What’s Kessel worth

Damien Cox of Sportsnet.ca writes … Deadline Decisions: What’s Kessel worth?

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34 Responses to What’s Kessel worth

  1. nordiques100 says:

    I am hoping say a team like NJ would be interested as they have been willing to trade top 10 picks away (they may end up in the bottom 10 this year), they have a young player to offer up (Larsson may be made available), plus they could ease their financial burden adding a contract (the Leafs could take Cammellari back).

    I’d say that would be the best the Leafs could do.

    • LN91 says:

      There will definitely be teams interested in Kessel…Eapecially teams that have the type of Centres Toronto never had.

      I look to a Columbus…Where Kessel would work perfectly with a Ryan Johansen, not to mention being in a small market which suits him better.

      I think NJ is scorching earth like the Leafs, so I doubt it.

      • doorman says:

        Clb, is a good example, but what would you want from them? I think NJ is more in play then some think as well as the Islanders. I still also thinkthat the Preds are interestd too.

  2. TmLeafan says:

    Phil Kessel has never gotten a fair shake in Toronto. some memebers of the media here are plain idiots. Acting like he is damaged goods and would be a salary dump.

    Read an article on the score the other day and they suggested this:

    to Buffalo for Hudson Fasching, Jake McCabe and a 2nd round draft pick. Just ridiculous. They go on to say these are 2 guys Leafs should covet because they represented the United States at the World Juniors.

    If Kessel gets traded it will only be for a very significant package of established prospects and picks. Or for a player of similar ability that plays defense on a team looking to shake things up.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      Love reading the mid to late 1st, a teams 3rd best prospect and nothing roster player proposals. Why do the Leafs do this? They have 7 more years to trade Kessel and terrible offer will always be there.

    • nordiques100 says:

      His value is down.

      And at 7 years with 8 million cap hit, and the cap likely not going up a whole lot next year, it makes it very difficult to move. or convince teams to take.

      The issue is, with his attitude and his performance on the ice, he is the current face and identity of the team.

      The Leafs, thanks in large part to their best player are considered a soft team with not much heart, no will, and very easy to push around.

      Kessel has this very lazy, no care attitude on the ice, and simply put, the team needs to get rid of that.

      For all his goal scoring talents, he simply is not what the Leafs need right now, and there is legitimate concern that his value will continue to decline even further as more time passes.

      This summer is where the team can maximize his return.

      And to me, the organization has no choice but to part ways with him.

      No, you’re not going to get like RNH, Eberle and Hall lets say for Kessel alone.

      Or Buffalo’s 1st overall pick plus Kane, Bogosian and others. for Kessel alone.

      But yeah you wont get that garbage sabres offer either.

      I think you will get closer to a 1st rounder, a prospect maybe a young roster player plus a contract.

      The Rick Nash trade was Anisimov, Dubinsky, Erixon and a 1st.

      Thats probably a possibility as well. But i think Kessel has less value than Nash at the time Nash was traded as I think Kessel is not as well rounded a player as Nash, who is as dangerous a goal scorer. Hence why a bad contract or maybe a lesser NHLer than Dubinsky will probably be returned to Toronto.

      • leafy says:

        I’m very concerned the Leafs have screwed themselves with so many large contracts.

        • TmLeafan says:

          The Leafs don’t need to convince anyone to take him. Difficult to move is ridiculous if you believe that.

          How short people’s memory can be. This is the guy who has played almost 500 straight games for us and has been a top 5 scorer. He is better than Nash no question. He has had a bad year and an awful month doesn’t make him a burden contract. He will be a good player for a long time, we do not need to give him away.

          I would not be surprised if we keep him, I wouldn’t be mad at all if we got a return for Franson, Phaneuf, Lupul, Bozak, Santorelli, Winnik. Plus what is going to be a top 5 pick, that is plenty to fuel the rebuild.

          • LN91 says:

            By the time a rebuild is complete (that is, if Toronto does not screw themselves by keeping Kessel and remain mediocre) Kessel will be in his 30’s.

            It’s just stupid to keep him, and I think he will be gone sometime soon.

          • leafy says:

            But I’m not just talking about Kessel. I’m talking about all the long and expensive contracts.

            Just imagine, without trades, another 5 years of Bozak, Clarkson, Gardiner and Phaneuf. Holy shit!

