover. Liles is that.

        Maybe something like Liles, Brennan/Percy for L. Schenn? Possible?

        • LN91 says:

          I don’t want anything to do with Luke Schenn.

          • mapleleafsfan says:

            At this point is Luke Schenn even much of an upgrade on Fraser? Maybe slightly, but at that contract I’d probably say no.

            • Gambo says:

              I really don’t get it, Luke Schenn played amazing for Philly last year, but hasn’t looked good at all this year.

              We saw it in Toronto and it’s been showing in Philly that Schenn can be an effective player when playing a lot(20+ mins), but when his minutes are low as in the 15 min range or less he just looks terrible and useless.

              • LN91 says:

                He was used sparingly by Carlyle as well…I don’t care if he played well for one year.

                You cannot say Schenn was an effective player for 20+ here because those teams were dreadful on D.

          • leafmeister says:

            I’d take Luke if they’d part with Brayden for less. Not that I think either is anything special yet, but I think B. Schenn has the potential to be the exact centre Toronto needs.

        • LN91 says:

          However, I would be open to Grossman.

          • mojo19 says:

            Only D on Philly I have much interest in is Coburn. Or possibly Timonen at the deadline, I know he’s a “puck mover” but he’s actually just a classy vet on an expiring deal who has a no panic approach all over, and is not a soft, finesse, puck mover. Like most Finn’s, Kimo Timo has a bit of sandpaper to his game.

  2. leafy says:

    I’m hearing that a major trade is brewing, but it could just be voices in my head.

  3. leafs_wallace93 says:

    From day one Luke Schenn gave me a Luke Richardson vibe, highly totted prospect that made an impact as a rookie (Richardson knocking out Granato was on every highlight reel for 10 years) but faded into a solid depth blueliner. I can see Luke being a quality journeyman.

    I have to assume that Burke is going to target his man crush on B.Schenn

    Sven Bärtschi


    If we traded Gardiner for him it’d work out to Beachemin for B.Schenn & Lupul something a couple years ago would make this utterly laughable. Exposes the wisdom of the internet choir opinion I suppose.

    • mojo19 says:

      Ya, that wouldn’t be a bad move. Honestly, I think B.Schenn is redundant when we’re healthy. He’s just a less seasoned Bolland, better off keeping the Jake for now.

  4. LN91 says:

    Would the Leafs defence not be better if Ranger was not on it?

    He wins the BoneheadDion award so far this season. Always on the ice when the opposing team scores, and a bad turnover machine.

    Franson/Gardiner have looked like they found their spark again together.

    Phaneuf/Gunarsson have looked alot better this year.

    On the lower pairing, Reilly looks good, Fraser has looked decent when healthy, and Ranger looked brutal. Why not put Fraser with Reilly? Instead of his Ranger/Fraser experiment.

  5. mapleleafsfan says:

    Pretty interesting article with a breakdown of how we score our goals. Not necessarily a good thing, but almost all our goals are off the rush. Our cycle game is really, really bad.

    • leafy says:

      Very similar to the 1999 Leafs which scored almost exclusively off the rush.

      Then when we later added Corson, Roberts, Tucker, Green, Renberg, etc, we became a great cycling team.

    • LN91 says:

      I agree, it’s where Toronto’s speed is very effective against most teams. However, they need a better cycle game to win the cup. If they can develop it and Ranger is in the AHL, Leafs could go very far in the postseason. Not many teams have a cycle game, size, grit, blitzing speed, and 2 elite goaltenders for a postseason.

      It would help if they had a healthy team (chemistry issues), played stronger along the board, and made smarter decisions with the puck (AKA, reduce the turnovers, especially from the defence).

      • mapleleafsfan says:

        Agreed. If we had a big Center that can cycle we would be serious competitors. Imagine we had someone like Getzlaf. I’d drool at the thought of him and JVR together. We have one of the best 3C’s and 4C’s in the game with Bolland/McClement. Kadri is more than adequate for a 2nd line C. Can we bring Sundin back?

        Anyways, how do you think the lineups go with Kadri back? I’d probably keep Holland on the first line to spread out the offence and put Kadri on the second. Hopefully him and Lupul can get going like last year.

        • LN91 says:

          I agree.

          I think it should be:


          • LN91 says:

            Apparently, it’s


            I do not agree with it.

