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		<title>By: MAniac29</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 16:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wrote this article last year, I don&#039;t know if you were around then or not, or if you maybe read it, or not, but here it is, I didn&#039;t re-read it or anything, I just pasted it her in and thought I&#039;d let you read if you were interested...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A Negative Look at the Wings, Finally. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Kraftster writes &quot;I was debating about whether to write this article for some time, but thanks to the comment debate I got into with Freeze the other day, I realized it was time. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Everybody bickering non-stop about the New York Rangers all year long. Everyone saying that Sather is ruining the league. Well maybe it is time that we look at the detrimental effect the Red Wings organization is having on the NHL, and their recent drafting ineptitude. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Two points to be explored. The first of which regards the Red Wings drafting ability, which I find to be POOR recently. This opinion obviously met with opposition in my comments thanks to the likes of Datsyuk and Zetterberg. I did say RECENT so Yzerman, Federov, and Lidstrom are out. The drafting situation leads perfectly into the second point, that Detroit disregards it&#039;s franchise future and is quite comfortable in doing so. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Looking at Detroits picks from 1993-1997, you&#039;ll find Holmstrom and Dandenault, and that&#039;s about it! Personally I don&#039;t even see either of those picks enough to sufficently call them a good drafting team. 1998 Jiri Fischer become a Wing, undoubtedly a good pick, along with Pavel Datsyuk in the late 6th round, quite a steal. 1999 Detroit took Zetterberg late in the 7th round, another impressive find based on this years performance. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Finding Datsyuk and Zetterberg in the later rounds, hardly justifies the other poor picks by Detroit. Drafting late is definitley a quality any decent drafting team must have, and it is shown here, but again this is over a 7 year period. 3 players in 7 years...hmm?? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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What about all the first round choices you may be asking. Well in 1997, that first rounder was traded, in 1999, Detroit&#039;s 1st, 2nd, &amp; 3rd round picks...gone. That leaves Andres Erikson 1993, Yan Golubovsky 1994, Maxim Kuznetsov 1995, Jesse Wallin 1996. Wallin has played his fair share of games in a Detroit uniform, but is nothing special. Golubovsky played in all of 50 career games. Some may contend that Erikson and Kuznetsov were used in trades to acquire veteran players (Chelios, Schneider), but I don&#039;t think they should be listed as good picks at all. The reason I don&#039;t agree with putting guys like Kuznetsov and Erikson as quality picks is that on one level I am referring to the talent of the players chosen. (I realize they have been traded for good players, BUT that is along with other picks or players as well, neither was the selling point of the trade, but big time props to detroit for pulling off the deals). BUT, as far as talent, Erikson really has never been steady anywhere, and Kuz. was drafted 7 years ago and is just now cracking through. I realize Det. has had strong Dmen over the years, but a first round guy should be someone in a lineup sooner than 7 years. On another level, this is supporting the notion that Detroit disregards it&#039;s future. Trading Erikson, Kuz, and Avery (undrafted) does nothing but support that point I am trying to make. If they were traded because Detroit saw something bad about them, it only supports that they were not strong draft picks, while if they traded them DESPITE them being strong players, it supports not caring about the future young core of players. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I definitely know that Detroit has lower first round picks every year, and I&#039;ll further allow that having said later picks makes it hard to find &quot;premier&quot; talent. But to dispell the ability of Detroit fans to get off on the late pick line, a brief look at late first round picks around the league: &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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1993: Koivu (21), Bertuzzi (23), Kevyn Adams (25) -- Erikson (22) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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1995: Sykora (18), Denis Gauthier (20), Sean Brown (21), Alex Morozov (24), Marc Denis (25) --Max. Kuz. (26) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
1996: Marco Sturm (21), Daniel Briere (24), Cory Sarich (27) -- Jesse Wallin (26) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
1997: TRADED! Morrow (25), Clymer (27), Huselius (47) -- Butsayev (49) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
1998: Jiri Fischer (GREAT PICK), Gagne (22), Gomez (27) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
1999: TRADED 1st, 2nd, 3rd PICKS! Boynton (21), Havlat (26), Ahonen (27)... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
