Talking trade, draft

The Flyers have to dump salary now if they want to sign Hamhuis , so that’ll be a veteran. Now will it be center Jeff Carter , who many teams including the Wild covet, or will it be somebody like Simon Gagne or Daniel Briere or Matt Carle or even playoff stud Scottie Hartnell ? We will see this week.

Also, Preds GM David Poile has to be gearing up for something bigger. We will see, but the one thing about the Preds, they’ve got the reserve list (i.e. minor leaguers and prospects) to do something big. Great drafting, GMing there.

As for your Wild, GM Chuck Fletcher’s trying, but as he’s said repeatedly, he’s not going to make a splash just for the sake of making a splash. His next move has got to be the right move, which is why he’s also being so patient.

Just to give you an example, Florida GM Dale Tallon is aggressively shopping Nathan Horton around the league, including to the Wild. Horton will almost certainly be traded before his no-trade clause kicks in July 1.

If Fletcher wanted the goal scorer, he could probably get him and I’m sure he’s contemplated it. But since Horton’s got three years left at $4 million, $4.5 million and $5.5 million and the Wild needs a center more than a winger, Fletcher, I think, wants to be sure there are no other better moves to be made.

In other words, if the Wild doesn’t unload significant cap dollars, the Wild’s next move for that kind of salary could be its last for awhile. So you trade for Horton , and it could take the Wild out of other things this week, later in the summer or even a year from now. So he’s got to be sure the next trade is the perfect fit since it will inhibit him for some time in terms of salary-cap flexibility.

And again, while Horton surely would help the Wild’s top-6 if he gets back to being the talented 30-goal guy he is and rediscovers a love for the game that can sometimes be dissipated playing in Florida, the Wild really needs a center. I covered Horton down in Florida, and he’s definitely a winger in the NHL and I think feels the most comfortable on wing.

I’ll write more about free agency next week, but I’ve gotten lots of questions about whether the Wild is going to make a splash. Unless Fletcher dumps serious dollars this week, they just don’t have the salary-cap room to go after, say, an Ilya Kovalchuk . And quite frankly, until Mikko Koivu is inked to an extension, I just don’t see the Wild willing to commit long-term dollars to anybody unless it’s via trade where the salary cap is somewhat offset.

If the Wild can’t make any trades this week, it’ll have to be a little more active in the free-agent market than it wants to, but again, I’ll write after that after the draft and before free agency.

7 Responses to Talking trade, draft

  1. cam7777 says:

    It won't be Carle, who had a fantastic season.  Hartnell, Briere and Gagne all have NTC's, and presumably wouldn't waive them when the team is so close to winning a Stanley Cup.  The team says that Giroux is one of their untouchables.  That pretty much leaves Timonen, Carter, and VanRiemsdyk.

    It's unlikely that VanRiemsdyk would be the one moved, because he is still very cheap at only 1.675 million.  Timonen is well liked in Philly, but he's getting on, and it was pointed out during the playoffs that he wasn't terribly impressed with having his ice-time, and leadership role slashed by the arrival of Chris Pronger.  It's just a theory, and perhaps it's a bit out there, but maybe Timonen has said he will lift his NTC if the right team is interested, which would explain why the Flyers and the Leafs were talking yesterday, presumably about Kaberle.

    So my prediction is that Carter gets dealt to the Leafs for Kaberle, and then Timonen is shopped for a goalie and a right winger.  Maybe that's a tad redundant, but all the team's needs would be met, and Kaberle would be a better long-term option than Timonen.  This would be a lethal defense:

    Pronger – Carle
    Kaberle – Hamhuis
    Coburn – ________


    Maybe insert a free agent signing like Johnny Boychuk into that spot.

  2. colin_leafsforever says:

    If I was Burke, Carter would be the high prize that the Leafs need to get for Kaberle.
    We need a centre, and a big one, and Carter fits that perfectly. I was wishing at the time that Fletcher would pull the trigger on that deal a couple years ago.
    Hope it happens now.
    Pick up a bottom six winger (Armstrong?) and top six winger (Versteeg?) and include Sopel in that deal with the Hawks (Mitchell and Grabovski perhaps?).
    Could be a very good team pretty soon, but hey, maybe I'm just a stupid deluded Leaf fan who dreams too much.



    Makes sense to me, think we need a big scoring left winger who is Canadian as well. Looking forward to this week!!

  3. LeafsneedSteen says:

    Nashville is planning something big? Like what, avoiding bankruptcy?


    Timonen makes I think 8 million a year.. good luck trading that.. Carter will have to go, not because he sucks or anything, but just because hes the only guy with a NTC and actually has trade value.. I could see either Coburn or Carle going as well… Watch for Philly to make a draft day deal to get a first round pick, as they cannot take back any contracts.. And they still have to decide what to do with Leighton..

  5. cam7777 says:

    Timonen makes 7 million this year, but then his contract starts falling down-hill rapidly for the next two seasons.  He makes 5 million next year, and only 3 in the final year of his contract.  For a a lot of teams, 15 million for 3 years of Timonen would be a solid deal.  Of course, this is just pure speculation on my part.  It's more likely he doesn't want to leave Philly, but you never know.  It's the only thing I can think of that would result in Hamhuis being acquired AND Holmgren and Burke talking.

  6. reinjosh says:

    There financial issues are not even issues. Just stupid ideas that some fans have gotten in their heads. Granted they won't ever spend up to the cap but the moves they made don't signal financial trouble.

  7. Kev_Leafs says:

    Chicago isn't going to trade their roster players for other roster players.  Despite Mitchell's (likely) low salary next year, what they want are draft picks not 3.5 – 4 million in salary coming back, even if it means they ship out 5 million.  And they don't need a player like Grabovski (a hundred thousand dollars cheaper than Versteeg).  As has been widely speculated, it will likely take a 2nd round pick to pry Versteeg out of Chicago if the team takes Sopel too.  Are the Leafs going to trade next year's 2nd round pick too?

    If I were the Leafs, I would try to pry Beach out of Chicago by taking on a massive salary like in a deal for Huet and Sopel (8 million in cap space for Chicago & Leafs put them in the minors or Europe) or Campbell if he waives his NTC.  Leafs are going to trade Kaberle and we could find takers for Beauchemin in order to fit Campbell's salary, not that I overly like Campbell.  But Beach is a prospect that fits Burke's criteria of a gritty forward that scores.  If Chicago were to free up 7-8 million, that would allow them to keep/resign a majority of their core.  That being said, Beach would be a great ELC player to have on Chicago's roster for three seasons before demanding a raise, but by doing either of the deals with the Leafs, they could keep their core and try to win the cup again for a couple of seasons.  They're the ones to decide.

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