UFA a Player's Perspective

Stop Crying Already

Time and time again I end up reading blogs and opinions from angered hockey fans expressing resentment towards top end players not signing with their teams. These sentiments are even more highlighted in hockey cities such as my hometown of Montreal. Now, here is a different perspective for you. Life as a Player. I’ll focus formost on the Canadiens only because I’m most familiar with their situation. The whole city was outraged when the city couldn’t land Daniel Briere or Ryan Smyth. Well lets look at factors for them deciding their futures.

Briere just came off a carreer season where he notted 95 points after arbitration for a one year contract. He signed with Philly for Eight years. Everybody in Montreal couldn’t believe that a French Canadian player refused to sign with the bleu blanc and rouge. But isn’t it obvious why he didn’t. How much pressure would he have to endure on a bad game, how much of the 7 million dollars would he see after taxes. What happens if he fails to produce in the 4th or 5th year of his contract? He will be hung by the media that’s what. At 7 million, in Montreal, he will only net 3.6 million dollars. As appose to say.. ummm Alberta where taxes are lower and he’ll net 4.3. Now the States, or philly, its pretty much estimated that he’ll clear about 5 million dollars. Isn’t that more attractive. But die hard ignorant habs fans will say “why would he snub the opportunity to play for his boyhood team”… come on.. honestly, do you think he really cares, this is a man with a family, in the best position possible for his carreer, he’s no longer that boy in his driveway hoisting an imaginary Stanley cup for his beloved Habs (if he ever was). This is a grown man, with grown up decisions. And if it doesn’t work out in philly after 4 years, sure he’ll hear about it.. but lets face it.. not as much as if he was in Montreal. He just secured his future good or bad for eight years, that a great deal for an individual. He’ll be on a team that was last place last year, the fans will be content with a playoff appearance or with an 8 or 9th position at the end of the season. If Montreal got him at that contract, we’d be angered if we weren’t a contender. Please.

Briere Never Wanted Montreal!

And why is it that people automatically assume that any French Canadian has this desire to play for the Habs. And as soon as one is on the market, either the trade market or via free agency, all of the habs fans assume that for sure this player will come home. Get real. The glory days are long gone, and to be honest, I think all these storied French Canadian legends like the Richards, Beliveau, Cornoyer, Lafleur, Plante etc, living in this time frame where there is 30 teams, and they have a chance of making great money after taxes somewhere else… they wouldn’t stay as loyal to the Habs… OH no.. That’s right I said it… I’m a habs fan whos admitting that these guys would explore options in other cities! I see it now… “how could you say that” .. Be quiet… you know its true…. besides that, in their time, the habs had first choice on French Canadian players.

Drafting well our only hope

Montreal, as I’m sad to say, we’ll always have a problem getting markee talent. Not many players want to play here. They’re only hope is to draft well, and through the trade market from teams wanted to shed salaries. I thought that Gainey was Risk adverse, but lest face it, he came in at a horrible time in organizational history, and now he’s got nobody to dance with. They’ll have to focus on developing players, and drafting well. Everybody is saying we shouldn’t be afraid to trade draft picks. Well guess what, it’s the only way to get decent players.

Sheldon’s got to secure his Future

Now my next man. Sheldon Souray. I’m a big fan of him, I liked his leadershipe ability, how he’d stick up for his teamates.. He’s presence on the Power Play, that big shot. But let’s face it, hockey players only dream of the position he got into. He had a career year, where he broke a record for PP goals by a defencemen. Yes he was a -28, but still, he’ll get at least a 4-5 yr deal for 4-6 million. Good for him, he lucked out. Though I don’t think his season was a fluke, but I’m not at all convinced he’ll be able to post those numbers again. And I’m sure, Souray is unsure if he can do it again either, how could he be! But he’s in a good position to take care of himself and his family for 4-5 years for big money, regardless if he doesn’t produce. I would do it! Would you? Loyalty doesn’t mean anything, this is a business, would you hold out on getting more money and better benefits at another company just so you can be loyal to your present employer and your present co-workers? Probably not!


