THN.com Blog: The best and worst trades of 2009-10

Edward Fraser

BEST TRADES OF 2009-10

July 3, 2009: The Kings acquire Ryan Smyth from the Avalanche for Kyle Quincey, Tom Preissing and a ’10 fifth round pick.
Heads were scratched when L.A. gave up 24-year-old Quincey, who had a breakout season in 2008-09, for a not-getting-any-younger Smyth. But the 34-year-old, 14-season vet has provided much-needed experience on a young Kings team and been a boon playing on Anze Kopitar’s right side on the top line.

Nov. 23, 2009: The Wild acquire Guillaume Latendresse from the Canadiens for Benoit Pouliot.
One of those rare deals that instantly turns out boffo for both clubs, two struggling players found new homes and rediscovered their scoring touch. Latendresse improved his PPG from .13 to .73; Pouliot from .29 to .75.

Feb. 9, 2010: The Thrashers acquire Ivan Vishnevskiy and a ’10 fourth round pick from the Stars for Kari Lehtonen.
Atlanta GM Don Waddell is consistent, and justly, carved for his trade record, but this one gets a positive grade. Despite the fact Lehtonen was a top five pick (2002 No. 2 overall), he’d fallen to third on the goalie depth chart after showing no ability to stay healthy during his five seasons. Getting a quality prospect in 22-year-old Vishnevskiy (51st overall in Future Watch ’10) deserves credit.

March 3, 2010: The Coyotes acquire Wojtek Wolski from the Avalanche for Peter Mueller and Kevin Porter.
One of those rare deals that instantly turns out boffo for both clubs, the 24-year-old Wolski has five points in seven games for the surging Yotes while Mueller has 11 in eight Colorado contests. Most deadline pundits – including this one – gave the first-blush nod to Phoenix, but the Avs get the slight edge so far.

March 3, 2010: The Coyotes acquire Lee Stempniak from the Leafs for Matt Jones, and ‘10 fourth and seventh round picks.
In only seven games in the desert, Stempniak already has seven goals, which will very likely be more than any of the assets Toronto got in return will achieve in their entire career.

WORST TRADES OF 2009-10

June 30, 2009: The Canadiens acquire Scott Gomez, Tom Pyatt and Michael Busto from the Rangers for Christopher Higgins, Ryan McDonagh, Pavel Valentenko and Doug Janik.
Although Gomez has certainly been better of late, cap space is as important as production in the new-CBA world and the 30-year-old will be eating up $7.3 million of the Habs room for the next four years.

Sept. 12, 2009: The Senators acquire Milan Michalek, Jonathan Cheechoo and a ’10 second round pick from the Sharks for Dany Heatley and a ‘10 fifth round pick.
The 25-year-old Michalek has been OK this season and projects to get better over the next couple of seasons, but the gamble on Cheechoo, who, along with his $3 million salary for this year and next is currently toiling in the American League, was a huge miscalculation. To make matters worse, Heatley continues to score like a fiend on the West Coast.

Sep 18, 2009: The Maple Leafs acquire Phil Kessel from the Bruins for first round picks in ’10 and ’11 and a second round pick in ’10.
Though Kessel has been excellent, his purchase will likely cost the Buds a crack at a blue-chip future superstar in Taylor Hall or Tyler Seguin. And with little available to improve Toronto’s woeful forward corps this summer, Boston may get another lottery pick in 2011.

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81 Responses to THN.com Blog: The best and worst trades of 2009-10

  1. ChyldProdigy says:

    I'm not sure Kessel should be in the worst trade section.  To me a terrible trade is one that has little to no benefit to the other team and a disproportionate amount of gain to the other (see: Andrew Raycroft for Tukka Rask for an example).
    I can appreciate your case for Gomez in that he is a good player but his contract will hurt the team or with Heatley vs Michalek in that the loss far exceeded the gain, but Kessel came EXACTLY as advertised.  We want a guy to score goals and we got him.
    I'm not saying its an amazing trade or that it worked out the way the Leafs had hoped, but I hardly think it can be considered among the top 3 worst trades.

  2. bbruins37 says:

    It would be crazy if Phoenix finished 1st in the West and Detroit finished 8th. I think it would be the first time you'd see the majority of people picking the 8th seed as the favourite over the 1st.

  3. bbruins37 says:

    I was also way too hard on Stempniak when he was in T.O. Simply put, the guy is a beast. Chalk it up as another failure for Toronto.

