Tradeable Buds

I have always said that even if the leafs were losing or being their regular inconsisent selves, i always could look forward to watching some of their young players play and, over the past 2.25 seasons, i have:

Wellwood, Steen, Poni and Antropov, White, Coliacovo, Stralman, Stajan, Tlusty.
One day we’ll be able to add Pogge, Kulemin and maybe Earl and Williams to that list.

but there is another thing to hope for admist all this supposed despair: watching some players who are regularly maligned by others and are deemed to be ‘untradeable’ actually INCREASE their trade value through solid play. this is ESPECIALLY important during a season/off-season (2008) in which it looks like some significant changes will be coming to the leafs.
Sundin is probably at the top of the list and would be a deadline day deal (barring injuries and him not waiving his NTC) that would bring in quite a bit – especially considering his production and the fact that he is the perfect playoff rental (not too mention an awesome guy to have in a dressing room for a playoff run).
but there are others as well:
– Nik Antropov: i love this guy playing for the leafs and i’ve defended him quite a bit here. but now would be the perfect time to trade Antropov. barring injuries, he would bring in an OK return for a guy many believe isn’t worth ‘a bag of pucks’ (what a dumb expression anyways).
– Pavel Kubina: i’ve ripped this guy a part the past season or so but i’ll be the first to admit that he has improved his play somewhat – still nowhere near where it needs to be, but somewhat. 3.5 years left on his contract – one that no longer looks as bad as it once did considering the recent UFA defenceman contract signings. However, the leafs would likely have to take on some salary in return.
– Hal Gill: another guy i’ve been critical of, but this year he is playing some pretty good hockey. still frustrating to watch people beat him in terms of speed, but in other areas of the game he’s done pretty well (i.e. PK, shot blocking). trading his $2.1 million with another year left on his contract won’t be that difficult.
– Alexei Ponikorovsky: He’s still pretty young, he’s big, can skate, has a hard shot (not always accurate though), and he is good at recovering pucks in the offensive end and using his size. Plus, he’s pretty affordable and has proven he can effectively play on the top 2 lines. a solid depth acquisition for any contender and his youth means that some teams that are thinking longer-term trade option wouldnt mind him.
– Chad Kilger: yes, Kilger is a tradeable commodity. you won’t see much in return (look at what Anaheim got for Sutherby, now look at Kilger – who has averaged 15/16 goals per season with the leafs). a solid fourth liner who can contribute offensively and hits hard and often.
– Tomas Kaberle: absolutely NO WAY i would trade Kaberle … … … unless it was for a significant first-tier prospect in return AND a couple of first round picks. i won’t even go any further than that… Kaberle just shouldnt be traded, unfortunately, he is the most likely one to go because of his value. hopefully he’ll use his NTC to stay in toronto and form the core the next incarnation of the leafs.
– Andrew Raycroft: right now the goalie market is jammed pack with medicore-goalie options. that being said, if Raycroft goes on a hot streak for a few games around the trade deadline (and he did go on a few of these last seasons), some GMs may ignore his inconsistencies especially considering that he would provide a solid and not-as-expensive-as-you-think back-up option for a playoff-run. the problem with this scenario is: some GMs DO think his contract is too rich even though there is only one year left on it, and most goalie tandems are pretty much set in stone for those true contenders in the NHL. the only conceivable trade for Raycroft is one that is part of a larger deal that would see the other team dumping an unwanted contract on the leafs as well.
of course, this all has to occur when JFJ is OUT of the front office.
Excluding Kaberle, the line-up without these players should look like this heading into next season.
of the above group, Pohl and Belak are UFAs this offseason, and Devereaux, Battaglia are UFAs next offseason. Stajan, Steen, and Wellwood are all RFAs this offseason. a lot of the holes you see above should not necessarily be filled by expensive UFA signings – but mostly by what toronto receives in return for these players (including prospects – both theirs [Kulemin, Pogge] and other teams’).
so, what do you think should be some of the projected returns for these players?

59 Responses to Tradeable Buds

  1. muckies says:

    get off it, the Sens struggles last year clearly fell on Gerber early in the season, and they did turn it aorund when Emery got healthy and completly took the team over and led them to the finals, there is not s single ounce of deabte over that.

