TSN.ca – The Philadelphia Flyers to buyout Ilya Bryzgalov

The Philadelphia Flyers are parting ways with goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov after just two seasons. The club used the second of their two compliance buyout options on Tuesday to buy out the Russian netminder.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426278

 


95 Responses to TSN.ca – The Philadelphia Flyers to buyout Ilya Bryzgalov

  1. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    They are saying it is both Briere and Bryz that will be bought out.

  2. nordiques100 says:

    between those two and Pronger, their cap committment is roughly 54$ mil.

    they’d have 2 forward spots, a spot on D and a goalie to get with what they have left over.

  3. LN91 says:

    I like what Philly is doing thus far. It’s so much easier to make decisions when you can have a 1-2 punch of Giroux and Schenn or Couturier.

    I expect them to be back in the postseason next season.

    I think they are clearing up cap for a Luongo buyout…Until that happens, Briere is on the team.

  4. Well, Bernier or Reimer could fetch you both Schenns now.

    Philly is in a bit of a pickel here. Perhaps they try signing a 1 year deal and going with Montoya – big mistake, Theodore, Nabokov, Khabibulin, or Thomas – is he in play? Not sure because he didn’t play last season.

    Luongo works if Vancouver buys him out. They could sign him to a new contract.

    This could also be really great news for an up-and-coming goalie who would’ve never had the chance to shine on an NHL team – we all know goalies come from nowhere.

    • realistic_leafs_fan says:

      Not sure about a goalie getting both Schenns.lol

      They do have Mason and he played very well for them after the trade. He is young and a change of scenery has seemed to help. They may be looking at Luongo(post buy-out) or Smith.
      They would still likely like to shed some D contracts as they have some major signings due next season…The two buy-outs have bought them a little time.

  5. Gambo says:

    Looking at the core of the Blackhawks, I can see similarities to what the Leafs could be in a couple years.

    Chicago’s core: Toews, Kane, Hossa, Sharp, Keith, Seabrook, Crawford.

    Kessel = Kane
    Lupul = Sharp
    JVR = Hossa
    Phaneuf = Seabrook
    Rielly or Gardiner could = Keith
    Reimer/Bernier = Crawford

    We also have Kadri in our core, but he’s not close to being equal to Toews. That’s the one significant piece that Toronto is missing, our Toews, the biggest part. Maybe Kadri can keep developing and the gap wont be as huge, but I’m not counting on ever comparing him to the likes of Toews. Not saying all of those players are exact equals, but they are or they will be pretty close.

    In a couple years, Toronto could be fighting for a cup.

    • Gambo says:

      Not necessarily part of our Core, but I’d like to add that Gunarrsson is similar to Hjalmersson who played a big part on the Blackhawks team. I see a lot of similarities betwen both teams. Toronto also really needs that Brad Marchand/Andrew Shaw.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      And wait until we get Bolland 🙂

      Really though, good post, being ‘burnt’ by Chiarelli I’m of the opinion that Leafs Nation has a massive inferiority complex forever comparing the Leafs to the Bruins. Every proposal is about becoming more Bruins like down the middle and playing perfect defense/utility roles.

      Though a Chicago model is more apt. Chicago doesn’t have a Phaneuf, just saying, we have strengths they don’t or at least a trade chip.

    • mapleleafsfan says:

      Good post, I think most of our players are a slightly less version of theirs though. Kane > Kessel (and younger), Hossa >> JVR (although JVR is young), Seabrook > Phaneuf all round.

      Reimer > Crawford though. Crawford stinks IMO, seriously overrated by this playoffs. He had a solid playoffs, but who wouldn’t with that team. Crawford anywhere else would get shelled.

      • realistic_leafs_fan says:

        Agreed MLF. It is a good post, but our guys are lesser versions of the others except Reimer. Lupul/Sharp is probably the closest wash. Seabrook is hugely underrated on this site and I’m glad to see someone else sees how solid this guy is…very few mistakes or giveaways from Seabrook. The Toews factor is huge. We are getting there, but there is a way to go for sure.