46 Responses to UFA a Player's Perspective

  1. Komic-J says:

    Jesus Christ !!!

    Now, I don't mean to bash you personally, but seriously…this has got to stop. I didn't see that many fans frustrated over Brière's decision not to sign with us, especially at that price. Sure, it would've been nice to get a local boy like Brière, but everyone knows Gainey did his best.

    The reason I, and other fans, are criticizing Gainey right now has NOTHING to do with Brière, Smyth or Souray. It has everything to do with the lack of progression in the last five years (well, fifteeen but you can only blame Gainey for so much) and the fact that he did make some questionable calls in the past (keeping Souray, signing Samsonov, trading Ribeiro for a 6th defenseman…and personally, I would add Hamrlik to that list, but that's another debate).

    I just don't see that many fans upset by us NOT signing Brière, and I have no reason why it keeps coming up everytime someone questions Gainey's work…because it has NOTHING to do with it.

    Sorry again if that seemed aggressive, it's nothing personal. I just can't seem to make it clear.

  2. NHLman says:

    Souray could put up even better numbers with a team like the Rangers or San Jose where he is rumored to go. Imagine Souray at the point on a powerplay with Jagr, Straka, Gomez, and Shanahan/Prucha/Drury, or Thornton, Marleau, Cheechoo, and Carle/Michalek/Bernier. That could be magic. 

  3. PointMeAtTheSky says:

    I agree with you.

    But personally money isn't everything. I mean if I was making 7 bucks an hour at a place I loved, with people i loved, and a good boss, and I was offered 20 bucks an hour to go somewhere else, If i didn't think I would be as happy in that environment, I wouldn't do it. But i guess that's beside the point, as Montreal is a WORSE environment to play in.

    However, I know that if I was a hockey player, and was going to get paid a few million dollars either way, I would jump at the chance to play for my hometown team, or any of the Canadian teams. Except maybe Toronto…

    Anyway, that's just me, but good article!

  4. PointMeAtTheSky says:

    True, he might not be right about why your upset, BUT he's got right right on why UFA's don't want to come to Montreal.

  5. Komic-J says:

    I’m not saying he isn’t right about that…this was my reaction to the “Stop Crying Already”… :)

  6. juicer says:

    I have to agree with this guy. I find we didnt need Daniel Briere that much what we really needed was a winger like Ryan Smyth because the Canadiens last Left Wingers i find. Are top guy is Higgins who wont play on the 1st line next season because him and Plekanec’s play really well together. Ryan Smyth was the guy i wanted the Habs to sign. Only problem is that he wanted to play out west and not in the east.

    Souray:
    Sheldon Souray 19PPG most ever as a D-man. Will he ever had a season like that? likely not because a lot of players play really well the ladst season of there contract so in free agency they will score big money. I find the 4 year deal worth 22mill that was rejected by Souray was a little greety on his part because 5.5mill a year is a lot of money.

  7. PointMeAtTheSky says:

    Heh, of course of course. :)

  8. habsoverserver says:

    This is what happens when an organization confuses effort with achievement and action with progress.  It goes beyond Gainey. 

    How can anyone be blamed for montreal not making the playoffs?  Koivu had the most points in his career. Souray was the biggest powerplay machine in history.  The farm system is ranked number one. 

    Clearly if not for the evil media and critical fans, there would have been a parade down St. Catherine Street and everyone would have been able to loot a flat panel tv. 

    We know why free agents don't choose Montreal.  No one wants to be associated with mediocrity.  Even the forum ghosts signed an offer sheet and are moving to Anaheim.  This team died when they left Lafleur twisting in the wind 25 years ago.  It just took so long to bury it. 

  9. habsoverserver says:

    Drafting and trading is the way to build.  But it doens't need to take this long. 

