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		<title>By: cgolding</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/sick-and-tired-of-being-sick-and-tired/comment-page-1/#comment-97764</link>
		<dc:creator>cgolding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 13:47:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[15% isn&#039;t a huge amount of profits in the big scheme of the sporting world, especially when you are looking at operating costs of less than 100 million. I would bet the Flyers are getting that much easily off of everything they have going on in the area. The point is that that profit isn&#039;t enough to make up for a harsh luxury tax or some other system that truly attacks the wealth of the teams.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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When looking at the NFL, NBA, and MLB, the money that even the teams in the positive are getting is miniscule.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>15% isn&#8217;t a huge amount of profits in the big scheme of the sporting world, especially when you are looking at operating costs of less than 100 million. I would bet the Flyers are getting that much easily off of everything they have going on in the area. The point is that that profit isn&#8217;t enough to make up for a harsh luxury tax or some other system that truly attacks the wealth of the teams.</p>
<p>When looking at the NFL, NBA, and MLB, the money that even the teams in the positive are getting is miniscule.</p>
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		<title>By: 19Yzerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>19Yzerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I told you to be carefull what you wish for.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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May all of the above happen except an NHL salary Cap.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Its a conspirocy by Las Vegas to keep teams from being overwhelming favorites and cause unpredictable results of games. its all about money from the vegas odd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told you to be carefull what you wish for.</p>
<p>May all of the above happen except an NHL salary Cap.</p>
<p>Its a conspirocy by Las Vegas to keep teams from being overwhelming favorites and cause unpredictable results of games. its all about money from the vegas odd.</p>
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		<title>By: 19Yzerman</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/sick-and-tired-of-being-sick-and-tired/comment-page-1/#comment-97762</link>
		<dc:creator>19Yzerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 12:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Of all the sports leagues there is, by FAR, the most parity there&quot; NFL? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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OH absolutley without question in regards to NBA NHL MLB!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Unless you count in a restrictor plate NASCAR race.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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However I stand by my above statments regarding degrees of seperation from top to bottom.A #1 draft pick knows that the up coming season he is on the least likely of all teams to enjoy a sucessfull season.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I will allow your analogy of parity to stand since a lot of team bunch up in the middle but, to say that every team has a chance to win super bowl you must look at the odds which are not the same for every team at anypoint ever.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Of all the sports leagues there is, by FAR, the most parity there&#8221; NFL? </p>
<p>OH absolutley without question in regards to NBA NHL MLB!!</p>
<p>Unless you count in a restrictor plate NASCAR race.</p>
<p>However I stand by my above statments regarding degrees of seperation from top to bottom.A #1 draft pick knows that the up coming season he is on the least likely of all teams to enjoy a sucessfull season.</p>
<p>I will allow your analogy of parity to stand since a lot of team bunch up in the middle but, to say that every team has a chance to win super bowl you must look at the odds which are not the same for every team at anypoint ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Aetherial</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aetherial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[YOUCH!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I figure there won&#039;t be hockey next year either (well I am hoping there won&#039;t be!)... no NBA either will SUCK!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I decided I would be come a Raptors fan, hope that the NHL disappears for a few years, the players union breaks, the NHL restarts...  a bunch ofteams fold... then the league folds... and we start all over again with maybe 10 teams.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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And a salary cap.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In the meantime, I will watch NFL football and NBA basketball :)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YOUCH!</p>
<p>I figure there won&#8217;t be hockey next year either (well I am hoping there won&#8217;t be!)&#8230; no NBA either will SUCK!</p>
<p>I decided I would be come a Raptors fan, hope that the NHL disappears for a few years, the players union breaks, the NHL restarts&#8230;  a bunch ofteams fold&#8230; then the league folds&#8230; and we start all over again with maybe 10 teams.</p>
<p>And a salary cap.</p>
<p>In the meantime, I will watch NFL football and NBA basketball <img src='http://hockeytraderumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aetherial</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aetherial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 10:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, actually the Leafs ARE making giant profits.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Ontario teacher&#039;s Pension Fund owns the majority of the Leafs and they are getting about 15% a year ROI before this year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Given the overall economic state the last couple years.. that is HUGE!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I know my investments have LOST money, not returned 15% :(&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, actually the Leafs ARE making giant profits.</p>