    • DannyLeafs says:

      I like the analogy a lot, and I think we could continue building in that vein. I also think Kessel is right there with Kane in many ways. The biggest reason people still will say Kane is superior is because he has been part of a winning team, but to me that just shows that a purely skilled player like that can be a very important part of a contending team. Kessel and Kane are comparable in terms of talent and production over the past couple of seasons. Kessel is a better skater and shooter, Kane is a better passer and stickhandler. Both excel in all offensive aspects of the game, are smaller, not overly physical, and both get some flack for defensive play, even if it isn’t fully warranted. Kane has the advantage of playing with Toews who is essentially the embodiment of a player that makes up for every single one of his deficiencies.

  6. Gambo says:

    I would really like to see Toronto move way up in the draft(no shit). Apparently Carolina is willing to move their pick for a top 4 defenseman, maybe Franson and I am a huge fan of him.

    I remember earlier during the lockout I think it might have been Mojo that I was having a discussion with on here about who would be drafted higher out of Barkov or Monahan, I liked Monahan more at the time and he liked Barkov. He was obviously right in saying Barkov. That kid is insane and ready to jump into the NHL right now. I’d love to see Toronto try to move up far enough to get him. He’s amazing offensively and real solid defensively.

    If all Carolina wants is a top 4 defenseman for their pick, trade Franson/Gunnarsson for it. Doesn’t seem fair, but they are top 4 dmen. Then try to move the 5th overall and a 2nd or something to get the 4th from the Preds.

    Also, another player who is NHL ready that I like is Nichushkin. Kessel, Lupul, JVR and Nichushkin would be amazing top 6 wingers. He could be available at 7 if the Leafs trade with the Oilers.

    • mojo19 says:

      Wasn’t me, maybe Joshy.

      Barkov would definitely be sweet. He’ll probably go really high, top 5 for sure.

      But I would love to grab Monahan. Big 6’2″ could grow to be 6’3 or 6’4″ as he’s still only 18. Great set of hands, and plays a rugged two-way game. This kid has a real shot at being a #1 centre in the next few years. And Canadian.

      I’m thinking Monahan might go in the 6-8 range, so it could be feasible to grab him if we could move up for Carolina or Edmonton’s pick.

    • mapleleafsfan says:

      I know they want a top 4 defencemen, but that doesn’t mean just anyone. It would take a lot more than Franson unfortunately. I’d imagine Gardiner + our pick (maybe more) or something around Phaneuf. Pretty steep price, but if there was any way to secure Barkov I’d really consider it.

    • 93killer93 says:

      It might have been me. Mackinnon is the only player in the draft that I’ve liked more than Barkov. He’s big, skilled and put up close to a point a game playing against men in Finland. I think he definitely goes top 4. It’s really not a surprise that Colorado has him as a potential 1st overall pick.

      • Gambo says:

        Yeah maybe it was you, Killer. I have no doubt that he will be able to step into the NHL right away.

        • 93killer93 says:

          He’s listed at 6’3 about 210 lbs and he doesn’t even turn 18 until September. I think it’s much more realistic to trade up and get Barkov than to move up to 1 and grab Mackinnon. Especially since Nashville, Carolina and Edmonton are all rumored to be willing to move their pick. Sunday should be interesting.

  7. leafs_wallace93 says:

    As the draft approaches, I’m liking the Gagner for Phaneuf and a swap of 1st round picks idea.

    Nonis going into the draft with a RFA center’s rights (I could care less if we immediately flipped Gagner) and two 1st round picks offers some serious trade options.

    Failing a big splash I wouldn’t mind the Leafs moving up to get Bo Horvat. Not impossible to move up a couple spots. It’s a deep draft Horvat could turn out to be a stud.

    • mojo19 says:

      I’m hearing a lot of good things about Horvat. Kirby Rychel is getting some buzz for a mid-late 1st rounder as well.

      Where do you all think Max Domi is going? I’m hearing everything from 10th to 20th, and everywhere in between.

      • nordiques100 says:

        Bob MacKenzie has him rated 10th.

        I think a lot will do with how well he interviews.

        Remember, this is a kid, with a family, who yanked around Doug Gilmour and the Kingston Frontenacs to get his way into London.