  10. Iceman23 says:

    I'm just going to say that you really need to understand why fans get upset when big names leave their team.  Alot of fans put trust and loyalty into some of these guys and when you up and leave to sign some huge contract with another team, it makes you look like you didn't care about the fans or the organization you played for or sometimes even the game you are playing.

    I'm a Devils fan and seeing Gomez go was expected, but I had some hope that he would remain loyal and stay with us.  When he jumped ship, especially to a team that we despise, that really feels like a huge slap in the face to us fans.  And when I heard that Rafalski left, I was in complete shock, because he was the backbone of our defense, but I'm not holding anything against Rafalski, because he went to play for basically his home town and I completely understand that.  However, Gomez went to play just for more money that he really isn't worth.  But I'm not losing any sleep over either of them, because I think we're gonna end up with a much better team anyway.

    And to answer the last question you asked about loyalty and more money, I'm gonna guess that you've never played hockey in your life, because someone who has played hockey should never think the way you do.  Greed is a horrible problem with all sports these days, luckily the NHL has a low quantity of it.  Somewhere like the NBA doesn't and you can see how it's killing the sport.  You bet your ass I'd turn down a contract for more money to remain loyal to my team and my fans and you know why??  Because I'm playing the game that I love and I grew up loving and playing and the fact that I'm getting paid an ungodly amount of money in the first place, whether it be $4 million a year or $1 million a year, I should be thankful I even got the chance to play on the same surface as guys like Bobby Orr and Wayne Gretzky.

    If a person is in the NHL just to play it as a business then they really have no place in the NHL in my opinion.  If all your doing is playing for the highest bidder, then you are no better than Gary Bettman.  You should be playing for YOUR team, the team you feel suits you best and the fans that love you and cheer for you to win a Cup every year.  Money should never be a factor for where you go.  Players have signed for less money to go to teams they loved or wanted to play for.  Your way of thinking and the fact that you see the NHL as a business is exactly why this sport is dying. 

    How many little kids do you see gathering in neighborhoods and sitting in their driveways, waiting for their "Team Captains" to draft one of them and when they get picked say, "I can't play for you today, I'm holding out for more money from him"?!  Perhaps too many people are seeing it as a business and not enough people seeing it as that Sunday after church when you couldn't wait to get back home and put your skates on and go play on the pond in your back yard and pretend you were Wayne Gretzky taking a pass from Mark Messier to score that final goal for the Stanley Cup win in overtime.

  11. PointMeAtTheSky says:

    Amen Brother.

  12. Komic-J says:

    Amen… This is exactly what hockey should be.

    And that's why I have so much respect right now for a guy like Iginla. Sure, he makes a lot of money. But outhere, on the market, he could get so much more. Yet, he decided not to wait for free agency to stay in Calgary, a place he really loves and, if I'm not mistaken, for the exact same salary he was earning in his last contract, eventhough some players signed the craziest deal this year.

    It's nice to have talent on your team, but if you can get that and class, it's even better !

  13. camerak says:

    It's only taken this long because Rejean Houle/Andre Savard didn't just trade the farm, they sent the seeds out too.  Look at the players that have developed into NHL players that started out in Montreal or Fredericton/Hamilton over the last 10 years.  You can't move the foundation without protecting the house, which is something neither of them ever did.

  14. dvast8 says:

    WAH WAH WAH… the comments to his article are just hilarious.. "blame gainey"

    heh.. the guy has built 3 teams that have gone to the finals, and 1 team that won a stanley cup (even if hull cheated lol) still won a cup either way.

    You don't blame a guy whose done nothing but WIN in his life.
    You guys have no patience. Montreal is a dump to play in for most NHLers.
    Kovalev doesnt even care anymore, People go after Saku in the papers, the guy had freaking cancer, and eye injuries, omg. What the hell is wrong with Montreal? That city is full of retarded journalist, that need to read what they wrote before they send them to publishing.

    Briere's Deal is crap, 8yrs and 10mil in the 1st year for a guy who WONT make top3 in scoring. He is NOT Thorton or Crosby. Hes not even Iginla. I know Danny's cousin, danny's NOT a good teammate, hes a *****y little prick, When things started going wrong in the East Conf. Finals. He lipped off Ruff and blamed Drury. but of course no one knows that cause it was behind closed doors.

