USA! USA!

TSN reports: “A freak goal credited to Patrick O’Sullivan of the OHL’s Mississauga IceDogs with 5:12 remaining capped a U.S. comeback in a 4-3 win over Canada in the final of the world junior hockey championships Monday.Canadian goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury attempted to clear the puck but it bounced off defenceman Braydon Coburn and into the net despite a wild lunge from Fleury.”

This is the first time the U.S. has won the World Junior Championship. To me, this shows how far the U.S. has come with its junior hockey programs, and shows a bright future for American hockey in the NHL. Congratulations to Canada for a great game. “The 2005 world junior hockey championship will be held in Grand Forks, N.D., and the U.S. will go in as the defending champion.”


44 Responses to USA! USA!

  1. nskerr says:

    Fleury shoots and scores. Oh wait. Oops.

  2. Wills says:

    This was a great WJ’s to watch. USA came in the favorites with all the pressure on them and won it with a lucky heart breaking goal in the third, after scoring two goals in the third to tie it. USA was long overdue, and they finally lived up to their expectations. Canada did very well for a team who was suppose to be rebuilding and only had two returning players. The Canadians are going to be really good next year with at least 12 players being able to return. Praise was the best player I watched at this years WJ’s, and I was also really impressed with Stewart from Canada, and Filppula from Finland. It was also nice to see Finland the host team win a medal, they really had a team with a lot of heart and emotion (ask anyone who watched them in the USA game).

  3. Bubblenuts says:

    The interview with Fleury after the game was the first time I have seen him NOT smiling while he’s talking about how bad they lost. Any Pitts fans notice that?

    Then again Canada isn’t going to be on the hook for 4 million huh? I’d smile too.

  4. GeniushockeyKID says:

    This is my second post. WOOOOOO!!! I got lucky though. I couldnt believe no one had beat me to it.

  5. spudnickster says:

    Canada choked plain and simple. Not taking anything away from the US team. The Americans may have been the favorite but when you go into the 3rd leading by 2 and you lose its called CHOKING. This is the 3rd year in a row. Last year I thought the Russians were the better team. This year I had no doubt in my mind that they could beat the US, but in the end they couldn’t handle the pressure. And another thing what made the Americans the favorites is it because they had 8 returnies and Canada only had 2. Thats retarded who ever thought thats what makes a team the favorites. Canada had teh most 1st round draft choices on thier team. They had more players on team Canada that were captains on thier respective teams then any other country. Also they were supposed to have much more superior goaltending then any team in the tournament. With all that you would have thought that Canada would have been the favorites. Because they had only 2 returnies they were not the favorites. So next year Canada has the possibility of having 13 returnies so that will make them the favorites. Give me a F’in break. They could have every player returning next year and their is nothing that would make me believe that they won’t choke for a 4th consecutive year.

  6. FlyinBrian says:

    I’m not surprised the vast Canadian fanbase didn’t pipe in with this tidbit of info… we collectively take these things pretty hard.

    I work downtown T.O. and the nearby bar was packed with people watching the game and virtually dying after squandering yet another third-period lead… let alone the fluke goal. Like most people I should’ve been at work, and like most people I was crushed by the unfortunate loss.

    We all can’t figure out why Canada can produce the majority of the best players in the world, yet have troubles winning gold everytime.

    My lament, however, is over: the U.S. played a great game and showed a ton of heart. Coming back like that in the third is truly commendable, and the bad goal shouldn’t take away from that.

    I look forward to the rematch next year on your pond.

  7. Wills says:

    When you have only two players returning, you have to think they lack experience, which is a huge factor believe it or not. Canada was not the favorites because they lacked the experience and maturity other teams had.

  8. The_Conductor says:

    He choked. Fleury Choked.

    Here is my only hope and this is for Fleury’s sake. He let in the bad goal… on himself and well I hope he now doesn’t turn out like Salo. One bad goal makes him play like crap for the next year.

  9. Kashin says:

    MA Fluery played bad yesterday.

    Another bad Mike Milbury move: not drafting Zach Praise.

    Do you believe in miracles?

  10. Primis says:

    Congrats to Team USA. No doubt they got lucky with that last goal, but also kudos to them for coming back from being down 3-1 in the first place.

    *steps up on The Soapbox*

    Some thoughts on Team Canada — I hope some Canadians read this and agree with me and maybe the message gets filtered through to others.

    There really is no reason for Canadians to panic just because they’re not winning gold *every* year. I’m getting tired of hearing all this talk about how Canada needs to revamp its youth and junior hockey programs. Hogwash.

    Canada isn’t playing worse. A lot of the rest of the world has just caught up a bit. Team USA didn’t upset them, they were actually favored by most going in. This just happens to be probably one of the best crops of young American hockey players we’ve ever had. Other years it’s Sweden or Russia or something who have a Good Year.