        If they feel he has some bad attitude problems (which didn’t seem to show on the ice, but who knows without being in that dressing room) well he may slip a few spots, but he’ll definitely prob be top 15 at worst.

        The teams are probably very hopeful Hunter straightened him out, but they’ll know when they talk to him.

      • Gambo says:

        I really like Max Domi. He could be one of those guys that are passed on by many teams because of his size. I think he goes 12th to Phoenix.

  8. mojo19 says:

    No “Iginla re-ups in Pittsburgh” yet…. Until I hear otherwise I will continue to dream of our top 2 lines being:

    JVR – ???? – Kessel
    Lupul – Kadri – Iginla

    That’s nice. ???? could be Weiss, Stastny, or Gagner.

    • nordiques100 says:

      I just dont think Mo that Nonis will sign someone that old.

      Weiss may be the “oldest” player he signs.

      Another centre who i think would be a good fit is Adam Hendrique of the Devils.

      He is currently a RFA. I don’t know what it would take, probably defence help, but, he is a very good player who is proven in his ability to play with other skilled players.

      Otherwise, i wouldnt mind seeing the Leafs somehow sneak into the top 10 and try and go after Sean Monahan.

      This is just a couple of options in terms of “young” centres.

      I don’t think Couturier or any of the Flyers are a real option. If the Flyers just think this coming year, they are not in huge trouble.

      They have 11 forwards, 6 D and a goalie under contract and would be at around 54 million with the buyouts of Briere and Bryzgalov, and the LTIR of Pronger.

      They shouldn’t be in a position next year to be forced to move a Schenn or a Couturier.

      its the summer of 2014 that will be of issue for them and they can wait that long if they want to make any further cap moves. It doesn’t have to be now.

      They can get by with dumping a Meszaros and his 4 mil for example now.

      They could still trade Couturier, but it will be of something with value now that its confirmed who their 2 buyouts will be.

      • realistic_leafs_fan says:

        This could very well be the biggest summer in Leaf recent history. Nonis could bury this franchise going forward with a few bad moves or non moves. He better be right on whatever he does or we will be going backwards.

        • nordiques100 says:

          well BB built the foundation and put that in place.

          Nonis got them over the next hump. Did he make any moves? Not really, but to me the culture change by him and Carlyle they put in place demoting vets, benching high paid vets, changing the leadership group, changing the hierarchy was big.

          Now its time for him to help Carlyle in terms of giving him better pieces to work with. He has to tread softly (i.e not overpaying to acquire Gagner, overspending for Bozak) but also got to be aggressive in his pursuit of the team’s needs. Its a fine line and may be too much to ask of him.

          • realistic_leafs_fan says:

            I give Carlysle most of the credit for the top portion, as GM’s tend to let their coaches play who they like.

            Agree with the second half obviously as that was my point.

            • nordiques100 says:

              not really. BB wouldnt be sending Connolly or Komisarek down. Would have made Carlyle be forced to use those options.

              Carlyle made the call to not want them, Nonis had the balls to demote them. Not every GM would do that.

              • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                I know we have had this conversation before Nords and I see no evidence that Burke wouldn’t have done it if Carlysle said he wasn’t going to play them. I still think Wilson made those line-up calls.

                • Gambo says:

                  Yeah Carlyle was by far the biggest difference maker.

                  Who knows what Burke would have done, but he’s a strong believer in letting the coach play who he wants. He sent down Orr, he could’ve sent down Komisarek/Connelly.

                  • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                    I made the same point about Orr in the past, who was a BB guy. BB built tough and then changed direction with Wilson there. That tells me Wilson made the playing roster decisions as Orr was sent down, a guy BB wanted in the line-up.

                    • mojo19 says:

                      Wilson was there before Burke. I think Burke had the vision, brought in Orr, started to do his thing, but then Wilson said “I can’t use these guys” and Burke just kind of let Wilson have a certain amount of say, and the results…well anyways.

                      To Nords point, I can’t say for sure what Burke would have done, but I do know what Nonis did, so I can’t complain.

