Wings' Dumping Day / Bye Bye Breezer!

The Detroit Red Wings have just put Derian Hatcher, Darren McCarty and Ray Whitney on waivers.

Patrice Brisebois’ days in MontrĂ©al appears to be counted as well…

All 3 of these players are great veteran additions to any team. It should be very interesting to see where they go. As a Rangers fan, I’ve wanted McCarty for years, and now there’s actually a chance. Who knows. In my opinion it’s too early to speculate as so many different things could happen in this new economic environment.

Anyway, I’m glad to be back on these forums. Mikster, keep up the great work. Good to see all of you again. It’s back!!! Wooooooo!!!

Paul_DMC wrote:

Bye bye Breezer!

Yup, looks like the Habs decided to decline the option they had on Patrice Brisebois for next year.

Although he was costing quite a lot for what he was bringing to the table, the guy did bring leadership and stability on Montreal’s blueline. Now that he’s gone, I’d sure like to see Montreal go after a guy like Adrian Aucoin or maybe even Dan McGillis if they’re not too expensive. Anyways, more could become available in the next few days as they get bought out. Why not sign a guy like Kasparaitis for cheap if the Rangers buy him out (now before going mad about that one plz notice that it was an example, nothing else). Signing a free agent D will become even more important if Bob Gainey fulfills my lifelong dream of getting rid of Craig Rivet.

At this point, I’d say the Habs should go with Markov, Souray, Komisarek, Bouillon, Hainsey, some free agent and maybe Archer as 7th D-man.

45 Responses to Wings' Dumping Day / Bye Bye Breezer!

  1. Tweek says:

    No real surprise with the wings dumping those three guys nor was it a surprise to see the habs not pick up breeze by. Hatcher could be a intriguing possibility for a contender looking for a big defender to soak minutes.

  2. Lint07 says:

    I’ve been wanted the Habs to make a run for Aucoin for more than 2 years now.

    If they sign Aucoin & Kovalev, I’d be more than happy!

  3. Scruffy05 says:

    A little known fact is that Montreal CAN sign Breezy back for less money. Before everybody starts screaming at me that the rules say you can’t, he is an exception because he had a buyout clause in his contract stating that if he ever WAS bought out he could resign for less money.

    I don’t see it happening, but it is possible.

  4. Lint07 says:

    hence the ”appears to” I added in the article.

    But thanx to pointing it out.

  5. paul_dmc says:

    A fact that most of you might ignore is that Adrian Aucoin actually speaks very good French so I guess it could help make him a fan favourite in Mtl, especially since thers’s been lots of talking lately in the French media as to how the Habs should try to implement some kind of French-Canadian identity.

  6. Scruffy05 says:

    If they wanted to do that they should sign Turgeon for 1-1.5 million. I don’t forsee him being worth very much more than that.

  7. masarume says:

    Aucoin isn’t going to cheap. I can’t see him earning less than 2.5 million.

    I was actually surprised that McCarty was let go. I thought he was the Tie Domi of Detroit.

    Interesting how they waived instead of buyout. Waiving doesn’t 100% clear you off the team’s roster, does it?

  8. nordiques100 says:

    i beleive you have to waive the player before buying them out

  9. paul_dmc says:

    I guess they waived ’em first hoping that some other team would pick ’em up instead of having to buy them out.

    Losing someone to the waivers = free

    Buying out = $$$, even though it doesn’t count when it comes to the salary cap

  10. habsoverserver says:

    Agreed, though unlikely.

  11. habsoverserver says:

    A remote possibility.

    I don’t think Turgeon enjoyed his stay in Montreal and I don’t think Gainey wanted Turgeon when he was GM in Dallas.

  12. TheCoach says:

    I think Brisebois will be back with the Habs.

  13. brewstar03 says:

    They waived them most likely to try and see if any suckers will pick them up and take on that contract. That way, Detroit wouldn’t have to pay any player who is picked up on waivers. But if no one claims them, then they will have to buy them out.

    McCarty and Whitney all had respectable contracts, so there is a slim chance someone will pick them up. But I doubt it; it was just a chance Detroit is taking- a free chance.

  14. ISLES72 says:

    Aucoin already said he would like to stay on the island and has no plans on moving his family.