  4. dumbassdoorman says:

    Well then you better add STL to that list too, as they traded him for the same reason.

  5. leafy says:

    Yea 9 goals in 9 games with Phoenix.  Not too shabby.

    Or it could be "John Druce syndrome".  Remember him?  He was the guy who exploded for 14 goals in the 1990 playoffs, and then had an uneventful career. I think Stempniak is another John Druce.

  6. bbruins37 says:

    Yeah I know he's not amazing, but I just find it funny that he's the hottest scorer in hte leagueright after getting out of Toronto.

  7. ChyldProdigy says:

    Bbruins not only did you just skip my post and a chance to bash the Kessel trade, but you are now complimenting Stempniak??  WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TO!?!?!

  8. DannyLeafs says:

    I agree completely. There are so many factors that have people making a much bigger deal of this trade than it is.

    First, people are overrating Taylor Hall. He is a good player, and will likely be a very good NHL'er, but Stamkos, Crosby or Ovechkin he is not. If you want a bar to measure his success by, I believe his high end potential is about the same as Pat Kane. Don't believe me? well look at last year's draft. Evander Kane is only 3 months older than Hall, and started in junior basically the same time as Hall. His development is about the Same as Hall's and the only reason he was drafted earlier was because of the draft cut off, not because he was older and more mature. Personally, I think Kane is a better all around player than Hall, he plays with a more physical edge and has a better release. There is no reason to believe that Hall is projected to be so much better than Evander Kane. That doesn't mean that I don't think Hall could be better than Kessel, I think it is pretty likely he will, but it wouldn't make the deal a raping by any stretch, and there is always still the possibility that he doesn't.

    Second, everybody is missing the point of this deal. This is a deal that involved undetermined value. The Leafs got what they wanted in the deal, and the Bruins traded a player with an affirmed value for picks that had a range of possible values. So the winner of this deal is irrelevant to whether or not it was a good deal for the Leafs. I know people will scoff at this, but it is a pure and simple fact. The deal obviously had the potential to give the Bruins the best of it in the long run, otherwise it would never have been made, but the expected value of the deal was in favor of the Leafs.

    Here is how it works. Expected value is the current value given to an asset that has an undetermined value based on the probability of different possible values the asset could obtain. Basically, it works with the assumption that if you were to take a particular course of action an infinite number of times that variance would eventually be eliminated, for example if you flip a coin a million times it will be very nearly a 50% between results of heads and tails.
    It is similar to playing a game of poker and getting priced in on a draw.

    When looking at this years draft, and next years draft, there is no player that figures to be a franchise player of the calibre of Stamkos or Crosby. There are some with the potential to be better than Kessel, but not many, and not by so much that it would be the end of the world if we lost out on one of them. Considering that as bad as the leafs have been over the past few years the worst they have finished is 23rd in the league, it was unrealistic to just assume that we would finish in the bottom two this season. Realistically, if you were to handicap the leafs potential to finish in the bottom 3 in the league this season, at the beginning of the season, it was probably running at a probability of about .15. The fact is that when all is said and done the Bruins had about a 5% chance of drafting two players that are significantly better than Kessel, about a 25% of drafting either a better player, or a player that was close along with another good player, and about 30% chance of drafting two players that are not quite as good, but still very good. The Leafs wouldn't lose any sleep if they lost out on two players who were good, but not as good as Kessel, so really, there was only about a 30% chance the Leafs would come away unhappy with the alternative. Boston might be happy with two players that are good, but not as good as Kessel, but again, Toronto wouldn't have really lost the deal in that scenario.

    And here is a final thought. If the season were to end today, Boston would have 18.8% chance of drafting first, a 42% chance of drafting 2nd. This isn't as much a sure thing of drafting Hall or Seguin as many people think. If the leafs can catch any of the teams ahead of them, they drop to a 10.7% chance of drafting 1st and a 0% chance of drafting second.

  9. cam7777 says:

    Yea, I actually really came to like Stempniak in his time with the Leafs.  He had to go, but I hate the fact that Pierre McGuire absolutely destroyed any trade value Stemps might have had.  The points might not have been astronomical, but Stempniak had certainly had a far more beneficial season than Raffi Torres (2 assists since the deadline), who went for a much larger return in comparison.  Stempniak was easily worth a 2nd, and I'm convinced that the only reason he went for a 4th is because McGuire spent half the day on Trade Center telling everyone that STempniak was basically a piece of trash.

