Aebischer and Souray to be leaving?

Rumors out of Montreal this week are saying that a trade involving Montreal goaltender David Aebischer and D-man Sheldon Souray is in the making. Some say that a deal will be made with a team located in the south-west of the United-States. Now, this makes sence for a few reasons.

First, the recent play of Cristobal Huet makes the ex-Avalanche netminder the obvious back-up in Montreal. He has more than once expressed his wish to be a number one goalie in the NHL and this trade could let it happen for him. A team like Columbus might be interested in his services since both Leclaire and Norrena have been less than great this year, granted that the ‘Coats’ are having a hard time putting a constant effort on the ice night-in, night-out.

As for Souray, constant rumors had him move last season to get closer to his family in California. This would actually be a great time for the Habs to move him considering his is actually worth something this season. He leads all NHL D-men in goals scored and isn’t as much of a liability in his defensive zone as he has been in the past few years. Also, needless to say that he is an outstanding marksman on the powerplay and arguably has the hardest slapper in the game (as displayed during the last all-star game). This being said, he his still far from a constant top 2 D-Man on any team so don’t rant at me for saying he is good standing practicly still on the blue-line.

Also, having 8 NHL defensemen in their lineup, like said in a previous HTR.com article, means that the Habs have some room to wiggle on the blue-line. They could use this bait to get their second-line center they’ve been dying for and maybe a young goalie or a 2-3 round pick since we can all agree that Yann Danis is waisting his time in Hamilton with an average team.

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86 Responses to Aebischer and Souray to be leaving?

  1. B514 says:

    A lot of people who post comments do not really know what they are talking about. Although logically speaking it would not make sense to trade Souray and Aebischer because the habs are playing well and we shouldn't mess that up, the fact is that we will not resign souray, rivet and markov, so it seems as if the odd man out will be souray (all three will be too expensive as UFA's, Souray demanding the most). Right now, with the exception of the trade deadline, Souray's value could not be any higher. Because bouillon is coming back, we will not be able to dress all our D-men, so we can to an extent afford to let one go. People do not give enough credit to Streit as potentially being an excellent 6th d-man. He is captain of the swiss national team and sees the ice really well. He does not have to play 20 minutes a game, but can rack up a lot of PP minutes. With Markov, Rivet, Komisarek, Bouillon (back in game shape), Dandenault and Streit, our defense will be fine (back-ups in case of injury could be Ninimaa or Cote). Although it is nice to have a goaltending tandem that is as strong as the one we currently do, we can let Abby go with Souray and get a lot in return. With such a trade, we could dump Ninimaa if we wanted, or throw in a prospect/draft pick instead and pull off a blockbuster trade. Such a trade could bring in the likes of Lecavalier, Forsberg, etc. We could maybe get more at the trade deadline for these guys, but making a trade then may not give the habs the time to generate post-trade chemistry before the playoffs. Anyways, trading Souray and Aebischer is not as crazy as some might think. 

  2. B514 says:

    I could not agree more with you. Before we have to resign Ryder, we can trade him along with Souray and Abby and get a lot in return. Another name you can add to that list is Kovalev. I think the guy is as talented as they come, and I know people will hate this comment, but those who do not see this for what it is are thinking with their heart and not their head. For players like Ryder, Kovy, Abby and Souray, we could get tons in return, and it would not really hurt team chemistry.

  3. B514 says:

    Also, If we did trade Ryder or Kovalev, we could afford to keep Abby, giving us strong goaltending for the playoffs.

  4. PastParticiple says:

    No one tought about LA ??

    What about :

    To Montreal : Anze Kopitar, Mathieu Garon, Lubomir Vishnovski 

    To LA :  Aebischer, Souray, Picks Perezhogin or Kostisyn 

    Kopitar would be our second line center, we'd pick a a great back up in Garon (welcome back) and grab a marvelos defenceman in exchange.

    What about that ?? 

