Who would you rather take – Tavaras or Stamkos

Ok … Say that your team was able to get one of Stamkos or Tavaras … who would your take and why?


59 Responses to Who would you rather take – Tavaras or Stamkos

  1. mojo19 says:

    Wayne Gretzky was an above average skater, that's all. Mario Lemieux was relatively slow, especially after coming back from his first retirement. Steve Yzerman couldn't even skate at all in the '02 playoffs because his knee was hanging on by a thread, and he lead the Red Wings in scoring en route to their cup win.

  2. mojo19 says:

    Komisarek is the least priority, then Beauchemin in my opinion. Kaberle is the coolest back there, he's so smoothe. He's more than just a first pass. However, if he could bring in a real legit top 6 forward I wouldn't be against it, but I don't like the idea of so many Leafs fans of just trading Kaberle for the best package.

    I think my opinion has been voiced a lot though…. Tomas Kaberle for the Hart

  3. reinjosh says:

    I agree with you that its more likely that Forbort falls to 15 than Etem falls to 32. I just don't its likely. But I understand why you want both. They both look like they are going to be great pics.

    After Hall and Seguin, I think that this draft is going to be a complete random draft. Fowler is looking like he could fall a spot or two (although its more likely he just sticks) and after him its anybodies games.

    I think the players that have potential to move alot are Kabanov, Granlund, Pulkinen, Etem and Bjugstad. All have moved a ton on lists since the summer. Kabanov and Pulkinen I think have the most potential to be either complete steals or as you said, teams will be disappointed with them.

    Its going to be an interesting draft for sure. Seeing as only one of my three teams has a pick in the first round, the potential for movement makes it exciting.

  4. reinjosh says:

    I did not realize that Kabanov had left Moncton. Thats huge. That along with a bad season filled with injuries is going to have him drop a lot. I just read an article on NHL.com where it was suggested he could even fall out of the first round. Thats a huge drop from a player people had penciled in as a top 5 choice at the start of the season. I doubt he falls that far but the whole Russian player thing and Radulov/Filatov incidents could scare a lot of teams off from him.

    heres the link
    http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=523144

  5. reinjosh says:

    Well I would agree with you. In my mind, the only way he should be traded, is if he can get us a legit Top 6 forward and maybe even a pick with that. Get full value for him, and not in terms of picks or prospects. Thats a backwards move and not one we need to make. To me, ideally we get a deal fro Kaberle that nets us a top 6 forward and a first rounder. Thats pretty much what he almost went for at the last draft so why not this one after a better year. Something like James Neal and Dallas's first for him (something I have trumpeted quite a bit and for a while haha).

    But I would completely agree with you. The package has to be right. There's no point trading him if we can't improve out top 6 right now. That would be trading him for the sake of trading him.

  6. cam7777 says:

    Exactly.  Thomas is being moved at a disadvantage….not so for Gagne.  And even without that, scoring wingers come at a higher price than aging goalies (even really talented ones).  Why Schneider?  Because he'll be around for 10 years at an affordable rate. 

  7. cam7777 says:

    Sure would be nice to draft Kabanov and Pulkkinen in the second round.  These guys were supposed to be top five selections not so very long ago.

  8. DannyLeafs says:

    I wouldn't go so far as to say that skating is overrated, but I think that fast skaters often get overrated because it is so easy to notice a player who is significantly faster than everybody else. This is simply because players are always skating, they are not always shooting, passing, handling the puck, making hits, or other skills, so it takes much longer to access these skills. What isn't overrated is guys who can skate very fast, and do everything at high speed. This is something that Stamkos can do, and Tavares does not.

    Also, I don't think its just speed. Gretzky, Lemieux, and Yzerman were all good skaters, even when they lost a step their mechanics were good, and their energy and stride was never wasted. Tavares stickhandling will suffer until his skating no longer telegraphs his moves, and defensemen will always have an easier time knocking him off the puck while skating, if his stride doesn't become more fluid.

    I just think that right now, it doesn't seem like there is anything Tavares has over Stamkos, while Stamkos has a huge edge in skating and shooting ability. I also think Stamkos stick handling is better as well. Also, I really don't see how Tavares potential is higher than Stamkos current ability. Stamkos looks like a Hart Contender if he was on the right team, how much better that that could Tavares ever be?

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