Should Turin 06 Mark the Changing of the Guard for Canada

Everyone is making the early opinion on how the season is going to go. So I figured I would start the debate for who could be playing for team Canada in Turin, Italy. I am going to limit my selection to younger players, cause I feel that this is the Olympics where we leave behind the likes of Lemieux, Sakic, Yzerman, Blake. Take a younger team and show the world that we will continue to dominate our sport for years to come.


Is there a pair of Canadians out there that are playing better together than Heatley, and Spezza? With Alfredsson on the top line in Ottawa, it looks like Heatley will be playing on the left wing this year. Which is good cause we can leave him there fo the Olympics, hence giving us a top line of Heatley, Spezza, and Iginla.

For the second line, how about someone that has really been lighting the lamp this year, I’m talking about Simone Gagne. In 4 games Gagne has 6 goals, 9 pionts, and a 31.6 shooting percentage. Yes I know it’s only 4 games, but I believe he will be one of the top forwards this year. How about puting him with the youngster Sidney Crosby and to be honest I’m really not sure who to put on the right wing here. I was thinking perhaps Glen Murray of the Bruins.

On the third line you want good two-way players, you want them to chip in on the offense, but you need them to play well in their own end as well. Here I have to start with “Captain Canada” himself Ryan Symth, the guy has been there for us through thick and thin, it would be wrong not to take him. How about putting him with Selke finalist Alyn McCauley, and Joffrey Lupul of the Mighty Ducks.

For the fourth line or as some like to call it the “energy line”. You want three players you can send out there to play good two-way hockey, but can go out there and crash bodies. Here I would have to put Brenden Morrow, Joe Thornton, and Shane Doan.

So here are the forward lines:

Heatley______Spezza_______Iginla

Gagne_______Crosby_______Murray (maybe?)

Symth_______McCauly______Lupul

Morrow______Thornton______Doan

On defense you want your top 4 to be offensive threats without losing anything in the defensive zone. Canada’s top four should be Scott Niedermayer, Chris Pronger, Wade Redden, and Ed Jovanovski. The final pairing should be your stay at home shut down the best the other team has type of defensemen. Here I would put Robyn Regehr of the Flames and Cory Sarich of the Lightning.

So the defensive pairings are:

Niedermayer________Pronger

Jovanovski__________Redden

Regehr_____________Sarich

Now for goaltending, this is the year for Brodeur to pass the torch to the next great Canadian goalie, Roberto Luongo. Luongo should start with Brodeur backing him up. Which leaves Theodore, Turco, and what appears to be the old J.S. Giguere that lead Anahiem to game 7 of the Stanley cup finals. I have to say I am happy that Giguere is coming back, cause he is going to push Luongo, Theodore, and Turco going into 2010 in Vancouver.

Now before you completely tear it apart, let me explain myself. Is it important to win in Turin 06. You better believe it, but NOT as important to win in 2010. The older players I did not name will not be there in 2010. I put this team together to show the world that Canada will be a dominant force for years to come, regardless of who we bring because we are that deep in talent. It is very easy to just name all the most talented players, but I had a purpoose for the lines, I used the players as examples.

However if the same dinosaurs are going to be in charge. We all know they will pick their friends. Before you all go but they won the last time, remember this. They didn’t have to see the Swedes, the Czechs, or the Russians in the knockout phase. Tommy Salo will not be there to screw up. There also might not be a judging scandal that pissed the Russians off to the point where the federation threatened to pull out all the athletes right before Russia played the U.S.

With all that being said Canada will need to make a changing of the guard sooner or later. We can either bring a well balanced team that will control both ends of the ice, or we can bring a bunch of superstars that can’t do nothing in their own end and hope our goalie saves us again and again.

Either way……….GO CANADA GO!!!!!!!


81 Responses to Should Turin 06 Mark the Changing of the Guard for Canada

  1. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    McCabe? I think team sweeden should get him. Lord knows that if McCabe plays against sweeden, he’ll have more assists for sweeden than sundin and naslund!

  2. 24_cups_and_counting says:

    McCabe basically had a 3 point night for philly when the leafs lost to them in the playoffs.

  3. 19AVSFANFoLIFE19 says:

    because most of the young guys are still young so they have a good year for there age does that mean they will do it again?

