What The Leafs Should Do Wheather JFJ Likes It Or Not?

Let’s be realistic the leafs are not going to win the cup, so why should they give up so much future for a player that will only get them into game 7 or round 1? Oneill, Lindros, Czerkawski are the only players on this team that if they are not playing with sundin do not fit anywhere else. Of all 3 czerkawski is the fastest, probably the only one with speed, he has the fastest slapshot of all 3 and more accurate. Lindros is the biggest and can through some pretty big hits that can change the momentum of a game. Oneill, no speed, no hard hits, and not that good along the boards, the only reason he has 15 goals is because he is playing with sundin, which is why sundin needs someone better.


I say we get rid of Oneill, he can still be pretty dangerous if he is with the right people, send him and Khavanov to vancouver for a 3rd pick.

Now for Czerkawski, this guy is one of our fastest players and dangerous shooters, why the hell does quinn not play him? Czerkawski would be good on the powerplay instead of allison , like this:

czer-sundin-tucker

kaberle-mccabe

the goaltender has to watch out for 3 dangerous shooters, tucker, czer, mccabe, so bascially the same powerplay, czer can do aliison’s job and can shoot.

As for these Gaborik and Zetterberg rumors, I think i would rather take zetterberg, but why would detroit want to get rid of him? If it’s Gaborik the leafs should trade Allison and a 3rd pick, that is a dead on fare trade, i think we might be getting a tiny bit ripped off. If it’s Zetterberg we should trade Allison and a 2nd pick, now that’s reasonable.

Now we have someone to play with Sundin. Now we just need to touch up our defence. Since Phoenix is not going to make the playoffs why not send over Kronwall and a 2nd pick for Derek Morris.

Zetterberg or Gaborik-Sundin-Lindros

Steen-Stajan-Tucker

Czerkawski-Wellwood-Poni

Kilger-Domi-Ondrus

Morris-Mccabe

Kaberle-Coliaicovo

Harrison-Wozniewski

Belfour

Tellqvist

line 1:

skill players: zett or gab, sundin

tough players: lindros,sundin

line 2:

skill players: all of them

tough players: none, but all have great deking ability

line 3:

skill players: wellwood, poni

tough players: fedoruk

line 4:

skill players: Kilger, Ondrus

tough players: Domi

So we have toughness and skill on every line. So wheather JFJ likes it or not, this is what he should do, or atleast try to make one of these trades. I’m so sick of people offering up allison, wellwood and a 2nd pick for gaborik…..wat a rip off for us, why would leaf fans suggest that trade.

oh bye that way JFJ, the one thing I did different than you was that I actually took into consideration who would play with who, not just go out and sign just any random good players. Sure Oneill and Lindros are good players but if they are both not playing with sundin they do not fit on this team and as a result one of them had to be traded.

That’s a solid team. any questions, comments, complaints, beefs, *****es!!!!!


31 Responses to What The Leafs Should Do Wheather JFJ Likes It Or Not?

  1. sidleaf says:

    first off, where did you pull fedoruk into the picture? second off, what on earth makes you think either minnisoda or detroit would pull either of your trades? you gotta be dreaming…those kinna deals are based on players, picks are nothing more then icing on the cake. allison puts up points for us, but no team would give up players of that calibur for a guy who would be a second line center at best…

  2. toronto77 says:

    ya i thought the leafs needed a tough guy, so i said fedoruk, but i forgot about tucker, so i took fedoruk out from the lines, but forgot to take him out from that part….i guess i fopaw.

  3. toronto77 says:

    gaborik and zetterberg rumors have been around for the past 2 weeks, and every1 was talking about, so i figured if it were to happen this is the best we can do.

  4. PaulK123 says:

    Marian Gaborik for Jason Allison and a 3rd round pick is a rip off for the leafs? Are you *****ing on crack! The Wild would be getting ripped off big time! A fair trade is Allison, Wellwood, 2nd round pick for Gaborik. Antoehr thing, were the hell did you get Fedorok from? Allison 2nd round pick for Zetterberg? Are you a mother*****er? Mats Sundin isn’t worth Henrik Zetterberg! Stupid shit,

    stop making dumb posts and stop *****en embbarising Leafs fans. By the way I would like to apologize for my last post, sorry Leafs fans.

  5. The-President says:

    Here is what the Leafs should do for this season and next:

    1st off here is a blockbuster trade:

    Sundin

    McCabe

    Belfour

    Pogge

    2nd rounder

    to

    Florida for:

    Jokinen

    Bouwmeester

    Luongo

    These players no longer want to play for Florida, and Mike Keenan is a retard so both go hand in hand… This trade would provide Florida with some proven veterans, and Leadership, something they have been missing for the past oh I dont know 5 years.