                      We’ll see how Nonis does this summer. This is the big offseason and he’s at the helm, so all judgement will be made throughout this season.

                    • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                      I realize Wilson was there first, what I meant was, Burke tried to build something tougher and as time went on, changed directions with Wilson behind the bench. You are right, no one knows what Burke and Carlysle would have done together.

  9. I hear Rask is looking for 39 million over 6 years.

    • mapleleafsfan says:

      Steep price but I think he’s worth it. Looks like Ference/Horton are definitely on the way out in that case. Horton’s gonna get overpaid big time.

  10. mapleleafsfan says:

    The leafs should really just focus on drafting centers. BPA isn’t as important after the top picks because it’s too hard to tell who will be / is the BP. May as well keep trying for that elusive center. A couple of the top C’s in the league were taken in the later first round as well as some solid 1B centers too. Giroux, Richards, Getzlaf, Kesler etc. Krejci, Bergeron Datsyuk etc all taken in later rounds. May as well throw sh.t at a wall and see what sticks.

  11. Gambo says:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/nhl_trips_up_buyouts_90sX16wV28TR1GtnCDS8ZO

    Too bad Bettman hates big market Canadian teams, or else the Leafs really could have taken advantage of Tampa’s financial problem.

  12. 93killer93 says:

    If we can’t trade up and grab Barkov, I’d like the leafs to try and grab mid to late 1st rounders and grab 2 or 3 of Domi, Rychel, Gauthier, and Horvat.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      Interesting, if they could say turn Phaneuf into a 5-15 pick along with an asset that can help them package with their 21st to move up. Domi & Horvat could give them a bright future with a pair of Knights, local bys.

      Hell even package Colborne with 21st overall to move up for Domi or Horvat and using Phaneuf to straight land a Monahan, Lindholm or Barkov.

    • Gambo says:

      I agree, this draft is too deep to not explore that option.

      I’d like to add Mantha to your list, he’s 6’4 and scored 50 goals last season. Pulock is another guy I like, even though he’s a defenseman. Pulock is a right handed shot who can already shoot over 100mph.

  13. leafs_wallace93 says:

    SJ should be another trade partner for a potential Phaneuf deal, Pavelski & Thornton are pending UFAs next off season like Phaneuf, I’d be happy with either and SJ does like to make this kinds of off season shake ups in an attempt to remain relevant.

    • mojo19 says:

      Good point, Setogucchi for Burns, Heatley for Havlatt in the same offseason a couple years ago.

      I would love some kind of Phaneuf for Thornton trade. Holy shit, that would be nuts. Thornton!

      Won’t happen, but I’ll be dreaming of that until camp starts or Dion is dealt elsewhere.

  14. Gambo says:

    If Letang can’t sign an extension with Pittsburgh, apparently he said his preferred destination would be Toronto. If that’s the case, we have to go for him. The asking price is said to be a roster player, a draft pick and a top prospect.

    To Leafs: Letang
    To Pens: Kulemin, 1st(’14), Percy and a 2nd(conditional, if he resigns).

    Percy isn’t a top prospect, but he’s a former first and Toronto is sending Kulemin which is a player Pittsburgh really wants, thus increasing his value.

    Then trade Phaneuf to Colorado for O’Rielly and a 2nd or something. Definitely wouldn’t do this trade if we didn’t have Letang. But in this scenario we do, so fuck it.

    Trade some junk to Florida for Scottie Upshall. Upshall is an agitator, something Toronto needs. He can hit hard and work the corners well, he’s overpaid at 3.5m so it should be easy to acquire him. Upshall and Lupul are best friends. Since Phaneuf is gone, Lupul will more than likely be the captain so this is something that’s possible.

    Resign Kadri, Franson, Gunnarsson, Bernier, Fraser, O’Byrne, Mcleren, Colborne. Sign Clarkson and Gordon. Buy out Komisarek and Grabovski.

    Lupul(C)-Kadri-Kessel
    JVR(A)-O’Rielly-Clarkson
    Upshall-Colborne-Biggs(I think he’s ready)
    McClement(A)-Gordon-Orr/Mcleren

    Gunnarsson-Letang
    Gardiner-Franson
    Rielly/Liles/Fraser/-O’Byrne/Holzer/Blacker?? Who knows.