  4. 19AVSFANFoLIFE19 says:

    sakic gagne iginla i think

  5. dcz28 says:

    Tommy Salo being considered for Sweden i think answers your question about other contries going for name before numbers

    As for naming better players i did name a few like Draper, Phillips, Phaneuf (young but if he keeps playing like he has he would have to be considered) add Lecavalier, Richards, St-Louis (they are not old why were they not on the team?) and now add the likes of Lemieux, Sakic and Yzerman (3 of the best leaders and clutch players ever) to me that makes a better team

  6. Wills says:

    Yeah Belfour has been great, he has a 2.92 GAA and a SV% of .889. Allison is way to freaking slow to play on international ice.

  7. habs79 says:

    What great Swedish goalies are there? Lundqvist and Tellqvist will fight it out to be the starter.

  8. habs79 says:

    I have to thank you, as usual you bring intellect, and common sense to your statement. I agree if the older guys are indeed playing better then they should go. However when this team is picked no one even wants to look at the younger guys they want their older talents.

  9. habs79 says:

    Yet another good defensive defenseman

  10. habs79 says:

    Here is the thing, when it is time for the olympic team to be picked, and the older guys are playing great better then the younger guys, then I will admit I was wrong and they should be the ones to go. However if I am right and come december the younger guys are still the ones on top and playing better, will you and everyone else do the same?

  11. habs79 says:

    I realize when everyone is pissed, everyone is so focused on my examples no one is paying attention to my points. So here is another set of examples maybe you would not trash so badly.

    Gagne_______Lecavalier_________Iginla

    Nash________Staal_____________Bergeron

    Smyth_______Draper___________St. Louis

    Morrow______Thornton__________Doan

    Niedermayer________Pronger

    Jovanovski__________Redden

    Regehr______________Hannan

    Remember only EXAMPLES……or maybe

    Gagne______Richards______Iginla

    Kariya______Bergeron______Sullivan

    Maltby______Madden_______St. Louis

    Morrow_____Thornton______Doan

    Niedermayer______Pronger

    Jovanovski________Redden

    Regehr____________Rathje

    Once again only examples……..or maybe

    Heatly_______Spezza_________Iginla

    Nash________Lecavalier_______Sullivan

    Symth_______Peca___________St. Louis

    Morrow______Thornton________Doan

    exact same defense but with Regehr and Phillps

    or maybe we can leave Heatley on the right side

    Gagne_______Lecavalier______Iginla

    Nash________Spezza_________Heatley

    Symth_______Marleau________St. Louis

    Morrow______Thornton________Doan

    exact same top 4 with any pairing of Regehr, Phillips, Rathje, Hannan, I would say Phaneuf, but I don’t want to get my head torn off. Even though he has been impressive in this young season. He also plays every situation. I also realize my fourth line is always the same, but I just like the fact that this line can go on the ice and just physically dominate a game. Anyway I hope these new lists get my point across more clearly.

    Before anyone goes, “but Peca, Maltby, and Draper are old too”. Yes I realize that, but they are still some of the best defensive forwards in the game. If you look at the olympic history third and forth liners do not get many points. So why not send stronger defensive players in those spots, and it can Improve your pently kill.

    Just remember they are only EXAMPLES. Although I feel our defense should look something like how I suggested, and unless Blake has a major turn around, which I’m not saying he won’t. If Sakic and Lemieux can find there way back to the top all three should go.

    My main arguement was we should send our best players no matter what their name or age is.

  12. 92-93 says:

    that’s funny, because I’ve always been taught through my education that when debating an opinion you express it as just that. because when you express your opinon as ‘fact’ it tends to close-off debate and shut other opinions out. declaring ‘common sense’ is done way too often on this site.

  13. Marky2Fresh says:

    Blake is better than Rathje anyway you slice it, hell even McCabe is better than Rathje.

    Lemieux and Sakic are better than Madden and Morrow.

    Yzerman better than Peca.

    You haven’t said anything about goalies yet.

    And if we are really taking the best players as it stands right now, Lindros and O’Neil should be there too, they have more points than Lecavalier, St. Louis and Doan. So your main arguement about how we should send our best players no matter what their name or age is does not stand with your lines.

