Toronto Maple Leaf Rumors – Feb 25, 11

Should Clarke MacArthur stay or go?

Leafs locker: Trade winds blowing
Should Clarke MacArthur stay or go?

MacArthur has some value in the market place as Monday’s trade deadline approaches. Teams have called about him. The Leafs can get something for him if they believe he’s going to walk as a free agent in July. Or they can sign him now and trust that this one year sample is for real. In a way, this is a smaller scale Jose Bautista decision. If you believe in MacArthur, you get the deal done by Monday. If you’re not sure, figure he’s a one-year wonder, or can’t sign him, you trade him. And if you’re MacArthur, you walk the tightrope attempting to balance the present, the future, with what you know and what you don’t know, all the while hoping you don’t trip along the way. Value for MacArthur comes in somewhere in the neighbourhood of three years and $8 million. Word is, MacArthur is asking for more and the Leafs are offering less than that. But even if they’re $1 million apart in total package, it makes sense for all parties to come to some kind of compromise position. MacArthur has been an important player in Toronto — but never an important player anywhere else.

Leafs locker: Trade winds blowing

As the Bell Centre was invigorated by a Montreal Canadiens’ trade Thursday afternoon, the Maple Leafs are still considering one more move prior to Monday’s NHL deadline.

Having lost front-line defencemen Tomas Kaberle and Francois Beauchemin in earlier deals, there have been reports of up to five teams that Toronto general manager Brian Burke is speaking with, including Colorado for 40-point rearguard John-Michael Liles, long rumoured to be on Toronto’s radar.

For now, Burke is not close to completing anything, but Toronto has three games remaining including Thursday before the swap shop closes at 3 p.m. on Monday. Coach Ron Wilson says he’s grateful the Leafs aren’t in action that day, but adds the club has been dealing with the annual deadline distraction as best it can.

“I don’t think it’s bothering us,” Wilson said. “If it was, why are we 7-2-2 (after Feb. 1) since all this stuff has been written?”

89 Responses to Toronto Maple Leaf Rumors – Feb 25, 11

  1. Leafs_the_word says:

    Not liking the rumor mill today, I'll figuratively puke if Burke gives up anything for Weiss.  This is a guy that is expendable in Florida's rebuild, why should we want his 50 points?  

  2. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Why what are you hearing? And what do you think their asking for?

  3. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Bare with me, but I would not mind doing something like this (Just kind of thought of this):

    -To Florida: Mikhail Grabovski, 1st rounder Philly, prospect Luca Caputi (Really think he's tradeable material with D'Amigo, Mueller, etc)

    To Toronto: Stephen Weiss

    -To Florida: Bostons conditional pick

    To Toronto: Dennis Wideman

    -Pray to sign Brad Richards…And then do something like this
    -Maybe sign a guy like Jamie Langenbrunner?




    Top Prospects (Still have top notch prospects):


    Supporting Prospects (Excellent supporting cast):

    -Brad Ross
    -Greg McKegg
    -Simon Gysbers
    -Juraj Mikus

    This should be a playoff team…Would be very surprised if they did not make it especially in the weak East

    ****Our second line would be less of a cap-hit then Scott Gomez I believe 🙂

    Also, maybe you can make change Grabo with MacArthur and move Grabo to wing?????

    Just an idea!!!

  4. Leafs_the_word says:

    It's going to be a 1st rounder at least which would be a complete waste IMO, I don't think Weiss would be a long term fixture in our top six anyway. 

  5. Leafs_the_word says:

    Grabo is twice the player Weiss is, I don't get where all this love for Weiss is coming from.

  6. Leafs_the_word says:

    Rangers just picked up McCabe for Tim Kennedy and a 3rd, he'll look good on the PP with Redden in the minors.

  7. mapleleafsfan says:

    Yea I wouldn't do that… Grabo's easily as good as Weiss plus we know they have chemistry on that 2nd line.. Wideman would be pretty nice to have but I'd rather just get Liles for a 2nd (assuming that is what the price is..).