            • mapleleafsfan says:

              Doesn’t really make sense. I think Lupul is struggling a bit this year with no one to play with. He’s trying way more shifty one on one dekes. Kessel/JVR produce with anyone, and Kadri and Lupul were dynamite last year. Weird move on Carlyles part.

              I’m still waiting for Lupul-Kadri-Clarkson. That line will be really solid and I’m not sure why it hasn’t been tried.

              • reinjosh says:

                I want to see that line too damnit. I miss seeing the Lupul/Kadri connection and I’d love to see what Clarkson opening up room for them could do for that line. Not a fan of Carlyle’s move here.

                Plus I love the spread out offense. Stupid Carlyle (not sarcasm. Was never a fan of his. Still not)

                • TmLeafan says:

                  I don’t think it is that big of a deal. I bet he will start out JVR, Kadri, Kessel which could be deadly, Kadri should have lots of jump after his suspension. Carlyle changes his lines from period to period rather than game to game so I am sure we will see Kadri back with Lupul some point soon.

                  Not a fan of Carlyle? I think he is a great coach. We are struggling mainly because of injuries and we have a young mistake/giveaway prone defence. Not exactly his fault, I expect the blue line will improve they are still growing. He has vastly improved our special teams and our physicality.

                  He is a playoff coach he knows how to win games. Preaches a physical style which is perfect for the post season when less penalties are called. It is not realistic to expect a team to play balls to the wall and physical throughout the lineup for 82 games the reality is players get tired. Come playoff time you will have Phaneuf, Fraser, Franson, Ranger all playing more physical which should improve the look of our team from a defensive stand point in our own end.

                  Also love how Carlyle has handled the goalies and the players in general (holding them accountable without the Wilson type callouts).

                  • mapleleafsfan says:

                    I’m on and off with Carlyle. I mean, we’re winning, so I guess he’s doing something right. But with the team we have, we shouldn’t have 0 possession time and be routinely outshot. Our special teams are great though, which is nice. Remember that stretch under Wilson, around December/Jan of his last year, where almost every pp for the other team was a goal. It was so pathetic.

                    • TmLeafan says:

                      Ya what seperates Carlyle from Wilson is his ability to adapt. We have a big defence which should be good, but doesn’t seem like it has the right balance right now. I don’t think Nonis will make any major moves regarding the forwards but I believe he will bring in another defenceman to help out.

              • mapleleafsfan says:

                I actually didn’t realize Lupul had as many points as he does. He’s hardly been noticeable compared to last year.

                I agree with you Josh, him and Kadri had something great going last year and Clarkson brings the grit that will just give them more confidence with the puck.

  6. leafy says:

    I don’t think it’s right there aren’t any blockbuster trades anymore. Baseball just had a huge trade today. In hockey, maybe one huge trade every 5-10 years. When was the last one? I don’t even remember.

    The old system without the cap was better. You can make a huge move any time. The Gilmour trade involving 10 players was consummated in one morning over breakfast.

    • reinjosh says:

      It really depends on what you mean by blockbuster. The cap and contract system definitely makes it a little more difficult to make moves, but the salary retention possibility should open things up a little more now.

      I would consider the Seguin/Eriksson deal a blockbuster deal.

  7. toronto77 says:

    What a brutal game! Has this leafs team every played hockey? they couldn’t make a pass to save their life. I don’t mind the loss it’s the fuckn effort, you guys are getting paid millions of dollars, you should come motivated to play every night.

    Doesn’t matter who the coach is or who the players are, for the last 5 years this team has had a brutal jeckyl and hyde personality. Can compete with the best teams in the league and other nights play like they don’t care, and can’t wait for the game to be over, I thought players like Clarkson were going to put an end to that?

    • blaze says:

      Every single team in the league does this, I know you probably dont watch other teams but everything you just wrote could be said for any team in the NHL.

      This week alone Chicago gets smoked by Nashville 7-2, rebounds big against the Sharks 5-1 then follows it up with a 5-1 loss to Colorado.

      This is the best team in the NHL.

    • leafy says:

      I agree on one thing for sure. The Leafs are not a very good passing team.

      • blaze says:

        The Leafs have enough highly skilled guys both up front and on D so it’s kind of surprising.

        • mapleleafsfan says:

          It really is. I don’t get how with Franson/Reilly/Gardiner all being offensive minded D, and the skilled wingers we have, how can we not break out at all?