    Next:

    Trade

    Antropov, Stajan, Kronwall, Wozienewski, 3rd rounder for:

    Bell, Arnoson, and Vandermeer.

    Then:

    Trade Allison, Wellwood, and a 1st rounder to Minnesota for Gaborik.

    Trade Klee, Lindros, Berg, to what ever teams would be interested in them, but if thats not possible just let them walk next summer. Along with Belak get him the hell out of here!

    Before all of you people bash this post, We need a cup not a pretender, we need to get serious, we need to be able to compete with the elite teams and not get shut out 8-0 to Ottawa, Wow we beat Atalanta in a blow out, well guess what Atlanta is just what we are as of now, a PRETENDER!

    JFJ needs to get off his lazy ass and turn this team into a serious contender and he needs to make drastic changes, not just tinker around with the line up and trade for guys like Fedoruk, thats not going to please Leaf Fans, and thats certainly not going to bring us closer to the Cup. For Once I want to hear a sports commentater say the Leafs are Favorites to Win the Cup! It must feel good to Be a Canes, Sens, Wings, Canucks Fan.

    Here would be the Leafs Cup Contender Lineup:

    Bell/Jokinen/Gaborik

    Tucker/Arnoson/O’neill

    Kilger/Steen/Ponikarovsky

    Pohl/Wilm/Domi

    Kaberle/Bouwmeester

    Coliacovo/Vandermeer

    Harrison/Pilar

    Luongo

    Tellqvist

    P.S.

    I don’t know how valuable you think Allison is, but Allison and a 3rd rounder is never going to bring you Gaborik, You must be on crack. Let me ask you this question, Do you think Allison is better then Sundin and Lindros? Do you think just Sundin alone would fetch Gaborik? If you do then you need to get your head examined, same with your comment on Zetterberg!

  6. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    Pff… the reason O’neill’s only got 15 goals is because he doesn’t play enough with Sundin.

    The Leafs real problem, is Pat Quinn spreads the talent too much.

    Lindros-Sundin-Tucker

    O’neill-Allison-Ponikarovsky

    Steen-Wellwood-Stajan

    Kilger-Wilm-Czerkawski

    Domi

    McCabe-Kaberle

    Colaiacovo-Klee

    Kronwall-Khavanov

    Harrison

    Belfour

    Tellqvist

    I’d call that a pretty good team. Not a contender, but it’s a team that would compete well, and possibley steal a playoff round.

  7. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    “line 2:

    skill players: all of them

    tough players: none, but all have great deking ability”

    Because Darcy Tucker is all skill and no grit…

  8. leafinator says:

    trademan stop posting absolutely idiotic comments! If you were the GM of the leafs all leaf fans would be praying for the good old days of the Harold Ballard era. You are a complete mongoloid. All the trades you have posted are unrealistic and no team would accept them! NO GM WOULD TRADE GABORIK FOR ALLISON AND A PICK…. If Allison was worth anything, or teams actually wanted him he would be outta T.O by now. The rumors about Zetterberg or Datsyuk for Sundin involve Sundin and a pick or a prospect for one of them…. I could say trade Domi for Zetterberg and O’neill for Ovechkin but i know it will never happen and that its just moronic…then i could post the lines after those deals; but it will never happen so why bother. The only way the deals you brainstorm could ever happen is if you were the other teams GM or if Helen Keller owned, managed, coached and scouted the teams you want these blockbuster deals to be with. Also I want to know on which contending team could Stajan be your #2 Center. Stajan at best is a #3 center on an mediocre team and a #4 center on a good team but because of his size and inability to play the body, hit or take a hit he probably would get substituted for a Wilm type player just younger and faster and possibly bigger. Lindros now is not a power forward. He is cautious and tenative when approaching the blue line or going to the net. Any area where he can get hit he is reluctant to be. Lindros doesnt even rush the puck over the blue line anymore. The last time he did Doig was waiting for him… DOIG??????? and it resulted in a concussion. Domi as a fourth line center as well; theres just nothing that can be said too fully grasp the genius of that. Bring up Pohl or anyone skilled, younger and quicker to play that position. Everything you have posted is retarted and you should stop posting, unless you are a Sens fan and then I understand these posts. You make all Leaf fans look bad and you yourself should just be embarrassed too post such CRAP. Its like the fat chick on a beach. Always wearing a moo-moo or a one piece bathing suit with all the frills and the vertical lines too look slimmer. She doesnt go in a G-string; flaunting because she does not want too embarass herself or cause a naseau epidemic. You should follow the fat chicks lead and stop posting your ideas and opinions. Only post Leaf news ie. a trade just happened, player injuries etc. because your thoughts and opinions are just way too hard to stomach. (I apologize too all the big girls out there for using them as an example because a little junk in the trunk is always good) I also feel the Leafs should waive Domi and Belak and bring in Emmanuel Sandhu as their enforcer. He could actually scare the tough guys in the league by goosing them and blowing them kisses. Which is alot more then Domi and Belak have done this year.

