Something brewing…

Vancouver and Montreal are up to something… No really good leaks yet as to the exact players, but something is in the works.

Yesterday was a very busy day for the two. Steve Tambellini of the Canucks and Bob Gainey of the Canadiens met at the Manitoba Moose-Hamilton Bulldogs game (the clubs respective farm teams) and at the Canucks-Flames games there were a total of 8 (count them… 8!) Montreal scouts in attendance. Both these have been confirmed (radio for source… sorry, no link).That leaves on to speculate what could be in the works. The obvious assumption is that Theodore is on the move… he has struggled of late, sat out against the Senators and has had his name come up many many times. Also, he is just what the doctor ordered for the Canucks who have been running their backup goalie ragged.

The biggest mistake people make is always expecting it to be a huge trade, however based on the facts I believe Theodore will be the biggest name involved.

The facts are these:

1. Tambellini and Gainey met at the AHL affiliate game. We can more or less assume one player from either side is involved… For Montreal it could be Perezhogin, however it was most likely for one of Vancouver’s, where it could be Balej or King (more likely King as he was just assigned to the AHL recently… now looks suspicious)>

2. Montreal sent 8 scouts to Vancouver. That means that whatever the trade is it won’t involve a Todd Bertuzzi or an Ed Jovanovski. Why? Because you wouldn’t send scouts to see how they play, people already KNOW how they play. 8 scouts means that were watching more than one player (probably to pick which ones they liked best) and seeing as how Montreal needs a goalie back and you can’t trade guys on the IR list (Cloutier) I bet some of those pairs of eyes were focused on Auld.

3. The Canucks have been calling up and experimenting with several energy guys as of late. Rick Rypien, Alexandre Burrows, guys known as energy, agitator checkers. We can only assume it is to prepare for the loss of a guy in this type of roll (Cooke, Ruutu, Kesler).

Now it is a job of just matching up the money.

Theodore makes 4.5 Million. The Canucks have approximately 3.5 million in room without shooting themselves in the foot (saved by the injury to Cloutier). Montreal is in desperate need of a centre. They seem confident with Cristobal Huet in net (I would be as well). He and Auld won’t be any worse then what they got now, and they will be significantly cheaper. Souray isn’t having as good a year as his last, but he has not terrible and with the Canucks depleted defence Montreal will be hard pressed to get one from them.

The big issue is what happens when/if Cloutier gets back from injuries.

I see it going down something like this:

To Vancouver:

Theodore (4.5m)

Future Considerations

To Montreal:

King (450k) note: not currently counting against Canucks salary

Auld (513k)

Kesler (722m)

Future considerations

The future considerations are where the trade evens up because it involves Cloutier. I do not know if it is allowed under the collective bargaining agreement but I believe it would go something like “If Cloutier becomes healthy he heads to Montreal for a mid pick/prospect, if not then Vancouver gives a high pick”

The actual trade is pure speculation and it could be changed either way to even it out… all indications though, are that Montreal is trying to dump Theodore for young prospects, possibly to make more room for a future move. It’s just a matter of connecting the dots.

Watch all this typing be for nought and it is something dumb like Brookbank for Ivanovs or whatever the hell his name is.


149 Responses to Something brewing…

  1. Monsieur_no says:

    I have to tell you somting, nobody see the real theo. This year is wife is waiting for a kids ALL the quebec public is on him only because is born in quebec(like all other frenchman) , is himself confidence is so low . We can call a scandal what happen to the father of is gilrfriend he was accused of being a pedophile(the fact is than this man is rerally a high personality of the music; he was one of the biggest music agent in quebec)

    Please excuse my very poor english

  2. Enigma says:

    They definitally do need someone to protect their star players and Cloutier can handle that.

  3. rojoke says:

    For a 3-goal victory, I was impressed for about the first period. After that, they slipped it into cruise control and, if not for Huet, who knows what would have happened. They’ve never really had difficult time scoring on Hasek, going back to his time in Buffalo. The fact that they didn’t generate a whole helluva lot of scoring chances after Emery left the game says more than the 4 they scored on him. It did nothing to convince me that the ship has suddenly been righted and they’re ready to start racking up wins and moving back up the standings. Let’s see where they are in a week before we call of the yellow alert.