  5. ECWHSWI says:

    You should watch a few Habs games… while its true he's a defensive defenseman, he's far better than anyone you could include in the "dime a dozen" category.

    Defensively, Komisarek is probably #1 so far this season, and like you said he's still growing so…

    a keeper for the Habs

  6. Sigton says:

    I wouldn't mind seeing Souray come to the Oilers.  He's got many friends around Alberta, in fact I know some of his cousins and good friends. He recently set them up with a trip to Montreal with tickets, and locker room passes and stuff. The Oilers need a powerplay defensemen and I think he would fit well.

    To Edmonton: Souray, 2nd round pick

    To Montreal: Bergeron, Torres

  7. PcMorris says:

    It wouldn't saden me at all to see Abby and Sourray leave.  They have been playing great this year, espeacially Sourray, but if they are packaged with Ryder and a prospect, we could definetly upgrade our lineup. 
    I seriously doubt Gaigney is looking for a young goalie because Danis is wasting his time with the Bulldogs and Desjardins should be in Hamilton asap.
    There's no doubt Mtl needs a big centerman and they could get a big name with this package which is worth almost 7mil in cap space.  Forsberg, LeCavalier are the first to come to mind.  Kopitar is a possibility, Ktachuk and McKee is another.  I don't think Columbus or Phoenix has anything the habs need.  The trade I'd love to see is a 3 way deal between Mtl-Van-Flyers, that would send Naslund and Bourdon to Mtl.  Whatever happens, I'm positive Bob will surprise us all.  One thing is sure, he won't unload on defensemen until the trade deadline, to make sure everyone is healthy come spring.

    Just cuz
    PC

  8. allTheKINGSmen says:

    I'm surprised you're even allowed to post here… I usually stay quiet and accept any comment from anybody and i was waiting to see if someone would mention the kings because they really need help… but Visnovsky (top 5 off/def) & Kopitar (on his way to be nominated for the calder trophy) ?????? what are you on dope ? if this trade happens , LA should personnally abandon hockey forever….good thing there's Lombardi , and geeez… good thing YOURE NOT OUR GM !!! THANKS GOD seriously ,
    when things are bad, remember kids , things can get worse ! Sigton can be ur GM ! so just be happy with ur current team and gooooo kings!

  9. kevino says:

    Obviously, Comrie would have to come with someone else. and, in any event, this sort of a trade is not forthcoming because Comrie will be out of action for some time. …you'll also note that I indicated that I doubt any deal would happen with either team. In fact, right now, I would be surprised if Gainey does anything at all. Souray's value is not at its highest until mid-season and abby has to come up with a few more good games to bring back his credibility. gainey will likely turn the phone ringer on again in january and february.

  10. ThomasHawks says:

    shut ur mouth

  11. habsoverserver says:

    the funny part is that almost every team is in serious trouble since most gm's are still getting used to the salary cap.  every team is flawed.

    carbo's system is confusing to me since montreal seems to be allowing too many shots on net and takes too many penalties which are the exact opposite of how the team was when carbo played.

    once the playoffs come around and powerplay opportunities decline, montreal will have difficulty.

    i think this is a speedy team that should be able to generate odd man rushes, ,especially with their offensively gifted dmen.  i am not sure if the defense is getting caught up ice too much or if the first and second lines are pressing too much and getting caught down ice. 

    i think the team can be in serious trouble and still make the playoffs since every team is so flawed and every bad trade or signing is like an albotross. 

  12. allTheKINGSmen says:

    you should be banned for thinking that the LA MANAGEMENT is this dumb.. souray & aebischer for kopitar & visnovsky??? i should call the cops because i assume ur on crack

  13. blarneylad says:

    I’ll take ryder over nagy, so why get rid of aebischer too.

