Who really won these deals?

I have now a list of trades that seemed to be lop sided back then, but who really got the better end when you look at it now?To Quebec: Wendel Clark, Sylvain Lefebvre, Landon Wilson, 1st round pick

To Toronto: Mats Sundin, Todd Warriner, Garth Butcher

Well I didn’t really see the reaction to this deal because I was only 2 years old. But it was the heart and soul of the team back then for an unproven player. Think about it now, Clarke spent about a year in Quebec and eventually went back to the Leafs. Plus he was too often injured to make an impact anyway. Sundin has been in several all star games since then, and has missed the 30 goal mark only once. Coming 15th in goals this year.

To NYR: Anson Carter, Ales Pisa

To Edmonton: Radek Dvorak, Cory Cross

Everyone except Don Cherry said this was a salary dump and a rip off and thought Kevin Lowe wasn’t thinking about making the playoffs. Carter had his worst season last year and I haven’t heard of Pisa since he left Edmonton. Cross was a decent tough defenceman and Dvorak became their new top scorer.

To Toroto: Owen Nolan

To San Jose: Alyn Mcauley, Brad Boyes and 1st round pick.

This comment won’t have anything to do with the pick or Boyes. Right now Nolan has slowed down and has had 1 assist in the playoffs for Toronto and no goals. McCauley was their Captain for a few weeks, got his first hat trick and was nominated for the Selke trophy. (Best defensive forward)

To Toronto: Wendel Clark, Matthieu Schneider, D.J.Smith

To NYI: Darby Hendrickson, Sean Hagerty Kenny Jonsson and 1st round pick (Roberto Luongo)

The Pick wich was Luongo for Clarke and Schneider would have been a decent deal just by looking at how Luongo has done. Schneider and Clarke didn’t do much though and Jonsson turned out to be the Isles best D-man for awhile. I think Toronto regrets this deal due to what they now need is a back up goalie who could take over for Belfour any time and Defence which Jonsson is a great one.

If you disagree please state it I like arguments because it lets me vent my strange strange opinion.


57 Responses to Who really won these deals?

  1. raine_kalisz says:

    Loungo wasn’t the draft pick. It was Jeffrey Keatly and he didn’t amount to anything. It wasn’t even the same year as Loungo. Do your research before just making accusitions….

    http://tsn.ca/nhl/teams/player_bio.asp?player_name=Mats+Sundin&hubName=TOR

  2. mojo19 says:

    After Hartford got Shanny they traded him to Detroit for Paul Coffey and Keith Primeau, and the eventualy Primeau went to Philly for Brind’Amour. So in the long run Hartford/Carolina organization dealt Pronger and has Brind’Amour to show for it.

  3. mojo19 says:

    Good point. Brad Boyes might be a bust, He played one NHL game this year for San Jose and they traded him to Boston at the end of the year in that three way trade with Buffalo. Boyes has been traded twice in 2 years and has only played one nhl game.

  4. habs_punk says:

    what are you on?? pat quinn is still coaching, if the leafs had have gotten luongo, he’d still be in the minors, there’s no way quinn woulda given him a shot at playing in bigs yet.

  5. LeafsCrazy2430 says:

    “To Quebec: Wendel Clark, Sylvain Lefebvre, Landon Wilson, 1st round pick

    To Toronto: Mats Sundin, Todd Warriner, Garth Butcher

    Well I didn’t really see the reaction to this deal because I was only 2 years old. But it was the heart and soul of the team back then for an unproven player. Think about it now, Clarke spent about a year in Quebec and eventually went back to the Leafs. Plus he was too often injured to make an impact anyway. Sundin has been in several all star games since then, and has missed the 30 goal mark only once. Coming 15th in goals this year.”

    The title of this article is, “Who really won these deals?” so with that in mind…

    Since making that trade, Quebec moved to Denver and won two Stanley Cups. Toronto with Mats Sundin has made it to the Eastern Conference finals once.

    So who won the deal? Quebec/Colorado since they have two banners calling them league champs. Sundin is obviously the best player in that deal, but unless he wins them a championship what good is it having the best player if you are never the champion?

    One Problem with your comment. Did Clark, Lefebvre,Wilson, Or the #1 Pick Help Colorado, no, quebec, no. Sure the avs have taken the cup twice but none of the players helped. And quebec never won a cup at all (or at least after the trade). Meanwhile Mats Sundin has lead this team into 3 eastern conference finals appearances, totaled 1089 career season points, 755 with the leafs,and lead them in scoring for the full 10 years he has been with the organization. He has played in 1086 career season games, 762 with the leafs, Reached the 600 assist mark this season, 400 goal mark 2 seasons ago, a +/- of +56, tallying 869 PIMs, 3131 shots, a 14.9 shooting percentage, 85 GWG, 11 GTG, 123 PPG, and 27 SHG.

    His playoff stats: 83 games, 74 pts, a +/- of +3, 72 PIMs, 11 PPG, 1 SHG, 7 GWG, 231 Shots, Shooting a 15.2 shooting percentage.

    HOW MANY PLAYERS DID THAT FOR QUEBEC/COLORADO IN THAT DEAL?

  6. aafiv says:

    … no need to throw a fit because you’re ignorant.

  7. 19Yzerman says:

    Shanny plays on a team that uses the left wing lock. A defensive system that uses a left winger in a defensive role. He has led the league in power play goals. As far as indivdual trophies go? Well I am quite sure pronger would be willing to give up all the NHL awards he has for one Stanley cup win. Shanny has 3 Cup victories under his belt.

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