  4. TheWho says:

    Guy Cloutier is full of shit, it happened a while ago, Theo should live up to the expectations.

    For the trade, I’d like Bertuzzi and Cooke. To Vancouver, Theodore, 3rd round pick & Plenakec or Higgins.

  5. gabtp says:

    I doubt Higgins would be traded.. He seems to be best friend with Ryder, and Ryder seems to be loved by coach Julien…

  6. Neely4Life says:

    thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaank you!

  7. Tweek says:

    Yep, im just a huge dumb leaf fan who has no idea what he’s talking about just because of the fact that im a leaf fan. He can only beat boston in the playoffs, plays bad against divisional rivals, hasnt had a strong string of games yet this year to justify his big contract and yet he still gets some consideration for team canada? Give it up, this guy has had one great year and one decent year and thats about it. He reminds me a lot of Giguere, id say both are at about the same level in terms of talent which isnt a bad thing but I just think Theodore gets too much praise for how little he does.

  8. Gretzkin says:

    I don’t need to be clever, or original to insult you. You just make it too easy.

    By the way, I’m not a Leafs guy either, and you are the one with the Leafs/Sabres admissions, not me. But I am glad that the Leaf fans have that small consolation of knowing that they can man handle the Senators in the playoffs, over and over and over again.

    I’ve had more sex than you’ve had hot meals.

    17 years of hot, wonderful sex.

    And my girlfriend is actually quite hot.

    Yet you do have one point. I am a loser, and I don’t really deserve her. But I’ll take what I can get.

    Anyways, just don’t get your hopes up about the Senators too high tiger, they aren’t going to win the cup this year.

  9. Gretzkin says:

    By the way, I’m just messing with you Neely. I actually like the Senators. They aren’t my “Team”, but I think they’re awesome, and improving on their weaknesses every year and getting that much closer. Hopefully they can get the Maple Monkey off of their backs at some point.

    Ottawa is an awesome Hockey Town, with great fans. I’ve been to several games at the Corel Center, and it’s one of my favorite buildings to watch hockey.

    You just get riled so easily!

    You know what the fun part of this whole thing is?.

    You don’t know who my Team is, so it’s just a one sided bash.

    I like arguing with you. You’re fun!

    Keep up the good work!

  10. robinson19 says:

    According to thefourthperiod.com, which is usually full of crap anyways, the Lightning are thinking Kubina for Biron or Modin for Fernandez.

    I’d like to see Brad Richards for Theodore and Ribeiro.

    It’s no secret the Habs have been checking out Richards and with good reason.

    Then they could use a package including a young prospect like Perezhogin to acquire a Fernandez or a Biron.

  11. Lint07 says:

    Theo will not be traded to the East. You can bet your house on it.

  12. neiltaylor11 says:

    It’s very probable that Montreal will be making some trades in the future in my opinion. I dont have any information other then what i’ve read on here but just wanted to comment on a few things. LeClair will not be coming back to Montreal i dont think, like someone said previously he left on bad terms and what not. Personally i would love to see Luongo in Montreal but i know im purely dreaming. I dont believe Brad Richards will be coming to Montreal for Theo and Ribero i dont think thats very realistic. I would actually love to see Bertuzzi in Montreal and i think if a Van-Mon trade goes down its going to be big. Montreal needs a scorer. Yes they have Kovalev and Koivu and Ryder but i think what Montreal needs is a Superstar, someone who can compete in the points race. Now im not saying Bert is that man but i just think thats what Montreal needs. Lecavalier would be good for Montreal and he is french speaking. Montreal does need a strong Point man. Rivet and Souray are average players but they need a franchise defenceman. If Montreal can someone work a deal with Van. and get Bordoun(cant spell) then i think in years to come he could be that man. The other rumor is of Col. and Mon. working out a deal, altho i would be happy with Hedjuk in Montreal being a habs fan he hasn’t really put up the numbers this year i thot he would. I would be shocked and very pleased if Montreal got their hands on Tanguay but i dont think thats very realistic at all. Anyways im very interested to see what happens in the near future and look forward to future posts on this topic.

