NHL.COM has posted that the Sens have picked up Luke Richardson.
How many smiling Leaf fans are reading this?
Depth signing for the sens, Pilar to Atlanta came from nowhere, so many Leaf fans had him already penciled in.
Odd signing… I just don't see the need.Aaron Asham's signing was insightful as was Karel Pilar's. Good luck to both.
Ottawa needed some depth on defence, but is he really the best they could do? Well, it's not like he'll be taking a regular shift.
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The Richardson contract is a two-way. So he'll probably start the season up in the NHL and then be put to the AHL.
the pilar signing sounds like a nothing-signing.
i can certainly seem him shine with another shot at the NHL. I dunno why the leafs didnt sign him to a contract – despite the depth they have on D. This guy has some talent and would be cheap – but i guess Wade Belak is a better defenseman right? (oh yeah, he fights and loses all the time i guess that is worth something).
I'm a big (well, perhaps as big as they get) pilar fan.
he was a really solid player before his awful condition came up.
back when he first popped up with the leafs, I almost got a pilar jersey, but didn't. good thing, since the condition kept him out so many seasons.
wish the leafs would have picked him up, although I understand why they didn't.
hope he does well with atlanta. the guy deserves it – sticking with it all these years.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT MAKES ME LAUGH????? THE FACT THAT ALL THESE SHYT PLAYERS ARE BEING SIGNED AND NO BASHING COMMENTS ON THIS WEBSITE. ALL THIS CRAP ABOUT "DEBTH" SIGNING. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!???? IF THE LEAFS SIGNED ANY OF THESE PLAYERS THE COMMENTS WOULD HAVE FILLED THIS SITE WITH CRAP AND HOW THE LEAFS SUCK AND ARE STUPID. HAHAHAH THIS IS SO PATHETIC
Toronto Maple Leafs.
considering the sens have actually accomplished things in the last yearcup finalsplayers over 100 pointsthe best line in hockeywinning the division last year as well as the conference
with those said…..they get slack…..
Actually, I must steal a line from Rick Bobby's father; "If ya ain't first, your last". This is probably one of my favorite lines of all time. It doesn't matter what place you finish in your division, conference, or even league standings, or how many points your players have scored, or how many pretty boys you have on a line. What really matters is winning a Stanley Cup, and I will be the first, and probably not the last, person to tell you that nobody cares about the runner up. The Ottawa Senators have accomplished nothing, besides lending credit to their M.O. of being 'choking dogs'. In reality, the only series (in the 2006-2007 season) in which they played well, was against Buffalo. Pittsburgh was a young, inexperienced team, which saw it's young players crack under pressure (although it will be very useful experience for their rookies – Crosby and Fleury especially). In the New Jersey Devil's series, they saw nothing besides a lackluster offense, and a washed up goaltender (yes, Brodeur played like garbage. I don't care what his numbers are or were) playing behind a stiffling defense. Against Buffalo, Ottawa dominated, although two of the games went into overtime and really could've went either way. Then, finally, Anaheim. Boy was that a one sided series. Probably extremely exciting for Anaheim fans, but everybody knew what the outcome of the series was going to be after the first game. Ottawa was LUCKY to even win ONE game against the Ducks. After such a failure, in which Ottawa's lack of heart, size, and playoff ability was exposed, they still cling to the fact that they got to the Stanly Cup Finals, and dominated in a playoffs in which they simply breezed by against god awful teams. Any team in the Western Conference, such as Vancouver, Dallas, Minnesotta, Anaheim, San Jose, Nashville, Calgary, or Detroit, would have EASILY disposed of the Ottawa Senators, as it seems the Eastern Conference teams had tunnel vision regarding offensive domination, while completely disregarding defensive play (which the Western Conference is built upon – as well as goaltending). This is without even considering Ottawa's past failures, such as their second round exit against the Buffalo Sabres in the 2005-2006 season, conference finals exit against New Jersey in 2002-2003, second round exit in 2001-2002, and first round exit (a sweep) at the hands of the Toronto Maple Leafs. You see, I also recall a team by the name of the Edmonton Oilers making the Stanley Cup Finals. They lost, all of their good players left, and now they are a pretty crappy team, with an even crappier GM (who is only now being exposed). And you know what? Nobody cares. The only thing people will remember is that the Carolina Hurricanes won in the 2005-2006 season. Finally, just because you have achieved a certain amount of success doesn't mean you have the right to make an awful move on behalf of your franchise, and yet have it deemed 'gold' because you made it to the conference finals and got DOMINATED the year before. Do you think Richardson will improve the team? NO!!! Then why do it? Besides, Murray was just named general manager this off-season. He has no experience or success to boast about, as the only one who has that right is John Muckler and he's gone. Let's face the facts. The Ottawa Senators are a very good, well-rounded team. However, they are a worse team now, than they were in 2006-2007 (losing Preissing, Schaefer, etc.), and if they couldn't win in the years between 2005-2007, you better believe they are not going to bring home a championship any time soon. Their team philosophy is ass-backwards, and it seems as though Ottawa is moving towards a 'tamp-bay-like' era, with the attempt to sign the 'big-three' (Alfredsson, Heatley, and Spezza). We all know how well that's working out for Tampa Bay now, right?
