The fellowship of the Leafs

Why is it that we’ve come to expect so much of a mediocre team………?For the past few decades the fans of the Toronto Maple Leafs I feel have come to expect to much of this team. I mean sure we are loyal and will always be there for them, but what has the team done for us lately. With almost no cup final appearances since we last one the cup. What is it that drive’s us to remain fans of this team.

Is it the Captain or is it the constant lackluster performances that keep us going or maybe the fact that we get so close to the stanley cup only to see our team flop once more. In the past decade sure the Leafs have been to the East Finals but lost to teams they were better than. The Sabres in 99 The Hurricanes in 01 and The Devils in 02.

As a Leaf fan I can only support a team for so long before I have to look at the main cause of the problem. What is that you ask? Well management of course whens the last time the MLSE smucks actually took the time to make a team the fans wanted to see. So many times we’ve had the chance to grab a player that would have helped our team in the long run. Dany Heatley the Thrashers wanted the Leafs 1st round pick (Justin Pogge) and Jeff O’neill which would have been fine considering Jeff won’t be back next season. Chris Pronger Oilers wanted Steen and Kaberle whats wrong with this trade. Look where Pronger took the Oilers last season. And now the rumors are starting about the Leafs getting a trade ready that would apparently bring Vincent Lecavalier to the team.

We know as fans that this trade will likely not happen why?

The number 1 most important contributing factor JFJ……..

He doe’snt have the brass cahones to pull this move off I dont think he ever will.

So Leaf fans who can we expect to see in the Blue and White next season. I mean sure JFJ says he gonna make a big splash but who can we expect Ryan Smyth is the most likely candidate. I mean most Leaf fans have no problem with Captain Canada. But I think that 6 million dollars would be better spent on say a Danny Briere or a Scott Gomez.

What my main point is what have we come to expect from this mediocre team. I’m sad to say it but another couple years of broken dreams and promises.

The Source.

93 Responses to The fellowship of the Leafs

  1. JuicemaN says:

    Eklund is an idiot.

  2. BruMagnus says:

    Exactly! And then (most) Leafs fans use this as an argument for comparison with other smaller-market teams as if it's evidence their team is superior.

    All it shows is their fans are dedicated. No one is arguing that. The world knows Leafs fans are the most insane about their team.

    But as a previous post said, teams like Buffalo and Ottawa were both near bankrupty as well, and look at them now. So all the people that were flaming the Penguins had better watch out as we are clearly following in their footsteps. This year, one of them will WIN the Cup! As the East is stronger, even against the top 2 from the West.

    There was also the argument about Quebec going broke and then moving to Colorado, where, guess what, the team won in its first year! When I bring up this example (most) Leafs fans balk, and don't acknowledge the stupidity of the claims viz-a-viz bankruptcy.

    Yes, be proud that you have some of the strongest fans in the N. America. But don't think because you waste your money and line the Leafs brass pockets with gold that it makes you or your team superior. It just makes you suckers really.

  3. BruMagnus says:

    Actually you (Leafs fans) don't know that you haven't made the Cup final since 1967 as is CLEARLY evidenced from the post:

    "almost no cup final appearances since we last one [sic:won] the cup"

    there word almost is incorrect. the word absolutely or sadly would be more appropriate and correct.

  4. BruMagnus says:

    Leafs fans have come on to the Pens and Crosby boards numerous times. Anyways, I thought this was a general thread and not on the Leafs board (I accessed it through the HTR archive), my fault there.

    But to say I don't know my team is just ignorant dude. I know it more than almost anyone in N. America save Mike Lange and Mario Lemieux.

  5. BruMagnus says:

    It's WON not ONE!! Sort it out!

    You obviously don't have clever deductive skills if you cannot reason out that me wanting the Leafs to win so that they'd have played the Penguins rather than NJ during MARIO's comeback year (as in Mario Lemieux of the Pittsburgh Penguins) is direct evidence that I am a Pens, NOT SENS, fan.

    Pens Cup in 2010.

    Leafs Cup in 2067.

  6. BruMagnus says:

    hahaha, he's a plagiarist too eh?

  7. BruMagnus says:

    no its not.
    where was this defense during the Ottawa series then, sir?

  8. BruMagnus says:

    except on the Pens site where we don't make outlandish predictions of picking up half the UFAs out there when we have no cap room for it.