  13. neiltaylor11 says:

    It’s very probable that Montreal will be making some trades in the future in my opinion. I dont have any information other then what i’ve read on here but just wanted to comment on a few things. LeClair will not be coming back to Montreal i dont think, like someone said previously he left on bad terms and what not. Personally i would love to see Luongo in Montreal but i know im purely dreaming. I dont believe Brad Richards will be coming to Montreal for Theo and Ribero i dont think thats very realistic. I would actually love to see Bertuzzi in Montreal and i think if a Van-Mon trade goes down its going to be big. Montreal needs a scorer. Yes they have Kovalev and Koivu and Ryder but i think what Montreal needs is a Superstar, someone who can compete in the points race. Now im not saying Bert is that man but i just think thats what Montreal needs. Lecavalier would be good for Montreal and he is french speaking. Montreal does need a strong Point man. Rivet and Souray are average players but they need a franchise defenceman. If Montreal can someone work a deal with Van. and get Bordoun(cant spell) then i think in years to come he could be that man. The other rumor is of Col. and Mon. working out a deal, altho i would be happy with Hedjuk in Montreal being a habs fan he hasn’t really put up the numbers this year i thot he would. I would be shocked and very pleased if Montreal got their hands on Tanguay but i dont think thats very realistic at all. Anyways im very interested to see what happens in the near future and look forward to future posts on this topic.

  14. i_know_hockey says:

    For Bertuzzi to be shipped off it would have to be a big deal. It would be a trade mirroring the Heatley – Hossa/de Vries deal. Heatley needed a change in scenery and perhaps Bertuzzi could use it too. But i highly coubt he will be sent packing… that Naslund-Morrision-Bertuzzi line is such a force and for a while it was their whole team. I think its just wishful thinking for him to be traded away.. but its possible… for the right deal

  15. i_know_hockey says:

    Sens vs Sabres… yea i remmeber those days… but that was when it was either Tugnutt or Rhodes in net lol… or even Lalime. Sabres have always been pretty good in playoffs but its just a matter of getting there

    Sen vs Leafs… Neither team has really gone far in the playoffs… leafs cant take that extra step to go all the way and with Belfour i dont see them doing it this year either

    The only real consistant contender in the Eastern Conference has been the New Jersey Devils who find themselves in the mix year in and year out. But now its a new age, new rules, new teams… and with today’s game we could really see some new teams challenge

  16. capouel says:

    This trade rumors is a real joke. I see almost all canadien game living in Quebec and if Vancouver make this trade their GM should be put in the Millburry class.

    Theo had 1 good year

    Sourray had half a good year

    Plekanec has potential but hasn’t prooved anything

    Draft picks doesn’t make diff until it’s 1 or 2 round.

    And they wants

    Bertuzzi – ok it is a dumbass on skates but he’s big and scores

    Ohlund – one of the first 2 def on almost any team

    Cloutier – ok I agree with this one.

    So if I was Vancouver:

    from MTL

    Theo – if they really want him (i think Biron is not better not worst and cheaper)

    Sourray – ok, but not for ohlund, maybe a 3-4 def (I don’t know vancouver def well)

    Plekanec – if you want him..

    And a couple of draft picks like 2 first or second round (2006-2007 drafts)

    from VAN

    Bertuzzi

    Cloutier

    Marginal player or under-performing prospect

    Never forget that Montreal is a rebuilding team and hasn’t a lot of trade baits. They are on the verge of not making the playoffs and the fans starts to growl. So they got the pressure, if one team should lose this trade it’s them !

  17. Spree says:

    I think this article is not based on true facts. First of all, Montreal has too many centres, we aren’t missing any with Koivu, Ribeiro, Bulis, Bégin, Bonk, Plekanec.

    Second point, Montreal has too many prospects currently, I don’t think if they trade it’s for prospects. They need offensive and defensive leaders. They have a lot of prospects playing like Kostitsyn, Ferland, Plekanec (IR), Murray, Perezhogin and some young veterans like Bégin, Dagenais, Ribeiro and more prospects for next year like Latendresse, Emelin, Côté, …

  18. Gretzkin says:

    Totally, I think with the new CBA, we are going to see a few more teams do better than they would have in the ‘Old NHL’. Teams you wouldn’t expect to to take it the distance. Much like the Calgary-Tampa Final of last.