    Reimer/Bernier

    • Gambo says:

      I’m not even sure I like that team, I just throw it together haha. Don’t h8, appreciate.

    • mojo19 says:

      I dig it. But I think O’Reilly is stuck as an Av until next February because his offer sheet was matched or whatever.

      But ya, something like that. I would love to go for Letang.

      • mojo19 says:

        Expensive pair, but wouldn’t Phaneuf-Letang be an ideal top pairing?

        Letang will only be at $3.5 million for this season, but next year we’ll probably be looking at doubling that, not to mention Phaneuf will be in the same range, maybe a mil less…So if this did become a pair, better hope the cap goes way up after this season.

        Anyway’s I hope contract talks hit a big snag, Jordan Staal style, and we grab Letang.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      Letang is Dion 2.0, he’s awful in his on zone, he’s a points monkey utterly one dimensional and will command a 7+ million dollar contract. If he likes Toronto so much get him as a UFA instead of gutting the farm system and giving one of our few good role players in Kulemin.

      Why force Rielly and Gardiner to play behind Letang?

      • mapleleafsfan says:

        I think Letang’s defensive play is getting blown way out of proportion after this series. He’s a great skater with quick feet who gets caught on the offensive too much. With some coaching theres no reason he can’t be fine defensively – at least average.

        He’s more skilled than Phaneuf. At at PPG, even if you’re not great defensively, if used right he’s still really effective.
        And hey, someone picking the Leafs as their first choice? How nice is that to hear. Especially an elite player.

        • realistic_leafs_fan says:

          well said MLF.
          With a Letang, his partner needs to be defensively responsible, doesn’t need to be a star, just solid, which won’t break the bank. And yes, Letang had a horrible final series and now everyone thinks his defensive game completely sucks. Letang has an edge to him and Gardiner, Letang, Reilly, Franson would be a great young 4. Add a couple of more defensive minded vets and the blueline looks pretty solid.

          • nordiques100 says:

            a Letang/Dion pairing would be nice b/c Dion can play the left side and between the two of them they can get the job done for the most part.

            Sometimes players elevate their play playing with other good players. Letang is a good player who’d probably help Dion be better.

  15. mapleleafsfan says:

    Wow, Lecavalier bought out. I’d take him no question. Get on it Nonis.

    • realistic_leafs_fan says:

      Wow. I admit I was wrong. I really didn’t think contracts like Lecavaliers would get bought out due to the millions it would cost. We should be on this. How much would you guys give Vinnie over how many years?

      • mapleleafsfan says:

        Hard to say what he would cost. 4 years 6 mill? Is that too much / too little? Wonder what the market for him would be. Gotta think Mtl will be in on it too.

        • realistic_leafs_fan says:

          I’m not sure if the Habs have the cap room. 🙂
          He’s 33…5 years $27.5 mil? He is guaranteed 1st line in T.O.

          I wonder if pitt would do

          Phaneuf and Bernier for Letang, Fleury and Sutter.

          • mapleleafsfan says:

            Good point. Could move Plekanec or Markov to make some space? Hometown boy, would be an absolute legend in Montreal.

            Also doubt it for that deal. Fleury isn’t bad enough to be a pure cap dump (I think), and if they are moving Letang it’s for cap reasons (which Phaneuf doesn’t help). Call Bernier and Sutter a wash, it’s still bad for the pens.

            I’m excited, I want Vinny.

            • realistic_leafs_fan says:

              I don’t think they are moving Plalnec or Markov…the team isn’t talented enough to move those guys to make cap space.
              On the trade…we are making cap space for them and Fleury has been bad the past few playoffs, not just this last one. Bernier would be cheaper and I think has more value than Fleury right now. Sutter is the key really.
              cap
              pitt takes about $10mil Phaneuf/Bernier
              T.O takes $12.25
              Pitt, no matter what they say publically, is worried about their goaltending.

              • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                Also, no cap worried for Pitt on Letang for this year, it’s next. Letang and Phaneuf would be a wash cap wise, or Phaneuf maybe more cap friendly, plus pitt wants more jam on the backend…Phaneuf brings that.