  14. dcz28 says:

    I agree that they don’t have many great Swedish goalies and that those two will probably fight it out with maybe another young one like Stefan Liv if he has a great season in Sweden…i guess we don’t agree about the players that should make team Canada but that can be expected when you have so many high calibre players young and old to choose from

  15. bartsch says:

    Is anyone going to watch the Olympics in Italy for the ice hockey? I want to go, I’m in Germany so it wouldn’t cost me much to go. I tried emailing the official ticketing people on the official Turin Olympics site, but it has been a month with multiple emails from me, but no replies. If anyone is going and can give me some info on where to get tickets and such PLEASE LET ME KNOW!

  16. 19AVSFANFoLIFE19 says:

    we send the best players so nash and smyth are injured how does that mean they are better then sakic foote blake and lemieux. foote is and always will be good he just doesnt have a team infront of him and gretzky knows that. and patrice bergeron is to young he had 1 season what happens if he gets injured or if he doesnt perform.

  17. Lord says:

    When I think of what should be our Canada team and see a lot of player who granted to play for our country I’m not able to choose. Now, the question is: Can we make 2 teams ?

    Think about it! Our first team (team A) choose by Gretzky and another (team B) choose by another manager with no relationship with the first organisation. It’s just a way to get Canada A vs Canada B in the final.

    I’m sure this never happens but it’s amazing to think about because we have an incredible overall depth! Make a list of all players who can play in the 2006 Olympic games and you will see that we can make 2 teams able to win the gold medal.

  18. The_Cramp says:

    Ha Ha Ha! That one was funny, you forgot Marc Chouinard ! And why not send canada’s junior team !

  19. robinson19 says:

    Sarich out for Carney.

    Also, You’re typically week on French Canadians, what else is new, having ignored the likes of Savard, Lecavalier, and St.Louis. Yeah, you put in the token frenchy in Gagne but that doesn’t make you objective.

  20. robinson19 says:

    three words: LA TEND RESSE!!!!!

  21. saint says:

    The way I see it, here are our strengths:

    LW

    Martin St. Louis

    Dany Heatley

    Simon Gagne

    Alex Tanguay

    Brenden Morrow

    Kris Draper

    Ryan Getzlaf

    Centres

    Mario Lemieux

    Joe Sakic

    Vincent Lecavalier

    Joe Thornton

    Brad Richards

    Patrick Marleau

    Eric Lindros

    Sidney Crosby

    Jason Spezza

    Steve Yzerman

    Patrice Bergeron

    Jeff Carter

    Mike Richards

    RW

    Jarome Iginla

    Ryan Smyth

    Shane Doan

    Rick Nash

    Todd Bertuzzi

    Glen Murray

    Steve Sullivan

    Kirk Maltby

    D

    Rob Blake

    Chris Pronger

    Scott Niedermayer

    Adam Foote

    Wade Redden

    Jay Bouwmeester

    Eric Brewer

    Scott Hannan

    Ed Jovanovski

    Chris Phillips

    Bryan McCabe

    Dan Boyle

    Rob Regher

    Dion Phaneuf

    G

    Broduer

    Luongo

    Theodore

    Belfour

    Turco

    Now, I’m not one for “character” players, keep in mind. I like my Team Canada skilled, so that’s why Maltby and Draper were rated so low. That in mind, we could, again, have two teams:

    LW — Centres — RW

    Martin St. Louis Mario Lemieux Rick Nash

    Dany Heatley Joe Sakic Jarome Iginla

    Simon Gagne Joe Thornton Shane Doan

    Alex Tanguay Brad Richards Ryan Smyth

    Extras: Patrick Marleau, Todd Bertuzzi

    D1 — D2

    Chris Pronger Rob Blake

    Scott Niedermayer Adam Foote

    Wade Redden Jay Bouwmeester

    Extras: Ed Jovanovski, Bryan McCabe

    Goalies:

    Martin Broduer

    Roberto Luongo

    Jose Theodore

    Second Team:

    LW — Centres — RW

    Sidney Crosby Jason Spezza Glen Murray

    Paul Kariya Patrice Bergeron Jeff Carter

    Brenden Morrow Mike Richards Steve Sullivan

    Ryan Getzlaf Eric Lindros Kirt Maltby

    Extras: Steve Yzerman, ????

    D1 — D2

    Dan Boyle Eric Brewer

    Dion Phaneuf Chris Philips

    Rob Regher Scott Hannan

    Extras: ???

