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		<title>By: flyersfan10897</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the thing is, there is a big difference between a playoff goalie, and a veteran goalie. only 4 goalies playing in the NHL right now have ever won a cup. four. kolzig has made it past the first round once in his career, and the same for burke, who made the second round 16 years ago. there are not many playoff tested goalies out there, especially available ones. just picking up a playoff goalie is unrealistic, as there are less than a dozen in the league, and most of them are not available.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the thing is, there is a big difference between a playoff goalie, and a veteran goalie. only 4 goalies playing in the NHL right now have ever won a cup. four. kolzig has made it past the first round once in his career, and the same for burke, who made the second round 16 years ago. there are not many playoff tested goalies out there, especially available ones. just picking up a playoff goalie is unrealistic, as there are less than a dozen in the league, and most of them are not available.</p>
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		<title>By: LondonK</title>
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		<dc:creator>LondonK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2004 22:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wasn&#039;t paying much attention to the original article and if it did say that the Devils and the Leafs are the only ones, then I somewhat apologize, but my comment still stands.  Losing that way really means nothing.  In the end the games are still an L in the standings.  Just like Ottawa is 1W-1L against Toronto this year.  Yeah the leafs have gotten blown out by Philly and Ottawa, but at the same time should have won against NJ early in the season (2 seconds left the leafs blew a 2-1 lead), tied another game and lost 1-0 in a snore fest.  And I think that we can all agree that the Devils are the team to beat.  And while the Devils aren&#039;t going to win games 9-1 or anything like that, the leafs very easily could have come out on top in each of those games.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Regading the losses to Philly.  Well they have sucked against them.  I still read less into them than others seem to though.  The first time was an embarassment because they had their lineup and just plain lost the game.  They stunk it up, but they got terrible goaltending.  That loss turned their season around.  The other two losses were again lack of effort but they were much closer score-wise and effort-wise but again soft goaltending and this time they had a massively depleted lineup.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Ottawa win was absolutely solid.  The loss wasn&#039;t.  But Kidd stunk it up letting in 3 soft goals on three soft shots.  That hurts a team real bad and the score snowballed from there as Kidd really sucked.  The had the depleted lineup and once the score was 3-0 the game was over anyway as you don&#039;t come back from 3-0 in the regular season with that kind of depleted lineup.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The next two games against Ottawa will be big for both teams.  If the leafs come out on top I think the most they have to do is split the two games.  But I really feel that Ottawa needs to win both to gain top spot.  Perhaps Ottawa will be pointwise on top but the leafs have the far easier schedule coming up than Ottawa until the end and I think that the leafs will have an easier time gaining points than the Sens.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Regardless this is certainly going to be an interesting finish in the North East.  While it isn&#039;t going to happen Boston and Montreal still have a shot at taking first, and even Buffalo could somehow go on a big streak and climb up the standings (even less likely to happen).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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I just hope that NJ stumbles against their first round opponent as they are the team that worries me the most of anyone in the league.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wasn&#8217;t paying much attention to the original article and if it did say that the Devils and the Leafs are the only ones, then I somewhat apologize, but my comment still stands.  Losing that way really means nothing.  In the end the games are still an L in the standings.  Just like Ottawa is 1W-1L against Toronto this year.  Yeah the leafs have gotten blown out by Philly and Ottawa, but at the same time should have won against NJ early in the season (2 seconds left the leafs blew a 2-1 lead), tied another game and lost 1-0 in a snore fest.  And I think that we can all agree that the Devils are the team to beat.  And while the Devils aren&#8217;t going to win games 9-1 or anything like that, the leafs very easily could have come out on top in each of those games.  </p>
<p>Regading the losses to Philly.  Well they have sucked against them.  I still read less into them than others seem to though.  The first time was an embarassment because they had their lineup and just plain lost the game.  They stunk it up, but they got terrible goaltending.  That loss turned their season around.  The other two losses were again lack of effort but they were much closer score-wise and effort-wise but again soft goaltending and this time they had a massively depleted lineup.</p>