          Clarkson and Lupul were awful tonight (from what I saw, turned it off at 4-1). Why when we’re down two goals does Carlyle put Kadri with Orr and Raymond? He scored, so I guess I can’t say anything, but still. If you need goals, load up. All this line juggling and none of our players have any chemistry. Kessel only play 15 minutes too. He was bad on the one goal, but he’s by far our best player. You’d think when we’re losing, he’d play.

          Slight upside, JVR was good as always, Reilly with 2 helpers is nice too.

          • blaze says:

            Word is Kessel isnt 100%.

            Carlyle felt the team was flat for 2 periods so he tried to inject a little energy with Orr and hey it worked, so that’s why.

            You can say what you want about Carlyles line juggling but it has worked. Carlyle completely changed the way the team plays and they’re hopefully on their way to a second playoff bound season.

            Now the Leafs are a winning team dealing with a lot of injuries. I like it when guys like Bolland, Kulemin, Raymond, McClement etc. get moved up the line up because of their strong play.

            A lot of guys are having solid offensive seasons up front so far. JVR and Kessel clearly have chemistry. Lupul is off to a great start. Raymond is beyond expectations. Did people really expect Kadri to be PPG player this year? His production has been good.

            • mapleleafsfan says:

              I wouldn’t say Lupul is off to a great start. His numbers are pretty solid, but he’s been PPG as a leaf until this season, so he’s playing worse than he has in the past. And although his totals are fairly high, he’s only gotten points in 10 separate games, which isn’t great.

              • blaze says:

                He never played a full injury free season as a Leaf and spent the nearly all his PPG time on Kessels wing, and then with Kadri during his little hot streak.

                Ive been happy with Lupuls game so far. Keep in mind this is the deepest the Leafs have been up front. Raymond has produced very well, there’s only so much production you can expect up front from the group.

          • mojo19 says:

            “All this line juggling and none of our players have any chemistry” – Tell that to coach Babcock and Scotty Bowman, both of whom won Stanley Cups in Detroit using upwards of 10-11 different line combo’s throughout the course of a game.

        • leafy says:

          Absolutely it’s surprising. Coaching is an issue in my opinion. Pat Quinn was a genius in teaching a passing game and would whip these guys into shape.

  8. Gambo says:

    I’m going to be honest, I haven’t liked Franson much at all this year. After such a good season and a strong playoff performance last year, he has been kind of a disappointment. Yeah he’s putting up points, he hasn’t looked bad offensively, but defensively he’s been a mess, just like game 7 last year. And he’s slow as fuck. Sucks that he’s the only right handed defenseman on the team.

    Not saying to trade him or anything, because I do like what he is capable of bringing. He’s definitely not working towards a 4+million/yr contract that’s for sure. Hopefully he can turn it around, because he’s definitely better than what he’s playing like.

    And I disagree Mapleleafsfan, I thought Clarkson was a beast tonight. He almost scored a few times, looked like one of our best players tonight. I thought so at least.

    I love Rielly though, he’s showing so much potential. He’s fairly physical at times too.

    8 Hits for Holland?? I’m really curious to see who our centermen are next season. Bozak, Kadri, Bolland and Holland should all be capable top 6 centers.

    • mapleleafsfan says:

      I missed the first half of the first, and stopped at 4-1 so I probably missed his good shifts. In which case I’m glad he played well, because he’s been really solid lately. From what I saw he bobbled the puck and killed momentum a few times. Jersey fans weren’t lying when they say he gets tunnel vision.

      I agree on Franson. He stinks defensively. He was a beast against Boston last playoffs, but this season has been brutal. If he could be the centerpiece for Schenn/Coutourier I do that no problem. His salary will guaranteed be 4+, which for a completely 1 dimensional defensemen is not worth it IMO.

      I’ve been impressed with Holland. He doesn’t hit hard, but at least he finishes them. His shot was also really nice. Bad goaltending, but it was still a really good shot.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      Franson has calmed on a bit which IMO is a good thing, he looks so so so so so so awful when he tries to do too much. It’s funny how much hype Franson earned last year. He’s productive but he’s basically like a blueline version of Grabovski, there are holes in his game.

  9. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    A series of trades that totally ignore NTC’s and maybe even the cap and not likely trading
    This comes from the Gleason for Liles rumour and everyone seems to now want to dump Bozak.