  9. leafinator says:

    trademan stop posting absolutely idiotic comments! If you were the GM of the leafs all leaf fans would be praying for the good old days of the Harold Ballard era. You are a complete mongoloid. All the trades you have posted are unrealistic and no team would accept them! NO GM WOULD TRADE GABORIK FOR ALLISON AND A PICK…. If Allison was worth anything, or teams actually wanted him he would be outta T.O by now. The rumors about Zetterberg or Datsyuk for Sundin involve Sundin and a pick or a prospect for one of them…. I could say trade Domi for Zetterberg and O’neill for Ovechkin but i know it will never happen and that its just moronic…then i could post the lines after those deals; but it will never happen so why bother. The only way the deals you brainstorm could ever happen is if you were the other teams GM or if Helen Keller owned, managed, coached and scouted the teams you want these blockbuster deals to be with. Also I want to know on which contending team could Stajan be your #2 Center. Stajan at best is a #3 center on an mediocre team and a #4 center on a good team but because of his size and inability to play the body, hit or take a hit he probably would get substituted for a Wilm type player just younger and faster and possibly bigger. Lindros now is not a power forward. He is cautious and tenative when approaching the blue line or going to the net. Any area where he can get hit he is reluctant to be. Lindros doesnt even rush the puck over the blue line anymore. The last time he did Doig was waiting for him… DOIG??????? and it resulted in a concussion. Domi as a fourth line center as well; theres just nothing that can be said too fully grasp the genius of that. Bring up Pohl or anyone skilled, younger and quicker to play that position. Everything you have posted is retarted and you should stop posting, unless you are a Sens fan and then I understand these posts. You make all Leaf fans look bad and you yourself should just be embarrassed too post such CRAP. Its like the fat chick on a beach. Always wearing a moo-moo or a one piece bathing suit with all the frills and the vertical lines too look slimmer. She doesnt go in a G-string; flaunting because she does not want too embarass herself or cause a naseau epidemic. You should follow the fat chicks lead and stop posting your ideas and opinions. Only post Leaf news ie. a trade just happened, player injuries etc. because your thoughts and opinions are just way too hard to stomach. (I apologize too all the big girls out there for using them as an example because a little junk in the trunk is always good) I also feel the Leafs should waive Domi and Belak and bring in Emmanuel Sandhu as their enforcer. He could actually scare the tough guys in the league by goosing them and blowing them kisses. Which is alot more then Domi and Belak have done this year.

  10. The-President says:

    Trademan isnt the one that wrote the article.

  11. Marky2Fresh says:

    Here’s a potential 3-way trade Code thinks has about 50% chance of happenning. Again, take it for what it’s worth.

    Florida – Al Montoya and Belfour

    Rangers- Florida’s first round pick and prospect from one of the two teams.

    Leafs- Roberto Luongo

  12. Marky2Fresh says:

    That one was from code, this one is from Eklund

    As I told you yesterday, I am working on a big trade rumor and here it is…,… They will deny it up and down, but Mats Sundin could very well be moving. I have heard everyone deny it, and I expect them to mock me ruthlessly on Leafs Lunch as they did when I broke the Hossa/ Heatley trade…but here it is..this is from an email from a very old source in the Midwest…. “As you stated before, Mats name was put out in rumors a few months ago in a very strategic way to see who would call. And at least four teams did, and this is coming from “you know who” himself: LA, Detroit, Boston and Chicago.