  14. Les-Habitants says:

    a) Do any of these retarded rumors have any source?….didn't think so

    b) Souray, for as long as he is going to be a UFA next season, will be involved in rumors.  However, there is no reason to trade him, as no one on our blueline has a slapshot like his.  If there was a trade, it would be to hopefully improve our team wouldn't you think?

    c) Abby rumors….well, if Huet keeps this up, they don't surprise me.  However, Abby ain't going anywhere till the trade deadline, or that we see a good offer and one that we move in on.  There are better goalies currently avaliable (Buffalo, SJ, Anahiem) so the only reason we would get a trade is if Abby came cheaper then those guys (and his salary, I guess, which is 1.9 compared to Biron's 2.1mil)

    I know we are bored Habs fans, but Bouillon is back!  Plekanec is back on the 2nd line with Kovalev back on right wing and Samsonov on left.
    Shouldn't that be enough to keep you preoccupied?? 

    but for the love of god, please stop with these retarded trade rumors…MARLEAU??  Why would SJ trade him???  Before Thorton showed up, he was that team's franchise player and is their Captain, their leader, ect ect.

    so angry…

  15. PcMorris says:

    You’re a retard!
    If Greztky, Luongo, Roy, Thorton, Espo, Orr and Messier can get traded, why the hell couldn’t Marleau? Trades don’t always improve teams, or your team for that matter, WAKE UP! There is always a looser in trades. Philly with Lindross, Florida with Bertuzzi, Mtl with Niinima.

    Let me repeat this. You’re a retard. You don’t know your shit man!

  16. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    he is not #1 defecively. he's a big man who can play in his own zone. he's miles ahead of Souray and Niinima in his own zone, no question. but compared to other checking defencemen in the nhl he's not that special.

  17. jrcortez25 says:

    You must be INSANE.. If you think that Lombardi is going out of his way to trade the Kings top prize in Kopitar, well then you my friend are wrong.. The Kings are trying to build FOR the future not trade it away.. maybe Lubo but not Kopi… You even thinking about it is a JOKE

  18. Les-Habitants says:

    Wow, umm, where do I begin?

    Let me see, I'm just gonna choose 3 examples you listed to start.

    Gretzky's trade, aside from being heralded as one of the worst trades made in NHL history, was done because the Oilers GM at the time believed the financially smaller Oilers franchise could not afford the salary that Gretzky had.

    Thorton trade…again, have you seen the managerial changes the Bruins made? Did you hear the outcry that occured? Boston was in a huge slide, and desperate for some sort of shakeup. Why they choose Thorton, I don't know, but if you are using this argument simply to say that stupid trades do occur, then ok, you got me there…

    I'm not even sure why you put Roy there. That trade didn't just occur and, last time I checked, there is no sign of Marleau butting heads with his head coach in an ego battle. In fact, Marleau remains the heart of the SJ team.

    and why you even put Niinima and Riberio trade in that list boggles my mind…

    Basically, your arguing that bad trades occur, right? Basically your saying "hey, these trades occured, why couldn't this happen?" So if I said Ovechkin for Plekanec, Samsonov and a 2nd rounder is on the horizon, you would back me up?
    Trades, typically, are done in the hopes of improving a team or, if not, are done to save cash. There is a reason behind a trade, not just some random shit which you seem to believe governs the thoughts of the NHL's GMs.

    Making up some trade rumor without any reason, like saying Marleau coming to Montreal, is just a really stupid rumor, which was the point I was trying to make. My bad if you weren't able to understand that…

  19. ECWHSWI says:

    not saying he's #1 in the NHL, there is others that are better, for sure… but FOR THE HABS… who else on the Habs roster is better than him defensively, besides Markov ?

    the guy's young, havent reach his peek yet and is doing a GREAT job, that to me is #1 reason for keeping him.

    You'll tell me in term of style he looks a lot like the P. Gauthier type of players…. true, but he's already as good if not better than lots of them and is younger… 😉

  20. ECWHSWI says:

    True, for almost the same price I would go for Biron too, thing is Buffalo is thinking "Stanley Cup" so I think they'll keep Biron, even if it means losing him at the end of the year….

    Might be wrong, but if I were Sabres GM I would keep both.

