Comments on: The Latest Rumors, Devils on Thin Ice, Moby Wang

By: UWSensFan

UWSensFan — Sun, 23 Jul 2006 23:03:00 +0000

I seem to remember hearing that it worked somewhat like this:

you can be over the cap by as much as 10% for *any* period of time in the year, so long as your TOTAL player salaries (paid) was less than or equal to the cap by the end of the year.

For whatever time (at the end of the year? I can only guess) they would be exceeding the cap (so, let's say that it's from game #72), they would be forced to forfeit (and could not use the same roster in the post-season, I imagine). This situation would have the Devils (this example) losing games 72 through 82 inclusively (thus, losing 11 games where their salary would have put them over the cap)

Then again, I could have just misunderstood that angle...but it would definitely be unfair for the teams that had to play the Devils rather than have the forfeitted win...

By: Kamakaze

Kamakaze — Sat, 22 Jul 2006 14:30:20 +0000

Why hasn't anyone discussed the POSSABILITY that the Devil's would trade Mogilny and McGillis?

Isn't that somewhere in the ballpark of about 4-5 Million for the two of them? Maybe more?

Obviously the problem then becomes, well who do they trade to? who would want them?

But I think Mogilny could garner some interest. At this point I'd give him away for nice duffle bag, same goes for McGillis...

By: Tweek

Tweek — Sat, 22 Jul 2006 14:08:26 +0000

I say the Oil chase down Rafalski.

By: wheresthesoda

wheresthesoda — Sat, 22 Jul 2006 11:18:44 +0000

well moore was traded to make room at center, for jarko immonen

By: wizard36

wizard36 — Sat, 22 Jul 2006 07:50:36 +0000

I think a trade involving Gomez is most likely. We have a few good young centers, and they would be better off trading Gomez than giving up a good checker and great leader in Madden and the only two defensmen they have that can actualy skate in Rafalski and Martin. And to think this all could have been avoided if Lou didn’t drop the most useless $9 mil in sports on Mogilny, Malakhov(sp), and Mcgillis

By: Mr_Canuck

Mr_Canuck — Sat, 22 Jul 2006 00:08:33 +0000

That's a good question. I know it's not money, and not standing points cause that'll effect other teams too much

I have no sources, but i'd hope logically it's first round picks.

I'd think any team would cringe at losing, ie: a first rounder for every game they're over the cap.

Just a thought.. i'm 99% sure i'm wrong though

meh

go nucks go

By: mikster

mikster — Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:49:45 +0000

Well, Gionta has the right reasons, that you listed, for not asking a high raise. But, money is money and he is absolutely going to make at least between $2-2.5M. The guy scored 48 goals, 6th goal scorer in the league this past season.

He's getting a hefty raise for scoring 48 at least it has to be $2.5M.

Losing Madden would be a killer, but do the Devils retain offense or defense? Gomez would also be a huge blow offensively as much as Madden would be for defensive purposes.

Some big change had to happen to this team, and it will cost them. But, i trust Lou...i think he'll work his scouts hard to get the best he can. Although his scouts haven't been on such a hot streak lately.

By: mikster

mikster — Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:33:25 +0000

Considering Jagr was injured in that series, none that i can remember.

I know Madden is crucial, but he is too expensive at what he does and frankly he didn't do much at all throughout the season and in the playoffs.

And yes, who isn't overpaid is excellently put. But, in the case of the Devils, he is a financial problem as far as payroll goes.

Devils have to streets and must choose one. Keep offense or keep defense?

By: NjDEVSFN

NjDEVSFN — Fri, 21 Jul 2006 22:00:04 +0000

I agree with you that the Devils are screwed, but dont anticipate Brian Gionta getting such a hefty raise.

I would doubt that he and Lamoriello have even negotiated yet due to Gomez.

Gionta NOT going for arbitration means that he is likely to settle for a much smaller deal this season and get a nice big raise (devils clear $9.3M with the 3M's gone) next off-season.

It also shows that he truly wants to stay in NJ. He and his wife have a young child (not even a year, I believe).

The Devils 3 restricted FAs will be signed after the Gomez ruling is handed down and Lamoriello knows what to do.

Rafalski can be traded, but that would hurt the PP and he isn't too bad with the puck in the D-zone.

Trading Madden is just ridiculous. His true CAP hit is not $3.9 it is between $3.5 and $2.9 (trust me).

The Devils HAVE rotated 3 shifts on the PK (Madden/Pandolfo, Brylin/Elias, Gionta/Langenbrunner) so it wouldnt necessarily hurt the PK, but it would destroy the 3rd line and the Devils do NOT have a checking center.

Trading Madden is a good CAP move, but a terrible TEAM move.

By: Milohabs

Milohabs — Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:34:29 +0000

Does anyone know the penalty for going over the Cap?

If Lou can't come down below 44 Mill, what happens to him & the Devils ?