Chelios was a solid player by his third year in ’85-’86. He had 34 points in a 41 game regular season shortened by injury. The season before he had 64 points in 74 games. i’d say he was already a top NHL defenseman based on those numbers by’85-’86. I didn’t even mention Roy as a HOF player at that point, so don’t bother there. But you didn’t mention the fact that there were three other guaranteed HOF players (Gainey, Robinson and Carbonneau) I pre-empted your attack on their regular season by stating that this team had injury problems. I remember Robinson’s broken leg that caused him to miss most of the second half and I know Chelios also got hurt. I seem to recall there were others but I can’t remember. Anyway, these injuries definitely impacted their regular season numbers. Roy was also a rookie and he probably made some mistakes to earn that mediocre 23-18-3 record. Nice try.
My point is that goalies don’t win Stanley Cups, teams win Stanley Cups. ’85-’86 is a prime example; a team loaded with veterans with playoff experience and an extremely strong team defense won a Cup with an exceptional rookie goaltender. I don’t want to diminish Roy’s role in that Cup in reality, I just want to change your clearly inflated perception of what he did that year.
As for ’92-’93, Brisebois used to be a pretty decent defenseman. His game has severely declined in the past three years. Do you think that maybe the thirty or so injuries he has had since that year may have diminished his skills. Quite likely. In ’92-93, he had 10 goals and 31 points in 70 games and finished +6. He had similar seasons two years before and two years after that year. This is not the Brisebois we have the misfortune of watching today, his play is in a freefall.
You are kidding yourself if you don’t think there is a certain amount of luck involved in being associated with a team that set a playoff record for OT wins. Certainly, Roy played a strong role in getting these victories but he wasn’t scoring the OT winners so there is more involved than just his stellar play. There might not be luck in winning one or two OT playoff games, but there is some involved in setting a record for them.
You have no idea if Cujo would have won with those teams. Cujo has never had defenseman (just try and argue this point)like Roy had in ’85-’86 and he’s never been on a team of destiny like ’92-’93. I was hoping for better from you; this was a pretty weak effort. Your only statement of fact was that I may be a grade A nimrod.]]>
see the part where it says “comments are owned by the poster. we arent responsible for their content”?..i will take advantage of that and waste my whole post with as much “classless prejudice” as i want. and there isnt a god damn thing you can do about it you god damn hick
…. dont you have some retreating to do?]]>