Comments on: Sundin Mania!!!

By: habsgod

habsgod — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:21:33 +0000

i agree let's keep it logical!!yes it's nice to go back and forth but when the stupidity like some of these proposed trades get throwin out there it just makes guys look dumb and stupid!!they get to sound like they are retarded or on something!!

By: 40grulingyears

40grulingyears — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 08:06:58 +0000

haha see we like 2 different teams but we can still agree…….hahaI dont see him going anywhere to tell you the truth, but hey u never know. but hey lets swap stajan or steen for ryder…..lol

By: Hoondog2

Hoondog2 — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:21:26 +0000

I just looked at some of the trade suggestions again. You're right some of these are pretty far fetched.

By: FarFromFreedom

FarFromFreedom — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:17:53 +0000

take it easy, you sound like your going to have a stroke. Look i understand what your saying and yes i found some of these offers ridiculous. No Malkin for Sundin will never happen, No Marleau for Sundin will never happen. No Richards for Sundin however Bernier yes i can see that simply because he isnt having the greatest year although if the Leafs do trade Sundin at the deadline the asking price will be high and the Leafs will get it because around that time, the one thing teams are looking for is a high quality vet to get them to the cup.

The Leafs will get a couple picks including a 1st and 2nd and one or two prospects from a team who believes Sundin is the answer and why wouldnt he? Look at his playoff stats 83-35-39 for 74 points quite impressive. Last year Keith Tkachuk was traded for 2 prospects and two 1st round picks and a 2nd round pick (one 1stround pick only if resigned) and he doesnt come close to Sundin in the playoffs 85-28-28 for 58 points. Im sure a team will give up alot more for Sundin then what St.louis got from Atlanta last season.

if were gonna talk about hockey, lets be logical no more Malkin for Sundin rumors, its just not gonna happen. i Enjoyed this article but i enjoyed you two go back and fourth with each other 10x more

By: habsgod

habsgod — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 16:11:06 +0000

YES YOU ARE RIGHT BUT NONE OF THOSE PLAYERS WERE THE CALIBRE OF WHAT HE WAS SAYING IN HIS STORY!!YES I BELIEVE THAT SUNDIN ISVALUABLE BUT HE WON'T GET YOU MALKIN!!,MARLEAU OR RICHARDS!!AS HE WAS DREAMING ABOUT!! I COULD SEE YOU GUYS GETTING HUDLER AND A 1ST R.D PICK FROM THE REDWINGS!!BUT HUDLER IS NO MALKIN,RICHEDS, MARLEAU!!THAT'S THE POINT I'M TRYING TO MAKE!!AS YOU AND I HAVE SAID IN YOU POST REPLY'S THAT ANY OF THAT ELITE STUFF THAT HE WAS TAKING ABOUT WOULD HAVE TO INCLUDE KABERLE!!I MEAN KABERLE FOR YOU GUYS IS AWESOME HE'S ATOP 10 D-MAN IN THE LEAGUE!!IT'S JUST LIKE MY HABS IF WE START TALKING THIS ELITE STUFF THEN OBVIOUSLY TEAMS WILL ASK FOR MARKOV!LIKE THEY DO FOR KABERLE!!

By: 40grulingyears

40grulingyears — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 14:42:57 +0000

ya i believe we could get some more for kaberle because everybody wants a puck moving defenceman. As for recchi, nobody wanted him because he hasnt done mcuh this year (2g, 6ast. in 20 games)

Sundin has (15g, 23 ast. in 31 games) if he keeps up this pace he can get alot, again i refer back to the Forsberg trade Last year, he wasnt playing alot and got traded when he was injured and look at what Philadelphia got back (two young players and two top draft picks)

By: KingCanada

KingCanada — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:55:23 +0000

I like some of your ideas but some of your trades dont work out for me.

I know Liles in on the trade block but when you are going into the playoffs you dont want to give up too many roster spots. Thats 2 spots for one, i just think Colorado would rather trade a extra prospect or a pick instead of Liles because they cant really replace him. I agree with Svatos or Wolski tho (id prefer Wolski, local kid).

The Detroit trade is good, id up the ante to a 1st round pick IMO. Hes consistently in the top 10 scoring in the league so 3 quality players (1 prospect, 1 young player, 1 high draft pick) is not out of the question.

Same thing goes to your SJS trade, take away the picks and Packard and put in a 1st round pick.

The last one with Phily seems fair but the players and prospects in return are all marginal, if Toronto is giving up an all star they have to have a shot at least at a potential all-star prospect. Those guys arent top 2 line material or top 2 paring defencemen.

All in all good job tho, your trades are better then the ones from the article.

By: KingCanada

KingCanada — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:48:24 +0000

I highly doubt that Sundin is going anywere. Its fun to speculate but with the recent play of the Leafs i doubt anyone on that team is going anywere (unless JFJ can find a way to dump a contract and upgrade).

First of all Staal and Malkin are untouchable and lets say i humor u for a moment and say they are to be traded, they would fetch alot more then just Sundin who is on the end of his contract.

Your TB and SJS trades are impossible because that would put the Leafs over the cap (i know its fun to speculate but it has to be realistic so cap has to be factored).

Your #2 and 5 trades are a bit better but i believe Sundin can get more from Pittsburg. IMO Malone doesnt have much worth, i love Letang, dont konw about Stone but im sure hes a decent prospect. So to make that trade fair i would take out Malone and include Pittsburg's first round pick and that seems better.

To PIT: Sundin
To TOR: Letang, Stone, 1st round pick

I like your CBJ trade the way it is tho because i think it is fair, however i wouldnt want it to happen because Zherdev has a Yashin like attitude and Brule is a bandage boy.

All speculation aside, Sundin is going nowere unless the leafs loose 12-15 out of the next 20.

By: habsgod

habsgod — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:00:57 +0000

no i didn't start just watching hockey yeah i saw whatolder players at the deadline werefetching!!tell me witch older player yeilded that kind of return?marleau,bernier and a pick,malkin,letang malone and a pick!!god seriously man!!yeah youu'd get something for him but nothing like what he's dreaming about!!!get a grip on reality!!!yeah he would help teams(sundin)but he will never land you guys the stuff he wrote in his article!!!!and if you think otherwise!!then *****ing wake up and give your head a serious shake!!if that the case they why haven't you guys done it yet?besides he 's loyal to a fault and will retire in your guys sweater!!because he loves there more than winning the cup!!!

By: habsgod

habsgod — Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:53:56 +0000

look i don't hate sundin the guy is class act and is a great player!!but comeon some of these trades he was suggesting are lidicris!!did pittsburgh get anything for a 39 yr old recchi?i'm not saying that they won'tget anything for him but not the stuff he's suggesting no 37yr old maybe with the acception of sakic is worth that !!and he won't even get colorado that much!!as i stated if you were to get that stuff kaberle would be the starting point!!!