    Anyone that watched him play this year though, could tell you that he was having a solid year, grinding it out, and geting scoring chances he couldn't convert for whatever reason.  Still, any smart hockey person should have been able to see that Stempniak is clearly a complimentary scorer, and works best when buried in depth.  Alongside Kariya, playing on a 4-line team, Stempniak was money.  Put with a clever passer like Wolski on a team that plays 4 lines, he's money again.  Asked to be a checker who can score on a team with no structure – yea, it was totally his fault he couldn't score.

    Burke better swing one out of the park with that 4th round pick this year.  Here's hoping he lands another Jerry D'Amigo who goes on to beat out a bunch of first rounders for Rookie of the Year in his respective league.

  10. bbruins37 says:

    lol the kessel trade has been beaten to death on here, and everywhere else for that matter. i'm sure the bashing will start up again come draft time.

  11. bbruins37 says:

    One question: what do you know about the 2011 draft?

  12. leafmeister says:

    Way to early to comment on the Kessel trade. Hall and Seguin look great, but they are not in the NHL yet, so the trade cannot be properly evaluated.

    Also I dont want to jinx this, but the Leafs are slowly crawling their way out of the bottom 5. They are 4 points behind the next team, and once they get into that group, they could get up into the 7-12 range hopefully.

  13. reinjosh says:

    Completely agree with you on the Kessel trade. While its looking like it could turn out really bad it hasn't really happened. A lot can happen.

    And no chance we could get that high. Right now, realistically we can just hope to get out of the bottom 2 and end up giving the Bruins the 3rd overall (of course assuming that we don't win the lottery).

  14. leafmeister says:

    Well if their play keeps up than they get into a group of teams with between 68 and 72 points. Depending on how they finish amongst them, they could get up at least out of the bottom 5.

  15. zackman13 says:

    a big reason why i hope the leafs get out of the bottom 5?

    bbruins wont be bragging.

  16. reinjosh says:

    Realistically we can catch Florida, Tampa, Carolina or NYI with a slim outside chance at catching Columbus or the Rangers.

    If they play like they have in the last 10 games, then say we go 7 – 2 – 1 getting 15 points. That puts us with 79 points. Say The other teams go exactly the way they have in the last ten. Tampa gets 5 points and goes 73. NYI gets to 78. Carolina gets to 79. Florida gets to 80. Rangers get 79 points. Columbus gets 81 points. That means we would only pass two teams. Its going to be very hard to get out of the bottom 2 spots. Don't expect much.

  17. bbruins37 says:

    7 of their last 10 are against teams in a dog-fight for a playoff spot. Two are against two division leaders in PIT and BUF, one of whom will be fighting desparately to keep their division lead. Their easiest game should be against Florida tomorrow. Let's see how they do.

  18. leafmeister says:

    I dont expect it, but I am just saying that it is possible. Out of the bottom 3 would be nice.

  19. Kramer says:

    No such thing as a good or bad trade. This implies trade mistakes are accidental.

    The mafia controls all trades. Every move is made to hike profits from under ground bookies joints and speak easies.

    Ever since the time of the Black Sox scandal when shoeless Joe Jackson was unfairly suspended and then they built the field of dreams for his ghost, the mob has had a piece of the action.

  20. cam7777 says:

    Does anyone think there's any chance that San Jose is purposely not giving their best effort right now?  Think about, if they win their division, or the conference, there's a very good chance they will play the Detroit Red Wings in the first round.  If they drop down to 4th, and let Phoenix have their moment, their road to the Cup will be much easier, starting with the Predators.

    It's a bit of a conspiracy theory, but thinking about it now, perhaps the team would be wise to rest Thornton, Marleau, Nabokov and Heatley right now, give some extra ice to Malhotra, McGinn, Couture, Mitchell, and Setougchi.  I mean, what do they have to lose?  A playoff date with the Red Wings?  Pass.

  21. cam7777 says:

    Yea, really, we just need to catch one team.  The Islanders are exhausted, so I think they are our best chance.  Wouldn't be surprized to see Tampa just tank it now too, and end up drafting 2nd or 3rd overall.  My prediction on the final outcome, after draft lottery:

    1 – EDM – Taylor Hall
    2 – NYI – Tyler Seguin
    3 – TBL – Cam Fowler
    4 – BOS – Brandon Gormley
    5 – FLA – Erik Gudbranson
    6 – CLB – Nino Niederreiter
    7 – CAR – Brett Connolly

    My guess is though, that Columbus is going to try very, very hard to trade up to Cam Fowler or Brandon Gormley.  They really need an elite defensemen in their ranks.