2000: Justin Williams (28), Nick Shultz (33) -- Nik Kronwall (29) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I am in no way directly comparing what Detroit is doing to the Rangers, but I do think that it is not all that good of a thing. With all the questions surrounding CuJo, will Detroit draft one of the many goalie prospects in this years draft to take over? In all likelihood I would say, no. Definitely not with their 1st round pick this year or 2nd next year, those both belong to the LA Kings. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t see Detroit worrying one bit about their future. I think they will be comfortable to go out and find whatever goalie is on the market when Joseph&#039;s time is up, whether that be in the offseason or in a deadline deal. Promotion of no need to build a team through the draft doesn&#039;t seem like something beneficial to the rest of the league. At least not to me... &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Don&#039;t get me wrong, Detroit is getting the job done, but I don&#039;t really care for the way they are doing it. I actually hope it comes back to bite them in the near future (post-cba most likely). Let the comments begin!! &quot; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote this article last year, I don&#8217;t know if you were around then or not, or if you maybe read it, or not, but here it is, I didn&#8217;t re-read it or anything, I just pasted it her in and thought I&#8217;d let you read if you were interested&#8230;</p>
<p>A Negative Look at the Wings, Finally. </p>
<p>Kraftster writes &#8220;I was debating about whether to write this article for some time, but thanks to the comment debate I got into with Freeze the other day, I realized it was time. </p>
<p>Everybody bickering non-stop about the New York Rangers all year long. Everyone saying that Sather is ruining the league. Well maybe it is time that we look at the detrimental effect the Red Wings organization is having on the NHL, and their recent drafting ineptitude. </p>
<p>Two points to be explored. The first of which regards the Red Wings drafting ability, which I find to be POOR recently. This opinion obviously met with opposition in my comments thanks to the likes of Datsyuk and Zetterberg. I did say RECENT so Yzerman, Federov, and Lidstrom are out. The drafting situation leads perfectly into the second point, that Detroit disregards it&#8217;s franchise future and is quite comfortable in doing so. </p>
<p>Looking at Detroits picks from 1993-1997, you&#8217;ll find Holmstrom and Dandenault, and that&#8217;s about it! Personally I don&#8217;t even see either of those picks enough to sufficently call them a good drafting team. 1998 Jiri Fischer become a Wing, undoubtedly a good pick, along with Pavel Datsyuk in the late 6th round, quite a steal. 1999 Detroit took Zetterberg late in the 7th round, another impressive find based on this years performance. </p>
<p>Finding Datsyuk and Zetterberg in the later rounds, hardly justifies the other poor picks by Detroit. Drafting late is definitley a quality any decent drafting team must have, and it is shown here, but again this is over a 7 year period. 3 players in 7 years&#8230;hmm?? </p>
<p>What about all the first round choices you may be asking. Well in 1997, that first rounder was traded, in 1999, Detroit&#8217;s 1st, 2nd, &#038; 3rd round picks&#8230;gone. That leaves Andres Erikson 1993, Yan Golubovsky 1994, Maxim Kuznetsov 1995, Jesse Wallin 1996. Wallin has played his fair share of games in a Detroit uniform, but is nothing special. Golubovsky played in all of 50 career games. Some may contend that Erikson and Kuznetsov were used in trades to acquire veteran players (Chelios, Schneider), but I don&#8217;t think they should be listed as good picks at all. The reason I don&#8217;t agree with putting guys like Kuznetsov and Erikson as quality picks is that on one level I am referring to the talent of the players chosen. (I realize they have been traded for good players, BUT that is along with other picks or players as well, neither was the selling point of the trade, but big time props to detroit for pulling off the deals). BUT, as far as talent, Erikson really has never been steady anywhere, and Kuz. was drafted 7 years ago and is just now cracking through. I realize Det. has had strong Dmen over the years, but a first round guy should be someone in a lineup sooner than 7 years. On another level, this is supporting the notion that Detroit disregards it&#8217;s future. Trading Erikson, Kuz, and Avery (undrafted) does nothing but support that point I am trying to make. If they were traded because Detroit saw something bad about them, it only supports that they were not strong draft picks, while if they traded them DESPITE them being strong players, it supports not caring about the future young core of players. </p>
<p>I definitely know that Detroit has lower first round picks every year, and I&#8217;ll further allow that having said later picks makes it hard to find &#8220;premier&#8221; talent. But to dispell the ability of Detroit fans to get off on the late pick line, a brief look at late first round picks around the league: </p>
<p>1993: Koivu (21), Bertuzzi (23), Kevyn Adams (25) &#8212; Erikson (22) </p>
<p>1995: Sykora (18), Denis Gauthier (20), Sean Brown (21), Alex Morozov (24), Marc Denis (25) &#8211;Max. Kuz. (26) </p>
<p>1996: Marco Sturm (21), Daniel Briere (24), Cory Sarich (27) &#8212; Jesse Wallin (26) </p>
<p>1997: TRADED! Morrow (25), Clymer (27), Huselius (47) &#8212; Butsayev (49) </p>
<p>1998: Jiri Fischer (GREAT PICK), Gagne (22), Gomez (27) </p>
<p>1999: TRADED 1st, 2nd, 3rd PICKS! Boynton (21), Havlat (26), Ahonen (27)&#8230; </p>
<p>2000: Justin Williams (28), Nick Shultz (33) &#8212; Nik Kronwall (29) </p>
<p>I am in no way directly comparing what Detroit is doing to the Rangers, but I do think that it is not all that good of a thing. With all the questions surrounding CuJo, will Detroit draft one of the many goalie prospects in this years draft to take over? In all likelihood I would say, no. Definitely not with their 1st round pick this year or 2nd next year, those both belong to the LA Kings. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see Detroit worrying one bit about their future. I think they will be comfortable to go out and find whatever goalie is on the market when Joseph&#8217;s time is up, whether that be in the offseason or in a deadline deal. Promotion of no need to build a team through the draft doesn&#8217;t seem like something beneficial to the rest of the league. At least not to me&#8230; </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Detroit is getting the job done, but I don&#8217;t really care for the way they are doing it. I actually hope it comes back to bite them in the near future (post-cba most likely). Let the comments begin!! &#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: TC_4</title>