  21. Habroller says:

    Nah, Nagy is miles ahead of Ryder…he's been about a pt per game for the past seasons now. Ryder hasn't convinced me after his amazing start this year. What happened with his skating?

  22. mkfx says:

    why would they do that, Souray is a most on the pp and aebischer is one of the best backup in the league. Souray is ufa they wont receive something big for him and if you trade him its the powerplay of an another team who will enjoy is slapshot. And aebischer will improve another team too. You dont improve other team just for fun. Instead of posting some stupid trade rumors just shut your mouth. Bob Gainey never talk about who's on the block anyway and i dont know who the ***** you can be to know these shitty rumors.

  23. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    ok, then neither team will trade. both are thinking "stanely cup" along with 28 other teams.

  24. OhBehave says:

    I heard that there could be something breweing between the Habs and The Yotes and the player coming from Phoenix is Ladislav Nagy, but I doubt they would give up Aebi and Souray for Nagy, I mean he is injury prone.

    But inuris aside, Nagy is a very good center and I see him between our 2 slumping russians.

    I guess we'll have to wait, but giving up Souray we gotta get a good center because 5 on 5 we suck so far this year.

    If we lose Souray out PP will suffer greatly as well.
    We'll have a hard time winning games with just great PK.

    Anyways, Gainey hasn't flopped so far, he's good at his job, we'll have to wait and see!

    Go Habs!

  25. mtl_prince says:

    just what we need! (nagy) another winger, forget it, gainey will be trading for a center, thats it!

  26. Maxvince says:

    Ok It's good to see all the rumors about the canadien, but stay calm no reason go crazy. The team play well so no reason to do someting stupid, we have a lot of time in front of use. The only move we should do for now is trade Abby for a centerman, if we got a good offer if there not we can wait.

    Now thinking in the future, we know that we will lose maybe one or two of them this summer I'm talking about Markov, Souray and Rivet. So we will have to make a choice. I would try to keep Markov with a new contract long term. For Souray, trade him before the trade deadline for maybe a good D prospect and let go Rivet hoping Cote or Emelin will be ready next year.

    Fantasy talk…
    We know Daniel Briere will be UFA at the end of this season. So hoping he will try the market we can offer him like 5.5M or 6M by season for 4 years. With Souray 2.4M, Rivet 2.4M, Abby 1.9M and Niinimaa 1.9M gone we save 8.6M.
    So if I did my homework right the team would look like this

    Line 1
    Ryder, Koivu, Higgins
    Line 2
    Kovalev, Briere, Samsonov
    Line 3
    Johnson, Bonk, Latendresse
    Line 4
    Begin, Plekanec, Perezhogin

    Defence
    Line 1
    Komisarek, Markov
    Line 2
    Bouillon, Dandenault
    Line 3
    ???? could be the prospect we got for Souray or Emelin or Cote if they are ready to play in the NHL and Streit.

    Goalie
    Huet and Danis

    I know it's crazy talk but it would be great tho…

  27. Maxvince says:

    Ok It's good to see all the rumors about the canadien, but stay calm no reason go crazy. The team play well so no reason to do someting stupid, we have a lot of time in front of use. The only move we should do for now is trade Abby for a centerman, if we got a good offer if there not we can wait.

    Now thinking in the future, we know that we will lose maybe one or two of them this summer I'm talking about Markov, Souray and Rivet. So we will have to make a choice. I would try to keep Markov with a new contract long term. For Souray, trade him before the trade deadline for maybe a good D prospect and let go Rivet hoping Cote or Emelin will be ready next year.

    Fantasy talk…
    We know Daniel Briere will be UFA at the end of this season. So hoping he will try the market we can offer him like 5.5M or 6M by season for 4 years. With Souray 2.4M, Rivet 2.4M, Abby 1.9M and Niinimaa 1.9M gone we save 8.6M.
    So if I did my homework right the team would look like this

    Line 1
    Ryder, Koivu, Higgins
    Line 2
    Kovalev, Briere, Samsonov
    Line 3
    Johnson, Bonk, Latendresse
    Line 4
    Begin, Plekanec, Perezhogin

    Defence
    Line 1
    Komisarek, Markov
    Line 2
    Bouillon, Dandenault
    Line 3
    ???? could be the prospect we got for Souray or Emelin or Cote if they are ready to play in the NHL and Streit.