    Montreal just needs to get bigger. I don't know what everyone is panicing about. You got Huet whose going to be a good solid goalie who can steal you games, Halak last year omg where did that guy come from? You had 3 goalies that can steal you games. Now you got 2 left.

    Everything starts from the goal out. Don't fret. Le Habitans will be fine, they might suck this year, but next year they will make the playoffs.

  15. habsrock99 says:

    In all honesty, you make some good points but not a lot. Saying none of those storied players would be a Hab nowadays is a crock of shit. The one thing that sets apart this "new NHL" and the good ol' Days of the 60's and 70's is one key attribute that seems to have been lost over the last 40 years. LOYALTY!!! The way I see it, if I had the chance to play in the NHL, I'd say ***** the money and play where I wanna play. Not go to some broken down city that can't field a hockey winner to save their lives. Now, personally, yeah having Briere woulda been nice but I don't want him for 8 goddamn years, especially at his money. The Habs were a phone call away from netting him. He was as good as signed until Martin Biron called Briere and changed his mind. Fine, we'll win without him where as him, Timonen, Hartnell and Gagne will hurt Philly over the next 5-8 years becaue of their money. As for Souray, he is loyal to Montreal but he also wants to be near his daughter, 100% understandable. Playing in Montreal ruined Souray's marriage because his wife lived in Georgia, where her acting career was, and he played in Montreal and was away from home for up to 8 months a year. Do I want him to re-sign, hells yes. Will he? Probably not unles he takes a major discount. Now, your little paragraph on Briere not wanting Montreal, complete and utter bull shit. He wanted badly to play in Montreal but as I stated earlier, he decided to take the money and play with his best friend. And your tax thing is just a bit wrong because Alberta, as of 2006, had the highest tax bracket among Canadian athletes in Canada. Now this may have changed but the fact of the matter still remains, Iginla is set to lose 4 million of his 7 million dollars next season. Drafting well isn't the only way to go because as almost every single hockey fan knows, only a small number of players drafted ever make an impact on the NHL. Of those top prospects Montreal has, only like 3-4 will ever last as a full-time NHL player, not every single one of them as I have read on this site. Now, I didn't really want to bash your article this much but I get rather passionate when defending the Habs. But, overall, it was fairly decent and different then most you will read on this site.

  16. NHLman says:

    The purity of professional sports, and the athletes has been long gone. Tons of players say they love their franchise and a bunch of other stuff, but few are sincere. Most players really only love the almighty dollar. The fact of the matter is that it is hard to have real loyalty these days because the organizations' motivations have changed as well. Beloved players can easily be traded away without notice; winning and making money is all that matters. It all started when the Brooklyn Dodgers left Brooklyn, everything changed and has been continually going downhill.

  17. Komic-J says:

    May I ask who the third goalie is ?!?

  18. Knowledge says:

    Thats really cute Iceman! how old are you! i'm guessing in your teens! I've played hockey competitively actually, and let me tell you, though I understand you wanting to have more loyalty by these players. Its just not realistic though. In a perfect world there would be no greed in sports. However, the old time hockey you're talking about is fantastic, but they just simply didn't have the options they have now. And money changes everything, thats an important lesson. And to sign on for a lesser contract and for lesser years when the grass is greener on the other side. You have to remember, us as hockey fans growing up in Canada, its our dream to make the 'show'.. but i know 3 guys i use to play with who are either in the NHL or in the minor league system, and if you listen to their stories, their struggles playing pro hockey, you understand why these players want to keep long contracts for more money. Cause any day, in any sports, you're not performing, and it happens, cause they are all human… The owners or GM will not doubt replace them. They are paid to win! not to play.. to win… and when you're not winning, you are dispensable… and GMs are just as cuthroat. Talk to any player in the NHL… doesn't matter their level of loyalty, they will always be happy for someone who signs a big contract… they know the nature fo the beast… ITs time for you to realize that unfortunately.. the NHL is around to make money, so are every team. Not because of dreams, because of money, not because they want loyalty.. nope.. they want money… welcome to life!

