That's it for the Leafs!

John Ferguson has said that he is done revamping the the Leafs for this season unless some crazy trade purposal comes along.

Matt Stajan is the only one left to sign and JFJ is very confident that he will.

Now the real question is: Are the Leafs any better this year than the last?

I’m sure 60% of the fans will “yes” and 40% will say “no”.

Well, lets take a look at the Pro’s and Con’s of some of the movements JFJ has done this off season.

Pro’s on releases

He let go of Ed Belfour, Tie Domi, Aki Berg, Alex Khavanov, and Luke Richardson.

You had to start by getting rid of the players that were costing the team money and any sort of success on the ice.

Jason Allison – He put up some points put in the end he cost more points than he put in and when he got injured the team jumped a notch in speed so that just says he’s too slow for this style of game. Don’t get me wrong though, he could be a great fit for a team that needs powerplay help.

Pat Quinn – He did a lot for the organization but it was evident that the team needed some drastic changes starting at the bench.

Con’s on Releases

Let Eric Lindros go. His time with the Leafs will be remembered. I could still hear the chants in crowd at the ACC when he hit the ice in the early games of the season …… but he is one hit away from ending his career so this may not be a total con.

Aquisition Pro’s

PAUL MAURICE!!!! The biggest move JFJ did and no one with half a brain could deny this fact.

Andrew Raycroft – For the cost, you can’t go wrong. I wouldn’t really say he had a bad year last year considering he didn’ t even play an entire season. His Calder year will still strongly out weigh his sub par 30 games last season and I wouldn’t blame those bad games entirely on him considering the team he had in front of him.

Kubina and Gill – I don’t care what people say about being over paid because everywhere in professional sports players are overpaid. Here is a question for everyone who thinks they are overpaid: Do you really think that if JFJ said “Here is my only offer – $2Mil to anyone that wants to play for Toronto!” Do you think anyone would have signed with 6 – 10 other teams willing to offer more?? I’ll tell you right now JFJ would have got no one and you still would be complaining because the Leafs got nobody….. and NO JFJ would not have got McKee for $2MIL.

With these acquistions we have a 2 solid defencive lines that will be great on the power play which would leave 3 possible slots for Harrison, Bell, White, Kronwall, Coliacovo, and Wozniewski to fight over….. it’s going to be a fun camp!!!

Michael Peca – His performance in the playoffs proved to everyone that he could still be an effective two way player. He took a pay cut and he’s on board for a year. If this 2 time Selke winner could step his game up this season, we could have found our second solid centre.

Acquisition Con

They didn’t get a winger for Sundin. Due to limited funds the Leafs could not afford to pick up a winger this off season but that doesn’t close the door on a possible trade in the future. The Leafs have a handfull of young players and a goalie by the name of Mikael Telqvist that could easily be used as trade bait.

Not picking up a winger, which in my eyes the most effective player for Sundin would have been Elias, means that this will allow the young players to step up. Wellwood and Steen had decent rookie years and I’m sure given the ice time, which we knew Quinn was reluctant to give, they could produce a lot more this year.

Poni stepped it up this past year scoring over 20 goals and Stajan ranked 1st in the league shorthanded goals.

Tucker scored 61 points this past year and McCabe racked up 68 points putting him 3rd amongst all defencemen.

So my point is, was scoring really the issue last year or was it defence…. or was it coaching?

Well the team ranked 9th in overall scoring so I don’t think that was the real problem.

Kubina and Gill are definite upgrades from Berg and Belak so you could say we got that area covered.

Maurice is coaching style will definitely make sure that the players will be well conditioned to play this new style of play so that area is covered.

Raycroft is young and healthy and ready to prove to the Leafs Nation that he could be better than his Calder Trophy year. He will have to watch his back though because JS Aubin will be right behind him and he knows that he has become a fan favourite.

So this area is also covered.

In conclusion, the team could always look better…. any team could look better but more importantly, it IS an upgrade from last years team. The team is younger, tougher and quicker…. but I’m sure many of you are not convinced.

I guess we’ll have to wait and see.


227 Responses to That's it for the Leafs!

  1. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    But odds are with 3 question makes one of them will rise as the starting goalie. My money’s on Raycroft.

  2. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    Well the 39 years argumant is useless from a sens fan because the sens have NEVER won the cup. The basic argument is Sens win during the season Leafs win in the playoffs. but stuff like this would never happen if leaf hating sens fans stopped coming in to a leaf thread and bashing the leafs.

  3. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    We sould have a 24 team league, but Bettman brought some not so hockeyloving markets into the mix and, now teams are in debt, and we have a lockout, and the sport of hockey is reduced to a shootout, a penalty parade and less physical play.

  4. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    It doesn’t matter Sundin and Mogilney had 3 years where they were fabulas. Mogilneys a playmaker, goals aren’t his specialty. However Sundin finished second in the League in scoring when Mogilney was on his wing.

  5. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    Don’t forget McCabe and Kaberle, and The eafs scoring will come from the whole team, not just the top players. Poni scored 20 Goals, hows he “more of a penalty killer and third line player”

  6. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    Certers can play on the wing. Steen has adjusted to the wing, and Stajan will likly have to as well, other than that theres no problem. If thers any team that can’t afford Gionta MORE than Jersey its the leafs.