    All the teams just inquired and were told that the Sundin wasn`t available. But this is a classic tactic…float a rumor, see who calls to check it, deny that the player is available, but take note on who calls. Then in the last week, through some external people, talks started up again with all four teams. Due to the way the Toronto media jumps on things they once again called on another classic tactic. Third party discussions. Basically it is like high school but it works. It also is used constantly in free agent talks before the start of the signing periods. It goes like this. Ask one of your friends to ask one of her friends if she wants to go on a date. No paper trails. Very few leaks. Unless one of those friends is friends with me. So far this is what I gather Detroit is highly interested in Sundin. Toronto wants either Zets or Dats. And Detroit wants a little more back, but it isn`t that far off. Toronto also likes Visnovski and Frolov. they also like Tuomo and “The Wall” in Chicago, and in Boston they like Lashoff and Raycroft. It also no accident that all these secret talks are going on while most of Toronto is in Italy…” I have several calls out, and I had three other sources that wouldn`t deny, but wouldn`t comment on the record either…..

  13. The-President says:

    Who is Code?

  14. The-President says:

    So Toronto is only giving up Belfour and getting Luongo?

  15. lukeleim says:

    no haha…

    maybe…

    Edmonton – Ed Belfour, Staffan Kronwall

    Florida – Robbie Schremp, Justin Pogge

    Leafs – Roberto Luongo

  16. lukeleim says:

    time to rebuild…

    Mats Sundin & Staffan Kronwall to the Detroit Red Wings for Henrik Zetterberg

    Ed Belfour, Clarke Wilm & Andy Wozniewski to the Edmonton Oilers for Andrew Cogliano & Danny Syvret

    Jason Allison & Ben Ondrus for Jordan Leopold

    Aki Berg to the Nashville Predators for the Predators’ 3rd-round pick in 2006

    Alexander Khavanov to the Vancouver Canucks for

    Tyler Bouck

    Nik Antropov, Kyle Wellwood, Marc Moro, Mariusz Czerkawski to the Chicago Blackhawks for Pavel Vorobiev & Tyler Arnason

    Tucker – Zetterberg – Steen

    Ponikarovsky – Lindros – O’Neill

    Vorobiev – Arnason – Domi

    Kilger – Stajan – Bouck

    ————————-

    Pohl – Belak

    Prospects: Jeremy Williams, Robbie Earl, Roman Kukemberg, Andrew Cogliano

    Kaberle – McCabe

    Leopold – Harrison

    Klee – Colaiacovo

    —————–

    Belak – Brown

    Prospects: Danny Syvret, Ian White, Phil Oreskovic

    Tellqvist

    Aubin

    ——-

    Racine

    Prospects: Tuukka Rask, Justin Pogge, Todd Ford

    avg. age: 24

    salary cost: 27 mil (estimate)

    next year salary cost: 33 mil (estimate)

    cap space left: 12 mil (estimate)

    ————————————————-

    off season signings: Patrik Elias, Ed Jovanovski & Curtis Joseph

    Next Year’s Line-up:

    Steen – Zetterberg – Elias

    Ponikarovsky – Lindros – Tucker

    Vorobiev – Arnason – O’Neill

    Kilger – Stajan – Domi

    ————————-

    Bouck – Cogliano – Belak

    Pohl – Williams

    Kaberle – McCabe

    Leopold – Jovanovski

    Klee – Colaiacovo

    ——————-

    Harrison – White

    Syvret

    Joseph

    Tellqvist

    ———–

    Pogge

    Rask

  17. lukeleim says:

    That blockbuster wouldnt happen even though it seems like an even trade. I don’t think Florida would want Belfour included. I like the second and third trade proposals as well but they’re also quiet unrealistic. And letting Klee and Lindros go for nothing would be a mistake… Klee is a solid 5th or 6th D and Lindros at 1.5 mil is quiet the bargain even if he only plays 50 to 60 games per season.

  18. goose says:

    here are sum ideas of my potential trades that will get the leas bak in action and make the playoffs.

    1.allison,berg, and a draft pick for gaborik

    2.stajan,khavanov, and belak for datsyuk

    3.klee for morris

    4.belfour gone i dunt no where maybe trade him for cujo and k.ballard.

    5.wilm and dallas’s 6th round draft pick in 2006 and maybe future considerations for zherdev.

    6.antropov to the blackhawks for a 2nd/3rd round pick.

    now this will make fast and powerful players and will make a great team.

    now the lines:

    forwards:

    gaborik-datsyuk-sundin

    tucker-zherdev-O’Neill -lindros injured

    czerkawski-steen-ponikarovsky

    kilger-wellwood-Domi

    extra: Battaglia, and Pohl

    defenceman:

    mccabe-morris

    colaicovo-kaberle

    k.ballard-harrison

    voila. those are good lines for the leafs and i think they will come in at least between 1st-4th in the league if they have this team i made and the’ll do great and i hope u guys like it and peace out!!!!

  19. LeafyMcLeaf says:

    Well I know you were joking about O’neill for Ovechkin, but the only way we’d get him is a deal like this.