  15. ISLES72 says:

    Aucoin already said he would like to stay on the island and has no plans on moving his family.

  16. Freeze says:

    Hatcher has no speed. You can’t hit what you can’t catch.

    Hatcher should be headed to the beer leagues along with McCarty.

  17. Freeze says:

    You are right.

  18. Tweek says:

    I think Hatcher can still contribute, he’s not as good as he once was but he it still a noteworthy NHL d man. No disagreement with the McCarty comment though, he’s done.

  19. Luc89 says:

    Everyone seems confused about the Waivers situation with Detroit because thats how some hockey sources are titling their story as. But behind the seens, before a team can buyout a player, the player has to clear waivers. They have 24 hours to clear waivers on the weekdays, 48 hours on the weekends. After they have cleared waivers, the team can then buyout their contract.

    Living in the Detroit area, its not easy to see a guy like D-Mac walk from the team and the fans that have supported him through his tensure in Detroit. Just a con of the new NHL.

    I also would have liked to see Whitney stay, I like his style of play and was excited to see him signed 2 years ago.

    But I am glad to see Hatcher go, I criticized his signing 2 years ago, n he has been nothing but a burdon for the Wings. And he is long overdue to go.

  20. bucknasty says:

    mark it down – kovalev will be back in pittsburgh

  21. Marky2Fresh says:

    He was smart for putting that in his contract

  22. Scruffy05 says:

    I see Whitney signing with an Atlanta or maybe even a Florida. One of those teams that can use some secondary scoring.

    D-Mac will be picked up by a team needing some size and some hard nose grinding. I have an idea that it may be Minnesota or New Jersey, but definatly a defensively minded team.

    Hatcher I see being picked up by the Oak Bay Hornets of the Greater San Fransisco Beer League. Hopefully he proves me wron gthough and actually makes something of himself this season. He’ll be signing for cheap.

  23. Lint07 says:





    Where do you fit Turgeon with those centerman?

  24. Habfanforever says:

    I see Brisebois going to the west coast as a lot of teams over there will be dumping players in order to stay within the cap so it is fair to say that he will be a cheap option for a 2nd power play line QB. Possible destinations: Detroit, Los Angeles, Anaheim or Colorado.

  25. Scruffy05 says:

    Personally, and this may upset a few people…. I would buy out Bonk. I admit, I don’t get to see a whole lot of Canadiens games so maybe he is great, I have always had a bit of a beef with him. Not much of a playoff performer.

    Or, use him in a trade to try and get Crosby like they are reportedly tryign to do… It would take a helluva lot motre than him, but they could try.

  26. zdeno_duchesne says:

    bonk’s a skilled player, but a stonefaced player. he can put up 60 points with ease, but as a sens fan, i know that when they need him, he doesn’t show up.

    the pens gm specifically said he would not entertain any offers for crosby.. probably just media trying to get your eyes on the paper the next day..

  27. flyered-up says:

    I would love to see hatcher come to Philly….we need 2 BIG defensemen..clarke is trying to resign Malakhov…I would rather have Hatcher….with Desjardins, Johnsson, and Pitkanen we already have 3 puck moving defensemen…I dont know but just a thought.

  28. TheAwaKe says:

    He’s a good friend of Sheldon Souray so who knows!

  29. WYflyerfan says:

    I can see Hatcher going to philly to play for Hitch. I think Hitch changed Clarke’s mind. Originally Clarke was pushing for Niedermayer and now he wants a big defenseman. I think Hatcher likes Hitch’s system so I bet he will take less to play there.

  30. the_hockey_bandit says:

    What is the deal with knocking McCarty? He is one of the best role players a team could ask for. He provides energy and a little nasty to any team. He is not as quick as he used to be but he is by no means slow, he has a good first step with a decent(not great) shot. This is what put him with Yzerman and Shanny on the first line for a while. His size is average, but his heart makes his play like a Scott Stevens. He can hit, not always well, he can defend and he can push the rush. Back off him, he would help more than hurt any team as a role player. For only 1 to 2 mil he is a great pickup for anyone. Detroit was crazy not to keep him.

  31. AfroCon says:

    They didn’t buy him… They had an option on his contract and they simply declined him…

  32. the_hockey_bandit says:

    Yes, McCarty is the energy of Detroit, like Domi in Toronto. It is a sad day for us Wing fans when a 1-2 mil player who is the former LW of our first line, on the grind line and has been with Detroit for 11 years through three cups, he will be missed if he is picked up.

