Sather Strikes Back

After completing a heavily lopsided deal with the Pittsburgh Penguins to acquire Alexi Kovalev, many GMs/Personnel in the NHL decided to voice their opinion on the trade and how it “destroys the system.” Glen Sather came out and has told the people of Toronto to stop whining.

Source:http://www.faceoff.com/home/news/story.html?f=/news/20030214/030214News1201134.html

NEW YORK

New York Rangers GM Glen Sather scoffs at those who criticize him for throwing cash at the Pittsburgh Penguins to clinch an eight-player trade that brought Alexei Kovalev to New York.

The Rangers reportedly added a payment of nearly $4 million US to get it done. New York’s player payroll now is estimated to be about $74 million US.

“Why is it bad for the league? Stuff like that . . . that’s always the way it is,” Sather told the New York Post.

Toronto Maple Leafs executive Bill Watters has said his team offered players to Pittsburgh that were better than those accepted by the Rangers, only to see the deep-pocketed New Yorkers prevail again.

“The guys in Toronto whine,” said Sather. “Listen, they’ve been in every deal we’ve been in trying to get players.

“We end up getting the guy because the guy wants to come to New York. Part of the deal was Alexei wanted to come back. So they whine, but they were in the deal. They just didn’t want to give enough to get him. Depends on how badly you want him. It’s free enterprise. That’s how the U.S. works.”

I’m glad Slats did this. Bobby Clarke went out and called this trade a non-credible hockey deal since the Rangers gave up close to $4,000,000 US. Excuse me Mr. Clarke…what about the whopping $15,000,000 your organization tossed in with numerous players in order to land Eric Lindros. As soon as the Rangers acquired Kovalev, I quickly went to the Toronto Maple Leafs website and saw that the bitter TML organization stated “just because the Rangers acquired Alex Kovalev, doesn’t mean they will make the playoffs.” Yes, this is true, but after almost a month of hearing Leaf_”Expert” talking about how the Leafs could only get Kovalev I completely lost it. Next up is Owen Nolan for the Leafs. I hate to be Pat Quinn at this point with all the heat going straight at him. Of course money is an issue, but when is TO going to jump into the stakes for a Cup push..not just a playoff birth?

mikster

-Quote from my TFP article on the Kovalev trade:

I look at the trade this way. When suffering of dehydration, it is better to accept water instead of gold. Rangers offered water, Maples Leafs offered gold.

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/nyr17.html


84 Responses to Sather Strikes Back

  1. Flyers_01 says:

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    Rangers forward Eric Lindros — who had his first point in four games — drew Sather’s wrath.

    “We’ve put him on different lines and in different positions,” he said. “He’s struggling. Maybe I’ll move him into the crowd if he doesn’t start playing better. We have to get some results out of him.”

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  2. WeStSiDe says:

    Oh ya… LOL why you defending that fucker, he is a hipocrite, when he was in Edmonton, bitching, now he is the laughing stock of the NHL, highest payroll and yet they cant even make the playoffs.. That is a poorly runned to anyway you put it.. Did you see the signing bonuses Holik and Kasp got?? By no means would I want sather to suck my cock but you gotta think 2 million?? J/K lol

  3. mikster says:

    Linden was captain.

  4. mikster says:

    Well you said that the minor league is ranked 28th, and that’s not true. You meant prospect depth chart.

    If Blackburn wasn’t good enough to play in the NHL, then the Rangers would be top 15 in those ranks since few teams have that kind of goalie prospect.

    Quinn has been in charge, and he brought in some great players from the outside, but his prospects haven’t made the team, even if his drafting has been very solid in the past 2 seasons.

    Sather came in the Rangers with lousy players that were overpaid and therefore, he couldn;t trade them, like Kamensky…Lefebvre, Fleury.

    You just misplaced facts.

    Sather’s drafting is good. He’s picked up a future goalie, future number one, two d-man that won a Gold Medal, Kloucek type d-men that (physical stay at home d-men). He will draft a sniper this year.

    This year’s draft could easily put the Rangers in the top 20 or 15. They change every year.