  8. mapleleafsfan says:

    I believe the you're ducking the arguments on the comments below..  as well as the past god knows how many arguments you've been in.. And in case you didn't know.. You are considered a troll because you just come on here to flame the leafs.. never post anything worthwhile.. 

  9. toronto77 says:

    Apparently the price is high, I think their asking for Kadri, so ***** that trade.


    Is that how you win an argument?….

  11. leafmeister says:

    What is the advantage of choosing to shoot first in the shootout?…I cannot for the life of me figure it out. Good to see Lupul break out a bit. Hopefully that line says hot.

  12. Leafs_the_word says:

    When you score first you put the pressure on.

  13. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Didn't anyone else want to throw a rock at the television tonight???

    In the last 6 games the leafs have picked up 10 points…4-0-2, basically a point in the last 10

    But those two SO losses came to a 1-0 loss to Ottawa??? Players to blame for failing to score a freaking goal!!!

    Tonight they lose to cannot score Pittsburgh 6-5??? Reimer to blame because at some points I was pretty sure Toskala was taking over the duties.

    Wake up Leafs, each game counts!!

  14. Leafs_the_word says:

    You've already proven yourself an irredeemable douche so you don't get to be taken seriously, ever.

    Put simply you suck at HTR. 

  15. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Key word…


  16. leafmeister says:

    Tonights game was a tough one. If anyone's play stood out as particularly negative for me it was Aulie, he has been great since being brought up, but he really looked like a 21 year old out there tonight. They have gotta win tomorrow.

  17. leafy says:

    I didn't like the way the Leafs played tonight.

    And Reimer has to stop over-playing a low butterfly for shots coming from beyond 20 feet. He's going to get burned on high shots more and more as word gets around.

    But let's give credit to Reimer, he came up with the big saves when the game was on the line, just like Grant Fuhr.

  18. Leafs_the_word says:

    Shooting second just compounds pressure…

     did you really expect the Leafs to undefeated until they secure a playoff spot?

  19. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Nah…But I did expect to see improvements in the SO, which we might have the worst record in since created.

    Think of all the points Phoenix stole in SO's

  20. NonLeafFansAreGay says:


  21. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    Come on guys…every team plays a stinker every once and a while. The positive is that we got a point even though Reimer didn't play well. We are 5 back with a game in hand. Win tonight, and we are only 3 pts back. There is no way we are going to win every game. The top two lines are contributing, goaltending has been solid, Komi and Lebda are playing better, Aulie has stepped in nicely…all positives.

    We are not winning the cup this year, but we have a good group of young guys, some good prospects, good young goalies in the system and draft picks. Is this not what we want?

    If we can get Liles for a second rounder, I would take it since we have two firsts from previos trades. Forget Weiss…he's too small. I would like to see Bozak, Kessel, Lupul finish the season together and see if they continue to develop together. If so, create a third line that can score through trades or free agency…something like Penner, Kadri, Armstrong.

    Think of this:

    Lupul Bozak(he will continue to improve) Kessel
    Kulimen Grabovski MacArthur
    Armstrong Kadri Penner
    Brown Brent Orr

    Phaneuf Aulie
    Schenn Liles
    Gunnarsson Komisarek


    Maybe try for Bieksa(or type of d-man) in the off-season to shore up defence. Get Giggy to re-sign for about $2mil, MacArthur for $2.5-$3 mil. We would have 3 solid lines that can score, toughness, good goaltending, a young team and cap room. That is a playoff team in the making with cap room to re-sign players as contracts come up. We are a couple pieces away, without having to mortgage the future. Plus, we have players on the Marlies(Hanson, Caputi,Boyce etc) that are capable of playing when injuries happen.

  22. MystifoLeafs says:

    For god sakes no need to tear into him for making a mistake. He has been outstanding thus far and is still learning from mistakes. Plus everyone is entitled to a bad game now and then. And also really if Toskala was in net it would of been over before the 3rd period was done. And if we some how did bring it to OT that bombardment would of sealed the deal.