Seriously man….leave it alone…you're just going to get people saying "didn't you already talk about this?"
I don't disagree with your points, except the big three comment. Yes, now it's a hassle, but I remember a few years ago when Tampa won a cup….
Doesn't matter how young pittsburgh is/was, they still beat them in 5 games…a series victory is a series victory. Against NJ, they beat them (including the second best goalie in NHL history) in five games…and then yes Buffalo in five games….in other words they played fantastic and beat three teams in 15 games.
I know what you're trying to say but you're being a little unrealistic to say that the only series they played well in was Buffalo….just because Pittsburgh is young doesn't mean Ottawa didn't play well.
As for "easily" disposing the senators…Dallas, HA!, Vancouver…can't score, Calgary HA!, Nashville HA! and last and certainly least MINNESOTA???? Dude just because you dislike the Sens doesn't mean you have to be completely closed minded. Going into the past like you did means nothing…all teams lose and all teams grow.
And yes, Richardson will improve the teams depth on D and they now have someone else to hit besides Neil.
And I'm not even a Sens fan…but what you're doing is no different than non-leaf fans saying "ha ha 1967" or "no cup in 40 years" none of that matters, if you have to go back in history in order to put the franchise down then you're only making yourself look foolish.
I'm not trying to put you down or argue with you so there's no need to come back yelling at me, I'm just saying you're looking at it in a very distorted view that really has no merit.
Not my fault they coudln't seperate the seasons into 2 halves.
First half he was nothing short of good, even when his defense wasn't. The guy doesn't deserve the bullshit he's in.
It'll be a couple more days though, just got my wisdom teeth removed and the pain meds are kinda tough on me.
First off, concerning the big three comment another respondent made, your comparison of Heatley, Spezza, and Alfredsson, to Lecavalier, St. Louis and Richardson in their Stanley Cup run is ridiculous. My point was that now, after two post seasons (one having in the conference finals), and two consecutive high scoring seasons for Ottawa's big three, you better believe they will be asking for a HUGE raise (Heatley will be EASILY asking between 7 and 9 million a year, Spezza will also be seaking around 7 million a year, and Alfredsson will be making his usual (on average) 6.5 million a year. Thats a total of about 21.5 million locked up in three players. The difference between these three and Tampa's big three, is that Tampa's 'big three' era realistically only started AFTER they won the Stanley Cup, and Richards was given an absolutely ludicrous contract, followed by St. Louis contract (which at just over 5 million was a steal), and Lecavalier's hefty 6.85 million a year contract (He's well worth it, and so is Heatley). However, notice the key difference. This was AFTER Tampa's big three had won a Stanley Cup. Also notice, that after they won the Stanley Cup, and signed these three key players, the team has gotten progressively worse (although those three players are playing pretty well – 3 players don't make a team). Ottawa hasn't won a cup, although they came close, but is headed down the exact same path without a championship to show for it. So, in reality, the team will only be getting worse as they struggle to clear cap room for three players who will eat up the majority of the teams budget. Therefore I must reiterate; If Ottawa couldn't win a cup between 2005-2007, when they had Chara, Schaefer, Preissing, and several other players, then what chance do they stand when they will have to clear out more talent in order to make way for their big three? The answer is, NONE. And Murray will, mark my words, sign Heatley and Spezza to massive contracts (Heatley most likely for 8 million a season, and Spezza for 7).
As to the other individual. I never claimed that Ottawa didn't play well. Obviously, they made it to the conference finals. But my point was that the Eastern Conference was, in reality, a weak conference last year compared to the Western Conference, and it showed when they played the ducks (they weren't prepared for a hard hitting, high flying, defensive game, cemented behind a hard-nosed goaltender in Giguere). They were used to Fleury, who played weak, and Brodeur who play subsequently worse than Fleury. The only team who they played, who had a stand up goaltender, was Buffalo (Ryan Miller). This is why I claimed this was the only series in which Ottawa really played well, because they dominated Buffalo so badly that they were able to beat Miller on a consistant basis, exposing their lacadasical defense (who loved to pinch), and fully offensively minded forwards. The fact of the matter is Ottawa wasn't tested until they played Anaheim, and they weren't prepared (that's why they lost). As a matter of fact, my claim was that Ottawa played TOO well against these easier teams.