    I was extremely disappointed when Canada began closing some of their junior levels to foreigners. It was a knee-jerk reaction then, and the wrong one I feel. Consequently some of these European guys and such are going to play NCAA hockey or something instead and THEN it’ll dillute the pool in Canada.

    Also something for Canadians to take note of — where once there were 2 or 3 countries there are now 5 or 6. It’s not Czechoslovakia anymore — there’s the Czech Republic and Slovakia — both very good hockey countries on their own. And it’s not the Soviet Union anymore, it’s Russia and Latvia and Belarus and all sorts of other smaller countries. That makes the odds even greater for someone other than Canada to win gold, as more people play hockey in these countries and their programs get going. This is one of the big reasons why Russia isn’t as dominant anymore too.

    I really, really hope Canada doesn’t mess with its program further though in a knee-jerk reaction to this. There’s nothing wrong with the program guys, you just can’t expect to win every tournament anymore with more and more countries playing more hockey than ever…

    *steps off soapbox*

    — Primis.

  11. MaSTiK says:

    nicely put,

    peace

  12. TC_4 says:

    That’s exactly what I’ve said the last 3 years. Canada vs Russia in 02: toss up as to who was better, they were pretty even. Canada vs Russia in 03: Russia was better, but Canada had way more heart. Canada vs USA in 04: Canada was far and away the better team. If Fleury plays the way he’s capable of playing, it’s a 3-1 win for Canada at worst! They’ve choked now 3 years in a row, and this one hurts the worst.

  13. TC_4 says:

    I don’t agree with you on a lot of this Primis, but it’s not like you said anything harsh. People in Canada are feeling a lot better now then we were 4 or 5 years ago about our hockey. If this tournament is an indication, USA and Canada are far and above European hockey. What the hell happend to Sweeden??? They haven’t done anything in the World Jrs for a long time now! Finland is still where they usually are, the Czech’s now for the 3rd year in a row looked bad after winning back to back gold’s. Everyone know’s that if these 3 team Canada teams had some good luck instead of bad would have won gold all 3 times. Last year was the only time out of the 3 they pretty much weren’t the better team. I don’t want to put it all on the one goal, Canada had terrible bounces all game. The first goal wouldn’t have happend if the ref didn’t get in the way of a clearing attempt. The second USA goal was just sweet, but they should have been protecting the lead. And the 3rd goal…..how often do you get a bounce like that? Fleury played that perfect, and the puck was on edge, so it happend to bounce up over him and in. That’s just pure luck! Now at the same time, I don’t want to be sounding sour about losing to you guys, I’d much rather lose to our cousin’s(who say time and time again how much they respect our country, love playing here, and respect our teams), then lose to the Russians(remember when Svitov spit on Sutherby 2 years ago? Class act!). But you can’t honestly say the USA was the better team, because they weren’t. I watched that game 2 times now, and Canada was clearly better. But that’s the way the game goes.

  14. TC_4 says:

    Next year, Canada will blow out everyone in North Dakota, it won’t even be funny, and it won’t even be that great when we win. It’s way overdue now. Yesterday had we won, this country would be estatic. We weren’t supposed to win, we were too young, but we would have beat the favorites in the final. It will be very bittersweet next year.

  15. SwiftLEAF says:

    Congradulations USA. Since you’ve never won before, I guess it’s only fair that you’d get it eventually. It is just a shame you had to win by a fluke goal and not in better style. Though what can you do, there’s always next year.

  16. TC_4 says:

    13 team Canada players can return, and if there is a lockout in the NHL, Nathan Horton and Patrice Bergeron are also eligable.

  17. distance7 says:

    Maybe we can let this team play for us at the World Cup of Hockey…everyone is either old or just not good…hey, WE’VE GOT ROENICK! *slaps myself*

  18. TheThrill says:

    Your first post was much better than this one….i can’t imagine how shitty your posts will be by the time you get to your 5th or 6th

  19. Lint07 says:

    fluke goals, but guess what? The Americans worked so hard, they deserved those lucky bounces.

    Congrats USA, you deserved it. (It doesen’t cange the fact that you were lucky though!)

  20. MantaRay says:

    Odin Bless Lou Lamoriello!

    Zach Parise THE STEAL OF THE DRAFT!!!

    I wish I could have seen the finals!

  21. TC_4 says:

    What an idiot Kevin Lowe was. He could have just kept the pick and drafted Parise who is a Doug Weight clone(probably better), but instead he trades down for a guy who can’t even beat a 16 year old out for a spot on team Canada. Nice move by Lamoriello, but you gotta feel for us Oiler fans Manta! However, in the finals, Phaneuf schooled Parise. It’s not a knock on Zach, it just shows how good Dion is going to be.

