The Real Legendary NHL Team

At the 2004 All-Star game in St. Paul on Sunday, they named the NHL Legendary All-Star Team, which consisted of Wayne Gretzky centering Gordie Howe and Bobby Hull, a Bobby Orr – Ray Bourque defensive pairing, and Patrick Roy in the net. When you think of the all-time line, this is really a fine choice. However, last time I checked, a team is made up of twenty guys, not six.

And while I’m sure these six would make most of fans’ lists for an all-time team, the other fourteen spots bring up discussion. It’s how you build an all-time team of legends. Do you build it with a bunch of Norris Trophy winners on defense and Art Ross recipients putting the biscuit in the basket? Or, would you build it with the facts that star power doesn’t always guarantee winning (for more information on this, write to New York Rangers – 2 Pennsylvania Plaza, New York, N.Y. 10121).

As far as what we’ll see from the responses here, the players chosen show people’s personality, and the aspects they admire most. Some people might have Tiger Williams as their fourth line enforcer, while some might want to add Luc Robitaille for a whole different kind of fourth-line “punch”. Some might want Kevin Lowe and Rod Langway for an elite stay at home combo, while others might prefer a more nasty pairing of Scott Stevens and Derian Hatcher, or even the speedy Paul Coffey with… well, I think you get the point.

For myself, if I had to pick twenty players for my greatest team of all-time, these would be my line setups:

Coach: Scotty Bowman

Captains: Mark Messier (C), Larry Robinson (A), Bobby Clarke (A)

Forward Lines (W-C-W):

Bobby Hull – Wayne Gretzky – Mike Bossy

Gordie Howe – Mark Messier – Mike Gartner

Rocket Richard – Phil Esposito – Guy Lafleur

Dave Schultz – Bobby Clarke – Tiger Williams

Defense Pairings:

Bobby Orr – Ray Bourque

Larry Robinson – Doug Harvey

Scott Stevens – Tim Horton


Patrick Roy

Terry Sawchuk

Now, this is where it’s all up to some debate… so what’s your “perfect” legendary team?

129 Responses to The Real Legendary NHL Team

  1. IrishRinkrat says:

    Haha, I love it!

  2. Bishop7979 says:

    In honnorable mention i meant to put Bryan Trottier, I dont know why I put Bossy there as well

  3. GretzNYR99 says:

    What about Paul Baxter or Peter Worrell?

  4. GretzNYR99 says:

    What was the supporting cast without Gretzky? Ask the 89 and 90 Oilers, who were lead by Messier. Only HALF, that’s right, HALF of a team.

  5. GretzNYR99 says:

    Keep your fantasies of me to yourself, buddy. It’s pretty obvious that you’re a homo-erotic, know-nothing, two-bit hack, as in almost every reply to my posts, you insert some sexual innuendo spawned from one of your wild fantasies of me.

    Actually, if you looked at the posts I made in the Burke article, I said I wasn’t too optimistic about them making the playoffs. 🙂

    A logical fallacy turned into a futile and ill-fated attempt to discredit and belittle me. Get a life you worthless sack of shit.

  6. GretzNYR99 says:

    No, Gretzky didn’t whine, people stuck up for him. Dave Semenko and Marty McSorley voluntarily were his bodyguards. Lemieux shot his mouth off, tried acting like he wasn’t the bad guy, and whined when he got hit because no one stuck up for him. Wanna know why no one stuck up for him? They knew he shot his mouth off.

  7. comrie44 says:

    Markus Naslund-Peter Forsberg-Mike Bossy

    Bobby Hull-Mario Lemiuex-Pavel Bure

    Johnny Bucyk-Valeri Kharlamov-Brett Hull

    Markus Naslund-Guy Lafleur-Cam Neely







  8. MAniac29 says:

    what about a reply to my reply?

  9. flyersfan10897 says:

    But all those leafs players are better than Messier? Get over yourself already.

  10. GretzNYR99 says:

    Messier was still great without Gretzky, evidenced by 2 cups, a hart trophy, a 100 point season… etc..

    Coffey had 100 point seasons seasons with Lemieux and good seasons with Yzerman, but nothing beyond that.

    Kurri didn’t do anything without Gretzky, Anderson too.

    Simpson played with Messier.

    Tikks, Mac-T, Lowe, Fogolin, McSorley, Semenko, were role players, and weren’t exactly affected by Gretzky in an offensive sense.

  11. flyersfan10897 says:

    ………or anyone named esposito

  12. GretzNYR99 says:

    But when Bossy was down, he wasn’t that great, was he? That’s something to take a look at. And that’s why I think Denis Potvin was overrated. Without Bossy, that team doesn’t get the goals that got them their cups, and got them their great regular season records. Trottier played well without Bossy, but everyone else took a hit. Potvin was the beneficiary of having a good shot on a great power play. Bossy and Trottier ran that team offensively, and Potvin stepped in behind the play. Coffey did the same thing in Edmonton.

  13. GretzNYR99 says:

    What is it with you and fantasizing about me? Do you have a homosexuality complex?

  14. RichterFan says:

    Your out of your mind. Don’t let your distatse for the Rangers blind you here. If Richter even had slightly good defense he would be ranked even higher.

  15. Donovan says:

    Bernie had more

  16. GretzNYR99 says:

    An internet tough guy? What exactly are you doing, you simple-minded piece of shit?

