UPDATE to the Malkin Rumor

Here’s more from Eklund on this crazy rumor… (The only reason I’m posting this is because he was one if not the only guy who had rumored Samsonov signing to Montreal)

“First I must chime in on the “Rumor.” I spent the whole night with Kevin Gibson and we were dodging bullets from angry hockey fans. Rather uncalled for. It is a rumor, and it is circulating in the hockey world. Will it happen? Could it happen? Should it happen? Discussing these kinds of things is what hockey fans have done since time began.

I can verify that when I called some sources, one of them had heard the rumor a day prior to Kevin putting it out and another agent confirmed it “was entirely possible if Montreal upped the ante a bit.”

Why would Pittsburgh move Malkin?

Talking to an agent who has dealt with Shero in his first year the agent said, “Shero comes from the Poile school of thought. And that school, like in Nashville, is not to build with a few superstar players, but rather several solid players. Shero already has one big superstar that will be at the max when his contract comes due. Do two 8 million dollar players worked on a team like Pitsburgh? And then you have the revenue uncertainty off new ownership and no new building yet to take into account. And you also have a team that needs lots of help depth-wise.”

Why would Montreal move all those players for Malkin?

I’ve been talking to some French-Canadian players over the summer. Everyone assumes that they would love to play for the Habs, and although they do there is also an intense pressure on them. One theory is that there has not been a “Superstar” on the Habs since Patrick Roy, and before that Guy LaFleur. Because of the environment in Montreal, the feeling is that the team has lacked that one identity that could shield the other players and allow them to perform at a solid level. Koivu and Kovalev aren’t “that guy.” So now, every kid, especially every French Canadian kid is look at to be “that guy.” The Montreal fans are dying for a star, and once they get a star, the others Habs will immediately become better. Malkin fits this spot perfectly and with all of the uncertainty in Pittsburgh it would not be surprising at all if Montreal is pursuing this.

Will Pittsburgh move him?

I certainly can’t say that I have heard they will. I did hear last year at one point that they put out feelers at one point, and realized that there was a bidding war to be had of “Lidrosesque” proportions…and when the Nordiques traded Lindros they were in a very similar spot to where the Pens are now. They had a star in Sakic and needed depth. They got a lot in that trade from the Flyers including Stanley Cups. It was the defining moment of that franchise. Would they have done that move had Eric not refused to play? Nope. Would they have won the Cups in Colorado? Nope. Would they have moved to Colorado if Lindros would have come right in and played for them? No one really knows that answer…

So should Pittsburgh move Malkin?

I guess if you look at Quebec and Lindros you’d have to say yes. But that assumes a lot as well. And Lindros is such a hot button topic anyway. Should the Flyers have made the trade? I still say they had to. Eric was “the next one.” And in Philly we had gone a long time since having our Bobby Clarke’s and Bernie Parent’s. The Flyers that got Lindros were a lot like the Habs of today. So I can see why both teams have to be thinking about this…Also, the trade would free up the cap space to sign Dumont in Montreal. That scenario didn’t exist way back when.”

12 Responses to UPDATE to the Malkin Rumor

  1. blarneylad says:

    i think its possible, but not very, i doubt gainey would do that

  2. peejoe416 says:

    no way no how too much for another highly touted youg gun .

    gainey is no fool he would never give up that manyroster players for one guy just to free up cap space to bring in dumont maybe it would be for bigger plans like marleau and dumont in a three way deal of some sort.

  3. jocool_88 says:

    throw in gonchar and it would be alright… pitts needs to spend to get to the min cap and a trade for those 4 players would be an extra 3-4 million.

  4. jocool_88 says:

    throw in gonchar and it would be alright… pitts needs to spend to get to the min cap and a trade for those 4 players would be an extra 3-4 million.

  5. habsoverserver says:

    i’ve been a member of this site for about five years and i have never seen the need to write a comment like this but, this needs to be said.