    It would take McCabe, Kaberle, Steen, Wellwood and a 1st rounder for
    Lecavalier, Kuba, Craig and a 2nd rounder

  9. BruMagnus says:

    You don't think they'd trade away Denis straight up for Raycroft?

    Personally Im wondering how good Tuuka Rask will be.

  10. BruMagnus says:

    hahaha, it seems even my biggest opponents have decided to side with me and agree Source knows sh*t all about the Leafs.

    So mojo19, who's the idiot now?

  11. BruMagnus says:

    So mojo19, are you agreeing with me that Source has no clue what he's talking about?

    Or are you calling both the person who posted this an idiot, and the person who called the original poster an idiot also an idiot??

    If X thinks A is true, and Y thinks A is false, and Z (you) thinks X and Y are both wrong, Z is an idiot.

    Choose your answer wisely for what you have done so far doesn't follow logically and only shows that it is indeed YOU that are the idiot, as I've shown all along.

  12. BruMagnus says:

    I couldn't agree with you more JuicemaN. Of late I seem to be doing a lot of that. Maybe I had better come onto these Leafs boards more often. 😉

  13. BruMagnus says:

    Agreed 100%.

    I said as much last year when I found out Eklund was a fraud, a paid man paid off to send false information to skew public thoughts and stir up problems with individual players and their teams.

    I have had more correct predictions pulled outta my ass than Eklund has. I think he's hitting at about 1% of his predictions last time I checked, which was not long ago enough.

  14. BruMagnus says:

    mojo19 is an idiot

  15. BruMagnus says:

    I find it quite funny and validating to learn that you ALL Agree the source is a terrible writer and knows nothing about hockey, and it's interesting to note that *I* was the FIRST one to post such and got initially flamed for it until the source showed his ignorance further and people started to 'side' with me (read: agree the source knows nothing).

    If Leafs fans didn't have such large egos and would admit to being wrong, I could see myself being friends with some of them. In reality, I do have a couple Leafs friends, and to their credit they are nowhere near as insane as you guys or as the local Canucks fans.

  16. BruMagnus says:

    "I don rarely have"…. simply incredible

    If you meant "I don't rarely have", this is in essence a double negative and makes no sense. Even a child writer knows this.

    If you mean "I do rarely have", the word 'do' is superfluous. Don't know what that means? Look it up in what we call a dictionary, a big book that we use to look up difficult words, like Idiot and Liar.

  17. BruMagnus says:

    mojo19 is an idiot.

    on Monday, May 07 @ 23:41:09 CDT in response to my post on Monday, May 07 @ 04:43:14 CDT mojo19 flamed me and called me an idiot for POSTING THE EXACT SAME THING he just now did, but with details.

    what's REALLY interesting about this is that he posted this article BEFORE he flamed me: on Monday, May 07 @ 23:35:30 CDT.

    so he either read the article first, and posted this. then read other people's notes, including mine which said the exact same thing in more detail, and decided that *I* was an idiot for saying the same thing he did. Result: mojo19 is an idiot, as I've said all along.


    he read my post first, figured I was right, decided to copy me and post what had already been written, then go back and flame me just as above. Result: mojo19 is an idiot, as I've said all along.

    I think no1 is what happened and more likely, but knowing mojo19 who knows! Either way, the result is the same, with his own words and my excellent research skills I have PROVED BEYOND A DOUBT what I've said all along: mojo19 is an idiot.

  18. BruMagnus says:

    Having said the above, if you want to keep publishing articles, go ahead, by all means it is your right.

    But if you want people to RESPECT you and what you write, then for GODSAKE please do a little research and at least read over what you've written, maybe put it through a spellcheck like MS Word first. However, I doubt even these will do much. When it comes down to it, it's opinions that are judged, and if someone says something that people don't agree with, I mean based on opinion not fact (which is easily discredited), they will flame him/her because they know no other way to respond to their superiors.

  19. JuicemaN says:

    I didn't say you didn't know your team, I said you put more time into hating the leafs and bothering their fans than you do reading about your own team.

    If a Leaf fan is saying "Leafs rule, they'll win the cup next year" then by all means jump on them and make fnu of them, they deserve it….kind of like how Leafy posts; he's happy one minute with Raycroft and then saying he sucks the next.

    But your above post wasn't nessesary for this article, it was simply you going out of your way to try and annoy us.

  20. JuicemaN says:

    I know, seriously it's in every *****cing article that is about the Leafs…even if someone is talking about an assistant coaching change someone feels the need to post the line-up after the signing.