              • mapleleafsfan says:

                I agree they’re probably not fired up about the goalie situation, but Vokoun wasn’t awful really. If he comes cheap again I think they stick with it.

                Say the difference between Fleury and Bernier in value makes the difference in Letang and Phaneuf a wash, I don’t think a couple mill in cap space is worth dumping a young-cheap center for.

                • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                  Vokoun is signed for this year and Fleury for two more. I honestly think pitt would view Bernier as a good up-grade in goal as Toronto is thinking he could be an upgrade over Reimer(although I doubt it). Sutter is a young, cheap centre, but Pitt ain’t winning without goaltending in the playoffs.

                  • Fleury has a limited NTC, doesn’t he? – I’m asking because I’m not really sure. Assuming it’s true, he can only be traded to a list of teams he provides. If that’s true, he’s not going to a team to be a backup goalie, unless Toronto is going with him as their starter.

                    • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                      Yes he does and I thought about that. Would he rather play for a team and in a town that doesn’t want him or move somewhere where he may regain the number one spot? If he plays well, he would be adored in T.O, if he doesn’t, crucified. He is Canadian and playing in Canada I thought would appeal to him. But, Yes, he would have to OK the trade.

    • I saw the rumor. Is that official?

  16. LN91 says:

    Teams I think that will be on Vinny:

    – Toronto
    – Montreal
    – Winnipeg
    – Edmonton
    – Nashville
    – Dallas
    – Buffalo
    – Detroit
    – Columbus

    • mapleleafsfan says:

      Agree for the most part. Detroit no IMO, decent amount of money tied up in dats/zetter, no real need there – they need better wingers / D. Plus vinny would be 2nd – 3rd string. Doubt he wants that.

      Winnipeg, Nashville, Colombus for sure will be, but definitely not the most attractive locations. Probably the same with Buffalo. We’re the closest to competitors of the rest group, save maybe Montreal. Vinny probably wants a shot to win.

      If Montreal finds the cap space, they’re the favourites. I’d say we’d probably be second (might be homer).

      I really think Nonis should push hard here.

      JVR- Vinny – Kessel is a real nice top line.

      • LN91 says:

        Then again, Letang is from Montreal…And he wants to go to Toronto.

      • That would allow they to roll with Zetterberg and Datsyuk on the same line – that line did have magic before, while letting Filppula walk.

        I don’t think he ends up in Detroit through.

        I think Edmonton would be last on the list as far as Canadian teams listed above. It’ll be his choice where he wants to go. I can’t see him passing on Montreal and Toronto to go with Edmonton.

        • mapleleafsfan says:

          True, I forgot Filppula could be walking.

        • realistic_leafs_fan says:

          Agreed. You would have to think T.O would be very enticing to Vinnie. Montreal for personal reasons, but they have Plakanec and Galchenyuk. he would be THEE centre in T.O.

          Then if Toronto could move Grabo to Dallas for a 2nd round pick.
          Say Kulimen and a 3rd to Minnie for Brodziak and Clutterbuck.
          Buy-out Komi and Liles

          JVR Lecavalier Kessel
          Lupul Kadri ???(Horton, Clarkson, Dupuis)
          Brodziak Colborne Clutterbuck
          McLaren McClement Orr

          Phaneuf, Franson, Gardiner, Fraser to build with or make trades to improve on.

          Reimer, Bernier

          It would be a good start.

          • realistic_leafs_fan says:

            Also, although it’s not their M.O, don’t count out the Islanders. They are not even close to the cap floor and Tavares/Vinnie would be quite the combo.

          • mapleleafsfan says:

            This is the route I would go (In my dreams)

            Edm
            Phaneuf, 1st 2014
            Tor
            Eberle/Yak/Hall (whichever MacT is looking to move)

            Pitts
            Kuley, 2013 1st, Percy, D’amigo
            Tor
            Letang
            (assuming they can’t resign him. They want 2 roster players and a first – close enough)

            Grabo for a 2nd/3rd wherever – then use that pick plus our 2nd/3rd this year for clutterbuck

            Sign Vinny
            Sign Scuderi
            Sign Gordon/Cullen

            Lupul – Vinny – Kessel
            JVR – Kadri – Eberle
            Clutterbuck – Gordon/Cullen – Colborne
            Orr – McClement – Mclaren

            Letang – Scuderi
            Gardiner – Franson
            Gunnar – Fraser

            Reimer/Bernier

            Screw the cap.

