TEAMS UP AGAINST CAP

Anaheim, Colorado, Dallas, New Jersey up against cap. Look for trades! (source: www.tsn.ca)

—->Anaheim is $1,831,500 under the cap with two signings (Marshall and Popovic) undisclosed. They still need to sign Ruslan Salei and Samuel Pahlsson. That would leave them with a spare defenseman, and an extra forward or two to get, along with signing a backup. Someone might get moved, or more likely Anaheim will just settle for cheap alternatives.

—->Colorado is $831,628 OVER the cap, with J-M Liles’ salary undisclosed. They however do have 8 NHL level defensemen, so two could get moved. Boughner is the most likely, along with Straskins. That would free up about 2.4/2.5 million, which would be fine given they’d have 23 players under contract.

—->Dallas is $894,798 under the cap. This however is with 5 salaries undisclosed. They only have 6 defensemen. They have 14 forwards, but 3 goalies, two of which could be back-ups. It looks like a forward or two could be gone, probably Stu Barnes. Guerin might be on the block too, though with his huge salary there might not be alot of takers.

—->New Jersey is $1,267,206 under the cap. This is without Ahonen, Elias, Hale, Martin, Friesen, and White signed, and with only 5 defensemen. They also only have Brodeur signed with no backup, and their forwards only have 1 extra. Looks like someone could be on the move. It seems like Matvichuk (with Hale, Martin, and White behind him) at 1.368 million could go, along with possibly Brylin, at about 1.5 million. Another potential candiditate could be Madden, who for his skill level is pricy at over 3 million. He seems to be a key part of their plan, but with Kozlov, Gomez, and Parise, finances might make him expendible.


82 Responses to TEAMS UP AGAINST CAP

  1. H_E_DBL_HCKY_STCKS says:

    are you being serious, joking or just a moron?

  2. H_E_DBL_HCKY_STCKS says:

    as i understood it the bonuses didn’t count at all, now i’m not sure.

  3. GilaMonster says:

    yea but their balls are in a vice when it comes to guerin. with his salary they can’t be picky with who they get for him

  4. H_E_DBL_HCKY_STCKS says:

    Bates Battaglia, Vladimir Orzagh, Alexei Smirnov, Mariusz Czerkawski, Jan Hlavac, Andrei Nikolishin, Steve Thomas, Mike Bishai, Andreas Lilja, Magnus Arvedson, Jeff Heerema. As a Leaf fan I would be interested in signing 1 or 2 of these players, they could be very useful filler players for the up coming season.

    I’m more than sure they can be had for league minimum. What does everyone else think? I smell some Leaf bashing on the way just because I mentioned them and the possibility of signing players……

    LEAF FANS BREAK OUT YOUR HELMETS AND BULLETPROOF VESTS THE FIRING SQUAD IS READY TO BUST CAPS.

  5. edmontonrules says:

    How in God’s green earth will Dallas ever get rid of Guerin? I really don’t know why they didn’t buy him out when they had the chance. The only way anyone would take him is of Dallas pays most of his salary. I’m not sure but does that count against your salary cap?

  6. Giant_571 says:

    I’m pretty sure the bonuses if not paid for this year will count against next years cap. This is why JFJ is including the Allison bonuses in this years cap so he doesn’t have to next year, which is retarded because that was the whole reason on signing him.

  7. edmontonrules says:

    Belfour could get 40…….. 40 penalty minutes. The dude wasn’t comparing the talent of Belfour and Guerin. Why so defensive?

  8. brewstar03 says:

    Dallas is currently at 36.1 million since Morrow re-signed.

  9. NemiNA says:

    Good article. Different, I like it.

  10. AltersEgo says:

    This was uncalled for dumbass. There’s no need to bash the leafs when there wasn’t even a mention of them in the article.

  11. lukeleim says:

    Ya i noticed that on tsn.ca actually a while ago. I wonder what kind of trades can be expected from these teams. I think petr sykora is on the block. In colorado i dunno.

  12. Bishop7979 says:

    As far as NJ is concerned, they have some very servicable players, who are getting paid a reasonable sum to use as trade bait. there are teams out there that have room under the cap and are looking for a 2nd line player such as Kozlov or Freisen. San Jose, Florida, Atlanta, (how rough for the announcer would it be to have slava and Victor kozlov on the same line?) Washington, Pittsburgh, minnasota all spring to mind. Both Players have the ability to play all 3 forward positions and have a decent mix of size and skill, even if kozlov plays more like a player 6ft and under.