    Those line-up predictions are about as dumb as a politician saying "we'll do this, this, this and this and then in the year 2010 thanks to our ackonplishments we'll be driving flying cars and everything will run on solar energy"

    It NEVER WORKS OUT THAT WAY….EVER!!!!! post your damn rumor or what you want to happen but to take the time to type out the possible line up is ridiculous.

    Here how about I get it out of the way for everyone right now…here is the team everyone would like the Leafs to have….this will NOT happen just as likely as any other dumb-a$$ prediction by unrealistic Leaf fans:

    heatley – Crosby – Kovalchuk
    Malkin – sundin – Gagne
    Hossa – Spezza – Ovechkin
    Iginla – Lecavalier – St.Louis

    Pronger – Neidermier
    Kaberle – Phanuef
    Gonchar – Whitney


    There you have it, the team every leaf fan would love to have; now piss off with your "potential line-up" crap.

    PS – you need not say "I wouldn't have <insert name here>" on account of "I DON'T CARE".

  21. JuicemaN says:

    Heh heh, see dude, I'm not that bad of a guy, I just get annoyed when people unnessesarily put down the leafs and mention the 1967 thing….it's just been done so many times.

    I was just thinking the same thing though, that more and more I was agreeing with you…I'm actually one of the 5 realistic Leaf fans out there…most people seem to know it on this board…many Leaf fans don't like me because I tell it like it is and not like "we wish it would be".

    Also they hate the fact that I think Don Cherry is a completely racist biggot and is a perfect example of what Canadians shouldn't be.

  22. JuicemaN says:

    "for GODSAKE please do a little research and at least read over what you've written"

    It's funny cause it's true.

    Although I could care a less about people's spelling mistakes as this is not a spelling contest but if you're going to post and start spitting off facts and stats then at least make sure you're right before you say it.

  23. TheSource2659 says:

    I'm sorry I was typing so fast that I forgot to erase that don part I don't know what it's doing there.

    Anyways I will say this one more time my article was'nt about stats it's about the moronic state of the MLSE and the fact that they can't decide what they wanna do with JFJ. And that all they care about is money and not the fans why is that you argue with me instead of just saying that you agree with what I've wrote and then just let that be it. I'm sorry about a few mistakes in my stats it's not the end of the world by any stretch of the imagination I wish you guy's would read what I've wrote and stop being the dumbass highschool kids that your coming of to be.

  24. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    actually mojo19 is quite smart. I've always found what he has to say interesting. i stopped looking at most of youthreads because its all leaf bashing and crosby worshiping.

  25. Sedin23 says:

    Does your company care when you keep making mistakes?

  26. Sedin23 says:

    Ok if your your in the Toronto Sun whats your name? We would have seen your name if you wrote a newspaper. Your name would be at the begining.

  27. mojo19 says:

    Besides Rafalski being a good defensman, they don't have a lot. Paul Martin? David Hale for most of the year during those shutouts who was shipped to Calgary. Lukowich? I'm sorry but Brodeur had an amazing season and his Hart Trophy nomination should be proof enough.

  28. mojo19 says:

    Well you still both are, but for two completely different reasons.

    By the way, (Brumangus) if you want to look less needy and insecure stop telling everyone what your correct predictions were. You bragged about predicting Malkin would be a superstar as if you were the only one, I said he would be too, but I don't tell everyone "hey I called that" because it was pretty obvious and pretty much anyone in the hockey world knew that. This is one example of why I think you're kind of a loser, but the more I read some of your posts the more I realize you do know hockey pretty well so I'll lay off you for a while. Just try to realize that you won't be such a loser if you can just be content with yourself knowing that you know hockey and stop trying to convince everyone else that you know hockey, a lot of people know hockey. Thanks little guy.

  29. mojo19 says:

    The problem is that you actually do know a lot about hockey but no one would ever know because 1/2 your posts are about hockey, and 1/2 are you trying to convince other people that you know what you're talking about, stop trying to convince everyone and write what you feel, if someone disagree's then do what I do, think in your own head, "well I know a lot more about hockey than this guy" and don't dwell on it, writing and explaining to everyone how you were right. You actually make yourself look worse by telling people how right you (think you) are all the time, and you're not convincing anyone. Less is more, trust me, the only people reading are feuds are you and me, no one else gives a shit. You'll be alright you just need to tone it back a notch.