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		<dc:creator>TC_4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Defense is fine, but most teams basically cheat anymore with how much stick work they use.]]></description>
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		<title>By: MAniac29</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAniac29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I gotta run right now, but please check back later tonight, I&#039;ll have LOTS to say about the wings!]]></description>
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		<title>By: leviate</title>
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		<dc:creator>leviate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 13:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that some playoff teams should be contracted.  Anaheim has typically been at the bottom in attendence figures, and once people realize last years playoff run will not happen again, this years attendence will go down again.  And the team will lose money.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I was not suggesting that the NHL contract the rebuilding teams.  I understand that rebuilding is a natural process that every team will eventually go through.  I suggested that the NHL realize that the southern US experiment failed.  Nashville and Atlanta are near the bottom in attendence (below NJ)  And the only reason Florida has decent numbers is the Canadian snow birds and the team offers deals on tickets like 2 for 1 sometimes.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A healthy NHL cannot have 3 or 4 teams struggling to break even.  They would be better off to get rid of the dead wood and come back after a lockout with 27 or 28 profitable teams.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, I am not a Wings fan but what is wrong with the way they operate.  They draft well every year which allows them to trade and sign  established talent.  It begins with commited ownership and fan support.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that some playoff teams should be contracted.  Anaheim has typically been at the bottom in attendence figures, and once people realize last years playoff run will not happen again, this years attendence will go down again.  And the team will lose money.</p>
<p>I was not suggesting that the NHL contract the rebuilding teams.  I understand that rebuilding is a natural process that every team will eventually go through.  I suggested that the NHL realize that the southern US experiment failed.  Nashville and Atlanta are near the bottom in attendence (below NJ)  And the only reason Florida has decent numbers is the Canadian snow birds and the team offers deals on tickets like 2 for 1 sometimes.  </p>
<p>A healthy NHL cannot have 3 or 4 teams struggling to break even.  They would be better off to get rid of the dead wood and come back after a lockout with 27 or 28 profitable teams.</p>
<p>By the way, I am not a Wings fan but what is wrong with the way they operate.  They draft well every year which allows them to trade and sign  established talent.  It begins with commited ownership and fan support.</p>
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		<title>By: devfanman4</title>
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		<dc:creator>devfanman4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems to be a bit of an ego trip from the captain of the B&#039;s.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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If Ales Hemsky, Victor Kozlov, Todd Marchant, or Steve Sullivan said something like that, the NHL would respond with &quot;Who cares?  You don&#039;t like it?  Then retire.&quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Maybe it&#039;s a good thing that a &quot;star&quot; player came out and expressed everyone&#039;s feelings about officiating this season, but he got a little dramatic and egotistical (is that word?) threatening to retire.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Something has to be done about the officiating though.  Look at the NFL (as we do so often).  Final minute of the 4th quarter or midway through the 2nd quarter - it doesn&#039;t matter, pass interference is pass interference.  They gotta call the rules by the rulebook.  Then scoring will go up and hockey will be &quot;more exciting&quot; if that&#039;s what you want to call it.  Seeing the Devils beat the Sens 1-0 and tie the Leafs 1-1 last weekend was exciting hockey to me, but maybe I can appreciate defense more because that&#039;s what I play.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to be a bit of an ego trip from the captain of the B&#8217;s.  </p>
<p>If Ales Hemsky, Victor Kozlov, Todd Marchant, or Steve Sullivan said something like that, the NHL would respond with &#8220;Who cares?  You don&#8217;t like it?  Then retire.&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s a good thing that a &#8220;star&#8221; player came out and expressed everyone&#8217;s feelings about officiating this season, but he got a little dramatic and egotistical (is that word?) threatening to retire.</p>
<p>Something has to be done about the officiating though.  Look at the NFL (as we do so often).  Final minute of the 4th quarter or midway through the 2nd quarter &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t matter, pass interference is pass interference.  They gotta call the rules by the rulebook.  Then scoring will go up and hockey will be &#8220;more exciting&#8221; if that&#8217;s what you want to call it.  Seeing the Devils beat the Sens 1-0 and tie the Leafs 1-1 last weekend was exciting hockey to me, but maybe I can appreciate defense more because that&#8217;s what I play.</p>
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		<title>By: devfanman4</title>