    To Carolina
    Liles, McKegg
    To Toronto

    To Vancouver
    Bozak, Gunnar, Brennan
    To Toronto

    To Colorado
    Raymond, Fraser, Percy
    To Toronto

    When Healthy

    JVR Stastny Kessel
    Lupul Kadri Clarkson
    McClement Bolland Kulimen
    McLaren Holland Orr
    Smith Smithson

    Phaneuf Bieksa
    Gardiner Franson
    Ranger Gleason


    • mapleleafsfan says:

      I like all the trades, but I don’t think the other teams do (aside from Carolina).

      I honestly don’t really see Colorado trading Stastny unless they fall off a lot. He’s been really solid this year, and is a good vet for the young guys. If they did trade him though – Raymond is pretty insignificant because he’s UFA, and Percy/Brennan are just sort of B pieces. I’d imagine they’d want at least a first and decent prospect (if they fall out of the playoff picture).

      I’d love Bieksa, and the Nucks lack C depth, so maybe it could work? I think teams would outbid that offer though. Bozaks value can’t be high with that contract, frasers is probably ~ 3rd round pick, and Percy is an OK prospect.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      Classic rlf over payment in each case. Why cut our depth prospects just to bring in a mediocre name. Let’s trade our 1st for Jason Pomminville while we’re at it. Myopic, unneeded trades IMO.

      • mapleleafsfan says:

        I’m curious which one of those you consider an overpayment. We get the best player in every deal, and don’t give up anything too substantial. I doubt any of those teams do those deals, except Carolina.

        Stastny is a pretty big upgrade on Bozak. Gleason would help more than Liles.
        Bieksa is a good upgrade on Gunnar, and is a solid team guy. None of these guys are that old.

        The lineup after those trades is much better. Only position we’re weaker on is wing depth losing Raymond, but realistically he will likely be gone as he will require a raise this offseason. We lose McKegg and percy from the prospect pool, who cares? McKegg likely won’t be more than a 3rd line C, and Percy is expendable with how many D prospects we have. For an immediately better team that’s worth it IMO.

        Also, I would definitely trade a first round pick for Pomminville (if it would work cap wise -which it wouldn’t). Man are first round picks overrated. Pomminville scored 73 points his last full season. Would you trade Lupul for a first round pick? I hope not. When you’re not picking in the top 10-15, first rounds picks are a huge crap shoot. Say we finish with the 15th overall pick. That has no where near as much value as pomminville.

        Last 5 15th overall picks:

        Ryan Pulock
        Cody Ceci
        J.T Miller
        Derek Forbort
        Peter Holland

        Is there a single one of those guys worth even close to Pommminville in value? Nope. (Although, next year was Erik Karlsson haha, but that’s such a rare occurrence).

        Not to mention the leafs with Pomminville would have the best wingers in the league, and probably finish with

        • realistic_leafs_fan says:

          I agree with all that MLF. I’m not sure the other teams would do it either, but it gives you an idea how we could go from playoff contenders to cup contenders. Some people over value Leaf players and under value players on other teams. Wallace only likes my trades that have a ridiculous win for the Leafs. He might even find a problem with Liles for Bieksa straight up. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Kassian comment coming

          • leafs_wallace93 says:

            Dude, you wanted to trade Kessel for Luongo, Higgins and Kassian.

            I hate trades when you assume guys like Gunner and Bozak are worthless just because you have a bias against them.

            Who do I overvalue? Stasny and Bieska are plugs. No bending over to get them.

            I’m fine with JML for Gleason because it’s a mutual fit put McKegg in that deal and it’s no deal because I actually acknowledge that McKegg brings value and not a disposable throw in give away prize.

        • leafs_wallace93 says:

          Statsny was a guy Colorado couldn’t give away last year as all off season who will get massively overpaid this off season because he’s playing over his head in a contract year. He’s also too slow, I expect him to be Jason Allison 2.0 given his foot speed will only get worse as he ages.

          Gleason is buried on a terrible blueline. At least JML has other quality push rushers to compete for a job with. Gleason is more expensive, JML is supposed to be a salary dump. If anything I want a pick on top of Gleason to give Carolina a player they can use. Let alone hand over a center prospect when we’re hard up for organizational depth???

          Bieska for a top three center (no already), a good glue guy blueliner that is cheaper and younger and a prospect that has made himself
          intriguing. No thank you.