    “When the Nordiques traded Lindros they were in a very similar spot to where the Pens are now.”

    this is possibly the dumbest thing i ever read. the nords traded lindros, cuz lindros refused to play for him, not cuz they needed depth. this shows that whoever wrote this has less than minimal hockey knowledge.

    lindros was auctioned to the highest bidder – remember the rangers also offered a ton for him. if malkin is going to be moved, there will definately be an auction and who is to say that montreal has the best package.

    while malkin may prove to be as good as lindros, there is no way to suggest that some combo of Hab second liners is as good an offer as Forsberg, four playres, two draft picks and $15 million cash.

    i am being hugely charitable when i say that only a drunk moron on mushrooms could make a comparison between an alleged lowball offer from montreal for malkin and the lindros auction.

    as an aside,

    the pens are up for sale – are the pens worth more with Malkin and Crosby together or with Crosby and some no-name former Habs?

    and to suggest that the nords moved to colorado b/c of lindros is the only thing that could possibly supplant the utter stupidity of the lindros comparison

    in short – whoever wrote this has less brains than my sneakers.

  6. newromanceforkids says:

    What if…

    If this trade would be (which I don’t think)

    it would be great for Montreal.

    Ryder leaving / Dumont in… so that is kif-kif

    then ribs gone / Malkin in… better (for MTL)

    souray gone (UFA next year?) / streit or coté in on last D line with 5-10 min. of ice

    Aibesher gone / Danis in (C.Price right behind.

    And for the pens, well its a team builder!!! they need some D real bad, they need a N.1 goalie, they need a wing.

  7. mike11 says:

    when i first saw this rumor i seriously burst out laughing. i thought that this site had gone to far! but now that i think about it it really does make a lot of sense for both sides. I thought this was the biggest joke ever and as a canadiens fan felt we should definetly NOT do it. But now i acctually think it should!

    prolly wont but would be real nice.

    PS by the way ManiaX, good post anmd explanation, you may have ben laughed at and yelled at by many unknowlageable ppl on this site, but i think you know ur stuff. GOOD POST!

  8. habs_punk says:

    All I can say is that you really dumbed down the original comments in order to make your comments. Took some stuff out of context. In all honesty, your comments don’t show you to have much more brains than MY sneakers.

    I don’t completely disagree with you, I just think your roundabout logic doesn’t enlighten the subject any further.

    Besides, can you imagine the numbers that Ryder would put up playing on a line with Crosby?

  9. LuckyLuc98 says:

    Emelin is better the Cote…. and second of all you forgot Bouillon is injured and a 3rd line of defense that has Cote and streit playin together means a lot of rubber for Huet.

  10. TheStryker says:

    That would be a great trade for Montreal, but im not too sure that Shero is that dense to take it.

    1- The Penguins don’t need a goaltender… Marc Andre Fleury

    2- They don’t need another skilled center in Rebeiro- Armstrong and some kid named Crosby

    3- They don’t need a D-man who will be unrestricted at the end of the year and who would leave

    4- Ryder they could use. Ryder would become a 40-45 goal scorer playing with Crosby

    The only way this trade would happen is if the Habe throw in Komisarek, and I hope to god they don’t. I have a feeling that Komisarek is going to get a lot of comparrisons to Rod Langway.

  11. habsoverserver says:

    i’m not denying the rumor – i already delt with that a while ago. we all know that gainey made an offer for crosby last year and the pens are still laughing about it. so, it isn’t illogical that he made an offer for malkin.

    however, i am dealing with the flawed thought process and illogical comparisons of this post:

    comparing this situation to the lindros deal is just plain stupid.

    suggesting that the nords left cuz they traded lindros is even more stupid.

    but thinking that if malkin is for sale that montreal can automatically and exclusively offer the best deal is the most presumptious load of bs ever printed on this site.

    ryder would do fine with crosby. but think of the numbers hejduk,gagne or any All-Star caliber wing would put up with Crosby.

    and for that matter think of the numbers malkin himself could put up with crosby. and malkin will be cheaper for more years than ryder or anyone else already in the NHL.

    bottom line – there is no reason to assume, as this author mistakenly attempts to portray, that:

    (1)the pens have any motivation to trade malkin (this isn’t a lindros refuses to play situation)

    (2) montreal can make the best offer

    it is reasonable to assume that montreal asked about malkin and would move any number of players to get him

  12. habsoverserver says:

    Spectors quotes Richard Labbe of La Presse calling this “an insane rumor.”

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