With Rucinsky ….Rangers have 2 players too many.

With the Addition of Rucinsky, which should take place in a day or two…. The Rangers find themselves with an overload of players…..

12 offense men are needed for 4 lines…..

But the Rangers have 14….

Lindros, Bure, Nedved, Holik, Dvorak, Rucinsky, Mess, Samulson, Lundmark, Lyashanko, Oliwa, MaCarthy, Barnaby, and Murry……

Now what do the Rangers do? Who will be sitting some of the games this season…..?

Lindros, Bure, Nedved, Holik, Dvorak, Rucinsky, Mess, ….. are all locks to be in the lineup every night.

But, who are the two players you leave out?

We know the top two lines will have those players but let’s look at the 3rd and 4th….

Samuelsson… Mess….. Lundmark

Oliwa…… Lyashanko…… MaCarthy…

But then you have Murray and Barnaby out of the lineup….

Now who do you think should be put in and who should be pulled out?

Any of these guy’s left over can be traded…. But sending gritty players like Barnaby, MaCarthy, and Oliwa would weaken the toughness… Samulson and Lundmark are going to be good….. they can’t be moved and Murry was brought to the team to help a much needed defensive offensive-men. Lyashanko also shows some promise with his potential.

Now I know you need a few left over players (just in case)…… and Oliwa can sit a few games, but even if he play’s only 30-35 then someone else will miss time as well…..

Should the Rangers make a move sending one of these guys to bring in some D? If so…. Who?

32 Responses to With Rucinsky ….Rangers have 2 players too many.

  1. pantherboy says:

    I say they send Samuelsson down to Hartford, and trade/waive Oliwa. If they were to trade any of these players it probably wouldn’t be for any everyday D, it would be for prospects. You can never have enough of them.

  2. Leaf_Expert says:

    Really got nothin to say except that, all u Isles fans should root for the Rangers cause the Isles will be desperate to make the playoffs!!!………..

  3. Leaf_Expert says:

    Actually they won’t even…….

  4. mikster says:

    I am not too sure yet about Rucinsky becoming a Ranger. DailyNews says that they haven’t talked in weeks (Rangers and Rucinsky’s agent) and TFp says that it’s just a few hours away or a day or two. We’ll see how that goes.

    Anyway, Lyashenko will stay in the AHL because even though he is exempt from the waiver draft, he’d have to clear waivers if he was with the Rangers and they would send him down to Hartford. So, Rangers will make him stay there.

    The players most likely to leave the Rangers from the waiver draft are: McCarthy, Barnaby, Karpa, Donato, Oliwa.

    Right now there are more tests to be seen, like the new Czech line with Nedved-Holik-Dvorak. But, Lundmark has played really well with Holik since training camp, and pre-season. If Dvorak’s season is hindered because of the injury, then Lundmark can play 2nd line right-wing. If not, then Lundmark has also played well with Samuelsson and Messier.

    With the defensive pairs, Lintner could make the line-up, Mottau is now a career minor leaguer and his best shot in the NHL is a 5th defenseman. Lefebvre has played really well so far and will most likely stay. As for Kloucek, the rest of the pre-season games will tell if he can make it or not. He is injury prone, as of early in his career, but he can be sent down without clearing waivers.

    If the Rangers re-sign Rucinsky, then it’s a good thing. He played really well on the Lindros line last-season, doing the dirty work and sticking in the neutral zone. But, my only question to him, is….can he do it all season long? I think he will have slumps, and probably sometimes Trotts will have to shake the lines. But, for the most part, i think Rucinsky is a good addition on that line. I don’t care what he did in his career, what counts is that the first line has chemistry.

    These are the possible lines:





    I think Barnaby might not be wearing a Rangers jersey this season, since he does make $1.5 million for the next two seasons. But, it could come down to either Barnaby or McCarthy.

    As for the defensive pairs, these are possible:




    We’ll see how Schoenfeld and Trottier will solve this one.