  33. 19Yzerman says:

    McCarty with His cup clinching goal in 1997 game 4 along with his fighting the AVE’s villan Claude Lemiuex has made him a big fan favorite. It will be hard for Wings fans to see him in another Uni but, I can assure you he will never be treated like a the enimy at the Joe.

    There are going to hearts breaking all over The Metro Detroit area upon announcement of McCarty being picked up by another team. You cannot imagine how many nice looking Women are at Wings games wearing his Jersey.

    You may not know it but, Darren McCarty is the lead vocalist in his band “Grinder”. Despite not having been blessed with a voice anyone would consider worthy of being a Motown Classic. None the less he draws in good sized crouds.

  34. JeffBurnz09 says:

    Dallas wants Hatcher back….nice to see they’ll fall all over themselves to re-sign a guy who didn’t want to be there anymore, and publically down play Modano’s value, while offering him one year contracts…

  35. Tweek says:

    Well I know he used to be alright but I doubt he is as productive as he once was and he is still a great checker but the time has come for him in the wings to move on, the wings youth movement should be entertaining.

  36. Weidner says:

    Markov is going to be one of the “hitters” you mentioned. Seidenberg is also going to be on the blue-line so there really is only going to be room for one additon.

    That will give Jones & Meyer some time as the top line with the Phantoms and be available in case of any injuries.

    You can forget about Hatcher or Niedermeyer if they want the maximum contracts. Clarke is not going to $39 million right away. He will want some room just in case he does need something mid-season.

  37. Weidner says:

    Desjardins, Johnsson, Markov, Pitkanen, & Seidenberg have to be considered the top 5 defenseman for the Flyers at this point.

    That will give Jones & Meyer some time as the top line with the Phantoms and be available in case of any injuries.

    You can forget about Hatcher or Niedermeyer if they want the maximum contracts. Clarke is not going to $39 million right away. He will want some room just in case he does need something mid-season.

    Clarke indicated that he would be interested in having Malakhov back. I would look for them to pursue that avenue first and than look for a UFA. Appears that Clarke would like to have a “team max” of between 4 – 5 million for the best players. (Primeau’s as an example).

    If the $ is the same across the league for a few of the d-men it may come down to what city they would prefer to live, where their family is located, chances for a cup, of friends who play in that city. That may be another way for them to try and bring someone to Philly.

  38. Marky2Fresh says:

    The Leafs should buy out Tucker and pick McCarty up off waivers (they make pretty much the same amount) before he has a chance to become a UFA for an upgrade.

  39. 19Yzerman says:

    I think you could safely say Mac was worth 1 mill per season at best skill wise. However his contract of 3.2 mill was scaled up because of fan interest. McCarty was a blue collar player which is an example of what most of Detroit Red Wings fans find appealing. He was our on ice enforcer for 11 years. Unless the New NHL doesn’t require such players I feel letting him go will open the need to replace him with someone who can perhaps provide the same work ethic, a little more speed, a little more scoring, and be at least as good of a fighter. Question is who in the league could the Wings get to perform those duties?

  40. nelsog says:

    I’d be “dancing on the ceiling”.

  41. nelsog says:

    Unlikely. I would not be surprised to see Brisebois anywhere in the Mid-Atlantic area. He is still a solid D-man and brings a good amount of leadership to any team. The two teams I see him going to are the Rangers who sorely need some experience and leadership on the blueline or secondly to the Flyers who seem to need to seal up some defensive positions. But it is still very early and this is just speculation.

  42. Redtown says:

    If you want Hatcher he is all Philly’s to have. Too old, and Way too Slow. Perhaps you’re thinking of a younger Hatcher, not this one. Glad he is gone.

  43. Redtown says:

    Great question.. Perhaps Tucker from the Leafs

  44. Redtown says:

    I guess you didn’t see Hatcher in the playoffs with Detroit. He looked like a tri-pod out there. Yes, that was him who defended NOTHING when the Flames scored the series winning goal…

  45. Redtown says:

    Oak Bay Hornets of the Beer League sounds a little too competitive for Hatcher.

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