            • realistic_leafs_fan says:

              Cap? what cap?

              I wonder if T.O could make a deal with L.A for Scuderi’s rights. A 4th for the rights, but if he signs, it becomes Gunnarsson instead. it would help both teams cap wise.

              • mapleleafsfan says:

                I think I’d rather just take a stab at him in FA than lose gunnar. Who would bottom pair if we lost him?

                • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                  The idea being that Gunnar is RFA, by sending him to LA, it makes Scuderi’s contract less of an impact cap wise and allows Toronto other options to explore and T.O the opportunity to get Scuderi without getting in a bidding war with other teams.

                  • realistic_leafs_fan says:

                    I meant less impact cap wise because now they don’t have to re-sign gunnar as well. The top 4 is harder to fill-out then bottom 5-6-7 d-men.
                    You know have
                    Phaneuf Scuderi
                    Gardiner Franson

                    and Fraser(re-sign cheap), Holzer, Reilly and whoever you want to target to fill out bottom 3 spots.

  17. Kunitz is extended for another 3 years – 3.85 per year.

    • So far, majority of the penguin fans I see on blogs and forums, they seem to be saying “See you later, Letang.” They don’t think he’s worth elite money for 7 Million. He hasn’t scored more than 10 goals in a season, but in his last 2 seasons he’s 0.93 points per game – nearly a PPG for a D-player is pretty huge. He’s smooth on the Ice and deadly on the powerplay. I think he easily takes 6-7 million from other teams.

      • mapleleafsfan says:

        HFboards last year wouldn’t trade Letang for Kessel (from a Pitts POV). I’ve never seen non-leafs fans (ok maybe habs fans) turn on a player so hard.

        Letang hasn’t been a minus player since his sophomore year. He’s incredibly skilled. A norris candidate season with a shaky (still ppg) playoffs and he’s getting run out of town. Letang is still a top5-10 Dman in the league IMO. I’d take him on my team any day of the week, and pittsburg will miss him when he’s gone.

        • It just goes to show you that you’re only as good as your last impression with the fans. Penguin fans are so upset about being swept that they will over look everything good about Letang. From this point on, Letang is worthless, unless they keep him and he has a good start to the season…then all is forgiven, until a mistake happens.

          For some reason, fans are more forgiving towards forwards than a guy playing D.

        • DannyLeafs says:

          He has been so valuable to the Pens too. They play worse when Letang is out of the lineup then when Crosby or Malkin are out. He makes mistakes in his own end, but he is so good and holding on to the puck and moving it out of his teams zone. He isn’t terrible in his own end either, just not as good as other top defensmen. Hard to get compared to guys like Chara, Weber, Suter etc. He is very elite offensively, and with the right partner could be absolutely lethal all round.

    • mapleleafsfan says:

      Great contract for an underrated player.

  18. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    20+ goals 50-70 pts every year. No raise really.
    Shattenkirk as well, 4 yrs $4.25 per for a 24 yr old d-man who is starting to put up 40+ pt seasons.
    Anismov 3 yrs $3 per basically.
    No huge overpayments there.

  19. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    I thought only Leaf fans run D-men out of town.LOL

  20. realistic_leafs_fan says:

    Would anyone do Kulimen, Percy, 2013 1st(21st overall) for Letang
    IF
    you already had a deal in place with Winnipeg to trade Phaneuf for Stuart and 2013 1st(13th overall)?

    Can you imagine Phaneuf and Byfgulein together?

    • I think you do that deal even if you don’t have any deals in place. I’m sure you can always move Phaneuf – and now that you get Letang, you could potentially accept a solid return without worrying about upgrading Phaneuf with a minute cruncher, or striking gold with the return.

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