As for your comment on the Western Conference teams, here's how I stack it up; 1. I might give you a series against Vancouver or Dallas, although their goaltending was Stellar, 2. Calgary might've beaten Ottawa because of the solid defense and goaltending, backed up by 1 goal games or overtime wins coming from the offensive production of Jerome Iginla, perpetuated by Deon Phaneuf in the back-end (but I might give you the benefit of the doubt on this one) 3. Nashville would've DOMINATED Ottawa, as most people forget that Nashville barely lost to San Jose. Almost every game went into multiple overtimes (they would surely not stand a chance against San Jose or Detroit). 4. Minnesotta is SEVERELY underrated and would have masacred Ottawa. Not only did they win the same amount of games against Anaheim, but they put up a better fight. They have the best defense in the league, and one of the best goaltenders, couple with the likes of Koivu, Gaborik, and several others on offense. Their downfall was their youth and inexperience (besides also having to face the future Stanley Cup champions in the first round).
Furthermore, Richardson will NOT help the Sens out, and will end up playing most of the season on the bench, or in the minor leagues. Believe me, I know, I watched him when he played for the Leafs, and Tampa sure as hell got rid of him pretty quick. As well, the past is a completely relevant evaluator of a teams success. The whole point of having a franchise in the NHL, is to #1 make money, and #2 win a championship. I understand that the Leafs haven't won a cup since 1967, and it is quite a bothering statistics. However, it is true. That is why the Leafs are ridiculed, and deservedly so for the most part. But, like you said, teams build, and at one point it was necessary for Toronto to almost start from a blank slate, and begin a scouting based franchise program. Now the building starts, and only seeks to benefit the team. You achieve this by going through a few bad years, and obtaining draft picks, and signing the occassional free agent. Nonetheless, Toronto is a proud franchise boastin 13 cups, the second most all-time behind Montreal, and this is also a part of history. The Ottawa Senators have no cup, will now have to face the outrageous contracts of Spezza and Heatley, along with Alfredsson's already existing contract, while having to clear out other young talent in order to make cap space, thus only making them a worse team as they progress. Therefore, in reality, there cup run has done nothing but worsen their team, while providing no sense of accomplishment through a championship. Although it seems bleak, I assure you, it is quite relevant. At least Anaheim will have cap space already cleared for them, through Niedermayer and Selanne's, as well as Penner's, departure, and already have an existing young prospect roster to choose from in order to fill the gaps.
Leafs sign Richardson: "HAHAHA, Leafs sucks, way to sign more over the hill washed up players"
Sens sign Richardon: "Wow excellent depth signing, Sens are winning it all."
I remember that being before the lockout, before the salary cap. I think the point is that TB tied up a huge amount of money in the big 3 and when the salary cap hit there was not enough money to build themselves into a top team again and have been sitting in the lower playoff spots since. Also Ottawa hasn't won the cup with the salaries that Spezza, Heatley, and Alfredsson make now so if they make Tampa Bay's mistake their team will only go down and will fall further from the cup.
Hey HTR how about some blogs!?!?!?
Exactly. You have got to love the hypocrisy. He played for the leafs, and played like garbage. Then the Tampa Bay Lightning rid themselves of his 'services'. This, along with moving Schaefer to Boston, isn't turning out to be a very good start for Bryan Murray and his stint as general manager, in my opinion. Clearing room in order to sign the 'big three' is going to be a big mistake. Mark my words.
No one has called the Richardson signed an "excellent" move on this site. Honestly, why are we even discussing a player getting signed to two-way deal to be the eighth defenceman for Ottawa. Richardson will not be taking a regular shift for the Sens.
Well that's a charity signing by the Sens. I can't believe a guy with cement hands and feet like Richardson is still in the NHL. This will make the Montreal fans *****ing about the Brisbois signing realize it could have been worse.
actually brodeur is the best goalie in history
Yeah, clearly resigning Emery, Schubert and Kelly before their arbitration dates was a terrible move. Murray isn't Kevin Lowe, he's an old-school pro who doesn't feel the need to make any rash actions. Richardson will be little more than a mentor in Bingo, but get to retire playing for his home-town team. There's nothing wrong with that. If we were touting him as a saviour (like a few Leaf fans did when he came to the Blue and White), that would be a different issue. but as it stands, Richardson is a player/coach who'll help the young kids grow, but not help the team much on the ice. Gotcha?
Alfredsson's salary is under 5 million. That's hardly a monster salary for a player of his calibre. Keep hoping that the Sens lose, it'll only make victory sweeter.
What are you talking about? Alfredsson is locked up to a deal that pays him under 5 million per. Get your facts straight, buddy. Second, how can you critisize this team's philosophy when the Leaf management is a shambles? And unlike Tampa, Ottawa has a goalie locked up long-term, as well as the majority of the defence (with the exception of an aging Redden). Also, don't be so quick to judge, Peter Forsberg would look mighty fine on the second line…wait until the sumer is over.