    Back to the offense; what if Nedved can’t play well on the LW? That’s a possibility. Maybe he can be moved up to the Lindros line where he really did great on the offense, and Rucinsky with Holik. Maybe not. Some people think that Nedved’s best game is at center. I don’t see how, but what if that were to happen? What if Trottier decides that Nedved should stay at center, then what?






  5. mikster says:

    Samuelsson has been really good as of now, why put him in the minors for no reason? He works very well with Messier. He starts the season with the Rangers, no doubt about it.

  6. mikster says:

    Ilse’s will have a solid 2nd half. I think that they won’t have that same start of the season that had last year.

    Parrish scored just 8 goals in the last 34 games.

    Peca is out.

    Kvasha, can he prove himself and be responsible enough as your team’s 2nd line center?

    DiPietro 1st overall pick? Couldn’t beat Snow? They won’t trade him until Osgood re-signs, and maybe Snow re-signs.

  7. Habfan1234 says:

    I think that Nedved should go and be replace by Lundmark. I seriously believe that the New York Islanders will be out of the playoffs (no Peca) while the Rangers will be in. I say this because everything that could go right for the Islanders did. I doubt that the Rangers can finish in the top four but I see a sixth or seventh place finish.

  8. Habfan1234 says:

    I think that Nedved should go and be replaced by Lundmark. I seriously believe that the New York Islanders will be out of the playoffs (no Peca) while the Rangers will be in. I say this because everything that could go right for the Islanders did. I doubt that the Rangers can finish in the top four but I see a sixth or seventh place finish.

  9. NYIchooch75 says:

    You know, I never thought I would be subjected to anyone more ignorant than a Rangers fan. But I have to hand it to you, you Leafs fans definitely got them beat hands down! I mean, have the Leafs won anything in 35 years? Shit at least the Rangers won.

    What basis do you have saying the Isles won’t make the playoffs and the Leafs will? Is it because Gary Roberts is a year older? Or is it because Renberg might actually play a game when it counts, and ignore that nagging eyelash injury. Maybe it’s because you actually downgraded in the crease. I could rattle off a few more items indicating the dominance the Leafs have over every other Eastern Conference team, but to do that I would have to point out that in order for the Leafs to even MATCH last year’s performance, they would need career year’s from Tucker and Green again, not to mention no improvement from anywhere else in the league.

    With that being said, I really think it is YOU that should root for the Rangers, while hoping that by some small miracle, the Leafs eek out that 8th spot with a .500 record and 85-88 points.

  10. NewYorkRangers says:

    I hope Oliwa gets picked up on waivers. Never liked him, never wil.

    I think the lines should look something like this:





    I’m not a big Rucinsky fan, I wouldn’t be surprised to see him on the 3rd line, and maybe have Lundmark or Samuelsson with Holik. I hope to God, that Barnaby and McCarthy will stay in New York. Lyashenko will probably be a scratch most nights.


    Leetch – Malakhov

    Poti- Kaspar

    Lefebvre – Kloucek (Purinton, Lintner)

  11. mikster says:

    Definitely, i agree that they can make 8th through 4th. I disagree Nedved should be replaced since Lundmark is right side and Nedved is left side, none play center so let’s leave it at that.

    Peca is out for about 35 games or so. They can still have a strong 2nd half, and i think they will be stronger then.

  12. mikster says:

    We’ll see what happens with Oliwa, i doubt anyone will try and land him. He is happy to stay here and i think no team really needs him, well….maybe the Isle’s or Senators.

    I’d like to see a Rucinsky-Nedved-Dvorak line. But that leaves the LW slot empty.

    I think Samuelsson and Lundmark with Holik would work great.

  13. NewYorkRangers says:

    How many players can a team protect in the waiver draft. I would be really upset to see McCarthy and Barnaby go. Especially McCarthy, he is a huge part of the team.

  14. mikster says:

    I think it’s 12 forwards.

    Say buh bye to either Barnaby or McCarthy. I’d rather keep Sandman.

  15. cwhockey says:

    I don’t think that the Rangers can afford to give up any player that is effective. Their track record in the past few years has been less than stellar, much less than stellar. If one of those extras (if you want to call them that) can give them effective play, hold on to them.