  19. DoubleDown says:

    think about that for a second…with all that talent, there will be less opportunity for him. his numbers will go down because he won’t be the only option.

    and whatever team signs souray to a long-term deal will be very, very disappointed.

  20. neilios says:

    Just a little CANUCK news guys they are on a mission to pick up either Brad Richards or Patty Marleau the rumored players going the other way is Ohlund,Morrison and Schnieder.Just some rumblings outta Lebrun and Ludzig's mouth on there talk show today the reason is they never signed anyone on the free agent market is to save some money to trade for one of those players and after they make one of those trades they will pursue Souray for about 4.5 mill.

  21. Komic-J says:

    Hmmm…

    Well, first I'd like to appologize (although I'm perfectly okay about what I said in my first comment) to the author because, when I saw the "Stop Crying Already" in bold and underlined, I thought for sure it was another article about how we aren't suppose to criticize Gainey's work. I have to admit it, that's where I stopped reading and posted my first comment. So I appologize for "over-reacting" there.

    You have some pretty good point. In fact, I think I agree with everything there, especially the lines under "Brière Never Wanted Montreal!"

    There's one thing though…Souray's case.

    Now, I know that loyalty doesn't really exist in sports anymore, but here's what's bothering me. When Gainey decided not to trade Souray at the deadline last year, one could assume that he talked with his "quarterback" to feel him out. Right now, I think it's faire to assume that Souray never really thought he would be back in Montreal. And I'm not blaming him…like you said, you would do it, and I would do it too…

    But someone, in my opinion, has to take the blame for that. Either Gainey didn't really feel him out, and made a huge mistake by not dealing him…either Souray basically lied to himself and the organisation by stating he really wanted to be a part of the team's future. Now, like I said…I don't know who to blame there…but someone failed. And yes, loyalty is far gone. But Souray did play 6 seasons for Montreal…he doesn't HAVE to re-sign with them just because of that, but he has to be honest about his desire to stay or not with the team after July 1st. And right now, the fact he turned down the Habs offer is leading me to believe that he had a pretty good feeling that he would be playing somewhere else next season.

    Now before you say anything, let me just state for the record that, personally, I didn't want Souray back…not at that price anyway. I liked Souray a lot while he was there, but I'm glad Gainey didn't overspend for him. But it would've been nice to see Souray tell Gainey at the deadline:

    "Look, here's what I'm looking for next year…clear in my pocket. The Canadiens would have to offer X to me to retain my services since we're overtaxed here. If you don't think you can match that offer, make a trade and get whatever you can get for me. Montreal was good for me, and I've been good for Montreal. Let's not end this on a sour note."

    That's the kind of "loyalty" I would expect from any player…

  22. MTL_HABS_24 says:

    I hope he wasn’t refering to Abby.

  23. habsoverserver says:

    most of the farm system was drafted by savard.  savard got the players who are the core of the team. 

    gainey let a few decent prospects go, but there hasn't been an outstanding pick for a long time.

  24. habsoverserver says:

    Gainey should have made an offer and if Souray rejected it, he could have traded him.  That's how Edmonton got great compensation for Smyth. 

  25. habsoverserver says:

    Gainey has one of the worst coaching records in NHL history.  His finals with MN was a fluke.  Clarke bult that team.  As a GM, he succeeded by outspending everyone which he can't do anymore.  He managed to blow Dallas up by sticking them with Turgeon and Audette and letting talented forwards leave. 