    Former Power Houses will struggle (NJ). And the Leafs will probably suffer the same fate as former seasons.

    Philly and Ottawa have the greatest chance of the “Old, Strong” teams (in the East), and I think the Rangers, with continuing strong play of Henrik, could see more success than they’ve been used to of late.

  19. capouel says:

    You are right, this trade isn’t fair but for the Cannucks.

    To Vancouver: Theodore, Ribeiro, Zednik, Chipchura (or Perezhogin)

    To Montreal: Bertuzzi, Cooke, Bourdon, first round pic

    Come on the canadiens give a pile of s*** (over-rated posing goalie, big head Ribeiro, one move zednik and a prospect) and get a pile of gold (a star and a blue chip prospect)

    Now your proposal:

    To vancouver:Theodore ,Ribeiro, garth murray(or bulis)

    To montreal:Bertuzzi,Bourdon,auld,(roud pick

    Mtl gives : you know wath I think of theo and ribeiro + Garth Murray (gritty player but not more)

    Van gives too much, For wath MTL gives, I answer with bertuzzi and auld for theo, zednik or sourray and a youngster / prospect / first or second round draft picks.

  20. capouel says:

    You’re so rigth, if I was Vancouver GM, that the kind of trade I’ll do. Theodore is a lame goaler that crumbles anytime he gives a bad goal. I’ve seen him play a lot since his beginning in MTL and this goalie sucks !!

  21. capouel says:

    I still remember my friends and family (a lot are canadien fans) telling me that ottawa has been robed when they traded Bonk for a 3rd round draft pick to LA.. hahaha !! who’s been robed.. the suckers that gave Garon for Bonk I think..

    Ottawa didn’t won that trade… think of LA who gave a 3rd round pick for Garon they won it !!

  22. capouel says:

    Hey !! tell that to your boss when your not performing at job… come on boss I can’t be there on time three years ago my stepfather was found guilty of child abuse and my wife is pregnant. My neighbor has wart on his left testicle ans my goldfish is dying !!

  23. SensDude says:

    for your information Markov is a franchise defensman he’s been the best D-man for the last 3 seasons.

  24. Komic-J says:

    The more I think about it, the less I see big all-star players coming to Montreal…

    Sure, I would like Montreal to get a Todd Bertuzzi, or a Vincent Lecavalier, but I don’t see that happen any time soon…

    Right now, I’m kinda hoping that Bob Gainey will decide to go with youth, and build the team around the Alexander Perezhogin, Andrei Kostitsyn, Thomas Plekanec, Chris Higgins, Kyle Chipchura, Guillaume Latendresse, Mike Komisarek and Carey Price, while keeping veteran players like Saku Koivu, Alexei Kovalev and Andrei Markov.

    If they do make a move for an established all-star, I hope they’ll go for a defenseman…like Ed Jovanovski or someone like that…a player who’s still under 30 years old, and could still be a key factor with the team when all the young players will be on board.

  25. robinson19 says:

    Markov is one of the most underrated players in the league, everyone wo gripes that the Habs don’t have a #1 or 2 defenseman is not watching him play. What they need is one or two more like him, which Rivet and Souray aren’t quite and Boullion isn’t yet but could easily be.

  26. digs says:

    Three way betweem Vancouver, Colorado and Montreal….imagine the media and fan reaction if Bert ended up in Colorado!!!

    All kidding aside, I think bith teams have something to benefit from a trade, but I do not know if Theo for Auld is all that good. Huet has one big game, and I don’t think Gainey would sent off Theodore right away. He’ll probably see pending how Huet fairs if he gets the start in Colorado.

    If the habs loose theo, we would get a vet goalie to kind of guide Huet, Danis and Price.

    Watch Potvin end up in Montreal!