    Goalie
    Huet and Danis

    I know it's crazy talk but it would be great tho…

  28. BLUE_AND_WHITE says:

    the habs have 22 mil tied up in 11 players for next season. Bonk, Higgins, Komisarek, perezhogan, plekanec and Ryder should get a combined 12 mil. thats 34 mil for 17players. Markov goes for 4 million, and Danis goes for 500K thats 38.5  millionfor 19 players. Sign Briere at 6 mil, thats 44.5 mil for 20 players, and you have to be able to support 33 players.

    cant happen.

    Briere would be the 1st linecenter

  29. Garny says:

    hate to say it but Montreal is not thinking Stanley Cup…they are thinking playoffs up to or past 2nd round…only 4 teams are thinking or should be thinknig Stanley Cup…Buffalo, Carolina, Edmonton, Anaheim
    All 4 finalists and al lneed to take next step…anything else would be a failure

  30. Garny says:

    nagy is a bandage

  31. hattrick44 says:

    It makes no senses for the habs to trade away Souray. there is a chance that abby may go but that is not likely. If they do trade souray there team could go into a downward spiral. Even if they do get a star forward. there team chemistry and confidence would probally be down. Souray is a top producer on this team so why would they trade him during a successful season. Right now they are somewhere in the top ten in points so making a change of this nature would only cause many problems

  32. hattrick44 says:

    It makes no senses for the habs to trade away Souray. there is a chance that abby may go but that is not likely. If they do trade souray there team could go into a downward spiral. Even if they do get a star forward. there team chemistry and confidence would probally be down. Souray is a top producer on this team so why would they trade him during a successful season. Right now they are somewhere in the top ten in points so making a change of this nature would only cause many problems

  33. markovbigfan says:

    Trade 1: Samsonov+ Abby+ 2nd round choice >> Nash (dream trade)
    Trade 2: Niniima>> Pittsburg for 2nd round choice (realistic)
    Trade 3: Abby+ Kostityn+ 2nd round choice>> Najy+ Leneveu (decent)
    Line 1: Higgings-koivu-ryder
    Line 2: Nash-Latendresse-Kovalev

    Goaler: Huet, Danis

  34. markovbigfan says:

    Trade 1: Samsonov+ Abby+ 2nd round choice >> Nash (dream trade)
    Trade 2: Niniima>> Pittsburg for 2nd round choice (realistic)
    Trade 3: Abby+ Kostityn+ 2nd round choice>> Najy+ Leneveu (decent)
    Line 1: Higgings-koivu-ryder
    Line 2: Nash-Latendresse-Kovalev

    Goaler: Huet, Danis

  35. TheDan says:

    I heard Abby, Souray and Sampsonov for Kelsa and Nash (with a flip of a draft pick or two) as well. I think it makes a lot of sense. Souray is not signing in Montreal next year and he'll be over-priced anyways. Abby's also a free agent and the Habs have plenty of good young goalies to be called up. Sampsonov obviously needs to leave so so-far-so-good for the habs. Kelsa plays a lot of mins and is a -5 on a shit team, plus Clb is souring on him and they'd take and over pay a big time D-man in return for getting rid of him. The Habs need a scorer and Nash is exactly that. He needs to get out of Clb who have Zheridev, Brule and a whole bunch of wingers already anyways. The Habs aren't going to be able to hang onto Souray and Clb aren't going to be able to hang onto Nash, so why not? In the mean time Montreal improves it's scoring and still maintains a solid blue line, while Clb actually gets a goalie who can play at a high level and they finally get a top-notch D-man.
    It's win-win

  36. Habman77 says:

    you don't think signing samsonov was a flop?

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