  26. Komic-J says:

    Yep…that's exactly what I said at the deadline last season…

  27. Knowledge says:

    I agree with you 100%. There is some courtesy that should be demanded from players, especially since the habs still put confidence in him throughout his injuries.. Something like we'd give an employer two weeks notice. I believe that that Gainey had some inclination that he wouldn't be back, but didn't trade him because the deadline was so far from the end of the season. And if at that point they traded him, it would have been like telling the fans, we've accepted the fact that were not making the playoffs, there is always next year. And lets face it.. that wouldn't sit right with our hungry fans. i know they traded Rivet, but at the time he was in a slump.. Souray was tearing it up, and i believe the habs had a legitimate chance to make the playoffs. Losing Souray at that point would have lessened their chances of making the playoffs substancially, more so than losing Rivet. But now they lost two of their best team Leaders. Yet i'm not as dissapointed as i thought i'd be that Souray didn't accept such a lucrative deal. All this to say.. Apology accepted!

  28. Iceman23 says:

    Actually, I'm 27.  And I happen to be friends with a few guys who know exactly what I'm talking about, Lou Lamoriello and the Devils executive staff.  Lou knows the values and importance of hockey as a sport and that is why he makes such questionable signings.  He doesn't sign players for high dollar skill, he signs them for their heart and will to win.  He was very good friends with Herb Brooks and has taken a page out of his life's book.  When we don't have that, he lets them go.  As you've seen in the past with Holik and now Gomez.

    It's good to know that you've played hockey for so long and still have this opinion.  I'm going to guess that's why you haven't made it very far in your career.  When you play for money, you DO NOT have the same will to win as when you play for honor.  One of the reasons our team is so successful is because of the types of playes I'm talking about.  Hell, Marty re-negotiated his contract and lowered his pay to make room for other people under our salary cap.  And that's arguably the best goalie in the world/history right there.  So don't give me any BS about a perfect world and me needing to be realistic, because the NHL is one of the only places left where men do actually still play for honor and not for their wallets.

  29. habsalicious says:

    Nah, it died when they traded Roy.

  30. Atomic_Wedgy says:

    I don't think you can compare the difference b/w 7 dollars and 20 dollars with the difference of millions of dollars.  They are not the same thing.  A lot of people say they would play for a million dollars even if they were worth 6 on the open market, but that is BS.  No one would actually do that.  This is their job, this is how they earn their cash.  Everyone in life enjoys getting a raise.

  31. Atomic_Wedgy says:

    You would feel like that for the first year definitely, maybe even the 2nd.  But by the time you reached UFA status, you would be looking to get paid.  Don't kid yourself.  I'm not saying this is the way things should be.  I definitely agree the players should all be donating their money to worthy causes and just keeping what they need to live and they should be happy to do it cause they get to play hockey for a living.  Players should never high stick each other or hit from behind out of respect for each other.  Except, this is real life, not a fantasy land under the sea where everyone lives in perfect harmony.  As a kid, i thought I would be in the NHL FOR SURE! There was no way I wasn't going to make it.  You think all kinds of crazy things as a kid, it doesn't mean they are true in "grown up land".  In fact, they rarely are.

  32. sharmuta44 says:

    Off topic he would net the same in either Quebec or ALberta INcome TAx is federal not provincial, true there is no pst in alberta, as a canadian you should understand the difference between federal and provincial.

  33. TheCanadianHozer says:

    Being from Quebec I can tell you that when it comes time to pay your taxes you have to claim your money to both Quebec and Canada, when I lived in New Brunswick for a couple years I paid less taxes (which was pretty sweet) since I only had to file with Canada and there was no "New Brunswick Tax")

  34. Iceman23 says:

    I feel bad for some of you all, I really do.  I know the world is full of greed, sports are full of greed and we all can't be perfect, but the NHL is the one sport left that does still have some honor, but fans like you all, trying to make excuses for it sure puts a dent in it.

    I'm glad to know that I know plenty of people, professional hockey players and the like, who don't have the same feelings as you all and who do still have some respect and honor for their sport and the people around them.

  35. habsrock99 says:

    he was referring to that goalies…umm..whats his name?…won the Gold at the World Juniors.ummm. for the life of me i forget his name. jeez. won the Calder Cup with Hmilton.OH YA. A little known goalie by the name of Carey Price.