  22. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Anyone see Mojo lately?

  23. leafmeister says:

    I doubt it, but the 1st place team, if they face Detroit is in for a tough series. Especially if it is Phoenix, given their lack of playoff experience.  Calgary would also be tough if they finish 8th. I would be tempted to bet on Deroit winning a round or two if they make the playoffs.

  24. Kramer says:

    The lottery is another scam. Every lotto jackpot is won by old people in their 70s, 80s, or 90s.

    There's no such thing as luck. Everything is organized. There's a big global conspiracy going on.

  25. cam7777 says:

    I personally don't think there's any way that Detroit lets Calgary back into the picture now.  If the Flames are getting in, they are going to have to hope for an Avalanche collapse down the stretch.  My guess though, is that Calgary misses altogether, and we start to hear rumblings about the end of the Sutter era in Calgary. 

  26. dumbassdoorman says:

    I think that if the Isles could get Seguin they would be in some seriously good shape moving forward. it would be the best case scenerio for them.

  27. cam7777 says:

    yea, it would be insane for them.  they could trade a lot of their prospects that haven't quite panned out (ie. Bailey) for some proven talent, and really go for it next year with Tavares, Seguin, Moulson, and Okposo in their top six.  Add a top tier free agent like Kovalchuk or Marleau, and you're set.

  28. dumbassdoorman says:

    depending on how other teams play, 6-8 is a real possibility for the leafs or I guess bruins. so here is hoping they play well not just because of the draft but more so for the confidence it is hopefully instilling in our young players

  29. albertateams says:

    I actually think that Detroit finishes 5th or 6th if you look at the games they have left it is by far the easiest schedule of any teams on the bubble. Calgary is going to have to catch Colorado or LA.

    The Flames are going to have to go 7-3 in the last ten to make it in maybe even 8-2. What they really need is the cross over like the CFL. The East is by far a weaker conference.
  30. dizon says:

    to be honest, as long as the bruins dont get a chance to draft hall or seguin, its a win for the leafs
    the bruins picking fowler is completely fine with me. Ill take a scoring sniper over him anyday

  31. cam7777 says:

    Yea, I agree.  I want the managers to look closer at the suggestion of a mini-tournament (single-game elimination) between the bottom teams in each conference, where the winner takes the 8th and final seed.  So right now, it would look like this:

    Detroit vs. Edmonton
    Calgary vs. Columbus
    St.Louis vs. Dallas
    Anaheim vs. Minnesota

    Boston vs. Toronto
    Atlanta vs. Tampa Bay
    NY Rangers vs. NY Islanders
    Florida vs. Carolina

    This does so many good things for the league, if you ask me.  For starters, it doesn't effect the best teams, who are going to be in the top 7, so that's a good thing.  It gives everyone a chance at the playoffs, and still encourages strong play right to the end.  It makes the trade deadline interesting again, as anyone can load up at that point, if they're really desperate, and try to buy their way through the elimination round.  For teams like Toronto and Calgary, who are vastly different teams than they were in October, you give these teams a chance to prove themselves.  With this year's group inparticular, look at the great rivalries that could come from this little set up.  Imagine if Kessel scored the goal that eliminated the Bruins.  Imagine Tavares leading the Isles over the Rangers.  Imagine Carolina proving they're season was marred by injuries and storming their way all the way back to the playoffs. 

    You could cut the season down to 80 games, and add these, much more meaningful games.  I realize it probably seems biased coming from a Leafs fan, but I would like this even if the Leafs were consistent President's Trophy contenders.  It's just an exciting idea to me.

  32. bbruins37 says:

    retarded. no offense…

  33. reinjosh says:

    i agree
    its just a dumb idea in my opinion

  34. leafy says:

    Since the Leafs are out of the playoffs, I like it. But when the Leafs are a good team and in the playoffs, I wouldn't like it.

  35. mojo19 says:

    I said all along that Stempniak was playing great hockey this year, the biggest knock on him was that he couldn't finish. For all the offensive chances he created, not many of them resulted in goals. But law of percentages, it had to go in for him eventually. I'm glad he's been scoring in Phoenix, he's a good player.