<p>The Ottawa win was absolutely solid.  The loss wasn&#8217;t.  But Kidd stunk it up letting in 3 soft goals on three soft shots.  That hurts a team real bad and the score snowballed from there as Kidd really sucked.  The had the depleted lineup and once the score was 3-0 the game was over anyway as you don&#8217;t come back from 3-0 in the regular season with that kind of depleted lineup.</p>
<p>The next two games against Ottawa will be big for both teams.  If the leafs come out on top I think the most they have to do is split the two games.  But I really feel that Ottawa needs to win both to gain top spot.  Perhaps Ottawa will be pointwise on top but the leafs have the far easier schedule coming up than Ottawa until the end and I think that the leafs will have an easier time gaining points than the Sens.  </p>
<p>Regardless this is certainly going to be an interesting finish in the North East.  While it isn&#8217;t going to happen Boston and Montreal still have a shot at taking first, and even Buffalo could somehow go on a big streak and climb up the standings (even less likely to happen).</p>
<p>I just hope that NJ stumbles against their first round opponent as they are the team that worries me the most of anyone in the league.</p>
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		<title>By: cgolding</title>
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		<dc:creator>cgolding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2004 11:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dude, if you getting outscored 27-8 by those three teams you aren&#039;t even being competitive. NOT EVEN BEING COMPETITIVE. you can delude yourself that the regular season means nothing, but seeds do. so keep losing and get a tough matchup in the first round again and see if you can get to the ultimate prize, which you haven&#039;t done in how long... even with beating ottawa three times?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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but lets disregard the regualar season&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
and records against other teams and all those things. teams do not win the cup that can&#039;t play defense... which the leafs have a tendency not to do, which has absolutely nothing to do with the regular season. and consistently bites the leafs in the ass when they get into tight playoff series over the long haul, eventually they open it up a little bit and get burned.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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and who&#039;s making the argument that every single game matters? do you have to win every game. no. but you gotta be able to at the very least step on the ice and put up a fight, and the leafs are simply not getting that done against the class of the east so far this year.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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so someone getting on here and saying that the ONLY teams that can reach the finals from the east are the Leafs and the Devils is what i was responding to, and if you honestly believe that then you are as stupid as him, since he clearly hasn&#039;t been watching the way the East works over the past 10 years. Hell, we are prolly gonna send someone completely random like Atlanta or Montreal... Buffalo, Carolina... Washington.. there&#039;s a trend there.... ANYONE CAN MAKE IT. i was responding to what the mother article said buddy.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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by the way, enjoy the 4 seed, ottawa has emerged from their coma. it either gonna be Philly v. Toronto, or NJ v. Toronto in the first round most likely, since if nothing else Ottawa has proven itself to be VERY good over the regular season. Should be a fun first round... maybe the winner can get past the second this year...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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-chris]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dude, if you getting outscored 27-8 by those three teams you aren&#8217;t even being competitive. NOT EVEN BEING COMPETITIVE. you can delude yourself that the regular season means nothing, but seeds do. so keep losing and get a tough matchup in the first round again and see if you can get to the ultimate prize, which you haven&#8217;t done in how long&#8230; even with beating ottawa three times?</p>
<p>but lets disregard the regualar season</p>
<p>and records against other teams and all those things. teams do not win the cup that can&#8217;t play defense&#8230; which the leafs have a tendency not to do, which has absolutely nothing to do with the regular season. and consistently bites the leafs in the ass when they get into tight playoff series over the long haul, eventually they open it up a little bit and get burned.</p>
<p>and who&#8217;s making the argument that every single game matters? do you have to win every game. no. but you gotta be able to at the very least step on the ice and put up a fight, and the leafs are simply not getting that done against the class of the east so far this year.</p>
<p>so someone getting on here and saying that the ONLY teams that can reach the finals from the east are the Leafs and the Devils is what i was responding to, and if you honestly believe that then you are as stupid as him, since he clearly hasn&#8217;t been watching the way the East works over the past 10 years. Hell, we are prolly gonna send someone completely random like Atlanta or Montreal&#8230; Buffalo, Carolina&#8230; Washington.. there&#8217;s a trend there&#8230;. ANYONE CAN MAKE IT. i was responding to what the mother article said buddy.</p>