  5. mikster says:

    Pleaseeeeeee…..Joe Michelleti is the biggest whiner pro Isle’s and completely biased announcer. Anything that hurts an Islander “Oh…that’s a cheap shot”.

    He was the biggest whiner in last year’s playoffs.

  6. Aetherial says:

    This makes me laugh. Mikster makes me laugh even more. It is one thing to listen to this crap. It is another to buy it!

    Between this article and TFP the whole thing is getting nauseating.

    This is nothing more than a weak attempt to deflect the attention back to the Leafs because they are everyone in the US’ favorite team to hate.

    The truth is, the Rangers ARE trying to buy a championship.

    Oh and I am sick of this “we haven’t played with a 80 million payroll all year because of injuries.

    SMART GM’s and teams really part of your payroll is trying to build a team with the depth to overcome. Look at the Leafs in last year’s playoffs… The rangers have not been decimated that much. Granted they have had bad luck wth injuries but so what?

    Sather is ruining the Rangers. They ARE a joke, HE has become a joke. He can deflect the attention all he wants but the Rangers are the team MOST guilty of driving up salaries.

    Mikster, you need to get a grip your defense of the Kovalev trade and the Rangers activities is nothing short of stupid.

  7. Aetherial says:

    This makes me laugh. Mikster makes me laugh even more. It is one thing to listen to this crap. It is another to buy it!

    Between this article and TFP the whole thing is getting nauseating.

    This is nothing more than a weak attempt to deflect the attention back to the Leafs because they are everyone in the US’ favorite team to hate.

    The truth is, the Rangers ARE trying to buy a championship.

    Oh and I am sick of this “we haven’t played with a 80 million payroll all year because of injuries.

    SMART GM’s and teams really part of your payroll is trying to build a team with the depth to overcome. Look at the Leafs in last year’s playoffs… The rangers have not been decimated that much. Granted they have had bad luck wth injuries but so what?

    Sather is ruining the Rangers. They ARE a joke, HE has become a joke. He can deflect the attention all he wants but the Rangers are the team MOST guilty of driving up salaries.

    Mikster, you need to get a grip your defense of the Kovalev trade and the Rangers activities is nothing short of stupid.

  8. Aetherial says:

    This makes me laugh. Mikster makes me laugh even more. It is one thing to listen to this crap. It is another to buy it!

    Between this article and TFP the whole thing is getting nauseating.

    This is nothing more than a weak attempt to deflect the attention back to the Leafs because they are everyone in the US’ favorite team to hate.

    The truth is, the Rangers ARE trying to buy a championship.

    Oh and I am sick of this “we haven’t played with a 80 million payroll all year because of injuries.

    SMART GM’s and teams really part of your payroll is trying to build a team with the depth to overcome. Look at the Leafs in last year’s playoffs… The rangers have not been decimated that much. Granted they have had bad luck wth injuries but so what?

    Sather is ruining the Rangers. They ARE a joke, HE has become a joke. He can deflect the attention all he wants but the Rangers are the team MOST guilty of driving up salaries.

    Mikster, you need to get a grip your defense of the Kovalev trade and the Rangers activities is nothing short of stupid.

  9. Aetherial says:

    This makes me laugh. Mikster makes me laugh even more. It is one thing to listen to this crap. It is another to buy it!

    Between this article and TFP the whole thing is getting nauseating.

    This is nothing more than a weak attempt to deflect the attention back to the Leafs because they are everyone in the US’ favorite team to hate.

    The truth is, the Rangers ARE trying to buy a championship.

    Oh and I am sick of this “we haven’t played with a 80 million payroll all year because of injuries.

    SMART GM’s and teams really part of your payroll is trying to build a team with the depth to overcome. Look at the Leafs in last year’s playoffs… The rangers have not been decimated that much. Granted they have had bad luck wth injuries but so what?

    Sather is ruining the Rangers. They ARE a joke, HE has become a joke. He can deflect the attention all he wants but the Rangers are the team MOST guilty of driving up salaries.

    Mikster, you need to get a grip your defense of the Kovalev trade and the Rangers activities is nothing short of stupid.

  10. Aetherial says:

    This makes me laugh. Mikster makes me laugh even more. It is one thing to listen to this crap. It is another to buy it!