Signing Richardson is doing a favour to a guy who wants to retire a Senator and who can mentor the young kids in Bingo. Nothing more.
buddyi said they get slack………not get away with murder
"I will be the first, and probably not the last, person to tell you that nobody cares about the runner up. The Ottawa Senators have accomplished nothing"
on the contrary…lots of people think much of second place……calgary flames fan base grew like crazy after their run….tampa didnt seem to get ANY outside support. (just one example of my counter point)
"Their team philosophy is ass-backwards, and it seems as though Ottawa is moving towards a 'tamp-bay-like' era"
how?…….alfy is signed for anuther 3 years or sumthing like that…..for a salery that matches penner's…………
like any great team….they have a wealth of talent so they HAVE to let go of someone(they picked right wen they let go of chara and kept redden)…….its better than trying to BUY a team *COUGH* detroit, toronto, colorado.
and one more thing id like to bring up…..your saying how theyre gonna be worse for next year……..how about this….look at detroit and nj…..those teams keep clicking no matter wat…………..sens lost chara..havlat….hasak….get worse?…they remained a force in the confrence
minni put up a better fight cuz it was the first round….unlike the sens who were battle worn
calgary didnt play half as good as they should have…..in fact they sucked out(and im a bloody flames fan dammit)………sens would have beaten the flames
"Toronto is a proud franchise boastin 13 cups"cant disagree……but u cant compair an original six team to a team thats a little newer…………u might as well say that columbus hasnt won anything compaired to toronto
and the last thing about the ducks….commoooooooonnnnn…..the ducks were a MONSTER last year…….i called them winning the cup as well as MANY other people…….and the ducks situation is so prime it hurts……brian burke should win a medal haha
So when you say toronto is bulinding through the draft, do you mean trading away all those picks for a goalie who is unporven as starter?
Excuses regarding being worn down, after having a longer resting period than the Ducksis nothing more than that. A cheap, half-assed excuse. You can say teams are tired in the Cup Finals, but similarly, you can also say teams are well rested and energetic in the first round.
Calgary didn't play half as good as they should've because they were playing against Detroit. The same Detroit team that beat San Jose, and subsequently ALMOST went on to beat Anaheim (but up the best fight against the Stanle Cup Champions)
The fact remains that Columbus is a sad excuse for a franchise who hasn't won a cup, and neither has Ottawa. I understand that Sens are only 15-16 years old, but it doesn't change the fact of the matter.
As well, I will agree with you. The Ducks WERE monster, and probably have the best situation/outlook out of any team in the NHL (especially after a Stanley Cup Championship).
P.S. Richards sucks, won't get any ice time, and will not help the development of anybody. PERIOD!!!
This is nothing more than venting frustration at your own team's dysfunctionality, but you're too arrogant to admit it.
PS it's spelled Richardson, and he'll get ice-time in Bingo.
Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Lidstrom, Kronwall, Holmstrom, Osgood, Lebda, Hudler, Franze, Filppula are all Detroit draft picks, not to mention long term players like Maltby Draper Chelios. Detroit doesnt really buy teams, you kinda cant with a salary cap or else ur sens would really be losing spezza next year
Yes accurate. But not for your reasons that there's some sort of bias in that. It's like if Vancouver went and pursued Brodeur. Unnecessary. Sens needed depth for if someone on D gets hurt. Leafs already have enough. Thus stupid move if by Leafs, okay move by Sens.
I never said that Alfredsson's salary was a monster salary now, but he's due for an upgrade with the numbers he puts up. Heatley will likely be resigned for at least 7 million. Spezza will probably be making 6.5 – 7 million when he is resigned unless he takes a pay cut for the good of the team. All I was saying was if they can't win the cup with the team that they had this past season, and they do keep those 3, then the team will have less money to spend on other players. Which will mean for the most part a worse team. Which brings them further from the cup.
no kidding detroit cant buy teams with the cap
i was talking about back in the day
I don't think you realize that when the leafs acquired Richardson, our depth on D was not so great. Those were the days where Aki Berg, Alex Khavanov, and Wade Belak were regulars in the lineup. Kronwall and Harrison and Wozniewski were battling for roster spots but were in and out because of injuries. Colaiacovo was still bouncing up and down as a fill in for injuries. White wasn't considered ready until he proved in the last 7 games of that season that he could play in the NHL. And also Richardson was acquired in a trade to replace Ken Klee who we traded to get who looked to be a promising young player in Suglobov so it wasn't really any different but still we got criticized for it.
Brodeur faced an average of 34 shots a game. Compared to the regular season shots against that's good for last place in the league. Stiffling defence huh?
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