Comments on: State of the Market – from tsn.ca

By: dumbassdoorman

dumbassdoorman — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 20:21:08 +0000

lol…wow that is so true….how bad is that

By: JoelLeafs

JoelLeafs — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:43:50 +0000

Well, I agree, but as pointed out above, the awards thing isn't the greatest discussion piece (it can only go so far). About half my articles under JoelLeafs have been leaf related and garnered 1000+ views and tons of comments. The other half, yeah they only get ten or so comments, for the most part. My piece on Turris got about 40 (http://www.hockeytraderumors.com/article13605.html), so it is possible to write about non-leafs issues and get comments, but they are the exception, not the rule (not to mention often hi comment articles have simply been hijacked to leafs discussions).

A high number of comments means a good article from our perspective (gives us things to argue about), but from HRT's perspective it's largely about the hits. They generate ad revenue from pageviews and ad clicks (presumably). So, for example, right now there is an article "state of the market" that presently has 9 comments and 300+ views, as opposed to a leafs article with 4 comments and almost 1500 views (and it's newer)! Clearly leafs articles, comments or not, make them more money. If they really wanted more views they can keep their current strategy of posting tons of article, with between a quarter and a half of them being TML related, or they can write better articles that are specific discussion pieces with the aim of drawing in new subscribers.

For how small the community of regular posters on here is, 1500 is a lot of views for an article that is only a day old. They have to be bringing some cash, but likely not enough to produce regular quality content. Not to mention this site is so *****ign riddled with ads that without an adblock app it's unbearable. Fact is they make their money off us leafs fans browsing the site, and the fact that they have a pretty good google rank when and domain name (very searchable). The problem won't likely be fixed as it won't likely bring in more money (at least not in the short term).

All that being said they're content is all free. So really it's up to us to write articles and engage in dialogue. But really, who has the time to write an original article, for free, that likely won't produce much buzz.

TLDR: shit ain't a changin'. If anything, expect more short non-articles and more leaf and counter-leaf talk.

By: hockey_lover

hockey_lover — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:29:39 +0000

lol He makes $8.7 million a season. He can hire someone to tie his skates lolol

By: dumbassdoorman

dumbassdoorman — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 16:00:27 +0000

That's because Malkin couldn't tie Kessels skates…..lol…kidding.

By: hockey_lover

hockey_lover — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:36:12 +0000

"Most people who comment on the board are leaf fans."

That was the point.

Your comment about "trade talk going further" doesnt exactly hold a lot of water .. considering that are trade threads about the Rangers, The Ducks, Habs/Flyers, Columbus, Ottawa .. that all have no comments.

Fact is (and which was my point originally) that since this site is mostly Leafs fans .. having writers on the site would be pointless since, unless the articles were all Leafs based, they'd rarely get commented on anyway.

By: thisgamewelose

thisgamewelose — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:53:41 +0000

Your topic was about who deserves awards. How far did you expect that thread to go? We don't have 200 users here sharing their information on who should get an award at the end of the season. Most people who comment on the board are leaf fans. Plus, trade talk seems to go a lot further than any article featured on somebody playing well.

By: hockey_lover

hockey_lover — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:46:08 +0000

You are partially right.

The "problem" is that 10 of the 15 articles are about the Leafs and this site is about 90% Leafs fans. There is only so many topics you can talk about on the same team over and over again.

I created an article last week about Malkin for the Hart trophy. It got 15 responses.

A rumor about Kessel having a chest cold gets 70 responses.

Writers will do nothing for this site unless people respond to the articles that ARENT Leafs related.

By: Steven_Leafs

Steven_Leafs — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 12:32:43 +0000

agreed.

By: JoelLeafs

JoelLeafs — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:56:58 +0000

I blame the recent trend of posting about 15 "articles" a day, many of which are single Tweets with no substance, or a link to a TSN story. This site needs writers.

By: dumbassdoorman

dumbassdoorman — Thu, 02 Feb 2012 11:29:25 +0000

Dying, might be a strong word……but ya it seems slower for sure