    Even though I hate and despise the Rangers, I just see it as a smart move to keep effective players. If they can trade for someone else who will produce, more power to them. But otherwise, keep some insurance around. You never know when you will need it.

  16. mikster says:

    Barnaby or McCarthy. One of them will have to go.

  17. cwhockey says:

    Probably. Same type of player. Just hope that the Rangers will get something for them; maybe not though with the waiver draft.

  18. YingYan says:

    Rusinsky is as overrated as overpaid, a perfect fit for the Ranger$ who should really dispose of him ASAP.

    p.s. Was i happy when the Habs dumped him? YES! 🙂

  19. LordPerth says:

    There will be the waiver draft – a BIG factor with hard decisions!!!


  20. TheBricks says:

    Here’s what I think…

    Bure-Lindros-Ruchinsky(TFP reports he’s going to sign…and i don’t know why the rangers are waisting their time!!)




    As of right now, this is what line-up would look like with a healthy Bure. With Bure out, however, Lundmark could jump up and play on a line with Lindros and Ruchinsky. Czech Line #2 wouldn’t be bad, but on the other hand you have to remember of the strong question: When will DVO be ready to go? People are saying he’s going to be playing today against the B’s in preseason, but they aren’t sure when he will be 100% ready. As for the 3rd line, Trottier loves Samuelsson and has been quoted saying that he has been the best player in camp. Lundmark is definately up there and if he gets sent back then no body should make the squad. Messier and Rem Murray are 3rd line locks. Murray was brought over in Edmonton to kill penalties and to be a depth player the Rangers needed. As for the last line, Lyashenko has proven way too much to be sent back to the Wolfpack. McCarty and Barnaby play with heart, even though Barnaby is a human punching bag and doens’t know when to stop going after Brashear! As for the odd man out, Oliwa is out, and personally I would not sign Ruchinsky. Is this guy really worth it? I look, and i see him taking a roster spot. The guy is a complete stiff. If Montreal and Dallas both dealt this guy off, and especially Dallas for peanuts, why would Sather add something that the Rangers really don’t need.

    What’s going to happen is Sather will end up making a trade. Possibly a forward for defenseman or a forward for a really late round draft pick. This will happen only if Ruchinsky signs. I think I speak on behalf of many Ranger fans when I say if he trades McCarthy, thats another guy that played his heart out no matter what that was dealt(the other being Mike York of course). The odd man out is Oliwa. Honestly, when you have McCarthy and Barnaby I don’t know why Sather went out and got Oliwa. He’s slow, and barely looks comfortable on his skates. I’d keep McCarthy in my line-up over him anyday. Sather was quoted as saying he’s sick and tired of Ruchinsky’s agent wanting money that was about 3-4million dollars, and Sather was sick and tired of it. TFP reports Ruchinsky will get 1.75 million dollars a year with bonuses. Here’s what I would do…

    1- Screw Ruchinsky. Hes a big baby and he’s taking up a KIDS VALUABLE ROSTER SPOT(ie Lundmark possibly).

    2- Send Oliwa down. Make him get into even better shape in Hartford, and then bring him in when you go up against Philly and those teams. Barnaby and McCarthy are definately two guys that worked well together at the end of last season.

    3-Defense situation. With Leetch, Kasperaitis, Malakhov, and Poti as locks, that leaves 2 spots open. Lefebvre, Karpa, Kloucek, and Tutin? Personally, I’d toss Karpa and his fat salary in order to let Kloucek have a slot. Lefebvre was banished to Hartford and then proved his worth and did play very well towards the end of the season. I say let Tutin play and learn in Hartford if needed for a year. Next year should be his turn to crack the line-up.