  36. mojo19 says:

    ahaha. i usually disapear after the deadline. When the playoffs start up again i'll be back, cheering for the Detroit Red Wings.

    Hows school going buddy? u missed a killer dance show at D.Howse on Saturday

  37. Dunski23 says:

    I was looking at that too, but FLA, CAR, NYI, TBL either have as hard of a schedule or are facing each other so really looking at what lies ahead doesn't solve much. In a perfect world (for Boston) Toronto will go 1-9 the rest of the season. BUF and PITT on paper should be losses and the games against the teams hovering around the 8th seed should be losses too due to those teams needing the points especially against a team at the bottom. This, however, isn't a perfect world and anything can happen and I'm happy I've got the NHL package because there are a lot of hockey games I need to follow in the last 10 or so games of the season. Should be exciting and happy to go along for the ride.

  38. bbruins37 says:

    Some dream match-ups for the playoffs that could happen:

    Phoenix vs. Detroit – especialy if it's 1 vs. 8 because it would be funny to see every single non-biased fan and hockey "expert" pick the 8 seed.

    New Jersey vs. Atlanta – Bergfors going back to the swamp? Count me in.

    San Jose vs. Detroit – If the Sharks weren't shitting their pants before…

    Chicago vs. Los Angeles – Two of the better young cores in the league.

    Phoenix vs. Nashville – Gary Bettman's wet dream.

    Pittsburgh vs. Boston – Cooke.

    Pittsburgh vs. Philadelphia – Always a classic.

    Vancouver vs. Colorado – Always a ton of bad blood.

    Detroit vs. Colorado – Bertuzzi.

    Boston vs. Montreal – It'll happen.

    Washington vs. Pittsburgh – ….

  39. leafy says:

    Detroit is still a dangerous team.

    Chicago could go all the way, but goaltending still a huge ???

    L.A. has been great all year, but over the last while, they've been horrible.

    Phoenix is not as good as their record.

    The Avs and Bruins will be out quickly (sorry Bbruins).

    Nashville has been playing under the radar and could be a sleeper.

    Buffalo is dangerous the way Miller's playing.

    Throw the regular season points out the window. Pittsburgh and Washington are dead even. Anybody's series.  A lot will depend on whether Malkin can return to form.

  40. cam7777 says:

    none taken.  it's not my idea.  i kind of like it though.  what does it really matter who the 8th seed is?  it will never effect any of the Cup favorites, and it gives teams like San Jose a week to rest their roster, or overcome nagging injuries like they get in most other major sports.  this whole event takes 4 extra days (6 at the most), and what i like about it, is that it eliminates the "tank nation" mentality that takes over some cities.  tank nation, and now the fall for hall, that's not what the regular season is supposed to be about.

    i dunno, but i think it solves two major problems with the nhl – the declining deadline importance and lack of trades, and the bogus draft system.  it's worth talking about.

  41. Dunski23 says:

    If Boston somehow ends up with the 1 or 2 overall do you guys think the allure of Seguin or Hall would be enough to pry a young, proven, physical, scoring forward away from a team. Yes, of course, I'm talking about Bobby Ryan. I think in the long run both Hall and Seguin will have better NHL career's, but I feel Ryan would fit in Boston really well right away. Highly doubtful Boston will get the 1st or 2nd, let along flip it for Ryan in some sort of package, but I'd like it if it did happen. It would be nice to see the top three lines something like: (If Recchi sticks around for another year)
    Wheeler    Savard       Ryan
    Recchi       Bergeron    Sturm
    Lucic         Krejci          Ryder (If still around, May be moved to fit Ryan)

    Until Lucic proves he deserves to play on the top the line I'd put Wheeler up there, and haveLucic play with Krejci and Ryder (or whoever takes his spot if he somehow gets moved) I'd feel good about the team is the forward group looked like that. Ryder or Wides would have to be moved for it to happen, which could prove extremely difficult, but hey here's to hoping, right.