    The Sens prospects are betteer then the Leafs without a doubt. We have 2 and maybe even up to 5 guys that could be playing in the  NHl right now on a team like Chicago, Washington or NYR that do not have the 4 line deoth we do.
    Lee, Foligno, Hennesy, Nikulin and Zubov could probably all play right now. Maybe not Zubov because he is about as fit as Wellwood (whcih means to say terrible shape) but in a pinch they could defintly use him

  2. 92-93 says:

    no debate huh?

    i think i'll let the results speak for themselves. face it, you and a whole lot of other Sens fans wanted a simplistic scapegoat and blamed it all on Gerber.

    i simply disagreed with that and said that you should give Gerber some time.

    enough said about that because its too obvious.

    and the rest of your comments are to be expected by a homer like yourself. take a few steps back … quite a few.

  3. 92-93 says:

    hey thanks.

    for every 3 or 4 not-too-bright-ones on this site, there is usually a person who either 'gets it' or at least knows a little bit about the game.

    i've actually been holding off on jumping on the rebuild/hang JFJ bandwagon because it was too simple of a viewpoint and overly-vilified JFJ who is not the whole problem.

    but the time has come for a change. hopefully ownership has learned something (we'll see).

    In terms of an acquisition of a franchise player, i would say the leafs should do everything to get Richards out of Tampa Bay. his contract his huge – larger than St.Louis and Lecavlier … and the Bolts badly need organizational depth like Toronto does (especially on D and in net).

    Marleau would be the choice out West. Again, Sundin going the other way makes sense in both instances. but others must be added (names like Kubina, even young names like Stajan, White, Coliacovo, not to mention Raycroft and some draft picks).

    also, salary has to be coming the other way – unwanted salary like Marc Denis, Lukowich, etc. the trade obviously has to look good for both teams in terms of cap space and prospects. and the its the Leafs that are really looking for that long-term franchise player.

    i am all for that, BUT – they have to be certain that they can trade the other vets to replenish picks and prospects as well.

  4. 92-93 says:

    these are the core players i envision for the leafs, players who are not completely untradeable … but should be kept if possible.




    (yes, i think Toskala is a good netminder compared to Raycroft. he simply has more natural skill and potential than Raycroft could ever have. we'll see that in the long term i believe).

  5. 92-93 says:

    I like that line-up fine. its a good line-up going forward.

    an Eastern trade version of what you are talking about is this:

    To Tampa Bay: Kubina, Stajan, Raycroft, White
    To Toronto: Richards, Denis, Luckowich

    you have 12.1 million going to Toronto, 9.2 going to Tampa Bay (add the necessary draft picks where you see fit). Tampa adds to their D depth (Boyle may be a free agent in the offseason) and disperse their cap space away from just Richards. they know what they are getting in Kubina, they slightly upgrade their back-up position, who makes 800K less than Denis. Stajan is a young centreman who has some significant upside (not top-line upside, but the Bolts don't need that – they have Lecavlier).

    Leafs get an all-around franchise player who can play on the PP, PK, is a clutch player, does it all. They take on the final year of Denis contract and Lukowich's contract.




    there is 2 years left on Lukowich's contract unfortunately, but its not a huge contract and it adds some sandpaper – at least for a little bit. the key here is Richards for Toronto.

    trade the rest for picks and prospects and see what you can get for them. in the 2008 and 2009 drafts (even if you give a pick to Tampa Bay for Richards), can STILL be put towards restocking the system with high-end prospects and overall depth.

    they'll see the NHL ice a lot sooner than people realize (just look at the top 13 picks in the 2006 draft). 

  6. leafsarebad says:

    i think your a faggot

  7. leafsarebad says:

    does anyone agree that the leafs are the best team omg omg they are so good…..umm if i ever hear anyone say that i think i might have to shit on them. I think its almost time for them to buy mats coffin cuz hes an old geizer who shoulda retired about 10 years ago before teh faggot turned gay and got ridden by his teamates. mccabe in particular. I also spink dat mccabe likes to give sundin a couple of dirty sanchezes a week

  8. JREM16 says:

    mr. leafsarebad is an idiot, how can u say sundin is an old geizer and should have retired 10 years ago when he already has 30 points this season… looks like thats 30 points more than what you have in your nhl career.  Do you even know what a dirty sanchez is? Probs not… ok bye now go blow urself 😉

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