  7. bpanther83 says:

    Me to cause at least it was a Canadian Team. I just see them doing what anaheim did the year after they took a run.

  8. jouby says:

    Except for the year he won his trophies, they are very comparable to Aebisher’s.

  9. ShadysBackRJ says:

    not signing lindros was a ad move by the leafs, but he only played in 33 games so its not going to impact them that much

  10. mrleaffan says:

    I never said leaf fans don’t bash other teams fans. It’s unfortunate and i’m not a fan of those fans, because when leaf fans bash fans, like hab fans and sens fans, it just fans the fire, and there isn’t nothing more annoying than fans bashing fans, be it leaf fans and sens fans, when we are all just fans wanting to be fans, am i right fans?

  11. habsoverserver says:

    Mogilny has 20 fewer goals than Sundin but 120 fewer assists. Mogliny has two 50 goal + seasons, Sundin has none. Sundin is by far a better playmaker and AlMo is the better goal scorer. Need i remind you that AlMo is one of only six NHL players who have ever scorer over 75 goals in a season. If 76 goals in 77 games doesn’t make goals your specialty, then nothing does.

    When Sundin played with Mogiliny, his goal totals were 41, 37 and 31 and his point totals were 74, 80 and 72. When you compare this Sundin’s prior three seasons you get goal totals of 31, 32 and 28. When you compare the point totals you get 83, 73, 74. Overall a slight change in goals but no improvement in points with or without Mogilny.

    I don’t understand why you think that ending up with the same point totals with or without Mogilny equates to “3 years where they were fabulous.”

  12. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    maybe i’m wrong, but when i saw Mogilney and Sundin together, they were truly amazing. Also you should note that Sundin and Mogilney did not play together all the time as quinn shuffled the lineup every week.

  13. bpanther83 says:

    They would have to do more than Antrapov. They would have to give up Stajan and prolly another top prospect. But heh I htink it could be worth it. I don’t think Gionta is old is he?

  14. bpanther83 says:

    How was it a bad move? If the Leafs would of resigned him everyone would be on their ass for resigning an injury prone player who will be out most the year. 90% of the posts would be ass of comments of people laughing at them. The only reason why people say they should of is because they didnt. If they did, everyone would be saying they shouldnt. Its retarded.

  15. 19AVSFANFoLIFE19 says:

    Aebischer shouldnt have been bailed on he deserved another chance.

  16. 19AVSFANFoLIFE19 says:

    he lead the league or was close to it in short handed tallies. would that not qualify him as a penalty killer? or do you think as soon as you score 20 goals your automatically a 1st line player?

  17. nyrhockey094 says:

    Black Panthers LMFAO!!! Black Panthers = a organization for blacks to ***** and moan. So go ahead and join in with them and help ruin the U.S. even more then it is. Stick to basketball buddy.

  18. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    Yeah we had a goal scorer on the powerplay, because last year we had no penalty killers. YOU said he was no more than a 3rd liner and a PK guy I said he can do more than that as he got 20 goals playing a lot of 3rd line and PK minutes. He should be in the 2nd line with Peca.

  19. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    keep your racist remarks to yourself

  20. habsoverserver says:

    I don’t mean to knock Mogilny. The guy is a great scorer and he did have great chemistry with LaFontaine, Linden, Gomez and Sundin. But, Toronto didn’t get him until he was 33-35 years old, which was a little past his prime. If he had played with Sundin 10 years earlier it would have been better.

    My point is that Toronto failed to build a team around Sundin. I think Toronto could have achieved greter success in the past by adding more skill players alongside Sundin.

  21. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    Well we had Roberts too. I had no doubts that Quinn built the Leafs around Sundin, but JFJ came along and ruined that. But to say that the Leafs ruined the Career of Mats by not giving him a winger is rediculas.

  22. habsoverserver says:

    you’re right. they didn’t ruin his career. they wasted an opportunity to build around their franchise player.

    the leafs were clever enough to get the most talented player in their franchise since sittler and they didn’t sufficiently capitalize on it.

    here’s another way of saying it – sundin might be the most talented forward in NHL history who has not played in the finals. if it’s not sundin it would be either sittler, stastny, goulet, gartner or dionne.

    At least Sittler had MacDonald, Stastny and Goulet had eachother and Dionne had Nicholls.

  23. Scottman75 says:

    You’re one to talk.

    Have a good look at the Oilers line up.

    If the Oilers make it to the Stanely Cup final next year, I will BUY you a ticket of your choice!

  24. John_Connor says:

    Lupul gets 40 goals this year. Peca won’t be missed (at least, his regular season contribution won’t). Samsonov was only there at the end… they have lots of young forwards and will get by without him. Pronger is of course a huge loss though and there’s no replacing him.

    Taken all together, I think Edmonton misses the playoffs. Other teams in the West (Minnesota, Phoenix, Vancouver,…) all stand a good chance of passing them.

  25. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    i agree with that, Anaheim was dumb to trade Lupul.

  26. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    can’t argue with that

  27. leafmeister says:

    oilers suck

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