    To Toronto:

    -Alexander Ovechkin

    To Washington

    -Ed Belfour

    -Mikael Tellqvist

    -Bryan McCabe

    -Tomas Kaberle

    -Ken Klee

    -Carlo Colaiacovo

    -Alex Khavanov

    -Aki Berg

    -Jay Harrison

    -Staffan Kronwall

    -Jay Harrison

    -Andy Wozniewsky

    -Mats Sundin

    -Eric Lindros

    -Darcy Tucker

    -Jason Allison

    -Jeff O’neill

    -Alexei Ponikarovsky

    -Nik Antropov

    -Matt Stajan

    -Kyle Wellwood

    -Alex Steen

    -Clarke Wilm

    -Tie Domi

    -Chad Kilger

    Washington wouldn’t take Mariusz Choke-kawski.

  20. koolcory77 says:

    if we are doing allison and a 3rd for gaborik, why not call up the thrashers as well and give them berg and a 4th for kovlachuk? :S

  21. Aetherial says:

    I cannot believe the stupidity of those trade ideas. They are bad even for the most delusional of Leaf fans.

  22. toronto77 says:

    ya sorry i had czerkawski on that line but decided to switch him, and forgot to make that change elsewhere.

  23. The-President says:

    JUST SHUT UP MAN, YOU SUCK!, YOU MAKE ALL OF US LEAF FANS LOOK LIKE RETARDS FOR YOUR RETARDED COMMENTS… I SERIOUSLY THINK YOU ARE MENTALLY CHALLENGED, YOU NEVER RESPOND TO OTHER PEOPLES QUESTIONS EITER, WHATS YOUR DEAL? SPEAK UP GOOSE, AND STOP SMOKING CRACK WHILE ON THIS SITE

  24. Toonces99 says:

    Broadly l agree….but, with all due respect, I don’t know about you but Doig was one big SOB…and that hit would have knocked out anyone, but Lindros did seem to get back up and attempt to fight…..

  25. Toonces99 says:

    HA…HA….HA…..YOU PUT THIS POST UP TO MAKE PEOPLE LAUGH….I HOPE..

  26. Toonces99 says:

    First of all it would be considered because Pogge is included. For those that think he will never become a NHL starting goalie, once your done with the crystal ball please let me know the lottery numbers for this weekend. The only that would be hard pressed to happen would be the Gaborik trade….Minny would want a good prospect and l don’t think a third rounder would cut it….

  27. Toonces99 says:

    My bad…misread the article….1st rounder not 3rd rounder….

  28. The-President says:

    So Your saying their good trade proposals?

  29. lukeleim says:

    I’m Sure Kaberle, Tucker, Steen, Stajan, Wellwood, Colaiacovo & a first and second rounder would do it.

  30. The-President says:

    If that would happen then they would have already done it.. I would take Ovechkin, an allstar, over role players anyday

  31. goose says:

    first off i have a 3 way trade here, this will have better goaltending for the leafs:

    to florida: belfour and Carey Price

    to montreal: first round draft pick and future considerations.

    to toronto: luongo

    now there has been a huge rumor that has been circulating for the past week’s. I heard that the Chicago Blackhawk’s are willing to give Tuomo Ruutu and a 1st round draft pick for mats sundin…i say hells yea. Even though sundin is our captain hes been here to long and has to go, but i do like him. Now that reminds me that one of those draft picks could be: Jonathan Toewes, Phil Kessel, or Jack Johnson. I would pick Phil Kessel because hes one of the best players not playing in the n.h.l. right now.

    Now i have another possible trades, so im going to give it my best shot: there was another rumor that the leafs and detroit red wings were ready to swap to, the rumor was datsyuk or zetterberg.

    To me i would pick datsyuk because hes one of my favourite players and can do some really great plays.

    The trade will lool like this:

    to detroit: allison and a high draft pick

    for

    to toronto: datsyuk

    to washington: Klee, stajan, and khavanov

    for

    to toronto: witt and a high draft pick

    to chicago: antropov

    for

    to toronto: arnason

    possible lines:

    tucker-datsyuk-lindros

    czerkawski-arnason-O’Neill

    Steen-wellwood-ponikarovsky

    pohl-Battaglia-Kilger

    extra: domi, and wilm

    mccabe-kaberle

    colaicovo-witt

    harrison-kronwall

    extra: wozniewski, and moro

    luongo

    tellqvist

    now im finished this is a solid team and i hope u like it, i think this team will be a cup contender and win us a cup… yyyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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