    Between this article and TFP the whole thing is getting nauseating.

    This is nothing more than a weak attempt to deflect the attention back to the Leafs because they are everyone in the US’ favorite team to hate.

    The truth is, the Rangers ARE trying to buy a championship.

    Oh and I am sick of this “we haven’t played with a 80 million payroll all year because of injuries.

    SMART GM’s and teams really part of your payroll is trying to build a team with the depth to overcome. Look at the Leafs in last year’s playoffs… The rangers have not been decimated that much. Granted they have had bad luck wth injuries but so what?

    Sather is ruining the Rangers. They ARE a joke, HE has become a joke. He can deflect the attention all he wants but the Rangers are the team MOST guilty of driving up salaries.

    Mikster, you need to get a grip your defense of the Kovalev trade and the Rangers activities is nothing short of stupid.

  11. Aetherial says:

    This makes me laugh. Mikster makes me laugh even more. It is one thing to listen to this crap. It is another to buy it!

    Between this article and TFP the whole thing is getting nauseating.

    This is nothing more than a weak attempt to deflect the attention back to the Leafs because they are everyone in the US’ favorite team to hate.

    The truth is, the Rangers ARE trying to buy a championship.

    Oh and I am sick of this “we haven’t played with a 80 million payroll all year because of injuries.

    SMART GM’s and teams really part of your payroll is trying to build a team with the depth to overcome. Look at the Leafs in last year’s playoffs… The rangers have not been decimated that much. Granted they have had bad luck wth injuries but so what?

    Sather is ruining the Rangers. They ARE a joke, HE has become a joke. He can deflect the attention all he wants but the Rangers are the team MOST guilty of driving up salaries.

    Mikster, you need to get a grip your defense of the Kovalev trade and the Rangers activities is nothing short of stupid.

  12. Aetherial says:

    This makes me laugh. Mikster makes me laugh even more. It is one thing to listen to this crap. It is another to buy it!

    Between this article and TFP the whole thing is getting nauseating.

    This is nothing more than a weak attempt to deflect the attention back to the Leafs because they are everyone in the US’ favorite team to hate.

    The truth is, the Rangers ARE trying to buy a championship.

    Oh and I am sick of this “we haven’t played with a 80 million payroll all year because of injuries.

    SMART GM’s and teams really part of your payroll is trying to build a team with the depth to overcome. Look at the Leafs in last year’s playoffs… The rangers have not been decimated that much. Granted they have had bad luck wth injuries but so what?

    Sather is ruining the Rangers. They ARE a joke, HE has become a joke. He can deflect the attention all he wants but the Rangers are the team MOST guilty of driving up salaries.

    Mikster, you need to get a grip your defense of the Kovalev trade and the Rangers activities is nothing short of stupid.

  13. DG says:

    You can have an opinion, though please don’t post it eight times.

    -DG

    Vice-Admin

  14. DG says:

    I won’t just tell him…I’ll rub it in his face. 28 points? My goodness….

    -DG

  15. mikster says:

    Pretty much a clueless opinion…

    nothing to agree or disagree about it.

  16. beckfan says:

    And Bure was still in Vancouver when Florida went to the cup finals.

  17. amok says:

    Pavel might have bad luck in that’s he’s played on some piss-poor teams, but when he’s one of the top point producers you can find.

    ’92: 10 points, 13 games

    ’93: 12 points, 12 games

    ’94: 31 points, 24 games

    ’95: 13 points, 11 games

    ’00: 4 points, 4 games

    Staying healthy is another matter, but there’s nothing wrong with this guy’s “playoff talent”.

  18. amok says:

    He probably only hit the post button once, but sometimes the site goes screwy and things get posted multiple times. It happened to me a few days ago and I’ve noticed it happen to others as well.

  19. beckfan says:

    Who exactly are those five decent draft pics your talking about?

  20. Captain27 says:

    How in God’s name does a team with an $80 Million payroll have NO DEPTH whatsoever?

    Teams with ONE-HALF of the Rangers combined payroll can roll FOUR STRONG LINES…how come the Rangers can only roll THREE?

    This is beyond absurd…they blow their proverbial payroll load on like 5 or 6 players, and the rest are just a bunch of overglorified AHL’ers.

