Comments on: Zherdev Awarded $3.9M

By: trueblue

trueblue — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 17:00:53 +0000

you just dont get the big picture...

poni is at his peak...after next season he will start winding down....
Zherdev hasnt even gotten close to his peak yet

Its like apples and oranges

btw poni needs a better agent...

anyway the rangers are not going to deal with toronto so this is pointless
the rangers are looking to aquire a big time player involving a trade with Zherdev

But maybe Toronto should look to make that big time deal for a big player if poni could land them the deal...lol

By: quick_stick

quick_stick — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:57:47 +0000

Firstly, Kabs on the Rangers would be their best dman by far.

2nd, I don't think Ponikarovsky is great. He's at best a bit better than average. He's used as a comparison to give you Rangers fans some perspective on your own group of mid level forwards. Don't worry though, yours is a pretty common attitude for fans who don't really follow any other team but their own and lack some fundamental hockey knowledge.

Zherdev is an under acheiving forward who wants to be paid like an elite guy. A team might reasonably take a chance on him, hoping that he lives up to his potential...however, he could merely be another Satan, Afinogenov or whatever other skilled underachieving forward who failed to live up to his potential.

You are over valuing your asset big time.

By: quick_stick

quick_stick — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 16:47:06 +0000

don't confuse them with facts, dude…it drastically messes with their fabricated reality.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 15:53:51 +0000

There's a chance that New York will let Zherdev go to free agency for nothing, but they would laugh at trading him for Kaberle..... ya that makes sense.

It's funny that you say that our team will have trouble scoring when last year Blake and Poni both had more points than any Rangers, and your top scorer scored most of his points for us.

All I can say is you better hope Gaborik is healthy.

By: trueblue

trueblue — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:51:07 +0000

Thats right.... You would never trade Kaberle for Zherdev straight up cause we would laugh at you if you requested that...

Man these Leaf fans are too much...out of there freakin minds!

By: trueblue

trueblue — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 13:44:45 +0000

OK... once again lets go thru this with you...

1st Zherdev is much younger than Ponikarovsky and had only 2 or 3 points less than him... Zherdev's potential to hit 75-90 points a year is realistic.... Ponikarovsky is in the twilight of his peak...

As for Redden... they expect him to play this year and to play well...
Next year due to many high quality prospects coming of age, Redden may find himself in the AHL if he cant be traded... If it comes to that, he may be so humiliated that he either resigns... Lets say he doesnt... then he will only have 3 years left at which point the Rangers would probably buy him out... So worse case scenario we eat about 12 million spread over 4 years which is roughly 3 million a year and much easier to live with... Slats doesnt do this again and were back in business without giving up a single prospect or high-end player or pick to a retard deal like you suggested...

So go smoke some more crack... your team will be tough this year without any scoring unless you do something soon... Kaberle and Ponikarovsky... give me a break!

By: honestabe

honestabe — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 10:28:15 +0000

I can easily think of several contracts that are worse than Redden's:
Richards, Gaborik, Gomez, Vanek, Drury, Stastny, Briere, etc. (That's odd, Sather signed 4 of them. Hmmmm)

By: quick_stick

quick_stick — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:15:04 +0000

A 2nd rounder for Kaberle? You're dreaming, big guy. I wouldn't trade Kabs for Zherdev straight up. NY would have to sweeten the pot significantly for us to take a career underachiever who's going to make close to 4mil this year.

And Ponikarovski had more points than Zherdev did last year, and has way lower of a cap hit. He's improved every year as a Leaf, uses his size well to protect the puck and is solid defensively.

Hey mabye the Rangers could throw in their 2nd and 4th pick to get Joe Thorton.

By: mojo19

mojo19 — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:10:59 +0000

Paulieplatypus, clearly you have a little understanding of the cap, but not much.

You're right, you can send a player to the minors and take his salary off the cap. But only for 1 year. So to say that Redden could go down for the rest of his career is wrong because he still has multiple years left on his contract. The Rangers would only receive cap relief for the first year they send him down, at which point they can either try to move, bring him back up, or keep him down but have to deal with his cap number regardless.

And for the record, Antropov was your top scorer last year, and Ponikarovsky had 61 points, more than any Rangers player.

By: trueblue

trueblue — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 06:17:34 +0000

BINGO.... you hit the nail on the head.... both of of Toronto's player are older and dont have the JAM that the Rangers would be looking for...

Honestbabe i laughed with you as well...

Rangers dont have to give up any of that to get out of Redden deal...
Either one will present itself or they will be forced to send him down either next year or the year after that depending on the youth's ability to play consistantly at the NHL level...

I can see Redden having a very good year this year coming in to camp in excellent shape...