  23. leafy says:

    Well yeah. Looking at the big picture, I like the direction we're headed.

    Re Reimer, even though he didn't have a good game, it was very encouraging to see him shake off some strange goals and come up with several extremely big saves in the final 10 minutes and OT. I like that. Very good sign.

  24. Leafs_the_word says:

    Feels like we're improved this year but that's because we've been so terrible for years, everyone from Belfour to Gigueure have been sieves in the SO, Reimer at least can make a save or two. 

    One of the reasons I like Bozak is that he's good in the SO and another reason I wanted Kovalchuk last summer, he's deadly 4 on 4 and adequate in the SO.

    You're right though, we leave way too many points on the table.

  25. Leafs_the_word says:

    Phaneuf is a beast, you'll be on this site craving MacAuthur next season if he signs, the second a player in Toronto carries with him a significant cap hit fans turn on them.

  26. Leafs_the_word says:

    "It's been reported by Sportsnet that Nashville may have offered Ryan Ellis and J.P. Dumont for Clarke MacArthur."
    I know Dumont isn't having a great year but he looks to be more consistent than MacAuthur. 

    Burke hits one out of the park if there is truth to this.

  27. Leafs_the_word says:

    I guess the sticking point is Dupont's 4 million cap hit for another season after this one, so he'd be another Lupul like player but really who cares there is nothing on the UFA market this off season.  Better we limit the cap space we can make mistakes with this off season (I know we have too much already).

  28. TheLeafNation91 says:

    This seasons over…No Reimer=No chance

    I don't like Ellis…He will be a bust

  29. Leafs_the_word says:

    Screens his own tender on consecutive nights.
    Takes bad penalties.
    Can't skate.
    Never in position.
    Never throws big hits.

    Can we demote Komisarek already? At least Finger was engaged in the play.

  30. Leafs_the_word says:

    Most prospects bust but I think if we keep stuffing the system we give ourselves odds to find a gem.

  31. leafmeister says:

    Of course Giggy blew it. If Reimer is out for any significant time then the season is officially over. It is astounding how bad the other goalies are compared to him.

  32. leafmeister says:

    I know. 4.5 for 9 minutes of awful hockey. Burke has to move, or bury him. We cannot possibly justify that cap hit for such an awful player.

  33. TheLeafNation91 says:

    He was playing well until Giggy came back in net…

    I;m not sure you noticed but once the switch happened the whole team collapsed.

    They don't believe in him…Have no trust in him. And they should, he never has proved otherwise.

    I always defended Giggy, I don't anymore. This comes back to him

  34. Leafs_the_word says:

    'I don't believe in my goaltender so I'll play horrible'?  If he's so mentally fragile that he can't handle a goaltender change then he's in the wrong league. 

    I doubt Giguere has much faith in Komisarek as well.  Get rid of both of them.

  35. TheLeafNation91 says:

    Wasn't just him…It was the whole team. It was Schenn, Phaneuf, etc.

    They play extra careful…Which is why they make so many mistakes when he's in there because they feel if theres a shot against him. Their going in

  36. mapleleafsfan says:

    I think Ellis will be good..I see him being like a kaberle.. good point production, great PP QB but a bit softer in his own end.. If there is any truth to this though I would like to know what we could add / if it would be possible to get johnathan blum instead.

  37. Kramer says:

    I can see several trades going down in the next 48 hours. I'm hearing all sorts of things.

  38. BruinsBoy15 says:


    Joffrey Lupul – Brad Richards – Phil Kessel
    Nikolai Kulemin – Mikhail Grabovski – Clarke MacArthur
    Fabian Brunnstrom – Tyler Bozak – Colby Armstrong
    Colton Orr – Tim Brent – Mike Brown
    Dion Phaneuf – Keith Aulie
    Luke Schenn – Carl Gunnarson
    Mike Komiserak – Brett Lebda
    Tomas Vokoun – James Reimer
    The leafs sign Brad Richards and Tomas Vokoun basically 🙂 Re-sign Everyone who is on there. 😀

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