          But let’s be the same organization that trades picks and guts prospect depth for average players. Hell bring Kristich out of retirement.

          • realistic_leafs_fan says:

            Dude, I didn’t say I wanted to trade Luongo, Higgins Kassian for Kessel. I said if Toronto wanted Luongo, Vancouver would want Kessel and I could only handle it if we got more than just Luongo and proposed the rest.
            As for the rest of your stuff. I actually value Gunnar, not so much Bozak, as I feel we don’t need him, but Vancouver could use him.
            Bieksa is a playoff beast and waaaay under rated by you. Stastny is way better than you give him credit for as well. I wonder how he got the same money as Phaneuf if he sucks so bad. Also, didn’t Calgary have trouble moving Phaneuf? I guess Phaneuf must suck to then. Gleason would actually play on the Leafs, unlike Liles. But hey, lets do it your way, keep everyone that has a glimmer of hope at playing for the Leafs over proven players, because you never know, they may make the team someday.
            McKegg, Percy and Brennan have little value to the Leafs as too many are ahead of them on the depth chart. They may be attractive to someone else, but for the Leafs, likely career minor leaguers. Fraser becomes expendable with Gleason in the mix. You say the Av’s couldn’t give away Stastny, but you don’t want to trade Liles, a guy the Leafs can’t give away.
            As for trades suggested like Kassian.
            Let’s not forget, of the few you have proposed…I seem to remember you following up mine with Reimer, Kadri, Bozak or something like that for Cory Schneider. Hey, how is Schneider doing? Talk about an overpayment and buying the hype on one good season.

            • realistic_leafs_fan says:

              Stastny 415 pts a +7 in 488 career games. I will take that horrible production all day long, especially when you consider how bad the Av’s have been the past couple of seasons.
              Comparing Statny’s skating to Allison is just ridiculous.
              I only hope Kadri sucks bad enough to put up those kind of numbers and lead well enough to become an assistant captain in T.O.

            • leafs_wallace93 says:

              Bieska also was a scapegoat give away machine last post season, do you think he could survive in Toronto? He’d get eat alive in a month. It’d be like Phaneuf without the offense. He’s a fine player ok, so was Kubina and Beuchemin and Komisarek…. Bieska is of this ilk.

              Statsny is a flavor of the month. Two years of rumors and no one really wanting him now after a good month and a half he has value? Myopic.

              Way to nail me, I guess we shouldn’t hand away unproven prospects for hacks. At least I wasn’t giving up our franchise proven player for an over the hill tender is one of the worst contracts in the league.

              We have tons of guys ahead of McKegg? Like who? The guy playing in the Q? We have someone better than Percy on the Marlies?

              Gut the system for Bieska and Gleason? Ok, JFJ great plan.

              • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                haha I’m JFJ?…Bozak, Kadri, Reimer for Schneider sounds pretty JFJ.
                What’s your next one? Rielly, Gardiner and Bernier for Subban?

                • leafs_wallace93 says:

                  Kadri was looking like a busted prospect and Reimer was coming off a terrible season after his injury. Who would miss Bozak.

                  But ignore context

                  • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                    Ignore context?lol
                    You have Bieksa a playoff bust from one bad playoffs compared to most seasons in which he is vital. Henae why he logs over 25mins a night in the playoffs. You idolize Phaneuf, even though his last playoffs were…kind of brutal with bad giveaways. You ignore the fact that Liles is in the minors. McKegg, Percy, Brennan…all in the minors with little chance of being called up or making the team with the youth depth of the Leafs. Bozak, as you said, who would miss him? Raymond, a UFA who will want a big raise and we likely won’t re-sign who is also playing above his normal(which is what you complain about Stastny). Fraser, not as good as Gleason and injury prone this year. Gunnar is a loss for sure, but with Bieksa and Gleason joining…I think we will survive. Biekas also allows Phaneuf to play the left side which Gunnar is not able to do. All the players I suggested trading for, would actually play regularily for the Leafs, not the farm system.
                    Plus you compared Bieksa to Komisarek…no need to say anymore there.

                    • leafs_wallace93 says:

                      Idolize Phaneuf, dude you’re just reaching, again you confuse the fact that I don’t blindly despise him or Bozak to idolizing them, lol.

                      You make way too big a deal out of the RHD issue.

                      Lose prospects to exchange depth players? No thank you.