  30. BruMagnus says:

    Ya I do apologize as I was unaware this was the Leafs board having accessed it via the HTR archives.

    The fact that back-to-back days and 2 of 4 posts on the main board are Leafs posts is quite disgusting though. I did think I should put the Leafs in their place and let them know they have never made the Cup Finals since '67.

  31. BruMagnus says:

    Make Kipper the first goalie and I guarantee that team would win the Cup at last… although given Team Canada's poor performance last Olympics who knows.

  32. BruMagnus says:

    this could be the start of a beautiful relationship… haha

    I hate Don Cherry. He wanted Canada to send our troops needlessly to get killed in Iraq. He's a senile old fart as I've said repetitively. All he does on Coach's Corner is find some obscure segment of his from years ago that proves some irrelevant point today, but he never shows the 70-85% of the times that he is dead wrong. I do like how he loves Staal, but the reason for it is so biased that it discredits his voice. I feel sooo sorry for Ron McLean, you can tell how much more he LOVES being with Kelly Hrudey, it's actually quite funny to watch because he's like a puppy dog cuz it's such a welcome change from the hell he goes through trying to 'control' Cherry and his insane outbursts.

  33. BruMagnus says:

    I guess this is as close to an apology and acceptance of defeat from you as I'll ever get.

  34. BruMagnus says:

    This is probably the best post you've ever written.

  35. BruMagnus says:

    Especially if he claims to be a righter (his spelling) of major hockey publications.

    I mean I'm quite sure NO ONE on this forum actually believes he has published anything in the Toronto Star or Hockey News.

  36. mojo19 says:

    By the way, I read thesource's article then posted this, then went through and read everyone's comments. And I'm not sure that you did correct him on the same mistake that I corrected him on, but its hard to find because you write a lot of stuff.

  37. leafsfan93 says:

    what's with you sayin all of us have daddy issues?? lol it makes no sense and it has nothing to do with hockey!! name an article you wrote in the sun!! oh wait you're only gonna say no cause i have daddy issues. lol 

  38. BruMagnus says:

    Then you called me an idiot without reading what I wrote when I wrote exactly what you did. For your sake I'll repost the part:

    "Please don't post here again. You don't even know what you are talking about. You have your years mixed up, incorrect facts, and saying that they lost the East Finals to teams that they were better than is just ignorant and stupid. So you lost 3 of 3 times, but in all 3 times you were actually better right? Get over it. You were WORSE. MUCH WORSE! And in fact you only made it to the Semifinals twice.
    Here, I will help you so you don't make dumb errors again:

    In 1999, they lost to Buffalo in 5 games…. yup, they were definetely better! Buffalo could have won the Cup if it wasn't for the infamous skate-in-the-crease-Cup-winning-goal that wasn't called off. Dallas would have swept Toronto.

    Next, it was in '02 that they lost to the Hurricanes, not '01. They lost in 6 games, to clearly the better team. It is too bad that they didn't win as it would have been nice to see the Wings sweep them in an original 6 matchup Finals.

    In '01 they lost to the Devils in the Conference SEMIFINALS (having ALSO lost to them the previous year in the Conference semifinals in 6), which I hope they wouldn't have, because that was Mario's comeback year and I knew if we had to play the Devils we'd lose but that we'd have easily beaten the Leafs. Damnit, the Leafs were up 3 games to 2, and lost to the SUPERIOR Devils, who then went on to tool the Penguins, and were also up 3-2 vs the Aves in games, only to have them comeback and win for Ray Bourque. Blah blah blah Ray Bourque… blah blah Bourque Bourque Bourque. We all remember that. So they lost back-to-back Conference Semifinals to the inferior Devils, right?

    Give your head several shakes."

  39. BruMagnus says:

    haha, good question

  40. mojo19 says:

    You don't have to go through all that work for me, I didn't read it the first time you posted it and I'm not going to read it now. I'll just assume you and I both know it was Buffalo in '99, Canes in '02 and thats it.

  41. BruMagnus says:

    Then don't call me an idiot when you don't know what you are talking about and make it so easy to be shown to be the actual moron.

    I don't want to make fun of you or any fans, it's just that most of you make it so easy, and usually necessary, to show you for the weak, unintelligent fans you are.

    I want to have serious discussion with intelligent, informed people. I think I'm looking in the wrong place.

  42. BruMagnus says:

    BLUE AND WHITE is an idiot.

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