  42. cam7777 says:

    yea no, i'm really happy for him.  he wasn't a maple leaf, and i don't think the pressure of this market ever would have suited him.  i'm just annoyed that other teams's obviously recognized stempniak was a worthy acquisition, and identified him as a good player, but refused to pay for him because of the insane amount of negative media attention he recieved.  like honestly, had anyone given up the package that buffalo gave up for torres, to land stempniak, their fans would have ripped that management team in half after hearing mcguire drone on and on all day about how much stempniak sucks balls. 

    in the end, burke had to suc*****b to the pressure and trade stemps for far less than he was worth, and then actually take back salary to make it all work.  burke sucks at deadline day.  two years in a row we've given away by far the best, and most impactful player at the deadline, and received the shittiest package imaginable.

  43. DannyLeafs says:

    If you are trying to point out the fact that I don't have any statistical evidence to back up that claim with, then you are quite right. I am no scout, and I have barely seen any of those players play. However, I have heard many hockey analysts say that the 2011 draft is shaping up to be the weakest in close to a decade. I am sure that there will be a few good players in that draft class regardless, but, from what I have heard, it is not likely to produce a true franchise player.

    Also, I am not trying to say that Boston won't "win" the deal if they get to draft Taylor Hall, but this is not a deal that you evaluate after you see what Boston gets to draft. The thing I am getting at is that the deal wasn't a bad deal for the Leafs. Sure, there was always the possibility that Boston got to draft a better player than they gave up and still have two more picks to add value, but for the deal to get done in the first place, this had to be a possibility. I know people keep pointing to teams that drafted well and saying look, see thats what holding onto your picks gets you. But there are plenty of teams that stunk, kept their firsts, and still have nothing to show for it. The Coyotes have 9 first round picks since 2004, and 5 of them in the top 10. So far this year Kessel has contributed more points then those 9 picks have to Phoenix. Columbus has Filatov, Brassard and Voracek to show for its last 6 first round picks, and while these do have value, only one of them really has a chance of being a better player than Kessel, and so far he hasn't panned out as expected.

    The point I am trying to make is that if a team were to select just one player of Kessel's calibre every second draft, that team would be considered to be doing fairly well at the draft table, so I think the price paid by Burke to land Kessel was fair, and whether or not Boston ends up winning the deal, it doesn't change the fact that the deal was a reasonable one at the time it was made. I would also like to point out that if we could now trade our next two firsts for Bobby Ryan, and the two after that for Jeff Carter, I would do it in a heartbeat.

    Finally, this is just an idea that I would like to have your opinion on. I think that if Boston wanted to maximize the value from this deal, they should actually look at dealing next year's first. If Boston does get to draft in the top two, how many teams do you think would be salivating over the pick, and how many GM's would overpay because they overvalue a chance at landing a number one pick? Do you think a team Like Anaheim, who are having a disappointing season, and a hard time signing Bobby Ryan, would be willing to part with him. Boston has the threat of an offer sheet at their disposal, and may be willing to part with Ryan for the Chance at the Leaf's first along with maybe a second, as opposed to Boston's first? Or maybe even both theirs and the Leafs first. If Chiarelli pulled that off I would tip my hat. If he landed either Hall or Seguin this year, and managed to use the other pick to get Ryan, then I would say that Boston won that deal huge. Anyway, thought that would be something interesting to consider.

  44. bbruins37 says:

    Never draft in the first round. Got it.

    It depends what's on the table but I'd be very unwilling to part with that pick.

    Check out Adam Larsson, Sean Couturier and Ryan Nugent-Hopkins for next year's draft.

  45. leafit2me says:

    OK this articles started off with some promise and then went completely down hill. Edward Fraser, my friend, if you had any credibility before posting this article you've lost it now. And i'm not just saying this as a Leaf fan but as a hockey fan. Are you kidding? The Stempniak trade is in the best trades of the year section and Phil Kessel makes it to the worst trades of the year!! And there is no mention of the Kovalchuk or Phaneuf trade? Be serious man pls!!