                    • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                      You might be the only person I know that would call Stastny and Bieksa “depth players” but everyone would call Brennan, Fraser, Raymond and probably Liles and Bozak depth players. The only non-depth would be Gunnar really. The rest are replaceable. No one would even give Raymond a contract two months ago. No one wants Liles. Percy and McKegg may end up being something half decent. Fraser is a 5-6 guy at best. Blindly despise?…you did some blind despising of Phaneuf in the playoffs as I remember where you severely doubted him, but you got over it pretty quick. We do need one more good RHD, Phaneuf is horrible o his backhand and I can’t believe someone would argue that.

                  • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                    So because you missed judged their talent makes it ok?

          • mapleleafsfan says:

            Stastny has always had pretty solid numbers when his linemates haven’t been awful. Hell, Duchene’s name was thrown around last year that team was so bad, he looks absolutely elite this year with better linemates and a new system.

            I agree that he will get overpaid, and the price might not be worth it. But we if we can shed Bozaks salary, as long as it’s not a ridiculous amount more than that, I think it could be worth it. He brings everything Bozak does without being a black hole offensively. He’s definitely not the fastest, but he’s not brutally slow. Jason Allison was hilarious, that guy was literally skating in molasses.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      Not to mention, you’re trade 9 players for 3 in three separate deals, that’s disgusting asset management.

      • realistic_leafs_fan says:

        It’s actually 8, but
        So 3 good assets for 1 is bad asset management?
        Wasn’t your trade 3 for 1?

        • leafs_wallace93 says:

          Still harping on a trade I suggested a year ago that I posted in reaction to your’s? Do I routinely make these proposals?

          I’m not defending Kadri, Bozak and Riemer for Schnieder. Bad suggestion.

          Three deals in which we give up more assets though? Yes, according to any GM or scout in the league I’d imagine they’d cringe.

          • realistic_leafs_fan says:

            Actually man, I think these trades (that keep getting brought up) were over 2 years ago now, believe it or not;)
            I doubt any GM or scout would cringe at giving up assets depending on where the team was in their build stage. Toronto is done re-building, they want to be a contender. This is why Clarkson and Bolland are brought in. This is when moves for veteran up-grades and only moving younger assets are made. No top assets were moved. Kadri, Rielly, Gardiner, Gauthier, etc all stayed to keep us strong in the future. No young core guys moved either.
            These are actually the moves a GM or scout in the Leafs position would love to pull off. Keep all young top talent and gain more solid veteran leaders who can play big roles and are not too old. All trades were made from a position of strength without mortgaging the future. Look what the Penguins did last year bringing in Murray and Iginla. Hawks just brought back Versteeg. Kings went after Richards and Carter on their cup run and sent back good young talent. Three deals would be unusual, but the Liles deal is mostly just trading of contracts for different style players. The other 2 are not much different than what L.A did with Carter/Richards.

  10. mapleleafsfan says:

    The west is absolutely insane this year. The first place Eastern team wouldn’t even be in a playoff spot. Even after the avs red hot start they’re still only in 5th without having hit a really rough spot yet. Crazy.

  11. doorman says:

    Ok, so for all those who are unimpressed with Carlyle, which I have no problem with as each to their own. Who would you replace him with?

    • reinjosh says:

      Kevin Constantine from the Everett Silvertips would be a guy I’d like to give a chance(although he just rejoined the silvertips this year, doubtful he wants to move).

      But I’d say my three top choices would be Steve Spott, Mike Johnston from the Portland Winterhawks, and Bob Boughner from the Spitfires.

      • blaze says:

        I’m very hesitant to throw a rookie coach into this market. Recipe for disaster in my opinion.

        • reinjosh says:

          I have no issue with a rookie coach. In fact I’d prefer it. I’m done with the old guard always getting the leg up on coaching positions. This is a different NHL and old ideas aren’t as relevant anymore. I’m less worried about the pressure. If he’s considered for the job, he’ll understand what he’s getting himself into.

          Only Spott of those three doesn’t have NHL experience. Boughner has a year with Columbus as an assistant. And Johnston has a lot of assistant experience. All three have international experience and all have developed very successful Junior programs.

          I think any one of the three could be a very could candidate to replace Carlyle.

        • lafleur10 says:

          your absolutely right montreal and toronto are the worst places for a rookie head coach.

    • mapleleafsfan says:

      Gordon Bombay.

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