  22. TC_4 says:

    Hard work got them the last goal, sheer luck go them tied though. That puck doesn’t get over Fleury 99 times out of 100.

  23. Just-Checking-In says:

    I can not remember who the commentators were for the draft, however as the teams would select, they kept bad mouthing everyone for letting Parise slide. They kept saying this kid is going to make teams regret passing on him.

  24. Lynchmob450 says:

    Parise will be a SOLID NHLer in NJ…but so will Michael (Kramer) Richards and Jeff Carter in Philly.

    I’m disappointed Canada didn’t come back with the gold (especially since they lost to the damn Yankees), but payback will be SWEEEEEET in the World Cup and the Olympics :)

  25. Primis says:

    I don’t agree with you on a lot of this Primis, but it’s not like you said anything harsh. People in Canada are feeling a lot better now then we were 4 or 5 years ago about our hockey.

    Then ya’ll need to show it in a better manner. 😉 The moment that game ended I’ve been hearing nothing but Prophecies of Hockey Doom from my friends north of the border.

    If this tournament is an indication, USA and Canada are far and above European hockey.

    I don’t know that I’d go that far. The WJC’s in particular are cyclical, depending on the veteranship present on the rosters (Team USA had a LOT of experience for once). Most of the countries will sway back in forth in terms of their showings at the WJC’s.

    I think right now in some of the European countries there is a large gap between their young elite players and the rest of their good players whereas this time around USA and Canada were more solid across-the-board. But that can all change quickly, especially if a couple good young players form a country find themselves in the NHL early on…

    And the 3rd goal…..how often do you get a bounce like that?

    You know, when I saw that goal I found myself wondering why it is I’ve seen 3 goals like that recently. That goal, Pavel Datsyuk scored one on a play exactly like that (I forget against who), and I remember seeing a third one on Sportscenter from another game, or maybe it was in a CCHA game during the GLI, I forget. I thought that was weird at the time, it takes a weird deflection to do that…

    Anyhow. My point was simply that I think it’d be unfair to your program to complain just because you’ve been missing out on the Gold lately. A simple look at the Team Canada roster and the names will tell you there’s nothing wrong happening with the development there…

    — Primis.

  26. Primis says:

    Next year, Canada will blow out everyone in North Dakota, it won’t even be funny

    Yeah, next year could be Crosby’s coming-out party. Then again, you never know how many of those kids that would be back could find themselves busy on an NHL roster this time next year… that’s really what’s hard to predict. Most of the Team USA kids will be gone though.

    — Primis.

  27. Freeze says:

    Before the WJHC started, Don Cherry on Hockey Night In Canada expressed concern over the young age and inexperience of the Canadian roster. In the end, Grapes was right.

    Congratulations, USA!!

  28. TC_4 says:

    But considering there will probably be a lockout…..but it shows how deep that draft was, when Anthony Stewart(picked 25th overall)is being compared to Todd Bertuzzi! Personally, I see it.

  29. TC_4 says:

    But considering there will probably be a lockout…..but it shows how deep that draft was, when Anthony Stewart(picked 25th overall)is being compared to Todd Bertuzzi! Personally, I see it.

  30. TC_4 says:

    Oh exactly, and it’s nice to see an American sticking up for Canadian hockey! The way that American hockey players talk about how they respect us so much and love playing up here makes me very proud, and it should everyone else up here as well!

  31. Habfanforever says:

    Parise will be a tremendous NHL and a great fit in NJ. Even though I can’t argue that it is surprising that Parise was drafted so late in the first round, the steal of the draft may be Montreal’s Andrei Kastsistyn of Belarus. If it wasn’t for his alleged “health issues” (apparently resolved) he would have been taken in the top 5 with some experts stating he has more upside than Zherdev. We’ll see him next year at the world juniors. This year he finished division I group b with 5g, 5a in 10 games.

  32. Wills says:

    That Pavel Datsyuk goal was scored againts St.Louis, shorthanded too.

  33. Lint07 says:

    Like him or not, Cherry knows what he’s talkin about.