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		<dc:creator>devfanman4</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why contract and move the nets back and all?  All these refs have to do is CALL THE DAMN PENALTIES.  If the penalties are called consistantly, the players will stop doing it and all will be better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why contract and move the nets back and all?  All these refs have to do is CALL THE DAMN PENALTIES.  If the penalties are called consistantly, the players will stop doing it and all will be better.</p>
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		<title>By: MAniac29</title>
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		<dc:creator>MAniac29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What are you talking about?  First of all, if you want to go by talent, there are some teams that made the playoffs last year that would probably get contracted.  What you are saying doesn&#039;t make sense.  I am willing to be that attendance in Atlanta is better than attendance in NJ.  Possibly Nashville and Florida as well.  Atlanta is excited about their team because they are young and will DEVELOP into lots of talent.  You cannot just go out axing teams because the are in the process of rebuilding.  Rebuilding is a natural part of any sport that is ran intelligently.  Don&#039;t cite the Red Wings as not needing to develop, because hockey should not be run in a way that allows the wings to do what they do to be good every season.  I agree talent is watered down, I agree things need done, but you cannot simply go out and axe teams.  You would have guys that would have no place in the NHL any longer getting paid the rest of their contracts sitting at home, not to mention the business ventures into sports teams that cannot just be eliminated...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are you talking about?  First of all, if you want to go by talent, there are some teams that made the playoffs last year that would probably get contracted.  What you are saying doesn&#8217;t make sense.  I am willing to be that attendance in Atlanta is better than attendance in NJ.  Possibly Nashville and Florida as well.  Atlanta is excited about their team because they are young and will DEVELOP into lots of talent.  You cannot just go out axing teams because the are in the process of rebuilding.  Rebuilding is a natural part of any sport that is ran intelligently.  Don&#8217;t cite the Red Wings as not needing to develop, because hockey should not be run in a way that allows the wings to do what they do to be good every season.  I agree talent is watered down, I agree things need done, but you cannot simply go out and axe teams.  You would have guys that would have no place in the NHL any longer getting paid the rest of their contracts sitting at home, not to mention the business ventures into sports teams that cannot just be eliminated&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: sumthingbruin</title>
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		<dc:creator>sumthingbruin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Have you ever watched a bruins game? Koivu doesn&#039;t have the same problems because he&#039;s a completely different player. He&#039;s tiny...grab on to him and he falls down and you get a penalty. If joe were saku&#039;s size he wouldn&#039;t be complaining. Thornton routinely has three guys hooking, spearing and holding him. Because he refuses to go down, no call is made.  Thornton carries the puck, especially down low, more than 95% of the players in the league. His size, coupled with skills and refusal to dive are the reasons he never gets any calls. He shouldn&#039;t be treated differently by the refs just because he&#039;s good.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I think he has a very legitimate point...the game in the Eastern Conference sucks right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you ever watched a bruins game? Koivu doesn&#8217;t have the same problems because he&#8217;s a completely different player. He&#8217;s tiny&#8230;grab on to him and he falls down and you get a penalty. If joe were saku&#8217;s size he wouldn&#8217;t be complaining. Thornton routinely has three guys hooking, spearing and holding him. Because he refuses to go down, no call is made.  Thornton carries the puck, especially down low, more than 95% of the players in the league. His size, coupled with skills and refusal to dive are the reasons he never gets any calls. He shouldn&#8217;t be treated differently by the refs just because he&#8217;s good.</p>
<p>I think he has a very legitimate point&#8230;the game in the Eastern Conference sucks right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Donovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s right. Why do you think Jacques LeMair uses it so much. He was on the Habs when they &#039;invented&#039; it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s right. Why do you think Jacques LeMair uses it so much. He was on the Habs when they &#8216;invented&#8217; it.</p>
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		<title>By: Bubblenuts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bubblenuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it were entirely the point, why would LA go and get Cechmanek? (sorry couldn&#039;t resist)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I don&#039;t know what the % split would be, but I guarantee there is a good chunk only playing for the $, or the records (ie. Messier)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Joe won&#039;t quit, not with that kind of cash flow. Clutching or not.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it were entirely the point, why would LA go and get Cechmanek? (sorry couldn&#8217;t resist)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what the % split would be, but I guarantee there is a good chunk only playing for the $, or the records (ie. Messier)</p>
<p>Joe won&#8217;t quit, not with that kind of cash flow. Clutching or not.</p>
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