  27. Mikorebel says:

    I’ve been in Montreal since 1987 and never have i seen a hockey rumor come true. Despite the fact that i consider myself a habs fan i have to say i’ve been very disapointed with the moves they make. Now everyone is expecting Bertuzzi to come…

    GOOD LUCK !!

    If Theodore leaves we have no goalie. Huet hasn’t played enough games to demonstrate he could assume the #1 role. Danis neither. It’s good to get Bertuzzi but then again what will it take to get a good goalie. Luongo ? How many prospects will we loose for him. And with the habs luck he’s going to come, get hurt and we loose it all !! lol

    If there are any trades it’l be the bad influence in the team and has we all know it’ll be a trade to break the ribeiro-theodore-dagenais click.

    For that reason, Ribeiro and dagenais with maybe another prospect will leave for a high salary player.

    Since vancouver wants to save some money to make changes, Ribeiro ( +-1M) dagenais ( +- 500k) and a prospect like pereghozin for something like bertuzzi ( 5M ) would make more since. Canucks would save a good 3.5M and adding that with the money saved by cloutier …Canucks will then have enough money to make a big move.

  28. neilios says:

    Big Bert aint going nowhere he is a superstar player and Montreal aint got shit to offer for him unless they give up Theodore,Ryder,Markov,Komasarik,and Chipchura thats the only way the Canadians get Bertuzzi cause Bert is untuchable unless its Luongo or Brodour coming back in return.I think Canucks will go after a better goalie then Theodore anyways and cheaper Biron will be the man coming to Vancouver and all they would have to give up is a prospect and maybe a draft pick,and Gomez will be in a Canucks uniform to by the trade deadline all they will give up for him is Kesler,Park,and a 2nd round pick.Kesler would be hooked up with his old buddie Parise thats why I see that deal going down.Good luck to you Canadians fans in making the playoffs I think you will just barely make it in only if Theodore can pick his shit up same with your lame ass Dmen.

  29. AfroCon says:

    Huet can’t take a #1 spot but, he played 41 games for LA in his last season there while maintaining a 2.43GAA and .907Sv% on a team that had all it’s good players injured.

    So, it is my belief that he could at the very least share the load with another #”1.5″ goalie just like they’re doing in Minnessotta.

  30. mtl_prince says:

    None of these trades are going to happen…

    Theo is not going to be traded, maybe in 2 years when price has played a few games and theo’s comtract is up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  31. mtl_prince says:

    Kyle Chipchura won’t be traded either, he is the next captain of the canadiens.

    Higgins and Chipchura are going to be legendary together, Just like back in the day when we had mike keane, craig ludwig, mike mcphee and guy charboneau.

  32. bakunin says:

    Ive heard on the news the rumor twice:

    Both time they talked about a 1 on 1 trade: Theodore vs Bertuzzi

    Its the first time i hear a rumor on the news so this rumor may be founded.

  33. habs79 says:

    What is with everyone wanting Bertuzzi in Montreal. Come on he is not even a shawdow of his former self. If it comes down to either dealing with Vancouver or Colorado. I personally would rather deal with Colorado simply because I would rather have Aebischer over Auld anyday. If they want a goalie like Auld, just call up Yann Danis and give him a chance. Aebischer is about the same age as Theo and would give us quality goaltending until either Yann Danis shows he can be a number 1 or Carey Price is ready for his chance at the NHL. Auld is still unproven.

    To Colorado

    Jose Theodore

    Richard Zednick

    5th round draft pick

    To Montreal

    David Aebischer

    Milan Hejduk

    Kurt Sauer

    Colorado gets one of the starting goalies they are rumored to be after. A winger that can provide offense, and a draft pick.

    Montreal gets a quality starter to replace Theodore, a top 6 forward who can play on the top line provided him or Kovalev can move to the LW. Kurt Sauer seems to be in limbo with the Avs and would provide defensive depth for Montreal. I mostly included him cause I believe Montreal needs to take his salary in the trade for cap reasons.

  34. habs79 says:

    That’s right Montreal has to trade all that to get a guy who is not even a shadow of his former self. Well I hope you are right cause I don’t want him in Montreal, Vancouver is more then welcome to keep him and Jovocop. I really hope Montreal doesn’t deal with Vancouver. Why take a goalie like Auld when Gainey could just call up Yann Danis.