<p>by the way, enjoy the 4 seed, ottawa has emerged from their coma. it either gonna be Philly v. Toronto, or NJ v. Toronto in the first round most likely, since if nothing else Ottawa has proven itself to be VERY good over the regular season. Should be a fun first round&#8230; maybe the winner can get past the second this year&#8230;</p>
<p>-chris</p>
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		<title>By: ILiveOnBroadStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILiveOnBroadStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2004 01:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[never said you were being rude, i mena, yes, he only lets in one goal, but then there is a difference in play after, he bears down. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>never said you were being rude, i mena, yes, he only lets in one goal, but then there is a difference in play after, he bears down. </p>
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		<title>By: UsedandAbused</title>
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		<dc:creator>UsedandAbused</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am not being rude... I like Eshe Myself, but for the future. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not being rude&#8230; I like Eshe Myself, but for the future. </p>
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		<title>By: ILiveOnBroadStreet</title>
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		<dc:creator>ILiveOnBroadStreet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2004 00:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[you can see the difference after that goal goes in too, I grew up with Rob, and he has been like this his entire career, he lets in one goal then fights back his emotion and acts like he wants to show that that one was a mistake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you can see the difference after that goal goes in too, I grew up with Rob, and he has been like this his entire career, he lets in one goal then fights back his emotion and acts like he wants to show that that one was a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: LondonK</title>
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		<dc:creator>LondonK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And Ottawa being 0-3 in the playoffs shows that they have no shot at beating the leafs in the playoffs.  And they are 0-1 against Jersey.  The only team they have beaten is Philly.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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When will you people get it through you heads that the regular season means absolutely nothing.  The Sens have historically owned the leafs in the regular season but have yet to beat the leafs.   &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Toronto has been historically terrible against the Flyers (something like 36-72 plus some ties).  It means absolutely nothing.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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And just for fun, lets pretend I didn&#039;t just make that previous argument:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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That must be bad for the Sens as they are the only team that the leafs have beat.  That must mean that they aren&#039;t going to be able to handle the big guys if they can&#039;t dominate the leafs every time they play them. (sarcastic eye roll)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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And the Sens have lost to Pittsburgh so that must mean they are toast....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Ottawa being 0-3 in the playoffs shows that they have no shot at beating the leafs in the playoffs.  And they are 0-1 against Jersey.  The only team they have beaten is Philly.  </p>
<p>When will you people get it through you heads that the regular season means absolutely nothing.  The Sens have historically owned the leafs in the regular season but have yet to beat the leafs.   </p>
<p>Toronto has been historically terrible against the Flyers (something like 36-72 plus some ties).  It means absolutely nothing.</p>
<p>And just for fun, lets pretend I didn&#8217;t just make that previous argument:</p>
<p>That must be bad for the Sens as they are the only team that the leafs have beat.  That must mean that they aren&#8217;t going to be able to handle the big guys if they can&#8217;t dominate the leafs every time they play them. (sarcastic eye roll)</p>
<p>And the Sens have lost to Pittsburgh so that must mean they are toast&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: shady_records</title>
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		<dc:creator>shady_records</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How could you be so rude towards Esche.. He is better than all the goalie you name. He is ready to be a starter and can lead a team in the playoffs. Everytime he plays he only surrenders one goal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How could you be so rude towards Esche.. He is better than all the goalie you name. He is ready to be a starter and can lead a team in the playoffs. Everytime he plays he only surrenders one goal.</p>
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		<title>By: gojiclan</title>