    In fact I remember reading a rumor that if the devils hit the cap wall that Florida was interested in getting Kozlov back on the team, I dont think he would be much of a Keenan type player, but you never know.

    was this posted pre selanne signig for the ducks, because if so Teamue is getting 1 mil for this year. Also does this include the fact that chistov has gone back to russia to try to find his game? If not thats close to a million bucks taken back from the cap.

  13. Bishop7979 says:

    calm down kiddo, jeez

  14. Bishop7979 says:

    I expect some poaching of other teams players as well. I know players from the pens like Kraft, Morozov, Orpik and Malone all all RFAs right now and accoridng to a local paper any team that would sign them away would only lose a 2nd round pick. For someone like Orpik or Malone who is entering only their second year, and had strong years on a horrid team this past season a 2nd round pick doenst seem like too much of a price for teams that might not have many younger players developed and ready for the NHL.

  15. simplyhabby says:

    Leafy, it all depends what is in the CBA and Nolan’s contract. If there is a recurssion clause regarding an injury that you need to satisfy a period of time of “fit to play” before it would be considered a new injury, that can change the whole spectrum of the case.

    This clause is very common in a typical disability contract in insurance and it stands to reason that an NHL contract would have the same specially when there is a clause when an injured player (injury due to hockey) cannot be bought out. They must define an injury to be able to enforce this clause.

  16. goleafsgo1991 says:

    The Hockey News, AUgust 2005, Volume 58, No. 33, “Brint It On”, Page 9, Column 3, Paragraphs 5 & 6.

    “A hard cap including team payroll ceilings and floors will be established via a link ro a percentage of the gross hockey-related revenues as defined by the agreement. Based on 54 percent of a projected $1.7 billion in revenue this season, the team upper limit will be set at $39 million and the minimum mandated at $21.5 million, with $2 million of that amount per team dedicated to ancilary player costs.

    To place this in context, 18 of the league’s 30 teams began 2003-04 with payrolls greater than $37.8 million, or $800,000 MORE than the cap will be for 2005-06, though that didn’t include either Stanley Cup champion Tampa Bay or Western Conference champion Calgary. Indeed, the league’s top 15 payroll clubs etnering this season combined to win a total of six play-off series.”

  17. goleafsgo1991 says:

    It included the payrolls on TSN on August 22 @ 18:27:42 CDT including Selanne.

  18. goleafsgo1991 says:

    The Hockey News, AUgust 2005, Volume 58, No. 33, “Brint It On”, Page 9, Column 3, Paragraphs 5 & 6.

    “A hard cap including team payroll ceilings and floors will be established via a link ro a percentage of the gross hockey-related revenues as defined by the agreement. Based on 54 percent of a projected $1.7 billion in revenue this season, the team upper limit will be set at $39 million and the minimum mandated at $21.5 million, with $2 million of that amount per team dedicated to ancilary player costs.

    To place this in context, 18 of the league’s 30 teams began 2003-04 with payrolls greater than $37.8 million, or $800,000 MORE than the cap will be for 2005-06, though that didn’t include either Stanley Cup champion Tampa Bay or Western Conference champion Calgary. Indeed, the league’s top 15 payroll clubs etnering this season combined to win a total of six play-off series.”

  19. quick_stick says:

    When this was first coming about, I saw an interview with JFJ saying they had approached the league and Nolan’s salary won’t be an issue regardless. It’s a special cir*****stance that won’t occur again. (missing the one time buy out at the start of this CBA)

  20. quick_stick says:

    For Certain, it’s been reported tons of times. If Alison’s bonus’ go over the cap this year they WILL count towards next years cap.

  21. quick_stick says:

    Hey, I like Guerin, but with his cost, they’ll get nothing in return. I’d be surprised to see a mid range prospect and a 3rd round pick come back for him.

  22. bermudashorts12 says:

    If you look at NHL.com, the salary cap is $39m which includes salary and bonus. I think that insurance and benefits fall outside the cap.

    When looking at TSN.ca, consider the roster maximums. Colorado’s listed salary is $37.8 plus Liles for 25 players. Since the roster max is 23, it might be assumed that two of those 450k deals are for rookies or youngsters who will start in the AHL. So really, Colorado would have $36.8, plus Liles which gets them away from the cap.

    New Jersey is in major trouble. The $35.7m they’ve spent is only on 18 guys. They have to sign a goalie and a few of their RFA’s aren’t going to be signed for the minimum. If Elias is ready to return this team has some logistical problems with the cap.

  23. simplyhabby says:

    The CBA (old and new) indicates you could not buy out a player when they are injured as a direct incurssion (degenerative conditions expempted). The issue here is was Nolan cleared to play long enough before he needed to have surgery to satisfy the buy out as a player that was not injured.

