On possible Stephen Weiss buy out, trade for Dion Phaneuf
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I wouldn’t be opposed to taking back Weiss in a Phaneuf deal but the return would have to be amazing. Phaneuf on his own can probably fetch Smith and a 1st, we may have to send back another small piece or retain $1-2M to make it happen (I DO NOT want to retain any salary in a 6 year contract).
Adding Weiss is a great compromise. For 3 years we have a junk contract (with an outside chance of him turning it around, don’t count on it) which is the length of our rebuild anyway (minimum). But to take him on not only are we not retaining salary but I would want a huge piece to make it worth it.
Something along the lines of:
Phaneuf, Panik, Knodel
Smith, Mantha, 2015 1st, Weiss
I doubt Detroit moves Mantha for anything but if we are taking Weiss then we need a very good piece IMO.
Honestly I am not in a hurry to trade Panik. I am not seeing him as special, but he is a hard working young player who is still growing. Having good 3rd line guys who can move up and down the line is important. Besides, if we are taking Weiss we shouldn’t be looking to add. Though I don’t see all that back for Dion. Weiss, a 1st 2015 & Ouellet I would do. If Detroit want the 1st to be 2016 prospect needs to become better. We are not getting a top prospect from them plus a pick even with Weiss.
I agree on Panik, I like him for the reason you stated, he can go anywhere on the lineup. He’s someone I can see putting up good numbers next year on a weak Leafs team and really upping his trade value. But he’s definitely not a deal breaker for me if he’s included in a bigger deal.
I almost wonder if it would be better to get a team like Detroit’s 2016 1st rather than 2015. I can see Florida and maybe Columbus finishing ahead of them next year, knocking them out of the playoffs and making their pick a lottery. Since there are 3 draws next year, a high pick could very easily be a top 3 pick.
Now there is an idea. I would be ok with taking that risk. Especially if we “compromise” by taking the 2016 1st instead, getting an even better return.
This is true and a very good point. I, however if Babcock is back and I think he will be I see them being very competitive. But anything can happen right?
Not to brag, but I told you guys the Habs are nothing special. Sorry Lafleur. The entire regular season was an optical illusion, mainly because of Carey Price. It’s finally catching up with them.
This playoff hockey is great. I’m absolutely loving the Caps. It’s hard not to cheer for Calgary too. So much more exciting than Leafs hockey.
No doubt in my mind Chicago is winning the cup. The biggest obstacle will be Anaheim if they advance. The East has zero chance at the cup.
Anyone of Tampa, Caps or Rangers could definitely give them a solid run. But yeah, they’re looking like the favourites for sure.
I really like the Caps this year, I hope they go all the way.
Trotz deserves it. Great coach
Agreed the Caps can give the West team a game. Disagreed with Tampa. Nothing about them impresses me. In all honestly, I felt the Habs outplayed them in games 1 and 3, but the Habs simply can’t score like a nerd at prom night.
Just think that Barry Trotz was available last summer, and as usual, the Leafs dragged their feet again. They decided to retain Carlyle only to fire him 6 months later.
The Leafs’ new GM and management team will have to do a much better job at drafting and overall decision-making than they’ve shown recently.
Well this is the thing. They really need players like Carrick and Connor Brown to contribute like say how guys like Andrew Shaw and Marcus Kruger have for the Hawks.
While the likes of 1st rounders Nylander, Percy, Gauthier will get a strong shot at making the team, its these late rounders who need to pan out.
Maybe a Brown, or even a Andreas Johnson can be like the next Hagelin who becomes a key top 9 forward piece.
The Leafs have just Reimer and Komarov as late rounders in their lineup. Gunnarsson was around for a bit too as recent as last year.
I guess that probably explains why the majority of the scouts were gutted.
Oh god that was a fun read for a kick in the balls. Lol. Rackell and Shaw or Jenner and Shaw were available to pick at 30 & 39. But at least we got Tyler Biggs. Yaaaaaaay.
The Burke effect. He did a lot of bad things.
Even that need to be bigger. rubbed off on Nonis.
Gauthier was selected 2 picks before Burakowsky. How is that for another kick in the balls.
I agree with you.
When it comes to Butakovsky, he was another one of those project players like Nylander (Due to being European). That is why I like drafting some European players after the Top-10.
Well skill right? Gauthier was already at best a 3rd line centre. Love his size. All teams need a player like that, but again there was a misread by management here. They thought what they had was good enough, thus, targeting role players in the 1st round was smart. WRONG.
He could be a bust like Tyler Biggs.
Hopeully he turns out like Brian Boyle
In that same Rackell draft, the Leafs, to make the Kessel trade, had to get their own pick back from Chicago. So they traded Stralman to the Flames for their 2nd. Then traded the 2nd to Chicago to get back what was originally theirs.
Our pick was originally gone from us in the trade that landed Grabovski, who we bought out.
The Hawks got Brandon Saad. The Flames got Stralman. The Bruins got our 2nd (Jared Knight) along with Seguin and Hamilton. Leafs got….
Oh and in 2010 we traded Jimmy Hayes to get a 2nd round pick we used on Brad Ross who will likely not be qualified and be out of the organization by June.
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