    Goalies:

    Marty Turco

    Ed Belfour

    Andrew Raycroft

    The second team has more of the youngin’s than the first, but I’m organizing with experience meaning quite a bit. Most of the “First Team”, if not all, were involved in the 2002 Olympics or the 2004 World Cup of Hockey.

    Second team are the new guys on the scene and the old members of Team Canada that can no longer scratch the surface of the “First Team”. I’m definitely forgetting some players, so please share which players (particularly the wingers) you feel should be listed as well.

  22. saint says:

    His name is Habs79, so I’m sure it wasn’t on purpose.

  23. habsforever says:

    Iginla Lecavalier Gagne

    Heatley Spezza Richards

    Lemieux Crosby St. Louis

    Bertuzzi Thornton Nash

    Pronger Niedermayer

    McCabe Redden

    Blake Foote

    Brodeur

    Luongo

    Theodore

  24. 19AVSFANFoLIFE19 says:

    the first team cant be all scoring it wont work thats why usually people like maltby and peca are there bud as a defensive presence or an “energy line”

  25. saint says:

    Thing is, I can’t honestly give up a spot for Maltby or even Peca, when given the choice of the other options.

  26. mkfx says:

    mccauley, lupul wont make the team

    guys like lecavalier, st.louis, richards, nash are sure shot

    i dunno why you make those stupid prediction, specially sarich. this guy wont even make the second canada team

  27. heater says:

    Did you just mention Darcy Tucker and Team Canada in the same sentence? You must be KIDDING

  28. The_Cramp says:

    The guy will be a part of the world juniors. The only thing I’m wondering is if they’ll consider Angelo Esposito…He’s pretty impressive for a 16 yrs old.

  29. The_Cramp says:

    I agree you gotta send the best player no matter wich province they are from but we all know gretz has a lot of friends in the west…..I think a good french can. pick for the future will be Bergeron. He is a good all around player and has experience with crosby in the junior team(world). The two guys seem to improve every game so it will be scary for other teams if they play together in 2010.

  30. JeffBurnz09 says:

    It’s hard to argue since Canada is so successful…but I’ve wanted to see more youth in Team Canada for awhile. I mean, look at Lecavalier. He wasn’t even picked for the World Cup last summer because they chose Yzerman. Yzerman gets hurt, Lecavalier won MVP of the tournement. I like Yzerman, but I doubt he would’ve done what Vinny did in that tournement. I’m not against having veterans there by any means, but there’s some guys who I think it’s time to let go of.

    I don’t know why Murray hasn’t made the team yet. It’s time for Spezza and Nash to make it. Personally, I’d rather they drop the ‘grind line’ idea. No offence to those guys, but Kris Draper and Brendan Morrow don’t exactly scream Canada’s elite hockey players. I’d like to see basically the same team as the World Cup in 2004, with Murray, Nash, & Spezza added, with some older guys cut.

    Smyth-Thorton-Murray

    Sakic-Mario (maybe)-Iginla

    Nash-Spezza-Heatley

    Gagne-Lecavalier-Doan

    St. Louis

    Richards

    Bertuzzi (I’d rather he not be on the team at all, but he will be)

  31. JeffBurnz09 says:

    It’s hard to argue since Canada is so successful…but I’ve wanted to see more youth in Team Canada for awhile. I mean, look at Lecavalier. He wasn’t even picked for the World Cup last summer because they chose Yzerman. Yzerman gets hurt, Lecavalier won MVP of the tournement. I like Yzerman, but I doubt he would’ve done what Vinny did in that tournement. I’m not against having veterans there by any means, but there’s some guys who I think it’s time to let go of.

    I don’t know why Murray hasn’t made the team yet. It’s time for Spezza and Nash to make it. Personally, I’d rather they drop the ‘grind line’ idea. No offence to those guys, but Kris Draper and Brendan Morrow don’t exactly scream Canada’s elite hockey players. I’d like to see basically the same team as the World Cup in 2004, with Murray, Nash, & Spezza added, with some older guys cut.

    Smyth-Thorton-Murray

    Sakic-Mario (maybe)-Iginla

    Nash-Spezza-Heatley

    Gagne-Lecavalier-Doan

    St. Louis

    Richards

    Bertuzzi (I’d rather he not be on the team at all, but he will be)

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