    I am sure Nolan’s argument is the surgery was a direct result of the injury that put him out of the playoffs hence, he is not able to be bought out and continue to receive salary.

    I see these type of cases all the time in my profession and generally result in a settlement (more then whay Nolan’s buy out is) but that will all depend on the fine print and the arguments by both sides.

  24. cecilturtle says:

    YOUR INFORMATION IS FLAUD!!! One cannot get an exact payroll figure. Go to tsn.ca, hlpa.com, or any other site… For Example look at the Rangers team payroll… (IE) Jagr is making over 8 million and all 8+ million counts towards the Rangers cap. But outside of Fantisy Land, LI. – Only half of Jagr’s contract counts towards the Rangers payroll and the other half is on Washingtons cap.

    Then you have players which were offered one year qualifying offers by their teams, but did not sign yet because the team and player are haggling over a multi year contract with possibly a staggard yearly contract to help with the cap. (IE): A player is listed for 1 million per year because that was the qualifying offer made by the team. Next week though the player & team agree on a 2 year deal paying the player $300,000 this year and 1.8 million the next year. But as of now the player is listed at 1 million per because all the sites list qualifying offers. On top of that, how many players signed contracts listed as undisclosed? Ect.

    Lets face it! A team might look like they are having cap trouble??? But more likely your information is flaud!!! Your entire posting is unfortunately just an uneducated guess! Someone please prove me wrong… I wish we were able to get exact figures on this stuff. Its just not possible! Am I wrong?

    Cecil Turtle

  25. Damian78 says:

    I think they will trade either Kozlov or Friesen. I don’t see them trading madden or giving up on any defenseman since they lost Nieds and haven’t had a decision from Scott Stevens.

  26. goleafsgo1991 says:

    I didn’t include undisclosed….that means its no matter what if they’re having trouble AND they have undisclosed salaries they’re really in trouble. And TSN only coutns qualifying offers if they were signed, meaning the player can only discuss an extension starting in January and the qualifying offer is this year’s salary.

  27. DomiforPrimeMinister says:

    The Leafs have the choice to put Allison’s bonuses this year or next!

  28. goleafsgo1991 says:

    The Hockey News, AUgust 2005, Volume 58, No. 33, “Brint It On”, Page 9, Column 3, Paragraphs 5 & 6.

    “A hard cap including team payroll ceilings and floors will be established via a link ro a percentage of the gross hockey-related revenues as defined by the agreement. Based on 54 percent of a projected $1.7 billion in revenue this season, the team upper limit will be set at $39 million and the minimum mandated at $21.5 million, with $2 million of that amount per team dedicated to ancilary player costs.

    To place this in context, 18 of the league’s 30 teams began 2003-04 with payrolls greater than $37.8 million, or $800,000 MORE than the cap will be for 2005-06, though that didn’t include either Stanley Cup champion Tampa Bay or Western Conference champion Calgary. Indeed, the league’s top 15 payroll clubs etnering this season combined to win a total of six play-off series.”

  29. cecilturtle says:

    Thanks for explaining the how the qualifying offers effect the cap. Still is frustrating though with players like Jagr… Wich tsn.ca just changed today, but still does not have the exact breakdown of the cap expence % $. Also, undisclosed and rookie contracts are not listed. Also some rookies have contracts that are not listed because they are not a well known name or are not expected to make the team. How does that work?

    Cecil Turtle

  30. goleafsgo1991 says:

    The only numbers included are the actual numbers that are revealed. Every other contract no matter what would only make the number go up. I took Nolan off Toronto however

  31. JeffBurnz09 says:

    I’m still amazed Dallas could be so close to the cap and have basically nothing to show for it. They’re team is basically Guerin, and hopefully, Modano returns to form this year. Aside from that, there’s Morrow, who isn’t that good, and Arnott, who never became the player everyone thought he would. Zubov is solid on D, Boucher is alright…Turco is good until the playoffs, and then he looks as out of place as a top name free agent at a Maple Leafs news conferance in July.

    Guerin’s got to go. He’s still a good player, but his contract is just crippling the team…but if they trade him, he’ll cripple another team, so who would want him? I like Barnes, and would like to keep him, but he seems to be the odd man out. They need to free up salary, and Barnes could be moved.

    The Stars are a mess right now. I think the next few years will be Guerin playing out his contract, and Modano playing out his career on a weak team, and once they’re contracts are gone the re-building begins.

  32. cecilturtle says:

    Thank you for the website & info… Very informative.

    Peace!

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