    Now if your articles was something like "Ho-hum trades that no one saw pan out" then maybe….just maybe I'd give you some slack but not this. 
    48 hrs before the trade deadline Stempniak (no offense to the guy) had no trade value according to most hockey experts covering the NHL Trade Deadline. Even Primeau was considered a more tradeable asset than Stempniak. Granted that his contract had alot to do with that but still it was his contract against his numbers that made him a 'waste of cap space'. The guy played 123 games as a Leaf and scored 25 goals/65 points over that time. If you were a GM in the NHL what would you give for something with those numbers. Then he goes to Phoenix and scores 9 goals in 9 games…heck thats as good as Wolski….are you saying that these two players are of the same calibre? Stempniak is nothing more than a depth player….a 3rd liner or (a #6-#9 forward) who just got hot at the right time thats all. I guess he just woke-up and realized that it was contract year.
    Dont even get me started on the Phil Kessel trade. There is no way in hell you can judge the trade before we know what players Boston got in return. Ask yourself what you would give for a 23yr old 2 time 30+ goal scorer…because Kessel will score 30 this year again…..INSPITE OF MISSING 12 GAMES THIS SEASON, INSPITE OF SPENDING THE SUMMER REHABBING FROM SHOULDER SURGERY AND MISSING THE PRE-SEASON. The absolute minimum that a player like Kessel would be worth in a trade, with ANY, NHL team would have been the acquiring teams 1st pick in the upcoming draft. So the real question is was the 2nd rounder in 2010 and 1st rounder in 2011 justified?  I know this guy is a defensive liability but lets face it…he wasn't brought in for his defensive game. If you believe Leaf and Boston fans are biased in their opinions then maybe you should just let the stats be the tie breaker. Injuries aside, Boston is having a disastrous year and the NHL's worst G/G at 2.35 and they're forward corps is the same as last year when the NHL's 2nd best G/G – 3.29. What's the difference….ONE PLAYER. Ask any Bruins fans what it would have meant to them to have a Kessel type offensive player in their line-up this year when Lucic and Savard went down….heck ask the Boston Bruins themselves.
    Dollars aside, I'll bet they would trade at least 1 of those picks back to toronto if it meant they could loan Kessel for the last 10 games and the playoffs with the way things have gone for them this year.
    Whats more is that in the last 15 games Kessel might have just helped reassure the Leafs that their efforts to get Bozak in the off-season was justified. And both Kessel and Bozak together have helped Kuleman find his offensive game. He is sure to net himself a decent raise this off-season and deservedly so. Ask any 'real' hockey person and they will tell you that this is well worth the price of a couple of draft picks. At its very worst this trade helped both teams because, going by this years standings and stats,  Boston got JUST VALUE for Kessel – nothing more nothing less
    What about the Dion Phaneuf deal? While the personal stats may not be there, there is no denying the fact that the Leafs, statistically (GA and PK) and otherwise, are much more improved over the last 16 games.
    Sorry about the rant but it really pi**es me off when I see articles like these where its obvious that the writer has not put a lot of thought into what he/she was saying.
  46. bbruins37 says:

    I think Hall and Seguin have too much potential to move for that. Just pop one onto Savvy's wing for the first 7 years and watch him go (even if Seguin is a center). Looch will be good by the start of next year, so he'll be fine on the top line. I wish I coud be so sure about Savvy, but I think he'll come back ok. I know his concussion wasn't as bad as Bergeron's, but with his age…I dont know. We can only hope for the best. He'd play such a huge role if we were to get Hall or Seguin.

    Do you think Recchi will be back? I thought I remember him saying that he thought this would be his last year, but the guy can still play. I know he loves playing with Bergeron, so he may be enticed to come back. I'd definitely welcome him back.

  47. bbruins37 says:

    I think the Rask/Raycroft trade may very well go down as the best trade in NHL history. I mean this guy could be the next Brodeur…

    Just to clarify I'm talking about Rask, not Raycroft.

  48. bbruins37 says:

    The B's have made some pretty awesome trades. Espo, Middleton, Neely, Rask, Kessel…It's just that Thornton trade that stunk.

  49. bbruins37 says:

    I'm not worried about the B's. They are one of the best defensive teams in league, the best PK team, and one of the best faceoff teams. Those are al big plusses in the playoffs. And with Seidenberg on the team, the team has seen a bit of an offensive spark, although Matt Cooke just couldn't have that. Losing Savard is a massive hit, but they still have Bergeron and Krejci up the middle.

    Agreed on the Avs and Yotes though.

    If Miller stumbles, the Sabres are toast.

    The Hawks look kind of like the Wings of the past: goaltending doesn't matter. They're just too talented.

    I'm not really feeling L.A. There's aways that "first time" thing that never works out well.

    The Preds are good but they've been awful in the playoffs in the past. Drawing the Sharks again would just be unfair.

    And yeah Malkin has been pretty awful this year. I mean he's stil putting up some points (although not near what he should be), but his defensive game is reay lacking and he might be the worst faceoff center in the league.

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