    I personally can’t complain or whine about the Rangers’ spending, because it hasn’t helped them since 1994 and I, as an Islander fan, enjoy watching them flop around looking for the next big aging UFA who will “save” them from futility.

    This team has:

    Bure

    Kovalev

    Lindros

    Holik

    Messier

    Nedved

    Leetch

    Mironov

    Poti

    Malakhov

    Kasparaitis

    Dunham

    Richter

    They have TEN, yes, TEN former all-stars on their team, yet they sit at 11th in the East?

    Why? I don’t understand it. Maybe trading Lundmark, Blackburn and Tyutin for Iginla will solve their defensive problems (rolls eyes).

  21. r_milley says:

    Number of playoff wins for Pat Quinn in Toronto: 37

    Number of playoff wins for Sather in NY: 0

    Sather is a hypocrite. HE was the one whining when he was in Edmonton losing player after player because of the tight budget he was on. Now because he’s in New York it’s “free enterprise”

    I once had respect for Sather, I dont anymore. I dont care what he said about the Leafs, not the first to absh the Leafs(jealousy?) and he wont be the last. Funny how you dont see Pierre Lacriox or Ken Holland or Lou Lamoriello making these comments, and they’re about the only ones with the success to say them.

    The New York Rangers are ruining hockey, if anyone cant see that then they should take off their Ranger jersey and look around the league.

  22. rooney says:

    when sather was in edmonton he hated how the rangers bought players. i agree that the trade was bad for hockey. i am a devils fan so i am not jealous of the rangers or leafs. leafs cant cry about spending money. they spend alot themselves. if the devils had the money toronto has or the rangers they woulod be a dynasty. i do believe hockey needs a salary cap. hockey will turn into baseball soon. the 2 best gm’s in hockey or lacroix from the avs and lamorillo from the devils. free agent after free agent leave the devils and we are in the top 3 teams over the last 10 years

  23. Tradedude says:

    Hey no complaints here on Bure. It’s just play-off success.

    Sather needs to get his thumb out of his ass, and start realizing that blowing money on players that won’t lead you to a play-offs (yes, Kovalev is great, but he’ll rarely get noticed as he will get less ice-time i n New York). Sure, Kovy gets to see his wife more often in New York, but if you want success, and not just whining, and complaining and bitching at other teams such as the leafs, it just puts lotta pressure on Kovy.

    Kovy will probably sign with a team that could afford him, maybe he’ll re-sign, but I dunno, does he know that the Rangers will never make the play-offs and always be considered ‘over-rated, over-payed players.

    o in that last message i posted, i meant Rangers SHOULD KEEP HIM, not shouldnt, whoops, my mistake, lol.

  24. Tradedude says:

    I compare the rangers with buffalo, sooner or later the rangers will run out of cash and blame sum1 for it, and go bankrupcy. Some Day, but I dunno.

  25. isles4life says:

    First of all Howie Rose is the commentator and not Joe Michelleti is just the side kick.Oh by the way…who did Howie play for.You can actually tell me Rose is biast and I will tell you your full of Sh$t.JD is the worst commentator in pro Hockey.He makes Melrose look like a superstar.They dont even call the game half the time.Just some mindless jabber.JD F^CKS up half the opposing teams players all the time.What kind of commentator doesnt even do his research.Give me a break Mikster…You got to do better than that.JD is just as good a commentator as he was a goalie.Old time Ranger fans didnt even like him when he played for you.

  26. Aetherial says:

    ACK!

    My apologies. I kept getting page cannot be displayed error messages and I was unaware that it was posting this all those times.

    Ugh 🙁

    Is there any way to delete the extraneous posts?

  27. Aetherial says:

    Yeah I am clueless that the Rangers are buying every free agent they can get their hands on.

    yeah I am clueless that OTHER teams have to deal with injuries.

    Yeah I am clueless about the gross overpaying of certain Ranger players.

    Yeah I am clueless that other GM’s in hockey think the Penguin deal was total BS

    Yeah Mikster I am clueless. Nice rebuttal, you really put up a good arguement there.