  35. habs79 says:

    I hope you are right, cause I don’t want him to come to Montreal. I hope Montreal plain and simple doesn’t deal with Vancouver, they can’t get a quality goalie back in return. If the want a unproven goalie like Auld they could just call up Danis.

  36. neilios says:

    OH man come on Auldy the Baldy is way better then the over paid bum Theodore and Abby just sucks the sack this year and was never a starter in the 1st place and plus Auld is worth the bang for its buck compared to the 2 bums I just mentioned Theo and Abby.LOL and only in your wildest wet dreams can you guys get a guy like big Bert on your pussie little midget team Canadians.The Canadians are history and always will be from here on out the Canucks are gonna make there dynasty starting this year.Canadians keep on wishing you have a player like Bert cause I enjoy watching a player like him every night and you guys have who to watch Riberio????LOL

  37. Spree says:

    Agent X is reporting that it might be Huet who should be on the move:

    http://hockeyhearsay.blogspot.com/

  38. neiltaylor11 says:

    hmmm Huet being traded, thats interesting. Hopefully Gainey spills the beans soon lol. im goin crazY!

  39. canadaownshockey says:

    dumbest thing I’ve ever read.

  40. canadaownshockey says:

    DAVE NONIS IS GM OF THE CANUCKS, STEVE TAMBELINNI IS GM OF THE KINGS. YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT.

  41. canadaownshockey says:

    They didn’t get 1 by hasek. and they were outshot 40-20. Habs fans are the most idiotic in the world

  42. canadaownshockey says:

    how is alowing 40 shots on your backup goaltender amazing? IDIOTS!

  43. Gretzkin says:

    Once a team is leading 4-0, the strategy changes a bit to protect the lead. They perhaps weren’t gunning as hard, rather just shutting Ottawa down.

    I’m beginning to think that Senators fans are becoming just as annoying as Leaf fans.

  44. Komic-J says:

    …and you got only 1 by Huet…at least we found a way to score 4 against your backup goalie.

    Most idiotic fans in the the world ? I can take that…at least our coach didn’t send players like Chris Neil after Alexei Kovalev…

    One thing I liked about this game tough…finally, there will be some “rivalty” between the Habs and the Sens…which is always a good thing.

  45. robinson19 says:

    Yeah, you could almost compare that in four or five years to Higgins, Chipchura, Begin, and Murray or Ferland, all hardnosed guys, defensive but with some jump. Exciting stuff! Expecially put together by Gainey, who as a player basically invented that style.

  46. robinson19 says:

    I have a problem with Julien’s strategy of shutting down the offense as soon as we have a lead, but one thing it means is this: The Habs not scoring on Hasek had nothing to do with your heartless team of balet dancers and everything to do with two periods of tight Montreal defence.

    Most of the Sens 40 shots were bad angle shots from outside, why do you think Huet made countless saves with his stomach?

    Numbnuts.

  47. habs79 says:

    You mean Bertuzzi the dumbass thug. Couldn’t even take on Moore face to face had to attack him from behind like a ***** would.

    The Canucks are going to do shit. If Cloutier is given the starter job back, he’ll choke like always. Maybe they should try getting out of the first round for a change. Clouteir got to the second round once in like what 4-5 tries. As for Auldy the Baldy as you call him, only time will tell. One thing is for sure, he is no Kiprusoff, or Vokoun, or even a Legace.

    The Canadiens won’t win a cup this year and I know that. But you need to stop smoking weed and see that Vancouver won’t get past the second round without a goaltending upgrade.

  48. neilios says:

    I liked what Bert did to the pussie ass Moore he never had a career in the NHL anyways no1 hits the captain of any team like and cant accept anything in return,and Cooke beat up Moore just before Bert knocked his head in.Dont call Bert a pussie cause he asked Moore to scrap all night long he knew he had it coming and I think Moore got hurt more when dumb ass Slaanne went juming on his neck.

    Auldy stopped the Leafs tonight with 35 shots not bad not bad at all he will lead the Canucks to the promise land this year just need a old timer like Kolzig to back him up.

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