  3. TmLeafan says:

    A few examples of what I think he is worth if he gets traded:

    Tor: OEL, Brandon Gormley, 2nd rd pick 2016
    Ari: Kessel, Bozak

    Tor: Michael Dal Colle, Ryan Pulock, 1st rd pick 2016
    NYI: Kessel

    TOR: Shea Theodore, Devante Smith Pelly, 1st rd pick 2015, 2nd rd 2016
    ANA: Kessel

    TOR: Kevin Fiala, Ryan Ellis, 1st rd pick 2015
    NSH: Kessel

  4. TmLeafan says:

    Another one

    TOR: Brett Ritchie, 1st rd pick 2015, 1st rd pick 2016
    DAL: Kessel

    • LN91 says:

      You’re not getting 2 first round picks for Kessel.

      • TmLeafan says:

        Maybe not 2 in succession but you could get 1 plus a top prospect who was a 1st round pick and another piece. Otherwise it makes no sense to trade him.

        • LN91 says:

          Then why do you have a good prospects and 2 top-picks from Dallas?

          Some of your teams (Anaheim and Dallas) do not make sense either.

          Kessel is most likely getting a 1st, roster player, and a blue-chip prospect. And Toronto should take that, Kessel is not working here.

          • TmLeafan says:

            It is a suggested deal if it is tilted in the Leafs favour then it is not by much. Brett Ritchie is not there best prospect and Dallas seems to be willing to go for it in recent years so it is fair to assume they are willing to give up draft picks for an elite scorer. Change the 2016 1st rounder to a 2nd rounder an get them to throw in another prospect.

            Anaheim have a ton of cap space and are a contender in the West. They have the depth at centre to help with Kessel’s defensive deficiencies. They also have a history of making a ton of deals with Toronto over the years.

            Your suggested return is not that far off however “roster player” is very vague. David Clarkson is a roster player.

            • LN91 says:

              Anaheim would have 3 forwards at $8 million a year? Makes no sense as the team can score and they have a great young group of forwards going forward. They would prefer Phaneuf. So, yes, it makes no sense. Dallas is in the same boat as Anaheim.

              You’re not getting a Crosby/Gretzky like package for Kessel. Heck, not even guys like Kovalchuk or Joe Thornton got a package that rich.

              If you want clarification…

              For Kessel (Nashville example)…The value is probably a 1st round pick, Kevin Fiala, and Colin Wilson.

              • TmLeafan says:

                Okay that is almost exactly the same as the Nahsville example I listed. Colin Wilson is a quality player, similar value to Ryan Ellis just plays forward.

                3 forwards at 8 million a year is not unmanageable by any means with a rising cap.

                The Joe Thornton package is a bad example that is widely considered to be one of the most lopsided trades in NHL history. Gretzky was more sold than traded and if Crosby ever got dealt it would be for a lot more than I listed above. Talking 4 first rounders plus additional players.

                Kessel is a more valuable player than Kovalchuk when he got traded. Kovalchuk was a pending UFA and managers were worried he was going to bolt to the KHL which was in a strong financial position at the time.

                He is more valuable than Rick Nash who had a full no trade clause and basically forced them to trade him to the Rangers. Scott Howson is a dreadful GM to begin with and his hands were tied.

                It was meant to entice discussion. And add to the debate that he has a lot more valuable than a lot of people think.

  5. Gambo says:

    Nashville’s top two lines are:

    Forsberg-Ribeiro-Smith
    Wilson-Fisher-Neal

    Kessel would be a needed acquisition. Or any scoring winger. Forsberg and Wilson are both natural centers, next year if Wilson can improve his faceoff ability he will be their 2nd line center and Fisher will be moved down to the 3rd C spot. Smith is definitely not a 1st line RW, oh look Kessel is. Nashville`s centers aren`t great? Well good thing Kessel is still elite without a real 1st line center.

    Teams who finish high in the standings but get knocked out of the playoffs early often make a big move in the off season. Nashville has arguably the best goaltender in the NHL, they have the best Dman in the NHL, it’s no doubt they need a game breaking scorer. Whether it’s on the wing or center.

  6. leafs_wallace93 says:

    And honestly if Jones is involved as if the Leafs wouldn’t throw in either Kadri or Bozak, like Kessel-Bozak-Forsberg couldn’t score at an elite pace.

    Buffalo and Winnipeg have issues down the middle and just made a blockbuster deal for a winger.

  7. LN91 says:

    Price better be playing tonight, and the Habs better win.

    • lafleur10 says:

      we are going to lose tonight to just help u guys out a bit hahaa and ve you 2 points so you creep closer to the teams in front of you and y6ou stay farther away from the top 5 lol that’s why we’re playing tokarski tonight

  8. hockeyfan8 says:

    Tyler Sequin Dougie Hamilton and Tukka Rask woulda sure helped the rebuild…….

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