    How about you debate whether other teams with injuries can’t overcome… debate it with a Leaf fan maybe.

    Clueless? The Rangers are a joke. Just like the Yankees in baseball. I hope they go trade whoever for Iginla!

    Let’s see them run up their payroll to double any other team and STILL miss the playoffs!!

    YOU Mikster, are clueless because you are a Ranger fan. Clearly you lack any sort of ability to be objective. Strange, considering you try to be a *journalist* in some cases.

  28. mikster says:

    Richter out for season

    Bure still out

    Leetch missed 31 games

    Holik 20 games

    4 d-men in total missed 20 games.

    Injuries aren’t an excuse…but a reason, and look at LA as another example. The Isle’s w/o Peca…

  29. wingerxx says:

    Pat Quinn has been in Toronto a lot longer than Slats has been in NY. And he didn’t have to clean up the mess of one of the worst GM’s the sport has ever seen. Sather doesn’t care about the opinions of others. He just wants in the playoffs and it took guts for him to come behind the bench of a team he created.

  30. The_Coach says:

    Wow, what a lame attempt to deflect criticism of an out-of-touch GM and a team full of players that respect money more then they respect themselves.

    Please Mikster, don’t give us that injury crap. Did you not watch last years playoffs when the Leafs made it to the conference finals minus 10 regulars. Injuries are part of the game, the difference for the Rangers is that once injured those players would rather sit on the sidelines and collect a check for past successes.

  31. OldTimeHockey_28 says:

    Does anybody agree that the reason Toronto is seen as such whiners is the fact they get the most coverage in the NHL.

    They are the only team covered by American TV at all. The only american teams they follow down there are the ones that are winning oh and the rangers.

    I agree that the leafs do whine, but I’m sure Bill Watters was not the only one to say that this move was bullsh*t. And I’m sure that Mr. Sather only heard the part of the interview(if he even heard it)when Watters stated he felt Toronto had a better offer. He did not listen to the rest of the interview where Watters went on to say that Pittsburgh had to do what was right for them. And if the 4 million was better than so be it.

    And Toronto did not hold off because of the 4 million. You have to figure it would of added about 8 million for the rest of this season, with Kovalev’s half salary and the other 3 players as well plus the 4 million up front.

    And anyhow, isn’t this over now. Kovalev is happy in NY. Good for him. I’m pretty sure if Pitts wanted the Toronto offer they wouldn’t of said no so Kovalev could go back to NY.

    Why don’t we drop it, move on and enjoy the trades to come.

    NOTE TO GLEN: Yeah that’s how the US works. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer. And that’s why the entire country is sliding out of control and will go into one of the greatest depressions ever.

  32. Aetherial says:

    I disagree.

    When Pat Quinn came to Toronto they had almost NO prospects. They were missing draft picks and were not serious contenders.

    Now they ARE serious contenders, they have their draft picks, theyhave a few good young players in the NHL and some good young players in the minors. They had the MOST juniors at this year’s world juniors.

    Pat Quinn may not have made the big trades but he has done EXACTLY what he had to do…

    Make a few trades

    Sign some UFA’s

    Keep and develop the teams youth.

    They are WAY WAY better off then they were before Quinn and the Rangers are WAY worse off now than they were when they won the cup.

    Not sure if Sather’s effect has been good or bad. They have so many stars now that the jury iss till out on them. I do know he hasn’t made any playoffs and he certainly hasn’t brightened the teams future from a youth standpoint.

  33. NYRbure9 says:

    you guys are all pathetic. i agree that the rangers throwing money around is bad for hockey, but that doesnt mean they shouldnt. if pittsburgh had the money, or calgary or tampa bay, im sure they would do the same thing. i am a rangers fan and a very pissed off one. kovalev trade was amazing, but now i hear about iginla? i want him but not for blackburn. i hope they dont deal the ONLY piece of their future who will be an all-star. i do want iginla though. greedy am i? no im just a rangers fan! im sorry toronto, i know u wanted eric and alexei, but you will have to watch them in red, white and blue for the rest of their careers. If you have the money, then spend it! its not new york’s fault that the “loyal” fans in ottawa can’t support a team, so stop bad mouthing us and get a life. peace out.

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