    You ARE NOTHING, kid. You wouldn’t do ANYTHING to ANYONE offline. This is your forum for shit-talking because you can’t talk it anywhere else. You’re probably 5’8, 105 pounds soaking wet, and you get stuffed into your locker by the jocks at your high school. You have the basic comprehension level of a 10 year old (I’m giving you more credit there than you deserve…) and you use “disses” that I used back in junior high. For pete’s sake, you’re the louse the logs on 50 different screen names starting up shit with people, and I’m an internet “tough-guy” and a pussy? Who the hell are you to speak on anyone’s behalf, you’re the faggot who who tries to piss off the administrators on HTR. You’re useless.

    Copying and pasting my conversations? So now you’re stalking me? Someone’s quite obsessed with me. You’re a little leech, but you’re not as effective.

    You use regurgitated elementary school and junior high school jokes in an attempt to insult me, you’re NOTHING. You’re useless, I’m surprised you haven’t killed yourself yet. Society has shunned you in every text to the point that you have to pollute sites like these by coming on and just insulting people on 50 different screen names. You’re a disgrace to all hockey fans, you’re a disgrace to society, you’re a disgrace to people who can actually fight unlike your weak ass, and you’re a disgrace to life in general. In other words, you suck at life, go kill yourself.

    Everytime I see you on here, you come on a different name, trying to insult someone. You call them a mullet, (get new material and a life.) and other stupid shit that holds not even a semblance of coherency to it. You’re a giant mass of crap strung together. An accident that survived. The hell, I hate to be cliche, but you must have been dropped on your head to say the things you said about me when in reality, you’re doing the same. I don’t know why your ip hasn’t been banned yet, you contribute nothing hockey-wise, and every other reply from you is some sort of sexual innuendo involving the words “dick-sucking” “cum-guzzling” or some other sexually based action that you fantasize about the other users.

    You called me out for doing things that you were doing, when in reality, I never did them.

    I bash other people that bash me, you leave me alone, I’ll leave you alone. I may not like your opinions, but I’ll deal with them as long as you don’t bash mine. But DO NOT call me out and act all innocent and be a hypocrite.

    Until you get a grip on life itself, DO NOT call me out. You’re messing with something that your worthless ass couldn’t handle, never, not in a million years.

  17. GretzNYR99 says:

    The point of that was? I was merely asking if he was talking about Andre Racicot. Maybe if you checked out my post, you’d realize that I don’t think the Rangers team is the Legendary All-star team. Nice assumption, but that’s all it amounts to.

  18. GretzNYR99 says:

    Don’t bother, that’s all he’s here to do, is bash the Rangers and insult other people.

  19. GretzNYR99 says:

    I was actually considering Bucyk over Howe, but his numbers from the days playing without Espo weren’t that great. Kharlamov is a great pick, one of the best players to never play in the NHL. And on that note, what about Vladislav Tretiak? Arguably the best player to never play in the NHL. He was in net for the ’72 Summit Series against the Canadians.

  20. GretzNYR99 says:

    Francis was a close call on mine. I love Ronnie Franchise, I just had no room for him. Hell, I left out Pat LaFontaine, and he’s one of my top 3 favorites of all time.

  21. IrishRinkrat says:

    I almost did put Tretiak as my backup because of how great he was, but there’s many NHL goalies that are at that level… Plante and Hasek have MVP’s… Sawchuk, Esposito, Dryden, Brodeur, Glenn Hall… tough to only pick two.

  22. IrishRinkrat says:

    He’s amazing, there’s just a ton of amazing pivots from over the years.

  23. GretzNYR99 says:

    I agree with you for the most part, but remember, that team wasn’t nearly as good without Gretz as it was with Gretz.

  24. GretzNYR99 says:

    I agree, but thing is with Tretiak, he was the stabilizer to the core. He held it together. Those Russians weren’t “vaunted” without Tretiak. He was a brick wall in International competition, on a great team… yes, he played for a great team. Wanna know why it was great? He stopped almost everything that went towards the crease. Aside from 2 key moments in international hockey history (the obvious ones… ’72 Summit Series & ’80 Miracle On Ice), his brilliance is almost 2nd to none. Sure, they had a good defense, and had the dreaded line of Valeri Kharlamov, Boris Mikhailov, and Alexandr Yakushev, but they wouldn’t have been a perennial powerhouse without Tretiak. He bested the NHL’s best netminders for years in international play.

  25. GretzNYR99 says:

    I’m not saying he’s better than the names you mentioned, but he’s up there.

  26. GretzNYR99 says:

    What about an all Steve Smith team? The collection of the best guys who can bank one into their one net off their goaltenders.

  27. GretzNYR99 says:

    It was a reply to both.

  28. GretzNYR99 says:

    1. Look at my other post responding to that little quip.

    2. Learn how to read.

    3. Get a life.

    4. Find some friends.

    5. Seek help.

    6. Get laid. (I doubt that will ever happen, seeing as you have enough trouble making friends, yet alone girlfriends.)

    7. Find new material.

    8. Graduate junior high.

    9. Get over it, I own you.

    10. And last but not least…


  29. GretzNYR99 says:

    I agree, it is hard to say, but here’s my piece…

    Harvey was great, and was a core piece to Montreal’s great teams of the 50’s and 60’s. Shore was the MVP of a Bruins team that wasn’t a dynastic team, or a perrenial powerhouse. Shore is the only defenseman to win the Hart trophy 4 times, and he won those 4 Harts in the span of 6 seasons. Eddie Shore was Doug Harvey before Doug Harvey was around, and Doug Harvey was Bobby Orr before Bobby Orr was around. Also, Harvey won 8 Norris Trophies, yes. That is quite the feat. Red Kelly was the first to win the Norris in 54, I believe, and Shore retired from the NHL in 1940. Had the Norris been inducted as an NHL award for best defenseman during Shore’s tenure, he’d have just as many, maybe more Norris awards.

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