<p>The Ontario teacher&#8217;s Pension Fund owns the majority of the Leafs and they are getting about 15% a year ROI before this year.</p>
<p>Given the overall economic state the last couple years.. that is HUGE!</p>
<p>I know my investments have LOST money, not returned 15% <img src='http://hockeytraderumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Aetherial</title>
		<link>http://hockeytraderumors.com/sick-and-tired-of-being-sick-and-tired/comment-page-1/#comment-97759</link>
		<dc:creator>Aetherial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 09:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sorry but if you are seriously arguing that there is not *real* parity in the NFL, you are simply wrong.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Of all the sports leagues there is, by FAR, the most parity there.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry but if you are seriously arguing that there is not *real* parity in the NFL, you are simply wrong.</p>
<p>Of all the sports leagues there is, by FAR, the most parity there.</p>
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		<title>By: CommonSense</title>
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		<dc:creator>CommonSense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2004 01:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agreeto a point, but then again the NFL is not on the verge of extinction.....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agreeto a point, but then again the NFL is not on the verge of extinction&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: 19Yzerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>19Yzerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 16:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its conspiracy By the NHL and NBA to Deprive fans of any sports to watch a year from Now. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Grassy Knoll and the Magic Mystery Bullet.!!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Watergate!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Now this!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its conspiracy By the NHL and NBA to Deprive fans of any sports to watch a year from Now. </p>
<p>The Grassy Knoll and the Magic Mystery Bullet.!!!!</p>
<p>Watergate!!!!!</p>
<p>Now this!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: cgolding</title>
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		<dc:creator>cgolding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 15:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[yeah, quiet rumblings there won&#039;t be an NBA season.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, quiet rumblings there won&#8217;t be an NBA season.</p>
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		<title>By: 19Yzerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>19Yzerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Nov 2004 13:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I read it from top to bottom I agree with most of your points.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Bullies on the ice , enforcers what ever you may call them. They are needed when some goons are taking runs at your skilled players. There is always going to be some hacking and waking going on and its up to the players to control their emotions. to say  &quot;he should have to pay the piper (Kirk Maltby??). Banish the instigator rule.&quot; Is like giving Peter Worell permission to beat on anyone anytime for no reason. So if a player does not throw off his gloves and Maltby is an excellent example that. Then no matter how much he is pissing you of you can&#039;t just unload on those who do not contest you to do so. That would be McCarty&#039;s Job.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I agree that NHL hockey cities should not have to be spoon feed hockey and that the NHL should maintain a leve of expectancy in terms of finance for new teams in questionable markets. So owners will be required to do more then open a team and then use the team as some sort of tax shelter or money pool for other businesses that they may own.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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NBA? I have been hearing the the NBA&#039;s CBA is coming up at the end of this season and that it looks no better then the current state of the NHL&#039;s CBA.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read it from top to bottom I agree with most of your points.</p>
<p>Bullies on the ice , enforcers what ever you may call them. They are needed when some goons are taking runs at your skilled players. There is always going to be some hacking and waking going on and its up to the players to control their emotions. to say  &#8220;he should have to pay the piper (Kirk Maltby??). Banish the instigator rule.&#8221; Is like giving Peter Worell permission to beat on anyone anytime for no reason. So if a player does not throw off his gloves and Maltby is an excellent example that. Then no matter how much he is pissing you of you can&#8217;t just unload on those who do not contest you to do so. That would be McCarty&#8217;s Job.</p>
<p>I agree that NHL hockey cities should not have to be spoon feed hockey and that the NHL should maintain a leve of expectancy in terms of finance for new teams in questionable markets. So owners will be required to do more then open a team and then use the team as some sort of tax shelter or money pool for other businesses that they may own.</p>
<p>NBA? I have been hearing the the NBA&#8217;s CBA is coming up at the end of this season and that it looks no better then the current state of the NHL&#8217;s CBA.</p>
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