Comments on: Sourced Trade Rumours 6

By: devilsfan13

devilsfan13 — Fri, 16 Nov 2007 21:18:56 +0000

hey first of all that 1st rounder for Ilya is nuts! hes worth a 3rd at mostalso, murray has had plenty of good seasons hes hit 60+ points 5 times…one time he scored 44 goals and 48 assists that 92 points, hes not useless… i agree hes not getting anybetter but hes still got some game left….so next time u trash a GOOD player thinks twice jackass….i would love to have this guy on the Devils

By: smooth4488

smooth4488 — Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:02:29 +0000

I don't know about that……. think of how much can come back the other way. A bona-fide superstar for maybe two first liners and a couple of second liners or talented role players? Suddenly your team looks deep…very deep. As much as I would love to have a prolific goal scorer that can score 50+, I would take two that could score 60 or more combined.

By: greatlife15

greatlife15 — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:55:41 +0000

Know what a joke is? obviously not.

By: svenki

svenki — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 19:33:29 +0000

pft! are you outta your freakin mind?
thats a stupid question
spezza for sundin
spezza has his whole career a head of him, the sens wont give him up for a guy who is a few years shy of retirement(presumably)

By: greatlife15

greatlife15 — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 15:53:23 +0000

Sundin for Spezza anyone?

By: cartino

cartino — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 20:29:36 +0000

If someone offered me a 20% increase in my profession I would probably leave to unless the circumstances were bad (I am happy in my current job and wouldn't take it if I was going to be miserable or unhappy in the new one though). The difference there is I presume you're a middle income earning person like myself, a 20% increase makes a huge difference in our lives, from improving our standard of living, making us afford that slightly better car/house... etc. For someone making his kind of money I don't think 500k to 1 mil/year is going to make much of a difference.

At the end of the day it's a business and players can do what they want, i respect loyalty alot in a player whether it's with my Sens or for another team, it shows some character. I wouldn't want my team to ever shell out ridiculous amounts of money to a player like that nor have a player on my team that could care less about being here except for the money.

I don't respect athletes who are consumed by that much greed and I'll admit I often hope they fall flat on there faces when there ego's get the best of them. More often than not some fool eventually gives him the money but some fall flat on there faces. Take Fedorov in my example!! Also to switch sports A-rod in baseball is another perfect example, he's to my knowledge still the highest paid player in baseball, and opts out of his last 3 years at 25m/season or so as he wants someone to give him a 10y/350m deal citing the league revenue's are up from 3B/6B since he signed his original deal and wants more of the cut (not factoring in he really wasn't ever worth what he made to begin with).

By: cartino

cartino — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 19:45:36 +0000

I'm first going to clarify something! I'm not on this forum to start pissing matches with anyone and typically don't get involved. You know my allegiances I'm a Sens fan and although I can't say I'm to fond of the rival habs or leafs, I give respect where it's due and little if it's not deserved. I have nothing against any of there fans on this forum nor am I some punk teenager who will insult anyone who cheers for a different team.

That being said, you're referring to a different Fedorov incident than I was (Apparently he has many incidents!!!), you are right in the 1997-08 season Fedorov was an RFA holding out to again be the highest paid player on the team. I believe around 6 million-ish at the time which was more than Yzerman, Lidstrom, and Shannahan were making. Carolina did make him that offer sheet which included that 14 million payout if they made the conference finals which Detroit matched.

I was referring to a different incident from the 2002-2003 season where Fedorov was in the last year of his contract. The wings wanted to lock him up and offered him a long term contract worth 10mil/year (can't recall if it was 4 or 5 years) which he turned down as he wanted to become a UFA and thought he could make more money, Detroit later withdrew the offer and offered less. Fedorov realized nobody was going to give him 10 million during the offseason and obviously pride got in the way as he didn't want to go back to Detroit with his tail between his legs and he ended up signing for less money with Anaheim after all. Since that move Fedorov hears the boo-birds everytime he comes back to Detroit and if asked why he didn't take the original contract he's done everything from blame his agent, blame his separation from Anna Kournakova, or said he simply wanted a change of scenery (whatever.. he's never been the same since he left).

Anyways feel free to google it if you don't believe me or check one of these links.
http://espn.go.com/nhl/news/2003/0719/1582918.html
http://www.gorillacrouch.com/2006/12/10/ottawa-sun-weighs-in-on-datsyuk-contract-talks/

Now go back to your original post that you wrote about me and look for a quote you wrote in your last paragraph:

"it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're stupid, then to open it and prove them right."

I think you just ate your own words!

By: Ivan_Mtl

Ivan_Mtl — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:31:05 +0000

Sergei Fedorov was a restricted free agent when Carolina made their front-loaded offer sheet.

Detroit had the option of matching the offer - which they did.

Please research your facts before say or write anything because, as the old adage goes, "it's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think you're stupid, then to open it and prove them right."

By: habsrock99

habsrock99 — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:05:11 +0000

Ovechkin's going to re-sign to the Caps. They virtually have no one (outside of Semin) that is in their long-term plans. Everyone else is expendable and they will give in to his contract demands.

By: EVILLEMIEUXMAD

EVILLEMIEUXMAD — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 16:41:41 +0000

I understand you stance on loyalty, but your idea that the Capitals are loyal to Ovechkin is skewed.
They didnt fight to the legal battles with the russians for him... they faught the legal battle becasue Ovechkin is money in the bank and they wanted him on their team... One player turned their organization from a team that no one cared about to a team that everyone wanted to watch. On top of that they did nothing to provide a supporting cast for Ovechkin in his rookie or second year. Only this year did they go out and pick up some talent, but if you ask me it is too little too late.
Also I didnt see why you would bash a player for trying to get a bigger pay check ... I like where I work, and the people I work with but if someone offered me a 20% pay increase I would hit the road running.

Yes it is nice to see players being loyal but I for one am looking forward to the bonanza at the end of the year for ovechkin... or the block buster trade that washington makes when they realize that he isnt going to sign there.