    My Lineup…










  21. Habs4ever says:

    Lyashenko looks a bit out of place….But I think it will be a mistake if the rangers bring rucinsky back. Maybe I’m biased becuase I never liked him, but I saw the Rangers-Flyers exhibtion match, and Nedved played oh so well with Lindros and Bure. Lundmark and Holik played really so I wouldn’t send him down. I wouldn’t sign rucinsky and I would send Lyashenko down to Hartford. The line-up would look something like this:





    looking at that….the last line has no center.. so I would have to trade Oliwa and try to get some 4th line center. Or pick up a 4th line center in the waiver draft..Oh and Ranger fans..tell me if Samuelson plays left wing because i put him as a left winger but im not sure….

  22. mikster says:

    Paying a guy $1.6 million who can score 55 points and make his line-mates score 80 points each? Not bad at all.

  23. mikster says:

    You got it all wrong right from the very begining. Bure plays RW.

    Lundmark plays on Holik’s left/right-wing tops, not the first line. No youngsetr can make the first line yet. So…this is what things could look like with Rucinsky:





    Without Rucinsky:










    Kaspar with Leetch? Doubt it.




    Karpa will be put on waivers.

    One thing you got right is the goalie tandem.

  24. mikster says:

    You got it almost right. Good job.

    Tonight they will test the new Czech line with Nedved-Holik-Dvorak. We’ll see how that goes. One pre-season game doesn’t convince me all that much with Nedved and Lindros-Bure, but yes..the good sign is that they have chemistry.

    Samuelsson has been great on the ice. Lundmark will make the team, but he can’t back down. Also, Lundmark could play on Holik’s left side as he did when scoring against the Devils on Friday.

    Bringing in Rucinsky would add depth on the left side. Because, if Nedved and Dvorak play excellent with Holik, the Lindros line is empty again. No youngster is ready to take such responsibility on the Lindros line by digging out pucks and having 4 eyes (two looking back of the head) for defensive responsibilities.

    Lyashenko is staying in Hartford not because he hasn’t showed much, but because of the fact that he is exempt from the waiver draft, BUT….he’d have to clear waivers if he is sent down to Hartford.

    Samuelsson can play both lw/rw. That’s what i like about this team, players can switch positions.

    Expect Rucisnky to sign after pre-season, if he is needed.

  25. mikster says:

    I think Rucinsky will sign after the waiver draft…..

  26. NewYorkRangers says:

    If he does sign after the waiver draft, does that mean the Rangers can protect McCarthy and/or Barnaby?

  27. NYR88Express says:



    Nedved – Lindros – Bure

    Murray – Holik – Dvorak

    Samuelsson- Lundmark – Fata

    Barnaby – Messier – McCarthy



    Leetch – Kasparaitis

    Poti – Malakhov

    Kloucek – Lintner





  28. NewYorkRangers says:

    I agree with the first line, but the next three I would change. First of all, Messier 4th line? I know he is going to have a reduced role, but i don’t think that reduced. If Rucinsky signs I would put him on the Holik-Dvo line. My thrid line would be Sammy – Mess – Lundmark, and the 4th would be Barnaby – Murray – McCarthy

    I think that Leetch and Malakhov will start the season together, they played well early last year, so I think they’ll get another shot at it. Poti and Kaspar mite be a pair, considering Poti couldn’t squash a fly. The third pair could happen, but Lefebvre will probably make the team, and that 6th dman spot is wide open. It could be Kloucek, Lintner (who has looked impressive), or Purinton.

    You follow the Rangers closely like I do, what do you think of Mottau? Personally, these past two years when I have seen him play, he never looks to show to much promise. There seem to be so many d-men above him like Kloucek, Purinton, Lintner, Bouchard, Tyutin, hell even Karpa and Chebaturkin. He’s going to be 25 this season, so there is still a little time to get better, but its not much especially with so many people ahead of him. What kind of future do you think he has?

  29. mikster says:

    If you put Lundmark at center, you’ll kill his game.

    Kaspar stays on the 2nd pair. Lintner has shown wonders with Leetch too.

    Barnaby, Fata are gone in my opinion. Donato should stay, McCarthy should definitely stay.

  30. beefer says:

    I’m pretty sure that even if they wait ’til after the waiver draft to sign Rucinsky, they would then have to expose someone on waivers. I think they can only protect 23 players.

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