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		<dc:creator>gojiclan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 22:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heres the one little (but good) problem. Esche is playing very well. I know there are a lot of people out there that are quick to point that chechmanek was the same, but the positive side is that these two goalies are totaly different. Esche is showing he can become a go-to goalie. Hes won back to back games against a toronto team that was on an absolute tear at the time, and he came to play. I read in the paper his quote on the fluke goal he let in the other night in buffalo and he simply said &quot;&quot;I let that unbelievable shot in and that made it pretty easy to get going for myself wasn&#039;t giving up another one.&quot;  thats the sign of a guy thats up to the challenge. You never heard that come from chechmanek at all, ever. He was quick to blame the team, or simply had no response at all if he let in soft goals. And dont forget, Esche was playing well last year as well, in fact he and chechmanek had identical numbers until hitchcock gave the nod to chechmanek...we saw less and less of esche and the consequence was he;d come out cold and cost the game for the team. Thats not happening this year. You dont see esche costing the team a game, if anything he has saves a handfull of games for the flyers this season....&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
that being said, esche has no playoff experience. That could be a problem, or it couldnt be. Since he doesnt have the experience, he might crumble under the pressure, or he could shine and carry the team like he has at points this season. Remember, Guigerre (sp?) didnt have playoff experience either. EVeryone has had a point where they had no playoff experience. How did Patrick Roy become a playoff winning monster? he was thrown into it his rookie year, the canadians went with him and it payed off. The same with any winning goalie....theyre not born with big game experience, its earned at somepoint or another...&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Who would i trade for.....i dont really know.Khabibulin hadnt been in a playoff situation in the better part of five years, and he didnt really do all that for me either. Kolzig hasnt done anything since the caps finals run in 98, and i dont think he had all that much playoff experience either......my point is sometimes you just haveta go with it. If esche gets real hot come april, i think he is just as good as any goalie out there (except brodeur but then again nobody is) if anything i would see whats goin on with hackett and if he cant go then id trade for someone that has some playoff experience and can back up esche...im thinkin of maybe Turek depending on whats doin with calgary in a month...thats my opinion anyways]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heres the one little (but good) problem. Esche is playing very well. I know there are a lot of people out there that are quick to point that chechmanek was the same, but the positive side is that these two goalies are totaly different. Esche is showing he can become a go-to goalie. Hes won back to back games against a toronto team that was on an absolute tear at the time, and he came to play. I read in the paper his quote on the fluke goal he let in the other night in buffalo and he simply said &#8220;&#8221;I let that unbelievable shot in and that made it pretty easy to get going for myself wasn&#8217;t giving up another one.&#8221;  thats the sign of a guy thats up to the challenge. You never heard that come from chechmanek at all, ever. He was quick to blame the team, or simply had no response at all if he let in soft goals. And dont forget, Esche was playing well last year as well, in fact he and chechmanek had identical numbers until hitchcock gave the nod to chechmanek&#8230;we saw less and less of esche and the consequence was he;d come out cold and cost the game for the team. Thats not happening this year. You dont see esche costing the team a game, if anything he has saves a handfull of games for the flyers this season&#8230;.</p>
<p>that being said, esche has no playoff experience. That could be a problem, or it couldnt be. Since he doesnt have the experience, he might crumble under the pressure, or he could shine and carry the team like he has at points this season. Remember, Guigerre (sp?) didnt have playoff experience either. EVeryone has had a point where they had no playoff experience. How did Patrick Roy become a playoff winning monster? he was thrown into it his rookie year, the canadians went with him and it payed off. The same with any winning goalie&#8230;.theyre not born with big game experience, its earned at somepoint or another&#8230;</p>
<p>Who would i trade for&#8230;..i dont really know.Khabibulin hadnt been in a playoff situation in the better part of five years, and he didnt really do all that for me either. Kolzig hasnt done anything since the caps finals run in 98, and i dont think he had all that much playoff experience either&#8230;&#8230;my point is sometimes you just haveta go with it. If esche gets real hot come april, i think he is just as good as any goalie out there (except brodeur but then again nobody is) if anything i would see whats goin on with hackett and if he cant go then id trade for someone that has some playoff experience and can back up esche&#8230;im thinkin of maybe Turek depending on whats doin with calgary in a month&#8230;thats my opinion anyways</p>
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		<title>By: The_Conductor</title>
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		<dc:creator>The_Conductor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2004 17:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Clarke can admit they need a goalie... its either Washington or The Ducks. I mean both need more offence, so why the hell not?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Clarke can admit they need a goalie&#8230; its either Washington or The Ducks. I mean both need more offence, so why the hell not?</p>
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