  36. Komic-J says:

    Okay…well, he said we had three goalies of that caliber…

    1- Huet…
    2- Price…
    3- ?!?!

  37. rojoke says:

    I think you better re-check your 2007 tax guide.  Those pink pages in it are to calculate your provincial taxes.  Quebec is the only province that requires you to file a completely separate return, but each province still calculates their own income taxes.

  38. rojoke says:

    There’s one solution to all of these problems outside the rink. Winning. The team has been pretty lousy since their last Cup in ’93, and that can only be rectified by winning. They haven’t hosted a first round playoff series, haven’t won a division, haven’t even challenged for a division title in years. At a certain point, people get antsy, waiting to see if you can get back to that level. Screw the press that actually think they can do the GM job without breaking a sweat. We know they can’t, the hockey world knows they can’t, and even they know they can’t, but it gives some of them a sense of pride to tear people down who can’t even get a job as a scout now, let alone an executive position (and I think you know who I am referring to).

    The team is kind of running in place since Gainey took over. Optimists say they aren’t getting any worse, pessimists say they aren’t getting any better. But with any team, the level of success you have on the ice will alleviate a whole lot of negatives off of it. And when the team starts winning and challenging for division titles, the press hacks will have nothing to whine about, the pressure will ease a little, and free agents will start looking at the Canadiens in a different, more positive light.

  39. MTL_HABS_24 says:

    Too soon to say Halak is in that category, but who knows…

  40. Komic-J says:

    Well, Halak is still there…he said we lost one. So I'm guessing Aebischer ?!? Theodore ?!?

    Unless he's talking about Patrick Roy…in that case, maybe we should tell him that we also had Dryden.

  41. Komic-J says:

    I know you're not the one who "made" this rumor, but…

    1) They've been trying to ship Morrison and Ohlund for two years…and they're still in Vancouver.

    2) San Jose might be looking to trade Marleau, but no-way he's going to Vancouver.

    3) Vancouver didn't sign anyone…because they don't have the money to do it.

    4) Since Ohlund isn't going anywhere, I just don't see them going after Souray. Mitchell, Ohlund and Salo at $3.5…would be way too much money spent on defense.

  42. Avim86 says:

    The family issue is crap 5 million , 4 million , 3.5 after taxes. He brush his teeth with gold toothpaste and still have money leftover to buy a small island , I truly feel for the professional hockey league players that make way too much money and complain oh so much. How about they shed the profits around to the people working in the industry instead of screwing hard working people with mimimum wage salaries.

  43. habsrock99 says:

    I believe he is referring to Danis as the one we lost because from everything I have read, I haven't heard any report of the Habs giving him a qualifying offer or anything. So I'm thinking he's a UFA

  44. ferron says:

        That is correct, it died when they hired Tremblay and Houle, Roy had enough comment sense to get the f–k out of there when he did! Yes, it died when ROY left. Most painful times as a habs fan, in the fall of 1995…………….

  45. 29teamsrock says:

    Great tax bit ther guy… You should look into the cost of living when you do somthing like that… a 3 bed room house in Montreal will cost you 300 000 and in alberta a 3 bed room shit box will cost you 750 000 plus you would have to live with red necks instead of hot chicks. 

    Nice try tho.
  46. Rico420 says:

    It's obvious that last season the players all quit under Carbonneau for some reason..and it doesn't make sense to me why they would…they play for one of the hardest working players in history as a GM, and play under three guys who never took a shift off when they played in the NHL..

    The main problem last season was the whole what do we do with Samsonov soap opera, Carbonneau coached him lousy, paired with Koivu and Kovalev he would have likely hit the 20 goal plateau and we would have still made the playoffs..

    Anyway this year Higgins will be healthy all season, Koivu will be ready to roll, Halak, Price and Huet will be pushing each other in the pipes, and the way that the whole offseason looks it's gonna be a dogfight for the North East next season anyway.

    Go Habs Go.

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