  34. hockey-mongloid says:

    Why isn’t more criticism landing on the shoulders of the Canadian coach, Mario “Tatoo” Durocher? Let’s face it, this clown was too busy looking for “da plane boss, da plane” instead of watching what was unfolding before his beady little eyes. Maybe Canada should have kept a booster seat on the bench for him, because they led by two goals going into the third and appeared to have the yanks by the ‘nads. They get a goal against, and the americans come on strong- the Canadians looked dazed and unsure what to do. Why didn’t Mario call a time out, settle down the troops, and point out they were still in control? Why didn’t he give Crosby more ice when it’s obvious the kid is capable of making a difference by himself with his creativity? Why didn’t he recognize that Fleury had been less than spectacular leading up to the game, and completely out of it in the most important one? Why? I’ll tell you why- as a hockey coach Mario Durocher is a total and complete failure. A coach should lead, and it’s clear his players were playing for their country, not for this Keebler Elf with a clipboard. Let’s be honest here. How many 18 year old guys are going to listen to a Cirque Du Soleil reject tell them how to play hockey? NONE! He should have had the guts to put in another goalie when it became apparent M.A. Fleury was busy daydreaming and he should have had the guts to play a 16 year old phenom who was ready for this tournament. Most of all he should have had the wherewithall to recognize a bad situation and fix it. The third period was a bad situation and the only solution Mario had was being mopped up by a Finnish housekeeper at the time. Doing something and having it turn out to be the wrong thing is infinitely better than doing nothing and watching it all fall apart. Thanks for the silver medal Mario.

  35. GeniushockeyKID says:

    WOW!!!! thanx buddy, but i dont see you writing any articles around here…

  36. DirtySanchez says:

    Relax!!!! The USA deserved the win and it will do wonders for the American Hockey program. The USA rocks and is #1 and is the best country around except for every American in it, President Bush, their absurd foreign policy bent on raping and pillaging lesser nations. Oh Yeah and they are super FAT rednecks….heeeeehaaaaawww!

  37. Zamboni says:

    Good grief. You posted a game score on an internet message board. I’d hate to see what would happen if anything actually exciting ever happened to you. You’d probably have an aneurysm.

    Please just don’t turn into one of those people who pisses and moans every time someone ever mentions this game again. You don’t have a patent on “U.S. Beats Canada 4-3.” And none of the “Hey, that was my article” or “Whaaaaaaaaa, I said that 7 days, 3 hours, and 12 minutes ago” nonsense, okay?

    Anyway, kid, it was a nice article, just giving you a little sh*t in fun.

    GO USA HOCKEY!!!

  38. rojoke says:

    I wondered why Durocher didn’t call time after the third US goal myself. Hell, he could have even put Harding in for a mini-timeout, then put Fleury back at the next stoppage. At the very least, it would have made sense to do it after the game winner was scored. There was still plenty of time to re-focus and get the equalizer. But there were many chances that ended up in missed shots, or Montoya (1st goalie drafted this summer, I predict) just made the save.

    I also wonder if Fleury should have ever been sent back. He may have said that he didn’t mind being sent to Finland, but it was obvious, in his play and his comments after some games, that he wasn’t all there. For a goalie, the game is as much mental as anything else, and Fleury said after almost every game that he wasn’t happy with his performance. And to go into a gold medal game with any kind of doubt is almost like spotting the opposition a goal. Fleury gets a 7-1 semi-final win, and he’s not happy with his performance yet? Then for God’s sake, keep it to yourself, or at least keep it in the dressing room. You have to know that Eaves mentioned that his confidence was low during the second intermission, and scoring two goals in the third, he probably said on the bench many times, to keep the team on the attack. It was plain to see that the US won this game as much as Canada lost it.

  39. rojoke says:

    It will be interesting to see how next year’s tournament draws fans, when you consider that many of this year’s US team won’t be back. I remember when the tournament was in Boston, they didn’t draw nearly as much interest as they wanted. And you can bet that the media coverage won’t be above what this year’s got. And it’s a shame too, because this tournament is probably second only to the Olympics in terms of quality of play.

  40. Lynchmob450 says:

    I’m glad the TRUTH is finally out!

  41. GeniushockeyKID says:

    taken shit from ppl like you is part of my everyday life so i really dont mind. and i know its nothing i orginal so yeah, tell me something i dont know. im not that excited…

  42. G_Money says:

    This makes no sense!

    Why do I keep hearing USA deserved to win that game? CANADA WAS CLEARLY THE BETTER TEAM IN THAT GAME – IT WAS PATHETIC THAT USA WON.

    However they cannot press much against Canadians- this is their first time ever winning it and all.

    And a should-have-won game in the GOLD medal game (they were expected to win bronze) against the AMERICANS- who only have a very small amount of players returning (good experience then) is pretty amazing for the young and skilled Canadian team.

    Oh well just adding to how great it will be when the Canadians whipe everyone of the ice in Grand Forks, especially the Americans.

  43. TC_4 says:

    “it will do wonders for the American Hockey program.” May I ask how??? Nobody down there even saw the god damn game! Did you???

  44. TC_4 says:

    Question Manta: You didn’t want Mike Comrie because you said he’s too small for the Eastern Conference, right? Brian Gionta, Brian Rafalski, Zach Parise…..these guys are giants or what???

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